It just kinda clicked for me that I was raised Catholic but don't have an answer to this question: Why does Satan still exist?The story of Satan, as I recall, was that Lucifer was a creation and servant - the greatest, I believe - of Yahweh, who became frustrated by Yahweh dumping all its affection upon another creation/servant class, humans.So he led a rebellion, and lost, and was cast down to Earth with his fellow rebels.... My question is: Why?Why not destroy him?Even the Bible claims he never seeks retribution or to make good, he is only evil and must be faced and viewed in such terms... So why does he exist?1. Yahweh cant destroy himThen Yahweh isn't omnipotent and isn't God.2. Yahweh won't destroy himThen Yahweh doesn't love us, for he allows our well-being to be at risk under the constant temptations of one of Yahweh's nominally-defeated minions which he could destroy at any time.3. The whole story is bullshitThis seems the most sane interpretation.Am I wrong?Im not trying to argue a position at this point, as I just don't understand what is even being claimed yet, but from what I can gather this whole pholosemitic thing - Judaism, Christianity, Islam - is just... nonsense.>youre just a subversive Jew doing anti-Christian shilling!Im not, I swear! I was raised Catholic and though I wasnt confirmed, I did receive the eucharist and went to CCD from childhood to my teen years. I just want to understand!
Fag using 2013 r/atheism talking points in 2026
>>533343751>Why does Satan still exist?you really don't want the lake of fire turned on before it's time, anon.you'd go in there too.
>>533343751Everyone needs an enemy.An adversary makes you strive to be better.It forces you.
>>533343751>2. Yahweh won't destroy himthis is already done.christ defeated satan.man is the evil one now.the devil no longer has power over man.you gotta learn this shit.
>>533343751obviously not catholic if you're asking such a braindead stupid question
>>533344011Checking this knower. God Bless Anon
>>533344011Satan is the demiurge, and hell is his domain/the material world
>>533343946Why is there a lake of fire?>>533343986But the enemy here isn't a good one, it's like all true divinity, made the enemy of a faux-diviniry, to which Christians bow and beg.>>533344011>this is already done.>christ defeated satan.Then hell no longer exists and nobody can end up there through his temptations?Nah, sounds like schizoid nonsense.>he is defeated>but he still has powerAla>Iran is beaten>but they can still close the strait>>533344102Not an answer, just a seethe.
>>533344329that used to be correct.now the world belongs to man as christ defeated satan and reconciled us to God.welcome to the fold.
>>533344392go larp elsewhere, kike
>>533344392>Why is there a lake of fire?energy can't be destroyed so it has to be purified.if you want to know why not yet, ask God.>Then hell no longer exists and nobody can end up there through his temptations?hell has been emptied since christ descended into it and emptied it.you'd know this if you were catholic.it's a part of the nicene creed.
>>533344329What if Yahweh is the demiurge tho?Like, just as a theoretical question, what does it mean for Christians if Yahweh is, in fact, the demiurge, and Satan is, contrary to bring a "fallen servant", the True Divinity, Sol the Unconquered Sun, or something?Like, if Yahweh is real and its all true then I'll probably boil in fire forever, ok, ive considered that.What if its not though? What does that mean?
>>533344392>>he is defeated>>but he still has poweryou didn't read the full e-mail.specifically the highlighted part in pic related.
>>533344515That's not an answer.I worship Sol Invictus, not Yahweh.So, Im not a Jew, nor a fedora, Im more of a Heretic I guess lol>hurr durr larp!I mean ok, enjoy your blood and flesh snack lol
>>533344530that wouldn't be possible because you wouldn't recite YHWH every time you breathe if it were.
>>533343751Because you can only learn to love good and overcome evil in a world that's subject to evil. Virtue cannot exist without the option of choosing vice.
>>533344620>I worship Sol Invictuswhy would you worship something created instead of the Creator .seems silly.
>>533344620you're arguing from a point of dualism. christians are monotheists. once you ditch the jewish/protestant dualism the answers to your question are painfully obvious.
>>533344522>energy can't be destroyed so it has to be purified.Thats retarded and implies God is bound by the laws of physics.>if you want to know why not yet, ask God.I did, he never answered.>hell has been emptied since christ descended into it and emptied it.OK so there is nobody in hell right now, yes or no?>you'd know this if you were catholic.>it's a part of the nicene creed.I was raised Catholic, but Yahweh never spoke to me, nor really appealed to me desu - I don't like Jews, never did, and so the idea that the one True God sele Ted the Habiru never made any sense, on top of 9/10ths of the Old Testament being so open to interpretation, and so reliant on permissive interpretations not to be retarded, that it just didnt hit.
According to Christians, Satan (Lucifer) rules the earth but that's okay since their theology says that in the end (when?), Yahweh the volcano god, wins.
>>533343751>catharsI'm guessing Gnostics fall under this umbrella of jewish, too?
>>533344697I don't know what youre trying to say.>>533344726Evil could exist ist without a fallen angel tempting man to eternal torment tho, right?>>533344739The created is an exemplifcation of the Creator, but Truth is beyond mortal conception imho and places no value upon human worship, thus we can only know it's faces and it has many.
>>533344530I’m pretty sure Yaweh, the Old Testament god, is the demiurge. It explains why he forbid Adam from “eating from the tree of knowledge”, or in other words, discovering that the demiurge was not the true god
>>533344760>Thats retarded and implies God is bound by the laws of physics.God IS the laws of physics. As well as every other law, because he is Law itself. He's bound to be coherent, because incoherency is non-existence. Saying that he's not bound by the laws of physics is like saying that he's not bound by his own existence. He can't stop being good for the same reason he can't stop existing.
>>533343751he doesn't exist and this is all made up hogwash
>>533344741Well I argue from my own position, not somebody elses, yes.You by definition espouse someone else's position, they even gave you a manual lolProblem is, they were Jews and pedophiles, by the numbers. Or at VERY LEAST gross desert bandit Habiru, if you want to play the "ancient jews were/nt real jews!" Or whatever.
>>533344760>Thats retarded and implies God is bound by the laws of physicsyou're implying that the lake of fire is physical instead of spiritual.think hard about it.>I did, he never answered.which is why He drove you to post here and get answered.try and keep up.>OK so there is nobody in hell right now, yes or no?nobody in hell.you have to learn these things."hell" translates to "grave".there are no spirits in graves.
>>533343751>i'm not a jew doing anti-christian shillingclearly you arebut let's address your execution deserving blasphemy one at a time>christcuckthis implies that christians are cucks who do not fight backSt. Constantine had a vision, where god tells him to conquer in the name of jesus, and he was militarily successfulpagan revivals were attempted time and again, and time again they were militarily crushed by christian soldiersit was the christians who fought the french and russians during their revolutionsit was the christians who enslaved niggers, and on and on and before you say "that's against the bible">"Then some soldiers asked him, “And what should we do?” He replied, “Don’t extort money and don’t accuse people falsely— be content with your pay.”"- Luke 3:14they were not told to resign or turn in their swords/guns. they were not told to turn the other cheek on the criminals>"For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil."- Romans 13:4christian cops are to protect other christians.both from those who would wrong them physically:>"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea."- Matthew 18:6as well as spiritually:>"When He had made a whip of cords, He drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured out the changers’ money and overturned the tables."- John 2:15>"Praise the LORD, who is my rock. He trains my hands for war and gives my fingers skill for battle."- Psalm 144:1
OP is such a painful ESL jeet it's crazy. Why the fuck are these H1Bniggers in Dallas spamming this board with pagangshit so much, besides the fact hinpooism is paganism.
>>533343751>christianity branched out of judaismthe earliest biblical manuscripts are in greek- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint#Manuscriptsand the talmud was written between the years 200 and 600 AD. the kabbalah was written between 600 and 1200 ADthat is to say, after christianity
>>533344881>Truth is beyond mortal conception imho2+2=4now the fuck you gon' do?that's one.2. if you worship the creation instead of the Creator then you are just admitting that you're too stupid to access your spiritual self.possibly out of fear of what you will find.possibly out of having obstinate defiant disorder.
