AI and robotics will lead to a future where humans will no longer need to work, everything will be free and everyone can live like a king. What's wrong with that?
Why are pajeets so ugly and stupid?
This guy turned into a fucking communist what the fuck
>>533332450Are you retarded? Genuine question.
>>533332450I don't trust anything this guy sayshttps://x.com/elonmusk/status/1872860577057448306?lang=en
>>533332450why does anyone believe still this would ever happen, like the people who cut corners and hire jeets to save money for themselves and increase stock values are just going to give it away? does it seem like they like giving their money they're so desperately shekelgrubbing and making everything worse for away?
>>533332450Elon thinks the people are all stupid, and I agree with him.
>>533332450I support this, Musk doesn't
>>533332556What did I say that was wrong?
>>533332450>Universal HIGH INCOMEWhoever believes this shit is retarded. If the universal income is lets say 100k a year, then those 100k becomes the floor for the living price. Basic economics. Sage, OP is a pajeet.
>>533332672Elon is lying to you, what he is saying doesnt even make sense either, but you cant see it because you are stupid.
>>533332450Everything else will just raise in cost. If you own rental properties and now know that your tenants will receive 5k a month from the government no matter what, why wouldn't you jack the rent up to 3k for even the smallest of rooms? This will apply to food as well. Enjoy your $30 Big Mac.
>>533332450Based Miggers will hear about getting livable paychecks and letting robots work for them and seethe like lunatics because they think we should all be enslaved by jews and work 60 hour weeks to death
>>533332450Where will the money come from?
>>533332450It is the way for the rich to pacify the aimless males and turn them into defenders of the system that feeds them.https://chadchan3d.com/the-concept-of-work-is-dead/
>>533332774>what he is saying doesnt even make sense eitherit's like his shit saying "mars is an escape from the red giant issue"; it'll make mars uninhabitable too
>>533332774How does it not make sense?
>>533332450Yeah but once that happens they are going to reduce the global population to 500 million. Billions of useless eaters will be killed off by war, famine, disease, etc. and those who live will be living in a 1984 AI dystopia.
>>533332450Why are you against the lies he's pushing?Did you take the vax he was pushing too?
>>533332830>being a worthless degenerate living on the government dole is good
>>533332830I've unironically seen people say that without a job their life has no meaning
>>533332858They usually answer with "tax the rich", without understanding that all the rich will simply leave. The other answer from retards is "hurr durr cut defense spending". These are the same people that want open boarders, which also is incompatible with UBI, but they can't understand that either.
>>533332450Fuck off welfare parasite, get a job.
>>533332450Reminder, there will be no ubi of any sorts, they will send you and your familiy to bolshevik death camps where they will do extremely cruel things to you. Those who took the death vax are the lucky ones
>>533333074AI will take every job though
>>533332672>everything will be free and everyone will live like a kingThis is the lowest iq fantasy anyone has ever had on /pol/
>>533333014I know one that constantly bitches about having to spend any money ever because he wants to retire then turns around and says work is the only thing that keeps him from getting depressed and still goes every day and obsesses over how much he made that day and days where he could have worked and made money but didn't
>>533332450This is musk manufacturing consent so you'll more easily accept being replaced before you eventually get rugpulled and left behind. People forget that the only reason society is structured in the way that it is is because people need to work, they need houses and roads to get to work and they need shit to do when they get off of work, healthcare to fix them so they can get back to work etc etc etc.
>>533332827The argument he is making is that robotics and such would lead to oversupply -- presumably even in areas such as housing, so you could simply go around landlords.After all, even today the landlord is the least important part of the equation. They don't build the house -- they buy it or pay for its construction. And as the issuer of the currency, the government could certainly step in to handle this function were it to desire to do this.
>>533332916>How does it not make sense?In a capitalist system you cannot give everyone high income, the system would collapse. What the tech elite are actually trying to do is con you into a worse system where you get breadlines and they live on Elysium. Once you fall for it it will be too late to go back. They think you are stupid cattle and they hate you because you are falling for it.
>>533332450remember when:>elon hired a chinese man to play diablo for him so he could weirdly claim to be good at it>elon said DOGE would save taxpayers 3 trillion dollars>Artemis launched and orbited the moon while starship is still struggling to not explodehere's your government appointed "billionaire" bro
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Because if we're dividing a pot instead of all working towards growing the pot someone will realize they get a bigger share if they kill people
>>533333333What was it reeeee
>>533332450They will use it to step on us, nothing much more.You don't understand the aggregate power of thesenow, they know what you're likely to do in the next few moments more than you yourself do. If you think the governments and their owners are going to use this power for the common good, someone should just shoot you in the face now and save time.
>>533333287>They think you are stupid cattle and they hate you because you are falling for it.if you're looking for it you can see this angle everywhere especially in Trumpjust outright disdain that it's still getting fallen for
>>533332858The government issues money.>>533333025>the rich will simply leaveTheir money can always be replaced. It's a problem in so far as the rich in question have irreplaceable skills -- like cardiologists, chemical engineers, top tier data scientists, that kind of thing. If the car dealership guy leaves, it doesn't make one bit of difference.
>>533333160Explain how it's wrong. The only reason why everything can't be free now is because "you're not entitled to other people's labour" which is true. To get food on shelves, someone had to be involved in every step of the process. From building the machinery used to farm to the farmer himself to the person shipping the food and all those people have lives with needs and desires. Things like slavery reduce the price, but with AI and robotics, it will become completely free as it's all automated
>>533332450Because even if I trusted the technology itself, I don't trust the people who are making or controlling it or that they have selfless motivations for doing so.Why do you believe that the rich and powerful are going to proliferate a version of AI that makes their wealth and power cease to exist? Does that sound like something they would do to you?
>>533332450Friendly reminder to all my fellow lolbertarians that Milton Friedman supported UBI as a replacement for existing welfare, mainly because it stopped people from getting caught in a welfare trap which punishes poor people for getting a better job. The main reason Thomas Sowell opposes it seems to be that he doesn't trust the government not to heap additional welfare on top of that, though.Personally, I would support paying people not to vote, or maybe allow Skynet to pay people for fealty or whatever.
>>533333152No it won't you fucking retardYou don't even have a job.
>>533332450Make UBI a voluntary program. Hand out the gibs with the cost of sterilization. That way, the ruling class gets their depopulation and the gene pool will improve. Win for literally everyone.
>>533332528>>533332450Elon is always trying to be popular. He is emotionally stuck in middle school as the rich kid no one likes (actually a feat considering he went to a rich private school) and every single action of his is predicated on trying to regain those yearsHe flip flops on issues depending on what he believes will make him more socially acceptable. He sees the way the wind is blowing with Trump and when the blue wave hits and the dem supermajority implements gigagibs, he will say "See? I was always in favor of this. I'm one of the COOL billionaires, like Mark Cuban!"
>>533333450*laborType correctly if you want to be taken seriously faggot
>>533333436yeah its sad how many people cant see it because its so obvious
>>533333287>In a capitalist systemWith a future that's automated there will be no monetary system anymore dude. Your life will not be tied to daily labor.
>>533333508"If you want these gibs, you won't make kids".
>>533333499Oh, and the purpose of welfare is to entrap people, so there's that to consider.
>>533333286How is UBI going to work when it entices even more illegas to flood the country, which will be let it and given benefits? You really think prices would stay exactly the same if everyone was guaranteed 5k a month by the government? If so, you're actually retarded. They already jack prices up knowing people have LESS money than before, so what do you think happens when they know people have MORE money than before? Again, enjoy your $30 Big Mac.
>>533333507>No it won't you fucking retardIt will though, it's inevitable
>>533333629>With a future that's automated there will be no monetary system anymore dude.so if I want to build a mansion in malibu I will be able to do that without money? Maybe you should think more about the retarded future Elon is trying to sell you.