>>533343751>philosemiticnot only are kikes rebuked in the bible time and again>"[Jesus said to the jews:] You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it."- John 8:44>"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."- Revelation 3:9but historically they have been persecuted by christians, such as having their books burned, being expelled, etc
>>533344881>Evil could exist ist without a fallen angel tempting man to eternal torment tho, right?Then that evil would just be called Satan, at which point you'd be asking this question again. Satan is not an entity, a being or a power, because evil cannot be an entity, a being or a power. Evil is a privation. So what's really taking place is that Satan is merely a name for our temptations. The desert fathers were clear in stating that Satan is our impressions, not a being in his own right.
>>533344837That's what I mean, it seems nonsensical, and when you point it out, they either revert to circular reasoning or accuse you of heresy lol>>533344875Thats what Im trying to find out! >>533344530>>533344889I was gonna say, that kinda checks out to me.I've never been big into gnosticism, but the most from what I gathered was>ok there IS a God, but Yahwhe ain't it, he's a sneaky trickster who manipulates you because he hates youAnd then I see how Jews - as Habiru in Egytp many millennia ago, as Sanhedrin in Jerusalem a few millennia ago, as rabbinical jews today - behave, how it seems to infect Gentiles who embrace it such that they start behaving JUST LIKE JEWS, and its like... Yeah. That checks out.
>>533345006Says your mom about you
>>533343751this is way too much effort and energy to be spending on cuckstianity, to the point where they're actually winning if you do this short of shit. simply proclaim that christianity is both foreign and jewish and laugh at it, no need to engage with christshits in any good faith
>>533345116Doesn't change the fact the OT is part of Judaism and Christianity both.
>>533344889Yahweh is literally an alien warlord from outer space, not a supernatudal divinity of any sort.Crossniggers worship an actual alien scumbag. Hilarious.
>>533344963>God cant do this because rules>>doesn't he set the rules?>he is the rulesSo he can adjust such things at any time, he's all powerful.Again, its just not making any sense.>>533345006Also possibly true, but I find that dubious.>>533345030>you're implying that the lake of fire is physical instead of spiritual.So its like conceptual fire? So Yahweh cant even defeat concepts?>which is why He drove you to post here and get answered.>try and keep up.But your answers are just kinda retarded drivel and employ circular logic pretty much nonstop.>nobody in hell.Really? Because Im pretty sure most Christians wouldn't agree with that.Let's ask.>there are no spirits in graves.There are bodies. So youre saying SOMETHING is in hell being tormented but because you don't consider them "human spirits" anymore youre saying it empty?
>>533343751He exists because you believe in him. you made him real. have you any idea the power you have? you can make gods, demons, anythingffs
ATTENTION ALL CHRISTKEKS I used inflammatory wording to get your attention, I genuinely apologize.Yes or no: Are there hjman souls, or anything that ever was human souls or in any way related thereto, in Hell right now?>>533345030Wait, who made the lake of fire and why?
>Satan tempts people to sinWrong, Jesus never said thisThere are no demons or devils, there is only you, God, and the choices you make. Make the right choice.
>>533345210this is incorrect.satan was the part of God He ejected from Himself that He knew was fucking worthless and only cause Him problems by distracting His focus of Creating.before everything else, only God existed.the word "satan" means "adversary".literally the part of Himself he needed removed, so He removed it.He placed that nigger here to see how we would handle such a faggot.we sucked at it, so He sent christ to reconcile us to Him.in doing so we are now capable of sin without a devil.we're far more evil than the devil ever was.the devil would just distract God, we actively try to kill Him.
>>533345421>So its like conceptual fire? So Yahweh cant even defeat concepts?spirit it not a concept, anon.it is a very real thing.i'm sorry you are blocked from yours.possibly due to obstinate defiant disorder.
>>533345421>So he can adjust such things at any time, he's all powerful.He's all good, and good is the only power. He cannot adjust things to be worse, because evil is not a power, evil is the lack of power. God choosing to be evil would be the same as God ceasing to exist, in which case everything would cease to exist. God is incapable of evil because he's goodness itself. It makes perfect sense, you just have to understand that goodness and existence are the same principle. The world we live in is already the best of all possible worlds. It is 100% good at all times, with no deviation. If it ever seems not good to you, it's because you're looking at the world through your own biases and appetites and not looking at it objectively. To maintain objectivity, it helps to understand that the purpose of this world is education. Everything that happens to you is a lesson that you need, thus is good for you. If you wail and cry and reject that lesson, it's no different than a child wailing and crying and rejecting his medicine. It doesn't mean the parents are bad, it means the kid is bad.
>>533345515>who made the lake of fire and why?God.purification of energy.
>>533345215It's impossible to debate Christians, it's a waste of energy, they argue in bad faith ten out of ten times. In this they are not unlike their Semite cousins.
>>533345515>Yes or no: Are there hjman souls, or anything that ever was human souls or in any way related thereto, in Hell right now?no.souls do not go to hell since the sacrifice of christ.
>>533345045>clearly you areNo, but I know that's a comforting thought. I get it.>this implies that christians are cucks who do not fight backIn the modern era, yes. And now youre going to cite some shit from centuries ago.>St. Constantine Called it.>pagan revivals were attempted time and again, and time again they were militarily crushed by christian soldiersPaid by whom?>it was the christians who fought the french and russians during their revolutionsAnd they lost, brutally.>it was the christians who enslaved niggers, and on and onEw, slavery?>and before you say "that's against the bible"But its not, in theory - maybe the New Test, but even that seems to allow for slavery.>give unto CaesarAlso cucked, fyi lolYou have a lot to say, like christcucks, about Christianity of the past.But we have reached the peak of the philosemitic mountain - you look behind, opening what was, but I point out it brought you to where you are now.You will deny this, claim this is not the peak of philosemitic christcuckoldry, rather a diversion from the "True Scotsman" of Christianity, and I just don't take such claims very seriously.
>>533343751The guy on the right worships a god who turned into a mare to get impregnated by a horse
>>533345515once again, you are confusing christians with jews and protestants
>>533345053Nothing g you said here amounted to anything but attempted consensus forming with strangers.Unless.you guys know each other.
>>533345116Who cares about the Talmud?Im not into this "ancient habiru weren't jews guis its only the Talmud that made it bad!".I've read the stories of Moses and Esther my guy, the ancient Habiru were awful trash, the Talmud was their cope for their supremacist religion getting BTFOd by Cyrus.Most of the christucks I see come across as Talmudic Chrisitans, in that they too are making up after the fact cope justifications ofr the Judaic dogma being both historically/spieitually false/wrong and Judaic.
>>533343751The Lucifer story never appears in the Bible. Satan just means any enemy of God. "Satan" with no context in English is usually synonymous with "The Devil", i.e. the Lucifer figure, who could be real but is more than likely just an artificat of polytheism, much like saints, angels, and demons.
>>533343886Turns out atheism was right about everything, and it lost a meme war becuase of fatfucks and fedoras. It's weird how anytime a massive movement is made to damage jewish systems in come in the dysgenic freaks with weird fashion sense
>>533345169You think mathematics is... Truth?Hmm. Interesting.
>>533345191>not only are kikes rebuked in the bible time and againBut they were Chosen to begin with.You cannot rebuke what you have no selected, such as to be able to rebuke it.Explain.Why did Yahwhe choose the Habiru?
>>533345210>that evil would be calledIt'd just be called evil though.Satan is a specific thing. Unkess.ypure going full hyperinterpretive shabbos mode, but I just don't care about that and don't find it convincing.
>>533344889>gnostic slop>literally fanfiction written hundreds of years after jesus diedlol
>>533343751now to address your actual question>satan was frustrated by Yahweh dumping all its affection upon another creation/servant class, humansthis comes from islamthere are different interpretations for what the devil is up tobut it's generally accepted that satan wants to be equal to god>"How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; ‘I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’"- Isaiah 14:12-14>why does he existbecause god allows for free will>why not destroy himto test us>god doesn't love ushe does, the question is do we love himthe book of job in particular talk about this: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%201&version=NKJV>the whole story is bullshityou can see clearly that nations and people that follow christianity have prospered / been blessed, and those that don't have failed / been cursedso even from an atheist point of view, those things associated with the devil (faggorty / lust, gluttony, greed, etc) are bad
>>533345312I just want to understand the position desu senpai.And I haven't figured anything out by talking to these Vhristians, even they don't seem ot have a good grasp on the ethos- its most vague subjective statements presented as objective clear fact, baseless accusation in derision of heretics and circular reasoning.WHY DID YAHWEH CHOOSE THE HABIRU?WHY DID YAHWEH ALLOW SATAN TO EXIST AFTER THE FALL?WHY DID YAHWEH CHOOSE THE HABIRU?Anyone?