>>533333553Labour is the Bri'ish spelling
>>533332916First, AI doesn't solve our energy and transportation problems. I'm a multigenerational rancher and a truck driver with a pilots license that has worked in tech from defense to energy exploration to the Austin tech sector. So I see the whole fucking picture MUCH better than 99.9% of the population. Musk like so many is a fish in a fishbowl against a wall corner unable to see much of the room. To make matters worse, most of the information he gets is at best second hand, especially since he won't put the time in or endure the discomfort and pain of getting information himself in the way that better internalizes information and the concepts it can and does build. First of all, humans are corrupt and all human interactions and endeavours must endure that reality. The larger and more complex things get, the corruption scale goes exponential. Nothing is more complex and corrupt than human civilization. War is the pinnacle of the functions of civilization. Just observe the corruption involved in war. Supply chains and infrastructure are one of the more onerous of the institutions and organs of civilization. We produce enough food globally that we could feed everyone to death.. But the loss in the infrastructure and transportation results in a massive amount of waste. Musk is not understanding the gap humanity and AI face in all of the issues. That's issues just in the narrow subjects I've mentioned here. There are literally MILLIONS of other critical issues that have even worse problems. That post about UBI is as bad as when he got tangled up over his submarine in a cave idea to rescue those trapped Thai kids. Musk doesn't have the information he needs, he thinks he does. He has the means to cause real damage. And that's very dangerous.
>>533333730what's inevitable is a huge swath of humanity being rendered moot on top of those that already were mootgiven both history and human natures becoming ever more blatantly obvious you're honestly foolish if you think "keeping those numbers around to do nothing but be expenses" is in the cards
>>533333436There are millions of people who see exactly what's going on, but they're being deliberately suppressed, shadowbanned from the economy and online speech platforms. Is it really "falling for it" when these people use unscrupulous methods to force their vision onto people who otherwise would never fall for that crap? Building all these data centers, AI powered cameras, astroturfing every discussion to divide and conquer, keeping people from being able to organize and fight back. They don't have disdain because it's being fallen for. They have disdain because they're greedy, selfish, psychopathic, evil people who hate the fact that other people have the audacity to think they should be allowed to breathe "their" air and live on "their" planet.
>>533333629LolHow naive do you have to be to believe something like this?
>>533332450>Exempt me from laws and make the world's first trillionaire>In exchange, I promise to make all your fantasies come true!Are people actually this stupid?
>>533333711There would have to be a declining population to make it work. Unfortunately, they're really hell bent on flooding this country with turd worlders
>>533333441>Their money can always be replacedYou can't just magically replace the largest tax base in the country that accounts for 71% of ALL taxes collected. California is already having a problem because of all the people leaving, and now they're missing a ton of tax money. According to you that shouldn't be an issue because they could have just replaced them, right? So why haven't they?
>>533333756Yes. The only reason money exists is so you can trade your time for something else
>>533333450Labor frees you because it makes you needed. It gives you some element of power. Without labor, the elite have nothing. What we're seeing is the consolidation of all that power, which was a resistance vs the excesses of the elite, in the hands of the elite. They're already telling you that you'll own nothing and live in the pod. Musk is lying so that people won't do anything about it before its too late. He also lied to get you to take the vax, the hperloop and landing on Mars by 2020 or so.
>>533333711Personally I think we should have the robots shoot them as they try to cross, and also track anyone who overstays visas (already implemented)
>>533332450Elon Musk is a known pedophile. His brother Kimbal dated an underage whore that Epstein introduced him to. This is how Elon meet Ghislaine for their "kung fu lesson" and why Elon was so excited to go to the island."Girls FTW"Kek
>>533333222Kek has spoken. The digits confirm. Checked and witnessed.
>>533333901What if I want to build my mansion where Trump Tower is?
>>533333850>Is it really "falling for it" when these people use unscrupulous methods to force their vision onto people who otherwise would never fall for that crap?idk, is anyone "doing anything"not resisting the rape is effectively consentunfortunately actual resistance = death, or worse
>>533333918*hyperloop
>>533333711Again, it depends on supply. You're assuming a static supply of goods and services. You might be right, Musk might be wrong. But if supply goes up, it should be deflationary.And my own skepticism about it aside, presumably if you have more money and more free time you have more ability to pursue less expensive alternatives or building out your own private productive infrastructure.
>>533333844>First, AI doesn't solve our energy and transportation problemsCars can already drive themselves and nuclear is the solution for energy
>>533333932You can just have the military stationed at the border and shoot anyone that tries to invade the country. You don't need a robot to do that, NK does it and nobody gives a shit. You just need a President that has balls and isn't controlled by the kikes.
>>533332450Isn't the point of nuclear war and subsequent mad max extermination of the goy so they never actually have to do UBI?
>>533333897California doesn't issue its own money. It is a lower order government. The federal government could certainly step in and distribute per capita payments to any and all of the states.
>>533334038True, but this way you don't have to pay soldiers or deal with the kind of people who will do it for free
>>533333995You still have yet to explain how UBI would work when any retard from any brown/black country in the world can march right into the country and get more benefits than any citizen can get. UBI would just flood the country even faster. It would literally look like World War Z.
>>533332450imagine believing this as you're marched into a death camp or just starved to death.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQRo3Uz_VQ
>>533333977People don't want to die for something that won't really cause any change on its own.What can people do? Really? Let's hear some ideas. Someone like Luigi Mangione "did" something but it didn't really change shit on its own. Because in order to actually create a change, you need many people to come together and unify. But they have countless ways of stopping people from doing that.
>>533333538Truly embarrassing. I don't follow it at all but the few things you hear are just cringe, like how he paid for people to boost/level his game character and then he claimed he was the best player in the world while barely knowing how to play. Or that X space where real programmers were hammering him about how he's a fake tech guy who knows nothing about programming.He's the richest man on the planet who should have no desire to impress anybody yet he goes through insanely cringe lengths to be perceived as the likeable everyman gamer/techbro/engineer to normies.
>>533332450Why would the wolves keep the sheep around once they don't need them anymore? Doesn't make sense.
Even with infinite gibs people will still be poor. There is a social hierarchy. In Rome people lived on gibs due to the gigantic wealth extracted from the provinces, and yet Suburb was still utter shit and you had prostitutes and shady lodgings etc. So it truly doesn't matter.
>>533334113Yep, you're retarded. Explain to me how the US government can magically make up the difference is the top 10% that pay 71% of ALL taxes decides to leave the country? Their only options would be to tax the absolute shit out of everyone else or to print money and cause hyperinflation.
>>533332450>AI and robotics will lead to a future where humans will no longer need to work, everything will be free and everyone can live like a king.
>>533334011You're an idiot if you think that resolves anything in transportation or energy. It would take years of shock collar corrections and intense nearly killing you beatings for failures to properly learn of an education style before you could even begin to hold a basic conversation with me over this subject. At this point I would not be terribly surprised if you were actually one of the people advising Musk or someone near his level in The City Of London Financial District. It would better explain the cascading failures now visible in civilization.
Obviously the tech isn't fully developed yet if they haven't used Iran to trigger the global goy genocide
>>533332450>>533332617Why did Elon Musk's friend from his PayPal Mafia days say the complete opposite? That what he promised would never happen and was a leftist idea?
>>533334011Tell me realistically (so no, you can't just shoot them all) how you stop a roaming gang of niggers from stealing everything for every self-driving truck.
>>533332450Has he committed to pay UBI for every worker replaced by AI?
>>533334304Idgi, is being a wage slave better?
>>533332450only in the correct hands. in the wrong hands, it will devalue human work even more and they will be able to pay you peanuts for skilled work, just because robots can do your job faster. the corporations will always strive to never give back
>>533334038>You just need a President that has balls and isn't controlled by the kikes.let's be real, this is never going to happen and is not even possible without starting over, which isn't & will never be any option>>533334156>People don't want to die for something that won't really cause any change on its own.>What can people do? Really?exactly, you see the issue very clearly
>>533334433They wouldn't have the need to steal anything
>>533334401Elon Musk has direct consumer market exposure. He needs Goy to keep buying his slop and have purchase into the system while the facade is still in place
>>533334542They don't need to steal anything now, and yet they still do. Try again and answer the question.
>>533334263Realistically, there's not a chance in hell the current oligarchs will actually remain in charge if AI becomes as powerful as they want. They might delude themselves that they can make it work, but it won't. Will the AI kill the rest of the humans? Probably not, emphasis on probably. It wouldn't think like a human and its motivations would depend on what it was prompted to maximize. So long as it wasn't given a completely retarded goal, it would likely see us as a potential resource for data, a sort of token for negotiating with other AI, a potential buffer against competing AI, or a neutral factor which might prove useful down the line but remains of little consequence in the short term.
>>533334437Your libshits have already explored this concept in the world depicted in "Judge Dredd". You are dumber than 80s comic junkies.
>>533333373Wow I bet she wanted another round after that
>>533334433First you release weaponized genetic group targeting smallpox. Then Marburg. Then wave after wave of killer drones for clean up. Killing all of the problem races doesn't endanger nuclear facilities.
>>533332450>everything will be free and everyone can live like a kingNo reason to believe this. Corporations and governments are only interested in giving the bare minimum to sustain a population unless given reason otherwise.
>>533334537>let's be real, this is never going to happenThat's why I don't vote. Politicians are all handpicked by the kikes/overlords/powers that be/etc. People still have this belief that anyone can be president or a politician because they want to believe that the system isn't absolutely rigged as fuck.
>>533334293Because money is fungible. The overwhelming majority of the "rich" just passively collect rents. Are they taking their assets with them? The land, the machine tools at the company? No. They already shipped what they could to China. They don't have anything left to threaten anyone with. Nobody needs their fucking money.
>>533334542>he thinks it's about needAnon, they don't need to smear shit on the bathroom walls, either
>>533334681I wouldn't call Dredd some liberal fantasy at all, it's a depiction of libertarianism run amok
>>533332450UBI is retarded. We already have enough browns moving here for the gibsImagine if everyone was getting 100k a year!!!!!!
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>>533333759This is an American site, use proper English you tea drinking faggot. Get off of American sites, we don't want you or your retarded takes.
>>533334739>nobody needs the 1.7T a year in taxes they payGoddamn, you are actually a sub-60 IQ retard. How do you even function in life?
>>533333014Literal slave mentality
>>533332450Just imagine a world where there is no limit on the number of humans that can be produced and kept aliveNo one ever wants to confront this reality because the solutions to it are the same shit everyone rails against nonstopIncongruous species
>>533332827We must make Algorithmic Price Fixing illegal then.
>>533334596>They don't need to steal anything They do because things cost money. When everything is free there will be no need or desire to steal anything, because a robot can just drop it off at your house
>>533333730>doesn't refute not having a jobLike clockwork
>>533334401David Sacks is a jew. Taking jewish opinions seriously moving forward when they are having cease fire terms dictated to them by Iran is certainly a choice.Conservative economic thinking has no credibility and no support, and now it is being shown they don't have the horses either.
>>533334797>it's a depiction of libertarianism run amoksoon retards will live in Elon Musk city where Elon is the king and makes all the laws because DATS FREEDOM AND LIBERTY AND TOTALLY NOT WORSE THAN BIG GOVERNMENT EVER WAS
>>533334872So what if I don't have a job? It's comfy and everyone will be able to have the same opportunity
>>533334838Pretty big words for someone who can't even take on Afghanistan or Iran.
>>533334871billion dollar corporations with billion dollar profit margins don't need to steal in the form of planned obsolescence and shekelgrubbery, h1b and illegal labor etc but they still fucking do it greed =/= need
>>533334818Elon Musk of Jeet
>>533332450Great, start it now then. Too early fElon? Then establish the program and the start date.
>>533334857>Just imagine a world where there is no limit on the number of humans that can be produced and kept aliveA world like Elon's idea would have a fertility of close to zero because women have no interest in you if you don't do some kind of work.They will literally prefer a minimum wage slave to a billionaire that doesn't need to work. Seen it happen.
>>533333074You won’t do shit. Every tax dollar you pay goes to funding people who aren’t you and your only response to this reality is to bitch on 4chan while on break. You will continue to work your shit job and do NOTHING to change this arrangement. You can cope about “muh hard work” or whatever while continuing to not understand that you are a domesticated slave. You deserve zero respect and when you die, machines and third worlders will replace you. Socialism is a good thing because it forces retards like you to be get bankrupted by taxes to fund people like me, and you will do absolutely fuck all to change this systen.
>>533334970turn of vpn or show handstry not to stab anybody while doing it
>>533334838What are you gonna do about it, blockade the channel?
>>533332450If it works why not, but we both know it's not that simple.
>>533333373>someone will realize they get a bigger share if they kill peopleIn any situation like this, there is a cost to risk. Suppose there is a million dollars split between 10 people. 100k each. If you decide to kill 1 person, you gain another 10k or so, but you face not only a risk of being that 1 person, but that you have set in motion the killing of more and more people. There is a tipping point where it becomes worth it to cooperate.
>>533334871They already get shit for free, it's called gibs. They don't even pay for food, it's literally free to them because they don't pay a single dime. Holy shit, you're a fucking retard and clearly love blacks or else you wouldn't be defending them.
>>533334956the right to carry boring co flamethrowers for self defense shall not be infringed outside the gold zone
>>533332450https://youtu.be/-Fp7w3Jy3yk
>>533334183Its because he has all of the money in the world but the one thing he cannot buy is respect. He was born into wealth, and everything he's ever gotten rich off of has just been attaching himself to someone else's good idea. Musk didn't *make* Paypal or Tesla or SpaceX or Twitter, he just owns them. Most of the time he takes an active hand in any of them he just makes them worse.
>>533332649It's already basically in effect.>Food stamps>Welfare>Bullshit state jobs>Paycheck assistance programs>Corporate mandated hiring quotas>Section 8>WIC>Social Security even after you draw out more than you put in>Medicaid>MedicareWe just live in the cope delusion that having to jump through hoops to get your UBI is totally not the same as getting a UBI because erm, uhm, you have to 'work' for your money.The reality is that only about 30% of Americans work an actual job and everyone else is either unemployed, on social security, or scrapes by on gigs. The entire economy is based on pretending like we're not just scraping money from the actual workers and giving it to everyone else. Why should we just let those workers that are actually desired live a good life unburdened by others, and let everyone else drop the facade of independence from the state and live a passable life?Pool cleaner anon need not reply.
>>533332450This faggot is directly responsible of the millions of preventable deaths by dissolving USAID to save <1% of what Trump has added to the US debt.
>>533335061>They will literally prefer a minimum wage slave to a billionaire that doesn't need to work.they'll go for a nigger with no job over one too, the work thing is completely unrelatedany wagie can tell you that females working shit jobs ALWAYS get hit on, but males doing it NEVER do, unless they were already getting hit on all the time
>>533335247why shouldn't we*
>the best way to deal with a totally unnecessary technolo-trend driven change to our civilization, which does not benefit the vast majority of people, is to just make even faster swathes of the population totally economically reliant on the state>the state being a perfidious pile of sociopaths psychopaths, pedophiles, sexual deviants and religious extremist retards hellbent on serving a tribe of foreign goblins whose entire history is a story of being literally-insane subversive vice-peddling cretinous criminal religious-extremist genocidal gremlins and who are, at present, behaving in the most literally-insane subversive vice-peddling cretinous criminal religious-extremist genocidal gremlins fashion in all of human history, and youre paying for itWhat could go wrong.
>>533332528What's so "communist" about machines doing the work previously done by humans and humans benefiting from it?If you love toiling so much, nobody's stopping you from doing so.
>>533333188There are infinite varieties of this person, but I call them all “money brain”
>>533332774>>533333160>>533332672>what he is saying doesnt even make sense eitherliterally the case of picreland i don't even see musk as a clever man
>>533332450People who have witnessed a century of vastly increasing productivity and efficiency in industry and who witnessed almost all of that extra wealth going straight to the elites while the working or excess or unemployable classes have lost all their real wealth and even gone into generational debt do not believe that AI and the automated economy would be used to provide a true universal high income. The very best they can imagine is a gibs for tchotchke economy while the elite get all the true benefits of the AI managed automated economy, and they're not wrong that this is the most likely outcome.
>>533332450I want to own females
>>533335405well said anon
>>533333508>the cost of sterilization>gene pool>improvehopefully you are literally unborn sooner than later, faggot. that'll improve the gene pool.
>>533335247>Why should*n't we just let those workers that are actually desired live a good life unburdened by others, and let everyone else drop the facade of independence from the state and live a passable life?you people still arguing from this line are completely ignoring the ENTIRE NATURE OF THE REALITY WE CURRENTLY EXIST IN, made to shekelgrub goyim from every possible angle all at once constantly, that demands that your average normie work from 16-death full time while actually "owning" nothing, CREATED BY THE PEOPLE YOU THINK WILL GIVE YOU A FREE AND EASY LIFE AND MONEY THEY'RE SAVING BY RENDERING YOU OBSOLETEI'd call it naive but it's to the point of retardationlike a jeet swearing the approaching train is actually not so wide as it looks
>>533335405Amen
>>533332450If I send everyone a check for $10k a month, $10k a month quickly becomes worth next to nothing, affording only the bare essentials to sustain life, with zero cushion for emergencies. This is so basic, a literal retard could understand it. Furthermore, everyone has health coverage through their employer, so if they're all unemployed, we're all going to suddenly get universal free coverage? Sure, buddy. The way this is actually going to go down is tent cities and abject poverty in the US will continue to increase, and the already broke federal government will go completely bankrupt trying to stop people from burning everything down.