>>5333459752=2=4 is an objectively true statement.math expresses truth.there is nothing you can do about it.math also proves God.
>>533344329trinity in the old testament - https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-A- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CBh8lmgecs
>>533345436I believe in Truth, and don't see much Truth in the Judaic presentation of Yahweh in the Old nor New Testaments.
>>533345604So who did Jesus speak with in the desert when he was tempted?A delusion?Or was that Yahweh masturbating?
>>533345215Well, my interpretation of it is like this:>a Christ is someone who realizes that the true God and kingdom of heaven are within themselves, and that the world is an evil illusion created by a false old-testament style creator>Jesus existed and was indeed a Christ and tried to subvert the old teachings with the truth>he wasn't the only Christ to ever exist, just one of the most popular ones>he was killed for this, and his message became subverted and distorted over time; the religion of Chrisianity is a jewish product with the -ianity suffix negating its reference to Christhood>Cathars and Gnostics realized the true meaning of Jesus's teachings>they were also killed for this>Gnosticism is on the rise, Christhood Consciousness is what the "second coming of Christ" implies>migaboomers are still waiting for the return of a man, jewish archons are seething at the mere mention, and "Christ"-iancucks are poisoning the message, most of them likely unknowingly This dream will end when we find the will to dispense with our attachment to this world and the courage to take the step into transcending it. I wasn't able to do that, so I remain here with the knowledge I've gained from my spiritual experiences... and let me tell you, it's hellish, or quite literally Hell. Nevertheless, I'm making my peace with it and now using my inner-God powers to manifest the reality I want and bend this one to its will. I believe that's why we saw jews exposed and israel under attack; I (and I'm sure many of you) manifested this directly. I decided to take a break from that, though, because I wasn't sure if I was doing the right thing, and it seems to have settled down.This is a spiritual battle, and the battle is within; between ourselves and the duality of our beliefs and ideas. I'm trying to give heed to both sides of the coin, and hopefully see the soul and the ego, light and darkness, good and evil, coexist in harmony. The only alternative is oblivion.
>>533345629>God had to remove part of himselfThis is sounding incredibly vague and interpretive, like something almost no Christians except you actually beljeve and which makes little to no rational sense.
>>533345975>You think mathematics is... Truth?It would have to be. Math is not the product of the human mind, it exists independently. Two cultures entirely separate from each other on opposite sides of the globe will always come up with the same understanding of mathematics, because math is derived from first principles. That means that math exists, as a true and eternal entity, prior and superior to humanity. Math, logic, physics, morality and anything else that's objective is merely one aspect of Truth, and Truth is synonymous with the principle of existence.
>>533345685Spirit is a concoe though Anon. Words have meanings.You never answer, you just spewed vague interpretive circular logic.Who made the lake and why?If Yahweh, why can he not unmake it?It doesn't follow.
>>533345707The first two lines of your post were just full blown vague and utterly subjective pseudo-moral word vomit bud, Im sorry.
>>533346083>It'd just be called evil thoughYes, and that evil would be personified and characterized because that's how parables and allegories are made. Buddhism does the same thing with Mara. Satan is just Mara. It's a mask or identity whose essence is really our own temptations and desires.
>>533345728So youre saying its requisite that human souls- or the remains thereof - be tormented for all eternity to..."purify energy"?Bruh.You want some colloidal silver with that vague bulkshit? Lol
>>533345792Yes or no: Are there hjman souls, or anything that ever was human souls or in any way related thereto, in Hell right now?Wait, who made the lake of fire and why?>>533345790Cool, magic is neat and Loki was always a mischling weirdo lol
>>533346425No, that entire post is coherent and logically grounded. All of the greatest minds in human history stated exactly what I wrote down there. It comes from Aristotle, Plato and Plotinus. Why aren't you willing to engage with those ideas in good faith?
>>533344392>Why is there a lake of fire?god is the source of all goodpeople who reject god logically end up in a place that sucks ass >Then hell no longer exists and nobody can end up there through his temptations?we read in revelation that people and the fallen angels will end up in hellchrist opened the way for our salvation, so in that sense he did defeat the devil>>533344522what christ emptied was abraham's bosomit's only a part of hell, where people like lazarus (and abraham) were. but the rich man (who was the boss of lazarus), or the fallen angels (who were punished for race mixing with human women) were not saved.just as only one of the thieves crucified with jesus were saved, but not the other
>>533345951Oh so it actually IS just vague interpretive bullshit?
>>533346165Who cares when the rabbi Yeshua died?What does that have to do with gnosticism?
>>533344620>i worship the sunthen you are indeed worshiping the devil reminder that the helenes called their own gods demons- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimonand claimed they rape them- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mythological_rape_victims
>>533346683It's allegorical. No true Christian has ever said otherwise.
>>533346730>why does when something is written matter in terms of historyYou're either a mormon or a kike.
>>533344760>on top of 9/10ths of the Old Testament being so open to interpretationthen why don't you quote your own scriptures - https://sacred-texts.com/index.htm
>>533346168>but it's generally accepted that satan wants to be equal to godBut its not, so it loses, right?So why not destroy it?>because free willGod allows free will then punishes the result. Seems like bad parenting.>I'm going to leave you locked in this house with a sadistic pedophile rapist who likes to manipulate, psychologically torture children, and oh BTW he's got a massive hatboner for me specifically>this is a test>I love youLemme tell ya, as someone who grew up with a mother who was a narcissistic sociopath, this sounds very familiar and this is a guaranteed call to child services my guy.
>>533346776This is why I'm glad those leftshitters have burned down churches. Christcucks are the enemy of Europe.
>>533346888You kosher shabbos retards burned it all and called it heresy lolYou literally cut down 1,000 year old trees just to prove how powerful your Jewish deity was, then turn around and say shit like>the reason everythi g is horrible and he doesnt stop it is he's tormenting you to test you goy, out of love
>>533346892Satan is necessary for true free will to exist.This leads to a greater good than if God were to just annihilate Satan
>>533346783>No True ScottyExpect that one lol
>>533343751The narrative of satan becoming frustrated by God's love towards humans is not found in the Bible. It may very well be that satan rebelled against God before Adam was created, though it isn't clear. Neither does this have any significance to the question of satan's existence, as the Bible mentions that his primary and perhaps even only purpose was to serve his master (God).
>>533346218>using subjective symbols and concepts totally derivative from subjective moetal conception >objective truthOooof.
>>533345392islam claims it affirms the OT and the NTi guess muslims are christians by your logic
>>533345312>just lie and declare yourself the winner, that'll show them
>>533343751>jewish
Ngl, I feel bad creating these kinds of arguments.Ill let this thread go, I just wanted to try to understand better - and I guess I do, in that I realize once again there is simply no way for the sane to understand the insane, no way for the Sol-born Human to understand the Judaic Trick.
>>533347144I genuinely do love you guys and wish you the best. Your my cousins. And I love you, even when its hard.
>>533347144This is what's called a bad faith argument. Shame on you.
>>533347224It was made in good faith, but all the good faith in the world won't make a discussion trying to under the ethos and theory of mind of a Skaven - or their Human slave - any less difficult.
>>533347001That's not a No True Scotsman. The "scotsman" part is functional in that fallacy, it can only apply to things that are incidental, not to traits that are essential. Which is to say, "no true irishman doesn't like whiskey" is a fallacy, but "no true mathematician would be unable to add 2 and 2" is not a fallacy. A mathematician is literally defined by his ability to do math, meaning anyone who can't do math is not a mathematician. Likewise, a Christian is defined as somebody who follows Christ, and somebody who fails to follow Christ is not and never was a Christian, he merely falsely claimed to be a Christian.
>>533343751It’s quite simple. YHVH creates everything. We are all created as well in our heavenly spirit bodies. Suddenly Lucifer wants to be God. Lucifer gets a third of the angels to follow him. He loses and gets thrown to earth. In order for YHVH to know who will follow Him, or now named, satan….YHVH incarnated us and gives us free will and a set of rules to follow. That’s it
>>533347288>n-nuh uh!Ok bud.I love you. Stay strong. Seek Truth.