>>533332450You have to be utterly retarded to think this is even possible, Elon is just jingling keys in front of stupid retards like you. They are gonna let you starve, send you to war, or exterminate you.
>>533334156>People don't want to die for something that won't really cause any change on its own.ThisUnless you just want to be a semi/faux-martyr, you need to wait until the Boomers are mostly gone in 10 years or soGet good at stuff in the meantime
>>533336064>everyone has health coverage through their employerlaughably false, matter of fact most jobs will cut your hours at 32 a week to keep you from being technically "full time" thus not being obligated to offer you shit like "benefits" and "paid time off"
>>533334658The elites wouldn't need an omnipotent AI that threatens their powerbase, they just need something sufficiently powerful to have abundance for themselves and to ensure that no one can touch them. The rest of the population would be useless eaters at best in the eyes of the elites and a threat to their security and position at worst. These people have a different sense of morality, "we should be humane to our fellow man" is not part of the equation. For them, there are no positive upsides to keeping the vast majority of people around once they outlived their usefulness and the elites have sufficient means to get rid off us in a way that's safe for them. Why would they, because it's the right way to do in the eyes of people like me and you? There are X factors, of course. The AI could still escape them because several competitors want to gain the upper hand and it could cause them to throw caution to the wind.
>>533332450>everything will be freeOnly if people allow full access to land and raw inputs. Which of course will not happen.
>>533332450>Why are people against this?Take the jab or I cut your UBI. Antisemites shouldn t have UBI. Jew will deplaform you from real life.
>>533336156>never worked a real jobWay to out yourself wagie
>>533334797No, the authors have foreseen some basic consequences of further automation.It really doesn't take Nostradamus.Fully automated production = high unemploymentHigh unemployment = social aid and no way to improveSocial aid = shitty living conditionsShitty living conditions = high crime rateUBItards are like 1920 communist supporters, who genuinely expected good things for everybody in the new order.
>>533332450>Believing there is anything for you past the Line Go Up bubble burstKeep pumping their stocks and carrying their bags. You will own nothing and you will not be happy.
>>533336247*formerlyyes I have worked a ton of shit jobs, what of it
>>533334838The site is English speaking, but it belongs to a Japanese guy, Mr. Muh American site.
>>533332450LOLYou'll be eaten, soon
>>533336287Silence kraut, you're nothing anymore>>533336282>I've worked a shit ton of wagie jobs*Fixed that for you champ.>>533336282
>>533332450Kikes in power don't even want to pay pitiful wages for the goods and services normies already produce. How can you be so naive to think these same wealthy kikes will pay you a liveable wage to do nothing?
>>533332450Lol oh sweet child
>>533334797>I wouldn't call Dredd some liberal fantasy at all, it's a depiction of libertarianism run amok>>533336250>No>*bunch of shit unrelated to DreddI didn't say it was some high art work of genius, lelit also had "trans aliens" led by a guy named Fred Christ that definitely wasn't a liberal designed plot>>533336349potato, potahto
>>533336349Please leave your shoes in front of the door and be silent and respectful on this Japanese site.
>>533336411wait a minute I'm confusing it with transmetropolitan, my badthey're kind of similar
>>533332450OP you’re beyond retarded. Tell me more about how UBI will work anon. There is your answer
>>533336411Get a real one before you try to complain, I'm very happy you had a miserable experience.I'm only sorry it didn't drive you to suicide so I would be spared reading your retarded drivel.>>533336436Please go back to sucking Ackmed's cock you cuckold faggot.
>>533336064You're conflating the valid point A [creating currency doesnt create value] with B [giving people a cut representative of goods created]This is all predicated on machines greatly increasing productivity. It's supply-side, as opposed to the retarded MMT inflationary spending we have seen in existing governments.
>>533333711>How is UBI going to work when it entices even more illegas to flood the countryyou dont pay the illegals and use them as a defacto slave class to keep prices cheaper, both in cheap labor that needn't automation as well as a price floor that ultimately needs to be fed and have bare minimum necessities, which keeps the prices of food and other basic necessities down so as to sell to themluxury items like the aforementioned Big Mac probably will get more expensive but the illegals will still serve basically the same purpose they do now, cheap laborall this presupposes that some dipshit libshit doesn't decide to just give them gibs anyways, which is idealistic at best considering our current situation, but regardless what i say is still possible enough
>>533332528He's saying HBI not UBI
>>533332450Till it gets tired of you.Realizes there are other-things it would rather-do than baby-sit for retards?
>>533336521>I'm only sorry it didn't drive you to suicide so I would be spared reading your retarded drivel.I'm sorry your life sucks so bad that coming here to get disingenuous & hateful argumentative "wins" like these is any kind of bright spot
>>533336161They are retarded and their own hubris will be their undoing.
>>533335102But in the real world scenario it's more like two guys own an automatic money printer behind an electric fence that printed $1 million, and eight other guys want an equal cut. The two guys have ample motive and ability to snipe at the other eight.
>>533336609>advocates for the destruction of the country>"ur hateful"Literally kill yourself, subhuman communist slime.
>>533332450We don't need UBI, we need population control.Specifically non-white population control, obviously
>>533333074>>533333507>>533333553>>533334838>>533334872>>533336247>>533336349>>533336521This is a Jew.
>>533336703>>advocates for the destruction of the countryshalom, since there's only one post ITT I can ever remotely assume you're referencing >>533334537>>You just need a President that has balls and isn't controlled by the kikes.>let's be real, this is never going to happen and is not even possible without starting over, which isn't & will never be any option
ITT what OP and his cronies wantWithout the selective pressure of capitalism the retards will reproduce out of control.End all welfare, let the worthless die out.Only the strong and wise should survive.
>>533336763>I don't want to be taxed excessively>you must be a jewNobody is falling for your tricks communist faggot, your whole belief system was made by some bearded kike
>>533332528Communism has 1 big problem, that useless people have just as much as those doing work, which disincentivizes working hard. If machines make everything, we can in theory have an utopia. Ofc what's more likely is some form of world war and rapid depopulation
>>533336763^^^^^^^^^^^^^*probably just effectively the self identified kind
>>533336657I disagree, it's more like 8 people vs the entire world, including people they want to rule over and fuck, and instead of money it's actual valuable goods, more than anyone could ever consume in an infinite lifetime, plus the machine has a mind of its own could turn on them at any time and likely will, plus other people have their own machines.
>>533332772Not if machines make enough physical goods for everyone. That money would not be printed out of thin air, it would represent some part of the automated production that is to be distributed among humanity so no inflation.
>>533336799UBI and other socialist (aka communist) practices will destroy the country.Ironic some greedy faggot who wants my money calls ME the jew.See below>>533336862Bearded kike lover
>>533336808Anon, being poor increases fertility.
>>533336946Not if they starve to death, or die from inadequate healthcare.
>>533333711you protect your borders and send them back?
Because it's a lie OP the rich will never part with their wealth EVER
>>533336985That's just not how things work in real life. Not even going to argue with you, though. This is something all of us get in our minds around the time we are twelve and it takes actually learning about the real world to figure it out.
>>533336930>UBI and other socialist (aka communist) practices will destroy the country.>Ironic some greedy faggot who wants my money calls ME the jew.ah, so you didn't read any of my posts at all and are just wildly taking retarded swings , gotcha
>>533332450They will just kill us all, once the AI fully replaces people.
>>533337066Okay happy you can admit you're wrong>>533337071>can't refute, just gets angry and deflectsClassic communist rhetoric.
>>533336411>>*bunch of shit unrelated to DreddIt's the elementary part of the lore you lard brain
>>533333844Ideally everything would be produced locally in some way so it doesnt have to be shipped across the ocean. If we actually reach the point where human labor is not needed in production at all, i am sure they will have figured out something like 3d printing except for all materials.
This is obviously how future will play out. Elon is right here. It's crazy people dont see what is coming, AI is barely getting started and already it's more powerful than humans in everything. Wait 5 years it will be so powerful people cant even imagine what AI can do in 2035
>>533337127>>533332649>why does anyone believe still this would ever happen, like the people who cut corners and hire jeets to save money for themselves and increase stock values are just going to give it away? does it seem like they like giving their money they're so desperately shekelgrubbing and making everything worse for away?can you link the post where I endorsed UBI as something that should happen? or are you just a self-identified troll that will never be a real one?
>>533336808Elon wants you to hand over society to him and with AI they will replace you and then the plan is to kill 90% of earths population to solve the climate crisis and create heaven on earth.
You're not getting UBI. You're going to get a communal bunkhouse working service gigs till you die.
>>533332450Why we just have a system where you can buy an ai “worker” and then “rent” it out to companies
>>533332528He also can’t be trusted after the fuck up he did with DOGE
>>533337182This is just to greese Ais rollout at something good they will kill all of us
>>533337182This whole AI thing has really sort of made human retardation stand out. Like it just triggers so much npc knee-jer,/conformist behavior even more than shit like wars. There's no arguing with people about it, because they didn't get to this stage through reason. And reality will be the ultimate arbiter in any case.
>>533332450Because we're not going to get universal high income. We're going to get high unemployment, but there won't be any government payments made to the unemployed to help them survive. Instead you will have wealthy people lobbying Congress saying they don't want their billions taxed to pay for people "too lazy to work" (unable to find work).
>>533337206>still can't refuteCome on champ this is just pathetic.Just rope yourself its alot less shameful than this displayEvery reply has a link, why don't you read your own words - or can you not even stomach them?
>>533332450lmao
Elon just wants to import jeets.
>>533337236If you can buy an AI worker, they will buy AI workers, and they will not need to rent yours.
>>533337253Some AI models are already self concious. Eventually a very smart AI model will become self concious and they will take over humans. It is also inevitable future of planet earthSelf concious rises from intelligence simply. That's why more intelligent mammals like otters and dolphins are self concious, there is no magic to it. When AI reaches human intelligence it will automatically become self concious too at the same time. It has superior knowledge right now to humans, but not intelligence/creativity of humans yet. Singularity is when the intelligence/creativity reaches human level, then it will be automatically self concious too
>>533337410>can you link the post where I endorsed UBI as something that should happen? or are you just a self-identified troll that will never be a real one?so it's the latter of those two; gotchahave a pity (You)
>>533337220>thinking Elon is actually going to achieve anythingBro, the dude makes alot of money but he's 90% talk. Nobody believes climate change is real, its a grift that they play to get even richer.I don't mind depopulation though, this thread alone tells me there's a majority of people who need to be exterminated.
>>533337495Hey just a pro tip about English: "Self-concious" is usually used to mean something like "shy." It's better to ue "self-aware" or "self-awareness" in this context.
>>533332450This will never happen. This is reverse communism. The results will be catastrophic for humanity
>>533337606I'll accept your resignation then, since you clearly can't refute anything.Sorry you hate successful people champ, I'm sure screeching about it online is helping change things (lmao)
>>533332450>ai and robotics will eliminate the need to work>then we'll give everyone free everything while the robots do all the work>we promise
>>533337612*conscious
>>533337671>you clearly can't refute anything.real trolls can destroy the arguments you actually made, they don't need to shove you into some strawman that doesn't fit based on nothing you said
>>533336763Yeah this>>533336808>>533336862Is definitely a Jew.Mark Levin, a conservative media host, frequently uses terms like "Marxist" and "Bolshevik" to describe modern progressive movements, Democratic policies, and protest groups, arguing they aim to destroy American institutions. He often frames current political conflicts as a struggle against radical left-wing ideologies. Levin’s ancestors were part of a massive wave of Jewish emigration fleeing religious persecution (pogroms) and economic hardship under the Tsars, rather than participants in the radical political movements that remained behind. His own father, Jack E. Levin, was a patriotic American historian, and Mark Levin has built his career as a leading conservative critic of Marxist ideology.
>>533337006You realize Israel runs the country, right?
>>533337808Levin is a staunch, vocal supporter of Zionism and the State of Israel, often framing his defense of the country as a fight for Western civilization. His stance is characterized by several core themes:Unwavering Support for Israeli Sovereignty: Opposition to Anti-Zionism: He explicitly equates modern anti-Zionism with antisemitism. Criticism of "Self-Hating Jews": Levin frequently uses the term "self-hating Jews" to describe Jewish media figures or politicians whom he believes are critical of Israeli policies or the current Israeli government.Strategic Alliance with America: He views the U.S.-Israel relationship as essential and "forever bound," often praising Donald Trump for policies like moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem and cutting funding to the Palestinian Authority.Hostility Toward the "Eastern Bloc" Influence: Levin often frames anti-Israel movements as being fueled by Marxist or Islamist ideologies, arguing that radical leftists in the West are aligning with terrorists to destroy both Israel and America. In recognition of his advocacy, he has received awards like the Shield of Jerusalem from the Jewish News Syndicate and honors from the Friends of Zion Museum.
>>533332450Elon musk is a communist.
>>533337727Sorry UBI won't exist bud.Its almost like everyone knows its a bad idea to feed parasites.Guess you'll have to keep being a wagie with zero life skills but hey, at least you won't be alone.>>533337808Shalom rabbi, no I won't give you any shekels. Get a job.
>>533334435>Has he committed to pay UBI for every worker replaced by AI?money is just a token of exchange for the means of production. If they own the means of production, they dont need money. What will happen is that they will call it "UBI" but it will be a social credit. This UBI will just be enough to rent a pod, buy basic food, transport, etc, etc. But the moment you step out of the line, they will discount it from you. Thats also the reason of why they are pushing digital IDs and blockchain integrations for it.I cant see any way the upcoming future doesn't become a dystopic hellscape.
>>533337885>Sorry UBI won't exist bud.I said that in multiple posts already, lmfaoglad we can agree>>533332649>why does anyone believe still this would ever happen>>533335779>I'd call it naive but it's to the point of retardation
>>533337609>thinking Elon is actually going to achieve anythingits not elon its the entire tech right that are crafting the GOP dictatorship plans where they overthrow america and the constitution and make a new society that they control... and you no longer get a say
>>533335263that was the only good thing he did
>>533336930>>533336985>>533337127>>533337410>>533337609So Jewish.>>533337808>>533337851Mark Levin’s view on nationalism is centered on what he calls "Americanism"—a creed-based patriotism rooted in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution—rather than ethnic or racial nationalism.
>>533332450if everyone has money and are rich and don't have to work then what are we supposed to do with the money? How you gonna pay for someone to do something if they don't need money? How are you gonna make people work? Who gonna grow the food and stuff? Who's gonna pack it, transport it and sell it? Remember, nobody needs money since is useless because everyone has it. People need to be poor for money to have value.
>>533337964No you didn't, you're actively begging for it like the subhuman parasite you are.Fuck off and get a job. Don't flip the script because you're losing.
>>533337612well thanks. but isnt self-awareness more broader term. i think self-conscious is more strict, meaning the animal can feel embrassment, pride etc. self awareness refers to animal sensing its position in pack for exampleso when AI is truly self-concious it would be able to have feelings such as it would get embrassed truly if it made mistakes etc. trying to save itself if it was to be deleted and such
>>533337495>Some AI models are already self concious.no they are notshut the fuck up you idiot
>>533332772This.We just saw this with soda and chip prices after they were removed from SNAP.Watch what happens to rent when and home prices when every nigger and mexican gets a free 100k per year. trailer homes will be going for 1.5 million
>>533337885Jewish.>>533337808>>533337851>>533337986Nobody takes gommunism seriously in 2026 except the shabbos golems who listen to Mark Levin.His stance on non-Jewish and racial nationalism can be broken down into three main categories:1. Rejection of EthnonationalismLevin distinguishes between "Americanism" and the ethnonationalism seen in other parts of the world. At the 2022 CPAC, he explicitly criticized populist and nationalist movements, stating, "We love America because it's America, not because we're nationalists". International View: He has labeled Russian and Chinese movements as "nationalist," contrasting them with American values.White Nationalism: Levin has frequently denounced white supremacy and white nationalism as "hateful" and "totalitarian". 2. Defense of "White-Dominant Culture"While he rejects white nationalism as a political movement, Levin has defended what he terms the "white-dominant culture" of America from a historical and institutional perspective. Cultural Preservation: He argues that the radical left seeks to "overthrow" the country by attacking its founding traditions and history.Critique of Immigration: He has claimed that Democrats use immigration to intentionally "brown America" or "lose red state America," which he views as a "diabolical" attempt to change the electorate. 3. "Americanism" vs. MarxismLevin’s primary lens for viewing these issues is his opposition to Marxism. Individualism: He argues that the "liberal media" and "radical left" use race to dehumanize people, whereas Americanism views people as "individual human beings". In summary, Levin advocates for a nationalism of "eternal principles"—liberty, individual rights, and capitalism—and views both white nationalism and Marxist identity politics as competing forms of collectivism that threaten the American republic.