>>533343751>Why does Satan still exist?He doesn't, neither does God or Jesus
>>533347144You were proven wrong in this thread, then merely pretended not to understand your own loss.Imagine actually saying that math is subjective, then calling other people insane. Very dishonest.
>>533347317>Thats itI don't believe it is, but I can no more chamge.ypur mind in this regard than you can change mine it seems.I still love you though. Stay strong. Seek Truth.
>>533347286Ad hominem and ignorance. Go post your garbage on reddit.
>>533347396>provenOk bud. I think that's incredibly bad faith and disingeuous on your behalf, but I,still love.you.
>>533343751christianity is doomed because it's no longer majority white, that's actually the best argument against it
>>533347432Cope and seethe. I still love you though.
>>533347349This is basic critical thinking 101 stuff. Look it up. By your incorrect definition, me saying "anyone who hasn't been to medical school is not a true doctor" is a no true scotsman fallacy. Obviously that makes no sense, and your willingness to be dishonest here proves that you're nothing but a shill.
>>533347512I think it was doomed from the start, at least from the perspective of what the average /pol/lack christcuck believes its intent is/was.
>>533345515>are there any human souls in hell right nowthere are multiple levels of hellfirst is "abraham's bosom", this is where the good people went before christ, they waited there for the crucifixion, and were taken from there to heaven.then it's hades / sheol, this is where bad people went before and after christ, and are still waiting for the last day, when they will be thrown in the lake of fire.then it's tartarus, this is basically the lowest part of hell, it's where the race mixing angels were chained to await the last day, when they will be thrown into the lake of fire.finally it's the lake of fire / gehennah, this is where all those who are enemies of god will be tossed at the last day.>"Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire."- Revelation 20:14so in a sense, yes, there are. but not necessarily what you might think of when you think of hell.
>>533347549You're just crashing out now bud.Calm down. Drink some water.I love you.
>>533347599>there are multiple levels of hell>first is "abraham's bosom", this is where the good people went before christ, they waited there for the crucifixion, and were taken from there to heaven.>then it's hades / sheol, this is where bad people went before and after christ, and are still waiting for the last day, when they will be thrown in the lake of fire.>then it's tartarus, this is basically the lowest part of hell, it's where the race mixing angels were chained to await the last day, when they will be thrown into the lake of fire.>finally it's the lake of fire / gehennah, this is where all those who are enemies of god will be tossed at the last day.I never read Manual of the Planes.What edition is that?
>>533347599>there are multiple levels of hellHow many exactly and what biblical scripture goes over this?
>>533347124>>just lie and declare yourself the winner, that'll show themThe ironic comedy is that this EXACT paradigm is how 90% of christcuck related threads end: Discussion leads into the christcucks begin screeching and reeeing, posting ancient Marvel comic book quotes and making grand declarations as the nature, character or future of their opposition, and then everyone who isnt one of them realizes "of christ I'm talking to a gaggle of low-cog jewraped goyslave extremists living in a flase reality", throw up their hands and walk away, while the christcucks go about the >just lie and declare yourself the winner, that'll show themShit until even they get bored.
>>533346165But enough about the bible and the Quran
Three million years ago, the Anunnaki, along with the Norse, Roman, Hindu, and Chinese gods—all of whom are actually aliens—arrived on Earth and settled in Greenland. From there, a ship containing a million alien gods was sealed in greenland, gods who will soon awaken. All conflict on Earth is the fault of the Chinese and Babylonian pantheon. Abrahamic religions are a creation of the Babylonian and Chinese gods. The Chinese and Babylonian gods were corrupted by the Hindu gods. All the suffering that humans have endured here has the ultimate goal of making us evolve into a magical-biological weapon race that will exterminate all the Adharmic races of Infinity. Black people are the native race of Earth; white people pajeet and Asians are clones of gods.
>>533347124Oh also, since we doing Hitler stuff...Tell me about the speech "Why We Are AntiSemites", I believe it was from 34, very famous.Tell us about what Hitler has to say about Abraham, and tell us who Abraham was.Tell us about the girl sellers.Ill wait.
>>533344889Why would the demiurge create a fruit that would allow Adam to know the identity of the demiurge in the first place?
>>533345770>centuries agoto this day there are christian soldiers, and they are better than the pagan ones>i don't take the truth seriouslyclearly
>>533347920In Aztec myth there was also a race of giants, called the Quinametzin, that they had to hunt down because they were arrogant, and had “abominable customs”. The Olmecs had to pay tribute to them. They were apparently so bad that Quetzalcoatl had to smite them with a rain of fire. But they are also credited with building Teotihuacan, home Mesoamerica’s largest pyramid
>>533348107We can trace the fate of Jewry from the earliest times. It is not necessary that everything written in the Bible should be true word for word, but on the whole it gives at least an impression of the history of Jewry as the Jews wrote it for themselves, and there we see that the Jew writes this work quite innocuously. It does not seem outrageous to him when he describes how, by cunning and deceit, he penetrated and contaminated race after race, was always expelled, and, without being offended, sought out another. How he pimped and haggled when it came to his ideals, ready to sacrifice even his family. We know that a gentleman recently stayed here, Sigmund Fraenkel, who most recently wrote that it would be quite unfair to accuse the Jews of having a materialistic spirit, for just look at the sunny, intimate family life of the Jew. This intimate family life did not for a moment prevent their own patriarch Abraham from immediately pimping his own wife to the pharaoh of Egypt, just so that he could do business. And this is their patriarch and progenitor. And just as the Lord Papa was, so the sons have become, and have never spurned these deals, and you can be sure that they do not spurn them even today. Anyone who was a soldier will remember that in Galicia or Poland he could see these Abrahams standing at every railway station.
>>533345946>Who cares about the Talmud?those who are called jews, but are the synagogue of satan
>>533343751https://youtu.be/-Fp7w3Jy3yk
>>533345955>atheism was right about everything
>>533347918Rabbi spotted lmao. You kikes can't help yourselves. How does it feel that you've exposed yourself and israel to the entire world as evil?
>>533348400>christian soldiers are betterEuropean soldiers are better desu senpai, but just like the pagans, by christcuck hands might they pass from this Earth.God's willing the Judaic nightmare may one day end.>the truthYou don't have it. You embrace falsehood. But I still love.you.
>>533346023>"The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ."- Galatians 3:16
>>533343751>>533343886Your Christian religion is a load of absolute horseshit. The 1500 year sunk cost of your ancestors is a big deal, but we have to find God and make our own religions like everyone did in the past. A middle easterner from 2000 years ago will not reappear one day and bring the dead back to life.There might be problems with other religions, but they don't believe anything as retarded as that. If you want an alternative, you're much better off worshipping Nahida.
>>533348504Amen sister
this whore should be punished
>>533343751Because religion is a load
>>533348510Chill out nigger. I just wasn’t sure if the Torah was written hundreds of years after the death of Jesus. I condemn the Talmud and the terror state of Israel
All religion is mental illness.There, now you can get on with your life.
>>533348107>>533348459And if the theatre has thus become a breeding ground for vice and shamelessness, then this applies a thousand times more to that new invention which perhaps originated from a flash of inspiration, and which the Jew immediately understood how to transform into the dirtiest business imaginable: the cinema. At first one could only attach the greatest hopes to these ingenious inventions. The easy transmission of profound knowledge to a whole people and the whole world. And what has become of it? The vehicle for the greatest filth and shamelessness. And so the Jew works on. For him there is no spiritual feeling, and just as his forefather Abraham pimped out his wife, so he finds nothing unusual about pimping girls today, and we can find him everywhere, in North America as well as in Germany, Austria-Hungary and throughout the Orient, throughout the centuries as the trafficker of human flesh, and it cannot be denied—even the greatest defender of the Jews cannot deny — that almost all these traffickers in girls are Hebrews. Here one can find truly horrific material. To Germanic sensibilities, there should be only one punishment here: death. For people who play fast and loose with this, treating as a business, as a commodity, that which for millions of other means the greatest happiness or the greatest misery, the penalty would be death. To the Jews, however, love is nothing but a business with which they earn money; they are ready at any time to tear apart the happiness of any marriage as long as they can get their thirty pieces of silver out of it.
>>533346892>God allows free will then punishes the result. Seems like bad parenting.so stomp your feet and pee your pants over it.also, you've yet to explain evil from a pagan point of view, chapter and verse
>>533343751I've always found it amusing that Lucifer, a Greco-Roman sun god who is the son of Jupiter (Zeus) and Aurora, is the ultimate enemy of the Semitic god Yahweh, and that Yahweh himself is a syncretized/fused version of Baal, El, Ashur (Assyrian god), Ahura Mazda, and Saturn.Indo-European religion is always solar religion, while Semitic religion is cubic, that representing Saturn in its most malevolent state.The cross of Jesus is a cube, and Satan doesn't exist.
>>533346909>pagan larper fanboying over commie jews, mad that demon worship was crushed in europemany such cases
>>533347124>>533348746>Hitler literally equating Abraham to a Jewish pimp selling Polish girls at train stations during WW1Abraham is a foundational figure in Christianity, often referred to as the "Father of the Faith". While he is the biological ancestor of the Jewish people, Christians view him as their spiritual ancestor because he exemplifies a relationship with God based on faith rather than the Mosaic Law>if you were to rank christian fogures by number according to level of importance in the various christian dogmas, with #1 being the most inportant, where would abraham fall?Ranking figures in Christian dogma depends on whether you are looking at the hierarchy of worship versus the hierarchy of history.In terms of importance to the theological structure and the "lineage of faith," Abraham is universally a top-tier figure. Here is a generally accepted ranking of importance within mainstream Christian dogma:#1 Jesus Christ: The center of the entire faith; viewed as God incarnate and the Savior.#2 God the Father / The Holy Spirit: (Shared #1 in the Trinity).#3 The Virgin Mary: Highly prioritized in Catholic and Orthodox dogmas as the Theotokos (God-bearer), though ranked lower in Protestantism.#4 The Apostle Paul: His letters form the bulk of New Testament doctrine and define how Christians understand salvation and the church.#5 Abraham: He typically falls right here. He is the "Father of the Faith." Without the Abrahamic Covenant, the Christian claim to being God's people (the spiritual "Israel") has no legal or theological basis in the Bible.
Dumb Russian slide thread.Christ is King of King and Lord of Lords.I reject the Talmud and will never care about Slav Wars #32423.
>>533347429Then separate yourself from a sect and read the Bible. Catholics and Orthodox beliefs are traditions of Man that aren’t even biblical. They do a great job clouding the minds of Christians. Catholics being the worst. I don’t subscribe to any sect because I was humbled by their bullshit years ago. I have officially read the entire Bible now and I have learned more from that than any church. God’s Word is written so that a child can understand it.
>>533348883>demon worship was crushedLol bruh you worship a foreskin demon and use Jewish Talmudic reasoning to claim to the contrary.I still love you though, you stupid stubborn philosemitic faggot.
>>533348807"Evil" is subjective
>>533348888>those digisAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAWhere is your Yahweh now!?
>>533346981>christians destroyed all my sourcescool, then from now on call us "Christ followers who defeated all my gods of war"also, in the post that you're replying to i've linked to pagan sources, you just don't care to read thembecause you WANT a religion that's open to interpretation, while shamelessly accusing us of it "sol invictus" my ass, you'll take anything that isn't christianity
>>533343751Necessary lawman.
>>533349068>because you WANT a religion that's open to interpretationWhich is what you do with Christianity
>>533343751The rebellion in the Garden of Eden was about the question whether or not God exclusively should have the right to know and determine what is good and evil, or if human beings shouldn't be able to determine their own fate entirely.Adam and Eve chose the latter, and God allowed for a few thousand years (basically a week for him in a metaphorical sense) to prove that no, darkness and light can not coexist.So it needs to escalate to a point of almost absolute destruction of mankind> If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
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>>533343751I'm just against all forms of evil.
>>533347512atheism and pagansim are also majority non-whitethe real question ishow come "survival of the fittest" atheist evolution favors christiansand how come the female followers of Christ are more fertile than women who claim to follow goddesses of fertility
>>533348927Here's the thing: I was raised Catholic, and found no Truth therein.I've read the Bible, its boring pedantic and comes across like a Marvel comics written by a retarded desert bandit - what a surprise - and did not, at any stage, instill in me any sense of legitimacy nor Truth.The Bible reads as the self-serving ethos of a gaggle of meme-stealing semitic cretins, followed the sequel, wherein a subversive Jewish rabbi and nobleman attempts to undermine the extant societal structure to empower himself and his followers, up to an including attempting to open the bandit-faith to outsiders, resulting in the rest of the bandit semites having him killed by a third party, whereupon his scheming mostly-Jewish followers fled into my homeland and began telling ridiculous Marvel comics stories about the Iran Rabbi who rose from the dead via the power of the Yahweh and will one day rise again to defeat Thanos-Satan in a dunk contest on Mars alongside a 7 or 9 headed sea serpent/dragon or some shit.
>>533349227>the real question is>how come "survival of the fittest" atheist evolution favors christiansPaganism doesn't believe in "survival of the fittest", god youre so fucking Jewish.>and how come the female followers of Christ are more fertile than women who claim to follow goddesses of fertilitySame reason most of them are niggers lol
>>533349227>atheism and pagansim are also majority non-whiteNotice how these clowns flip flop. The majority of western atheist are White. But you have no problem equating all atheist with homosexuality which is not true when you take into account Eastern Atheism
>>533347368on god
>>533343751Why does Loki exist?
>>533347368on jesus
>>533349330atheism is a dubious classification
>>533343751BECAUSE GOD IS A KIKEalso cuz he loves satan and doesnt want to delete himso hes letting satan rape us allso that maybe satan will see us all forgiving him and repentsomething gay like that.
>>533348585not only does faggotry go against the bible
>>533344329nope its actually my domain now.
>>533344329>posts william blake art>misunderstands completelyHell is part of energy and life.God is both the symbolic and the diabolic, and so are we.Also the demiurge would symbolically be analogous to Urizen but the point of blake is NOT that urizen is bad because he exist he's bad because he's alone.I'm just too educated for /pol/
>>533349419>>533349448This retard
>>533349487>but bible saysSo homosexuality has nothing to do with Christianity then?
>>533348585and even then it's still far lower than any group of atheists / agnostics
>>533348883>anything except worshipping the jew is DEMONS
>>533349573>it's still far lower than any group of atheistsNot really. The amount of Christian support is greater than the atheist population as a whole in the Wesr
>>533347661>>533347810you're free to look up each of those terms and read up on themthe KJV translates everything as "hell", which is what has made things confusing for you
>>533349573>Notice how these clowns flip flop. The majority of western atheist are White. But you have no problem equating all atheist with homosexuality which is not true when you take into account Eastern AtheismAnd you're flip flopping again
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>>533349330>>533349227>what percentage of global self-identifying christian women in 2026 are of White-European ethnic derivation and compare that to the global percentage of women self-identifying as European paganist-traditional ethos who are of similar ethnic derivation. that is, of the global populations of women who identify as christian and those which identify as pagan-traditionalist, which category is more predominantly White-European in composition?Christian Women: Only about 30–32% of global Christians are of primarily European ancestry as of 2026. The vast majority (nearly 70%) are people of color, with the fastest growth occurring in Sub-Saharan Africa (growing at 2.59% annually) and Asia.Paganist Women: This group is significantly more ethnically homogenous. Surveys consistently show that 80–84% of practitioners identify as White. This is largely due to the movement's origins in Euro-centric "Native Faith" traditions (like Heathenry, Druidism, and Romuva) that focus on ancestral European heritage. 2. Percentage of Global Populations (2026 Projections)Global Christian Women (White-European): This group constitutes approximately 10.3% of the global female population (~425 million women).Global Paganist Women (White-European): This group constitutes approximately 0.03–0.05% of the global female population (~2.5–4 million women). While the absolute number of White-European Christian women is far larger, the Paganist-Traditionalist category is much more "White-European" in its internal makeup. Christianity is now a global, multi-ethnic religion where European-derived women are a shrinking demographic share, whereas European Paganism remains a niche, predominantly White-European movement.
>>533349227paganism is a meme. Atheism just means you don't worship any deity and don't feel kinship towards other christians. You only care about your own race and that's it
>>533349656You didn't answer the question either. Yoi have no problem making shit up, make up more shit
>>533343751You're Fucked Cutlet.Your pants are down now too. We can see your wiener in your death video.