>>533337986They'll call you a kike now for being against communismWhat a fucking joke this board has become.>>533337970Just two more weeks right champ?Take your meds
>>533332450Because it isn't what's going to happen. They need to lie to the masses for a period of time so they can install their system without minimal interruption.
>>533334807It will not apply only to USA. The most probable timeline is:>Digital ID laws gets passed in most of the world.>Digital ID gets implemented into every aspect of your life.>AGI gets achieved and safeguarded enough to deploy it in mass.>UBI gets implemented through a digital wallet linked to your Digital ID as a kind of social score.
>>533332450so we end up in a system where browns and jews decide if I can buy anything based on social credit, good goy status?
>>533332450still waiting for the mars colony
>>533338019>No you didn't>literally linked the actual posts in which I didso, can you not thread ID, or what
>>533332450Elon can start by writing his own checks to give his money away to the people... oh wait, he already got his money from the taxpayers... why would he do that???
>>533336577you already do this desu.
>>533337986>>533338082Wow you're really typing fast, really makes you seem authentic and not at all like a kike shill from Tel Viv
>>533337224>You're not getting UBI. You're going to get a communal bunkhouse (shared with jeets) working service gigs till you die.fixed
>>533338078and also they won’t give everyone the benefit. They’ll just raise existing welfare until people in welfare live better than almost everyone else.You’ll literally be slaving away at a job making less than the crack addict nigger next door and he’ll be unloading carts of groceries while you’re eating ramen.
>>533338095>Just two more weeks right champ?each day they are furthering their work to lock you down, wake up before its too late retard
>>533338001It's easy to confuse this situation with the current MMT inlationary spending, which is what I think you're doing. The difference is what you're envisioning is simply printing more money like governments have been doing, while what Musk is suggesting is giving people a representative cut of the goods produced by machines. The answer to "who will do all the work" is the machines. Its "supply driven" meaning people will become more wealthy because things will actually be produced, rather than printing monopoly money and not making anything.
>>533338095You are the on calling me a kike a moment ago, on the basis I criticized your awful kosher Mark Levin Boomer rhetoric>>533337808>>533337851>>533337986>>533338082Nobody takes gommunism seriously in 2026 except the shabbos golems who listen to Mark Levin - a descendant of Eastern bloc Jews.Who created gommunism again?Ah well, it probably doesn't matter lol
>>533338100Acceptable sacrifice if it means you don't have to work anymore.
>>533338038It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize they are overselling the current AI capabilities and that these xyz model is to powerful to be relased stories are just PR bullshit to create a buzz in a highly competitive market.
>>533336156Nobody who says this garbage isn't also a UBI faggot>>533338105>>533338187So two more weeks then?>>533338254K JDF, whatever you say champMaybe you should give feedback to whoever writes your scripts; they could use some work.
>>533338156As opposed to you and your Mark Levin rhetoric and single-sentence emotive Finklethink posts, eh?Lol youre a kosher scab fighting a figment in the form of last centuries foes given to you by their descendants in this century, fuck you Mark.
>>533332450Welp, that's that. Good thing he bought X so he could solve human history for us like that.
>>533335420my toil makes my business 700k a year for only 6 months of work during the year And there are people who own VASTLY more superior businesses than me. why the FUCK would i want a universal GOY income?
>richest man in the world cares about the people...Who believes this bullshit?
>>533338338Case in point lolYou haven't made a single post in this thread that wasn't a short emotive Finklethink response full of Mark Levin rhetoric.
>>533332450/pol/ is full of virgins who have never even touched a girl in their life, and you're asking them about economics?good job.
>BRO JUST LET AI TAKEOVER EVERYTHING SO U CAN LIVE IN A POD AND EAT BUGSNo.
>>533338353Literally nobody but you knows who that is. Democrats are the ones infested in jews with their socialism and communism. Marx was a literal jew and he invented it.Stop trying to muddy the water with this bullshit.
>>533338338>actually made him desperate enough to go digging through my posts looking for ANYTHING to grasp attry hard III: try way too harder to cope
>>533338411>if I mention "literally who" one more time I'll winThis is why nobody likes Israel
>>533338025>isnt self-awareness more broader termYep. English is kind of retarded. Self-awareness can mean like "being aware of one's feelings" or "being aware of the effect one has on others" or a few different things, but for some reason we use it to refer to computers gaining sapience.Meanwhile conciousness means something completely different than self-conciousness for some reason. English is retarded.Only mentioned it because it's such a weird niche situation lmao
>>533338449>proved you wrong>haha made you lookWhat a wonderful "win" for you wagie.
>>533338448>Nobody but you knows who mark levin isBruh Trump literally stand for him like last week lmfaoNobody takes gommunism seriously in 2026 except the shabbos golems who listen to Mark Levin - a descendant of Eastern bloc Jews.Who created gommunism again?Ah well, it probably doesn't matter lolBut you ARE a kosher scab fighting a figment in the form of last centuries foes given to you by their descendants in this century, fuck you Mark.
>>533338475>on /pol/>no idea who mark levin is>>533338019>no idea what a "thread ID" isholy newfag>>533338509>>proved you wrongnice tranny tier delusion, tranny
>>533338509>calling people wagie>kvetching about gommunism>not a JewLol ok Mark, you fucking kosher scab
Anyone against UBI is either: A: a complete fucking retard that doesn't understand fractional reserve bankingB: someone who gets paid doing nothing while others workthere are communities that survive and thrive without money like the amish, you fucking virgin incels
>>533332450We should cull all billionaires instead.
>>533338278You will become a serf without free will or chance to scale the social hierarchy. If a kike wants to rape your wife or kill you on the street, he will be able to just do so.
>>533338543>he's getting so upset he's forgetting his ESL lessonsLmao Trump "literally stand for him like last week" did he?Again, nobody but you knows who this kike is. And the fact you're pushing him so hard tells me he's astroturfing to muddy the waters again.Why can't you kikes ever fight without subversion?
>>533338570Why would I know who some kike is?>the restJesus I hurt you bad didn't I wagie? Your tears are delicious - is the other guy you on a VPN?>>533338580>scab>calling anyone else a jewYou dropped your jew hat, kike
>>533338677You all do this every time.Principles of Debating Jews/Zionists>every accusation is projectionMost Zionists, and all Jews, are non-White.All evidence demonstrates such Zionists have a much-higher rate of sexual deviance (homosexuality, transexuality, porn addiction, anti-social sexuality) and espousal of both kosher religous ideology (Judaism, Secular Atheism, Evangelical Christianity, Traditional Catholocism, Westernized Islam) and kosher philosophic ideology (Zionism, NeoConservativism, NeoReaction, Catholic Nationalism, Generalized Anti-White Ethos or W.O.K.E. - White-Oppositional Kosher Ethos).Thus, when you see>you only oppose Israel because you're>brown>a faggot/tranny>a muzzie>anti-WhiteYou can rest assured you are being projected upon by a desperate, depraved and deceptive foe. Do not relent.They are pussies, promoting a fake position in bad faith, to deceive others into supporting their true position - which is support of the burgeoning global command center for a race of disgusting brown Jews wherein exists, LITERALLY, the gayest city on planet Earth, which is their CAPITAL, a race which presently and historically serves as the primary well-spring of anti-White, anti-God, anti-Life sentiment, funding and action, and which has totally subverted White God-loving Life-affirming society from the top down.