>>533349136>Christianity in 206 AD is the same as Christianiry in 2026Holy fuckjng copes Judemann
>>533348107the national socialists have always been christian- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult_KA
>>533349783>we demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations Lmao
>>533348526>europeanchristian whites are superior to pagan whitesthis has been proven time and again
>>533349700Who tf is Ryan Burge?
>>533349868Superior at letting jews run their finances
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>>533348625>>533348743
>>533343751The story of satan you recall is literally from "paradise lost" a fiction novel lmao. In the bible its only written that satan wanted to be like god/surpass god and was defeated by the angels.
>>533348888>"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then [the jews] took up stones to [kill] Him [...]"- John 48-49
>>533349868I've heard this rhetoric before.>christian whites are superior to pagan whites this has been proven time and again=>jews are superior to whites this has been proven time and againIt's as I said before, its as though the ethos infects Gentiles, amd they begin acting JUST LIKE JEWS.Really makes.me think the gnostics might be onto something.
>>533349942Evolution selected for tribalism
>>533350005Your scripture is off there bud48 “How do you know me?” Nathanael asked.Jesus answered, “I saw you while you were still under the fig tree before Philip called you.”49 Then Nathanael declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.”
>>533349942Religiousity is baste.Judaic religiously, if interpreted through a good race, may for a time appear based - but its core principles allow Jews in the door, amongst others, and inevitably lead to your nations being overrun and ruled by Jews.Christcucks continually struggle with the fact the modern era is the CONSEQUENCE of Christianity being the globally dominant religion for decades.>evolution selected for religiousity>>YES FUCK THE GOYIM HERETICS!>Christian religiousity lead to our modern Judaic paradigm>>NOOOOOOREEEEEEEOYVEEEEEEY!
>>533349868>subservient goys are better tools than men with free will I’m sure, but at what cost
>>533349189by what definitionaccording to the muslims, it's not evil to have multiple wives, and rape 9 year oldsaccording to pagans, it's not evil to have orgies in your temples, or perform human sacrifices in themaccording to atheists, it's not evil to be a trannyyour definition of a "good moral character" is the christian one
>>533350008Also this.Christianity and its universality principles, regardless of what they may have been like 6 centuries ago, even 2 centuries ago, are UNQUESTIONABLY the origin point for so many of the issues in our society today.Your Judaic condition is not the consequence of rejecting philosemitism, but of philosemitism conquering all the world, and thus forcing you to embrace your christcuck brothers be they brown green or whatever else.
>>533349330so you're asian now?
>>533350202Is circumcision objectively wrong?
>>533349509the image you're replying to has plenty of extra-biblical sources listed also>covered in blood samples showing signs of someone who suffered extreme torture and blood loss>feet covered in Jerusalem limestone>embedded pollen from area of Levant>linen samples matching ones found at Siege of Masada ~60 AD>2 micrometer thick 3 dimensional imprint on topmost surface layers of linen, that when topographized literally just look like a photograph, far beyond the capabilities of any Renaissance, much less Antiquity, artist to recreate>entire history of Shroud lines up with history of Image of Edessa from the classical east, right down to obscure, tiny details such as specific patterns of burn holes appearing in other Orthodox renditions in the 11th, 9th, earlier centuries. refuting the initial dating to medieval times>early fragments of apocryphal writings quoted by Church Fathers as far back as 200 AD reference Jesus's burial shroud actually being given and moved around by the Church before being hidden and kept safe, establishing historical awareness/precedent of the artifact>the earliest Orthodox icons of Jesus line up exactly with the facial features of the Shroud; the Orthodox icon still used today of Jesus's face lines up exactly with when the original image of Edessa was taken out of its hiding spot and made public again in 554 >wound up being publicly known in France a century and a half after a Crusader reported seeing the shroud of Jesus in Constantinople before it disappeared in the sacking of 1204>only recreated a few years ago, in a laser lab where an incredibly intense, short burst of laser/radiation copied the already known information from the shroud to copy it>God literally took a photograph in 1st century AD so His Church would have His face for the icons
>>533350278Amen sister
>>533349537it does, in that we rebuke it
>>533350202>according to the muslimsAnd to you, just a few years ago, and arguably RIGHT NOW consider christcuck identifying fogures are the number 1 spurce of modern argumentation around age of consent.>, it's not evil to have multiple wivesIt's not.> and rape 9 year oldsJews also fo that, did that back in the Old Testament.>according to pagans, it's not evil to have orgies in your templesNice.> or perform human sacrifices in themAlso nice.If you aren't sacrificing your enemies to your God's, you don't believe in your God's or your ethos is peak cuckoldry.>according to atheists, it's not evil to be a trannyIt's not.Being a tranny is a mental illness.It's evil to have allowed Jews to take control of your society, but Christians did it and do it every day.
>>533350321>has plenty of extra-biblical sources listedNope.
>>533350359Do you?On what basis?The Old Testament?
>>533350359>it doesIt has nothing to do with atheism. Kek
>>533344392Hell isn’t a physical fiery pit where imps stake sinners with tridents. That was invented by catholic church to justify why people should donate 10% of their income to them.Hell is absence of God, those who reject God, his mercy and compassion go to hell not because God punishes them, but of their own free will, as they reject the presence of God, thus rejecting Heaven and his Kingdom. Satan is just a arameic term meaning tempter, in New Testament Jesus calls Peter “Satan”, not because Peter is the lord of hell, but because he tempts Jesus to reject his purpose to die for our sins.
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>>533343751Me on the right moments before having my way with that young, innocent, defenseless virgin.
>>533350063thanks, it's - John 8:58-59
>>533350629Is circumcision objectively wrong?
>>533350281>why was circumcision implementedseveral reasonsfor one, it was to remind them not to be degenerates (fags, race mixers, etc)>"If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell."- Matthew 5:29-30but mostly, it was a sacrifice. an acknowledgement of god's authority since he is the creator of the world, he can even order abraham to take away the life of his firstborn son, isaac>"All that open the womb are Mine, and every male firstborn among your livestock, whether ox or sheep. But the firstborn of a donkey you shall redeem with a lamb. And if you will not redeem him, then you shall break his neck. All the firstborn of your sons you shall redeem. And none shall appear before Me empty-handed."- Exodus 34:19-20let alone a circumcisionbut that was in accordance to the old lawwith animal sacrifices at the temple, etcgod established a new covenant, through the death and resurrection of jesus, the messiah a sacrifice of the firstborn son of god>"Abraham looked around and saw a ram caught in a bush by its horns. He went and got it and offered it as a burnt offering instead of his son."- Genesis 22:13>"The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ."- Galatians 3:16so now we no longer have to keep circumcision physically, but mentally >"Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation."- Galatians 6:15>"Circumcise your hearts, therefore, and do not be stiff-necked any longer."- Deuteronomy 10:16
>>533350402Níð and Ergi (Norse): The concept of ergi referred to a man being "unmanly" or effeminate. Being accused of taking the submissive sexual role was considered the ultimate insult (níð), equated with cowardic>on what, if any, grounds does the ethos of christianity oppose homosexuality or transexualismChristian opposition to homosexuality and transgenderism is primarily grounded in a combination of scriptural prohibitions, a theological vision of creation, and moral philosophy regarding the body and nature.1. Biblical ProhibitionsTraditional Christian views rely on specific texts that address same-sex acts and gender distinctions: Old Testament (Mosaic Law): Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 label male same-sex intercourse as "detestable".>most antihomo part of the Bible is also one of the most Jewish lolNew Testament (Pauline Epistles): In Romans 1:26–27, the Apostle Paul describes both male and female same-sex relations as "unnatural" and "shameful". >New Test only contains literal incel ethos shitDeuteronomy 22:5: This verse forbids men from wearing women's clothing and vice versa, which is often cited by groups like the Assemblies of God as a prohibition against cross-gender behavior. >OT hyperkikes still more anti-fag than NT neojudenThe only part of your religion which calls out faggotry is the hyperkiked part and the bit where incelchrist's Nick Feutnes equivalent screeched about pussy and ass being the same lol
>>533350730>>why was circumcision implementedThat's not what I asked Is circumcision objectively wrong?
>>533350425>more vague interpretive bullshitSounds like nonsense to me.
>>533350496Yes but the nationalism is Zionism, anti-immigration gets undermined by having to support Christian brothers (or else become the worst sort of debated hypocrite, claiming yourself a Son of Christ while decrying other Christians on the basis of race), and anti-minority focused on women who get abortions and faggots lol
>>533350499yes, the pagan whites did rape christian womenbut there's a cross on your flag for a reasonif you had any sense, you'd be afraid to even post trash like thisbut then again, if you had any sense you wouldn't be a pagan subhuman
>>533350496And you didnt answer me: Who is Ryan Burge?What're his views on Israel?Is he perhaps a Zionist Christcuck?
>>533343751>I was raised cathothibg>”Yahweh”You got that shit from the internet you lying faggot. Catholics don’t call the Lord “Yahweh.”
>>533350974Is circumcision objectively wrong?
>>533350960>zionismthe bible is anti-zionist- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s
>>533350974And Christians raped pagans, let's also be clear.And they raped jews and Muslims and all kinds stuff.Because they could just ask forgiveness and it was fine.The reason you have a crosses on flags is because Jews won.Look around.This is the consequence of "your victory", nothing less.
>>533351087>the bible is anti-zionist Not really
>>533343751To answer this question you would need to answer why were we created, what is our purpose here.As far as I know, we were created to overcome evil and become better.Anyway you were not the first to ask that, there are 1,5k years of the best minds of Europe trying to answer all these questions. I don't care that much, but maybe you should read medieval philosophy, most of the new atheist questions were already answered before.
>>533350960>no ethnostateschristian whites have had plenty of ethostates, including the one in which you live>"But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."- 1 Timothy 5:8>"Beware of all whoredom, my son, and chiefly take a wife of the seed of thy fathers, and take not a strange woman to wife, which is not of thy father’s tribe [...]"- Tobit 4:12>"Ye have transgressed, and have taken strange wives, [...] do the Lord's bidding: and separate yourselves from the people of the land, and from your strange wives." - Ezra 10:10-11>"In those days also saw I Jews that had married [foreign] wives [...] and could not even speak in the Jews' language [...] And I contended with them, and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair, and made them swear by God, saying, Ye shall not give your daughters unto their sons, nor take their daughters unto your sons, or for yourselves. Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? [...] Shall we then hearken unto you to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives?" - Nehemiah 13:23-27>"Or else, if indeed you do go back, and cling to the remnant of these nations—these that remain among you—and make marriages with them, and go in to them and they to you, know for certain that the Lord your God will no longer drive out these nations from before you. But they shall be snares and traps to you, and scourges on your sides and thorns in your eyes, until you perish from this good land which the Lord your God has given you."- Joshua 23:12-13
>>533351087>let's talk about dead men from centuries past while all major expressions of modern christucckoldry are gay and brownWell, you cheistcucks sure got rused easily then, didnt you?How was you dogma of "truth" so easily subverted and undermined?I didnt ask you about the Bible, I asked.ypu about Ryan Burge, and whether the bible says x y or z doesnt change the fact that most modern Christcucks cannot and do not even have the capacity to be nationalistic lol
>>533346776Hellas is where naturalism was born and naturalism will end up killing every religion on earth. It's a literal truth nuke.
>>533350823What exactly do you not understand? I think I explained everything pretty clearly in layman terms
>>533351195>christian whites have had>have had>hadWhat happened to them?Christianity dominated the globe for centuries, during which h those ethnostates all collapsed due to Jewish subversion?Weird lol
>>533351195Is circumcision objectively wrong?
>>533346776Language is subjective you retard. Daimon ≠ Demon.
>>533351253>you must not understandNo, see, I understood, its just retarded.I understand how to you, as a christcuck, its like "oh yeah here we go", but that's because youre retarded and Jewish.
Your question is answered regularly here. Theologically correctly. Satan IS THE RULER OF THE WHOLE EARTH. Globo ‘elites’ are followers of the lies Lucifer told to man in Eden, new age theosophist luciferians and judaism. The Earth is cursed by God because had a choice >destroy man as the jealous angels had planned Or>repair manjust like we would have the same choice if we created AI children who we loved but who were turned against us and tried to steal our secrets of creation (the forbidden fruits) and replace us, invading our homes to take our positions as the first people had decided to do to God.Man & tempter were cast into the Earth warped by the curse. Death began. Everything was warped with evil. The purpose of life in the cursed Earth is to separate the wheat from the chaff and to refine man as silver is refined in the crucible separating it from the dross. The messiah will return soon. The final globo empire (all globo empires seek godhood for elites who follow lucifers lies and all globo’s are symbolised by chimera beasts) which is the great beast is here now. The prophecy has been fulfilled in finite detail which continues to happen (now with AI the questions and doubts that people had just a few decades ago are answered, how the antichrist can talk to us all separately at the same time, for one example of prophecy).I’ll skip the rest. The dead are dead no people are in heaven or hell except a few named people. They are not waiting the dead do not wait just as you did not wait to be born - you have already been dead once and you did not suffer time. Christ will judge us on the last day. Then the curse will be lifted, God will return in person to live with us and “dry every tear”. Everything will change. No more death. We will understand everything again. Even the animals will be changed and restored and saved. Satan and all his children will be cast into the lake of fire. Then it will be over, but also only just begun.
>>533351282Tbh Im totally fine with it being said I worship a being of Light which opposes the deity of the Jews by provisioning wisdom and knowledge to Mankind in the form of a naturalistic entity associated with transformation lol
>>533346592>Wait, who made the lake of fire and why?Humans made hell and made up a god that conveniently agrees with everything they do to legitimize their power over you.
>>533351102jews won precisely because we abandoned ChristEurope was perfectly fine when Christianity was the ultimate authority. the enlightenment and the transition to an atheist/secular society is what fucked us. these movements led to women's rights and democracy, which was the start of the end. for centuries before that the Church kept Europe safe from countless barbarian and Saracen invaders. the US was founded by a bunch of prots and freemasons so it was always going to turn out fucked
>>533351327Why? What’s “retarded” about my explanation? What problems do you have with it?
OOGA BOOGA SATANUNGA BUNGA DEMONS
alright, that's enough pearls before swine for one nightenjoy your damnation
>>533351507We accept your concession. 42 post crash out over the supernatural. You should go to /x/
>>533351507Why can't you answer of circumcision is objectively wrong?
>>533351327>christcuckShut up you dangleberry. Waisting peoples time. Jeets, Moes, communarks, sodomites and follow the fake science woke cultists are such total garbage. Nobody cares that you want to be stupid. Good luck with it, now fuck off. Wasted 5 minutes of my day polishing a turd here.
>>533343751>Why does Satan still exist?Because Satan is a test of the souls character, and can still be redeemed by forgiveness.Do you actually think God can't defeat evil?
>>533351222Not only is that Truth, the Jews know and fear it.https://jcfa.org/article/neo-paganism-in-the-public-square-and-its-relevance-to-judaism/Jews in the modern era FUNDAMENTALLY DO NOT FEAR CHRISTIANITY NOR CHRISTIANS, RATHER THEY USE IT AS A TOOL TO TRICK THE GENTILES.>See Yoram Hazony and "Christian Nationalism"*Note: Also relevant as to claims of Christians being more prone to "nationalism".>See: Donald Teump posting pics as JesusThey fear Naturalistic Neopagan National Socialists, not you.N3S terrifies the Habiru, while the neoJuden christcuck is basically his meat Tomogachi lol
>>533351634Why tf is God testing you if he's all knowing?>muh free willOh so he's not all knowing, and thus not God, ok then lol
>>533351157the New Testament is. Christ was. When the Pharisees tried to goad Jesus into supporting a proto-Zionist movement he rebuffed them.When Pontius Pilate asked him if he was King of the jews/Israel he responded that his kingdom was not of this world
>>533351478>Church kept Europe safe from countless barbarian and Saracen invadersbut not jews, how odd.
>>533351507Every accusation by a philosemite is projection.You fear the fires we do not, because you know you are deserving.
>>533351478Nigger Beitain was full christcucked when you signed the Balfour Declaration, AND IT WAS CHRISTKEK IDENTIRY RETARD SHIT THAT GOT YOU TO SIGN IT wtf are you talking about?