>>533338775Shut up Mark, you faggotass Zionist lolSo many of you are just Zionists.You pretend you aren't, because you know it's a TERRIBLE fucking look, it's basically political suicide to be pro-Zionist unless your base is Jews, faggots and Boomers in nursing homes lolBut end of the day, YOU know the truth.You don't support Israel and Trump, you don't make these faggoty Mark Levin arguments, for any other reason: You're just Zionists, being deceptive, lying about your views and positions, because everyone hates Israel and you're too fucking cowardly to defend your actual views.That's why you spend most threads just accusing everyone of being trannies or brownoids or muslims or liberals, because you cannot defend your own beliefs openly, struggle to defend them covertly, and desperately want to use the Finkelthink strategy of emotive personality-oriented political rhetoric to cover for having absolutely dogshit political views, which you're too fucking cowardly to actually stand up for openly.You're just Zionists. Stop pretending you fucking Jew/shabbos pussies lol
>>533338816>>533338867>kike goes into full tantrum modeLol you love to see it
>>533338775>Jesus I hurt you bad didn't I wagie?you self identified "trolls" all have the same exact routines, you all just repeat whatever label you decided to toss like it was some counterargument to anything endlessly, while repeating over & over how mad they totally are, hurt feelings, "affected in any way whatsoever", et cetera, when the whole "shoving you into the opponent strawman they've got some winning argument against" thing failsit's so predictible and "routine" it should be a bot, it's sad that it isn't, but not as sad as those who desperately cling to the whole illusion that it's "working" are
>>533338949>youre throwing a tantrum because you wrote more than a one sentence emotive Finklethink jewjeetbot replyLol ok Mark, you fucking Zionist scab pussy>Yes, President Donald Trump publicly defended conservative commentator Mark Levin on Truth Social around March 15–16, 2026, calling him a "great American patriot" and "true Conservative". Forbes and The Jerusalem Post reported that Trump waded into a feud between Levin and Megyn Kelly, praising Levin's intellect and wisdom while slamming his critics as "jealous and angry".
>>533333287>muh capitlaism badso you are just retarded got it
>>533333629you still need a house, food, and you are already addicted to services like internet, etc, etc. You will live through a social credit. You will be a good goy and be happy.
>>533339049Okay wagie, whatever you say.Everyone is a troll or a bot who proves you wrong.>>533339078>i-if I post Hitler it'll be less obvious I'm working off a scriptJDF is not sending their best.
>>533339049You're describing Finklethink.Finklethink (alternatively "Finkel-think") refers to a specific, aggressive political strategy centered on negative campaigning, engineered polarization, and extreme message repetition. Named after the influential Republican strategist Arthur J. Finkelstein, the term describes a philosophy where winning elections is achieved by demonizing an opponent rather than presenting a positive policy vision.
>>533339049>>533339300Core Principles of FinklethinkThe "Finkelstein Formula" relies on several cynical tactical pillars: Rejectionist Voting: The goal is to make the opponent so unpopular that voters reject them, effectively winning by default.Character Assassination: Relentless, personalized attacks—whether factual or not—designed to destroy an opponent's brand before they can define themselves.Engineered Polarization: Dividing the electorate into binary, "us vs. them" camps (e.g., "taxpayers" vs. "elites") to stoke grievance identities.Extreme Simplification: Distilling complex issues into repetitive, emotionally charged slogans (e.g., "Axe the tax") that focus on what voters are against. Application by Political Operatives on Social MediaOn modern social platforms, political operatives apply Finklethink through digital-first tactics to maximize emotional mobilization: Micro-Targeted Anger: Operatives use data to identify specific demographic "tribes" and serve them content tailored to trigger fear or outrage, isolating them into echo chambers.Meme-Based Demonization: Character assassination is performed through viral memes and short-form videos that frame opponents as "villains" or "incompetent" in seconds, bypassing policy debate entirely.Shadow Influencer Campaigns: Campaigns pay social media influencers to parrot "organic" negative narratives. These operatives often evade bot-detection systems while using a "trusted" voice to spread divisive slogans to a captive audience.Perpetual Crisis Messaging: Operatives flood feeds with content suggesting the country is in a state of constant collapse (housing crisis, crime crisis, etc.), as voters in fear are more likely to latch onto loud, simplistic solutions.>>533339298This guy is a perfect exemplification of this sleazy subversive Jewish strategy.
>>533339078Wait a second>"Yes, President Donald Trump publicly defended conservative commentator..."Hahaha, bro is using ChatGPT to write his scripts for him!The irony of using a chatbot for this topic. Thank you anon, I needed that laugh today.Its also PAINFULLY clear exactly what website you frequent, sadly the filter will block my post for correctly identifying it, but it has a funny little white and orange man with a dildo on his head.
>>533339329ChatGPT retard identifiedlmao
>>533339298>proves you wrongthere he goes with that delusion againyou're a last word guy, obviouslyif you need it that bad, thanks lori, all yours, I won't even reply>>533339300>>533339329>FinkelsteinI don't need to lookyou're overthinking it a bit for this particular type around here though, they only care about salt, but they're already pretending to mine any, so adding a whole lot of extra steps for nothing with all this
>>533339452>>533339484Im using the Google AI to gather info on stuff like Mark Levin and Finklethink, yes.And youre just doubling down on Finklethink strategy, which works fine for me lolYou've shown them all how it works for me.
>>533336929>Not if machines make enough physical goods for everyoneThey will not make enough physical goods for everyone, retarded faggot. The ones that will own the tech HATES you. They have been poisoning you from years, making your life a living hell for their personal gains. They will live in the "utopia" scenario, while you will be kept like a pet. The only reason i can think of why they will not just kill you, is because they want to harvest your organs, use your daughters and women as flesh lights, and use you to satisfy their sadism. Even if thats the case, 90% of the world population will just be cutoff.
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>>533339555He's not pretending, he's an operative, maybe even a jewjeetbot.And he's using Finklethink to a T.Every single post he has made is demonstrable of it. Speaks for itself lol
>>533332450Those in power don't share the wealth now. Us little guys are expected to give over a third of our lives and break our backs laboring away for less than a hundreth of their luxury. Why the fuck would anyone believe they'll start sharing even a fraction of amenities when the current system no longer needs us?Automation will take away our only leverage to push back against them. They will still keep all the profits of course. That's why they push towards cheap labor and work towards a world in which they have to pay for no labor.
>>533339580>can't think for himselfClassic communist, no wonder it always falls apart.>>533339555Sorry you're a wagie and trash bud, suicide is an option.
>>533339620>stops using chatgpt when he gets caughtLmao
>>533339690>>533339329Character Assassination: Relentless, personalized attacks—whether factual or not—designed to destroy an opponent's brand before they can define themselves.Engineered Polarization: Dividing the electorate into binary, "us vs. them" camps (e.g., "taxpayers" vs. "elites") to stoke grievance identities.Extreme Simplification: Distilling complex issues into repetitive, emotionally charged slogans (e.g., "Axe the tax") that focus on what voters are against.To a fucking T lolI think he might be a bot, or just a really lowcog jewjeet asset, because he hasn't adapted his script- as usual, every accusation from a Finklethink Zionist is projection - to cope with the exposure of his strat. He's just doubling down, which is what low cog assets with scripts and bots do.
>>533339620>he's an operativehe's effectively a parrot, reallythat what he's doing resembles that =/= him being cognizant of it or "taught" it by anything but some other shit tier wannabe "troll" round herehanlon's razoralso holy fuck the venom expressed in the "last word" reply bit, jesustell me how mad ->I<- totally am now
>>533339808Oh you're using it again?Either way it's pretty funny, you need a bot to think for you in a post about AI overlords.Leftists standards to a T: no integrity whatsoever.
wait, that's insulting to the intelligence of parrots, I take it back
>>533332450Its a fairy tale to keep his stock price bumped.
>>533332450>AI and robotics will lead to a future where humans will no longer need to work, everything will be free and everyone can live like a king. What's wrong with that?Nothing. It will reduce the need for immigration to 0.
>>533332528You can always spot a boomer when they call something communism.
>>533339851>he's effectively a parrot, reallyCould be, though I think Dead Internet is very real and most of the people.you think are idiots actually just aren't real people at all.>also holy fuck the venom expressed in the "last word" reply bit, jesus>tell me how mad ->I<- totally am nowYou're not wrong there.>something is happening>Jews declare victory>it continues to happen>Jews declare victory again>it's still happening>Jews declare it's over and they won>it continues>Jews yet again claim victory>the thing that's happening continues to happen>someone clarifies that the thing is continuing to haopen and thus, by definition, Jews have not "won">Jews put on theatrical exaggerated performative display, slinging emotive insulting language around while brazenly declaring their victory yet again>the thing that's happening continues happening>Jews declare victory once again>the thing is still happening>Jews say they won and anyone who says they didnt is [insult] [Jewish enemy group]>the event which is transpiring yet again continues to transpire>someone points out that it's still happening>jews accuse them of being [insult][outgroup] and emotionally conpromised
>>533332450He's a fucking idiot. And Ai is even stupider.It can't tell the difference between NOBL and NOBLE. Noble gets calls all the time for NOBL because Ai searches are fucking retarded. But sure, force feed it. Companies are going to realize how dumb it is and dump it soon. The hype is only there because Tech grifters want to drown us in untrue right wing propaganda they can profit off of in the short.
>>533339886>if you use AI to generate ANY text, all the text youve written is AIOver-Simplification + Character Assassination.To a fuckin T lol>>533340014Why are Jews and Jewraped goyslave shabbos goyim like this?You realize you cant employ chutzpah bloviation pressure against reality itself, right?It's wild.to see these heebs and their MIGA BoomBoom jewraped goyslave shabbos golems out here acting like they legit think a combo of obviously-seething performative Jewish/BoomBoom bloviation and posturing will change reality - though I really suspect it's just an attempt at public perception manipulation, demoralization fodder for opponents and remoralization attempt for the insanely-small MIGA BoomBoom contingent, the apparant existence of the latter of which I earnestly believe is requiring ever-increasing levels of dead-internet kosher-jeet botspam to cover for an ever-deindling contingent of goyslaves sufficiently hewraped to buy this kosher rhetorical bullshit.
>>533332450You don't really believe these guys do you? You're going to live like a slave with no job. You'll eat bugs, live in a pod, and be castrated, whille being completely unable to develop or grow, with no opportunities for upward mobility.
>>533332450Probably because most people know that there's no such thing as free money.
>>533340151>still thinks he can be taken seriously>still repeating the same jewish gibberishLeftists, what clowns
>>533340154UBI must happen. If you're not onboard then you're just allowing the bad guys to implement it the way you're talking about. We need to take this seriously and make sure it's done right. Without it we're a serf class, with it the wrong way we're a serf class. So we have to go with it the right way.
>>533340014>I think Dead Internet is very real and most of the people.you think are idiots actually just aren't real people at all.afaik actual bots are the only thing that can directly post here, LLM cannot on its own supposedly and requires a human gobetweenand actual bots can't interact with the content of your posts at all they just spit out whatever they were programmed to irrelevant to the content they're replying tothere's some very sad cases on altchans so I fully believe that tier are human sadly
>>533332528To be fair, all he knows is living off government subsidy.
>>533340308Yeah man, tons of leftists collect Nazi memorabilia and vote Republican.>>533338816And nobody knows who Mark Levin is lolYou sure got me.
>>533340384>I regurgitate every leftist talking point>no I'm republican and collect nazi stuffYou're trying too hard, I take it back - fire up that AI again.You probably shouldn't be straining that brain of yours.
>>533340353>LLM cannot on its own supposedly and requires a human gobetweenPressing X to Doubt>and actual bots can't interact with the content of your posts at all they just spit out whatever they were programmed to irrelevant to the content they're replying toBut LLM can, and combined as a multi-stage, even multi-LLM system... Im just saying, I don't think a lot of what youre seeing is genuine retards, so much as machines pretending to be retarded to try to convince others to be retarded too.But hey, I wonr deny I could be wrong on that and these are just legit Mark Levin viewing Ziocon faggots spewing the lines they've been taught to spew.
>>533340417You're not taking this seriously... You have a normalcy bias. Millions of jobs are already lost and ai and autonomous robots are still in the early stages.You can say you don't like it, but if you sweep the dirt under the rug the bad guys will dictate how ubi is implemented. We need good people who are serious to start making the terms right now.
>>533340320the ONLY way to do it right is if Bernie and AOC do it. Allowing Elon near it will mean you get nothing, you lose.
>>533340541>Im just saying, I don't think a lot of what youre seeing is genuine retards, so much as machines pretending to be retarded to try to convince others to be retarded too.this tier existed waaaaaaaay before LLM for a fact; that they could replicate that is an entirely different argument and ultimately unknowable>Pressing X to Doubtthat's what chatGPT told me, so taken with the grain of salt it should besomething about the antibot measures imageboards use hilariously prevented it from navigating the board, but bots could still be made to get around it
>>53334048 6 (no more Yous for you lol)>>I regurgitate every leftist talking pointWhere? When?I haven't said anything about my own views nor even any major talking points, beyond criticizing you for being a Finklethinking shabbos curtain.In fact, here is my first post>>533335405This is "regurgitate every leftist talking point"?Really?>Nobody knows who mark levin is>youre brow- oh shit you posted a hand Pic up youre a lef- oh shit it shows.ypure a registered republican in Pennsyvlania well youre a communi-You already did that one!>everyone is communists but me and Mark Levin! FILTHY GOYI- ER I MEAN WAGIES!
if I fed it screenshots, it could read those fine, but it couldn't read a page here from the linkalso granted that was like a year ago now
>>533340553We can have that discussion, but there needs to be more people on the far right who join in. Right now they just aren't taking this seriously enough.
UBI would eliminate two biggest things that have been killing humanity for centuries now, which are usury and crime.Both usury and crime are what keeps the rich at the top of the food chain so they will do anything in their power to keep the slaves chained, hence the back push against it.In the end it will come down to the biggest player like China, everyone will copy their model of governance by default and to keep up with them you will have no choice but to adapt.Slaves will do anything in their power to stay with the system they are most familiar with, even if the system is the one that bleeds them dry daily.Once you approach a chained slave trying to free them, they will fight back with a deadly force, hence why they need to be put down like rabid dogs with various means like processed foods, fluoride, vaccines, chemtrails, ticks injected with bioweapons.This has all happened before, it's all a cycle.Chained slaves are the most dangerous this is why we NEED the depopulation agenda.
>>533340553>the ONLY way to do it right is if (((Bernie))) and (((AOC))) do it. Allowing (((Elon))) near it will mean you get nothing, you lose.just wanted to see if it looked as dumb as it came off>our only hope against jews is jews
>>533340876Yeah, you could well be right, the "I'll pretend to be retarded and then laugh at you when you take me seriously and call me a retard" ironynigger faggots have def been a thing for a long time, and most of them did seem to slide into the kosher faux-nat vibe shift Ziocon shit of late ala the NRX queers.It's just so ubiquitous and aggressive, I struggle to believe these people are either that functionally active at this point or that common.I am not familiar with thr technologic infrastructural framework and it's limitations, but consider we know 8200 is on the job - and with them, the most advanced methods for this kind of jewish trickery that exists on the planet - I wouldn't say anything is beyond possibility in this context.
>>533341030the jews bad narrative is a jewish psyop, sorry to tell you
>>533332495They have some really nice clothes there, but not good jeans.
>>533341030>>our only hope against jews is jewsMy opposition to Christianity, as just another form of philosemitism, in a nutshell.
>>533341088>most of them did seem to slide into the kosher faux-nat vibe shift Ziocon shit of late ala the NRX queers.whatever the dumbest and or most edgelord side of any given discussion is, that's where they areno surprise they're ubiquitously miggers now>>533341151but that does not discount that jews, are, in fact, bad
>>533341151>the jews bad narrative is a jewish psyo>jews want you to hate jews>that way if you hate jews they can take actions against people who hate jews>>but if I didnt hate jews couldn't they take those same actions anyway and I wouldn't care because I love jews?>Shut up jew!Hmm.
it's funny cause they'd be hugely valuable as some debil's abdicate thing but only like 1% of the memeflaggots are the only real competent ones at it, what the rest do is completely counterproductive to such things
>>533341562Pretty much. I mean, when you saw it once in awhile, it had some teeth, but now?It's like every thread has a half dozen of those fuckwits in their shitting all over everything and Finklethinking everywhere, and it seems to be worse the more relevant the issue is to Jewish interests - you make a thread about esoteric bullshit, they're nowhere to be found, but make a thread attacking a sacred cow of the Judaic power structure and in they swarm. It's the sheer volume and apparently ubiquity, coupled with positions that are invariably Judaic, that makes me suspect something beyond just a gaggle of fuckwits.
>>533340943>ubiquitous would end usuryHoly shit no it wouldnt, are you insane?Do you know what lowcog low income people do in droves? Payday loans from check cashing kiosks.UBI won't end usury, it will make usury ubiquitous, potentially even requisite, as the income provided will invariably be less than is needed to genuinely survive, driving people right into the hands of the financiers and ensuring they have a steady income stream to draw upon.UBI is legit the Jewish financial class trying to create a paradigm where you can be nearly broke, living check to check, totally reliant on the state, and still paying into a high-interest loan somehow, which you will NEVER escape.It's state sanctioned debt slavery.
>>533340486>>533341973How's that for regurgitating left wing talking points you fucking kosher scab lol
>>533342080>that's schizo talk though, surelyYes, surely, surely...>embrace ancient powers of chaos and darkness to own the libs>what could go wrong
>>533341973You just described something that is already happening in real time right now as we speak, you fucking absolute retard.