>>533351483Oof bud, look, what youre saying here is like this...Imagine you asked me, like, why do alligators not live in Canada?And then you came back with this big nonsense screed about how its because ancient Sabrina's opposed the rise of the Arcosaue lineage and thus they instituted a crystalline matrix that would alter global weather conditions and...Are you gonna try to converse with me further, or grimace in pity and shading and go about your day with the thought of "well that's some retarded nonsense..."?Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
>>533351478If it wasn't for secularism, non-hebrews like you would've been sold to slavery. Remember that Yeshua gave instructions to slaves to love their masters like God.Buddha forbade slavery when he was alive and did it a lot earlier.
>>533351941If you read the story of the "good Samaritan" and don't immediately start to question this whole Judaic mess, I dunno man, Im inclined to call you a lowcog peasant jewraped goyslave retard with a head full of nonsense, call me.crazy.I still love.you all tho.
>>533351746>the New Testament is.Not really
>>533350974True. Our pillaging and raping ways just got turned against "heathens". Works out just as well in the end.
>>533343886the christian nationalism larp 10yrs ago was created by jeffrey epstein on this board and ghislaine pushed woke agendas on reddit, the whole culture war was orchestrated by israeli jews lmao
>>533343751God is bored and wants to have fun. No Satan would be like playing a video game with the invincibility cheat on. Not that much fun.
>>533348883christcuckery and judaism are the demon worship, yahweh is a pestillence demon that allegedly cursed people in egypt with plague. Sounds demonic
>>533351746>the New Testament is. Christ was. No it isnt and no he wasnt. Christ was seeking power for himself, simple as.The biggest and most obvious sign of a jewraped goyslave lowcog peasant caste fella is when you realize he never even CONSIDERED the case the the rabbi Yeshua was just another subversive kike trying to subverted the Jewish power structure to install himself - Reminder that he was a Jewish nobleman, not some poor pleb - via appealing to the gentiles for aid.He was basically a more subversive version of Herod, and less successful in the short term lolWhen the Pharisees tried to goad Jesus into supporting a proto-Zionist movement he rebuffed them.
>>533352078Except the "heathens" are just other White people who don't embrace Jewry in their souls lolYou're basically jannissaries for Judaism lol
>>533349227the amish are inbred, mormons are adopting africans and heavily converting amongst minority groups now, majority of christcucks are nonwhite globally. Atheism and Paganism are White and East Asian. abrahamic religion is for sandniggers, bantu niggers, latinx niggers and jews
>>533351925You are right, I really should grimace in pity. You are not trying to find out anything and this thread is just a ragebait, I am not going to convince you of anything as you are here not to find out answers but to bait people and scream nonsense Good night, and please delete this thread, I am getting a second hand embarrassment
>>533352333>majorityOVERWHELMING majority.Only 30% of Christian women worldwide are White.
>>533352078christian denominational wars killed 25% of central europe's population between 1618-1648, the only thing christcuckery is good for is killing white people and benefiting the jews
>>533352355>n-no u!OK bud lolTake care. I love you.
>>533352378less than that, I'd say 10%. I dont count anyone from latin america, africa, the middle east as "white"
>>533345053hindooism is also worthless and poojeets are subanimal. same goes for islam. The existance of other retards doesn't mean you don't follow a semitic religion.
>>533343751Because cattle are too stupid to realize that God and Satan are the same being, just veiled to give you free will. And when they do, they are once again too stupid to realize that just because they are the same thing doesn't mean its correct or acceptable to choose evil. The early church realized this and believed it was better to trick the cattle into being good by threatening them with something mirroring material suffering instead of the separation from God, because the cattle will always assume they could do better than God if they were separated.
>>533352286>>533352387That's my point. We killed white people before christianity and we killed white people after. Nothing gonna come between us and a good rapin n pillagin!
>>533351707>Why tf is God testing you if he's all knowing?Its your own test. Are you righteous and good? Are you really? Can you face Satan and forgive him and love him without having your self righteous attitude twisted towards fear anger hatred or destruction? Would you go back in time to 'kill Hitler' to save the Jews, becoming a murderer yourself, and killing the timeline from which were born because of his existence.>Oh so he's not all knowing, and thus not God, ok then lolYou think he wouldn't make a total piece of shit knowing that he had the best of all possible redemption arcs in the history of creation?You think that Satan, who is basically like a gnat in the face of Gods power, is enough of a threat that God needed to remove him from the formula for creation before making it?I don't really get your argument. Its basically, Satan, who I don't know, bad. God, who I don't know, 'good', but Satan exists, therefore god = bad.You don't know the first thing about anything. You've never even met them, in all your immortal years as a soul, you never even got to know anyone whom you supposedly hate.It has nothing to do with God and Satan, it has everything to do with what is within your own mind.You have constructed these ideas, to separate the thoughts and feelings of your own mind into categories of relative good and evil, rather than living in a united household. A house divided against itself cannot stand.Your brain has been so raped by partisan politics that you can't even understand what you are accessing when you think about entities. That was your own choice to go along with it, but you were too stupid to make it a conscious choice.Because of your lack of consciousness and true will, you are going around the merry go round over egoic delusions about words salad made of black and white color gradients on a 2d surface the determining what you believe to exist.Does your spiritual sense exist in a state of suspension that froze over 2000 years ago?
>>533345116your image is a lie, the old testament jews are the same ones of today, that's just a /pol/ cope. jesus and abraham looked like the merchant caricature
>>533347063they are, you all share the same jew god and creation myth at the beginning, all servile to a single demon that causes you all to infight
>>533352432what percentage of white-european women who are solely caucasoid european - ie non-jewish, non-hispanic, non-middle eastern, non-north african, etc - are also christian and what does that represent as a percentage of global and white-european populationsBased on demographic data as of 2026, approximately 67% to 76% of white European women identify as Christian. While secularization has increased the number of religiously unaffiliated individuals, women in Europe consistently report higher levels of religiosity and Christian identification than their male counterparts. >that moment you realize White Europeans are as-Christian as Christianity is non-WhiteOof.Also>67
>>533352543The best form of giving me free will would be to be absent hubris and arrogance, to eapouse TRUE LOVE for me, by backing away from the situation and allowing things to play out as they will.You've basically just made the cold-cut case that Yahweh doesn't actually care about you, he's just too full of pride and hubris to leave you be, he needs to to worship him, to look at him, to obsess over him and what he thinks of you.Again, as someone raised by a single mother who was a narcissistic sociopath, ngl, Yahweh makes a lot of sense and seems very familiar to me - he sounds just like my mother.
>tfw no nun gf
>>533350823>show someone a house>say you can be inside or outside the house>"vague interpretive bullshit"Life is gonna be rough on this anon.
>>533352552Also>you thinkIM ASKING, youre telling me what you think.And I gotta say dude?>Yahweh is a two faced monster that attacks you constantly, claiming to love you out one aide of his mouth as he tortures your children out the other, constantly demanding you pay attention to him and think about him, who made you as trash so you might have a sweet redemption arc like in a Jewish TV show (mostly you just die of dysentery and tuberculosis tho) and is so powerful and mighty that he allows his butthurt former employee - or maybe his schizoid shadowself, depends who you ask apparently - to abuse you and lead you astray because... just trust the plan goyTherein lies the rub.
>>533352988Your greatest mistake is thinking that you are smarter than me. You are not.
Pagans are also jews
>>533353048>comparing "this is a housemyou can be inside or outside of" to "Hell isn’t a physical fiery pit where imps stake sinners with tridents. That was invented by catholic church to justify why people should donate 10% of their income to them.Hell is absence of God, those who reject God, his mercy and compassion go to hell not because God punishes them, but of their own free will, as they reject the presence of God, thus rejecting Heaven and his Kingdom.">good faith genuine commentary by a legit sane personChoose one.And yes, life is always hard for intelligent people surrounded by dumb stubborn jewraped goyslave chattle with heads full of Jewish bullshit they deny is Jewish on the basis of other Jewish bullshit.
>>533353256The Thai Gook LARP has arrived. What doll did mommy buy you today?
>>533353256Your my creator, I fucking well shouldn't be, but if you wanted me to think you were smart, you shouldn't have made me smart enough to see how fucking stupidly you and your agents behave.
>>533353401I'm agnostic.But I just don't like liars.
>>533353468You can never proof to me that you are smart. You are just a dumb retard. None of the people you know are Doctors.Half of my family relatives are doctors.
>>533353582>I'm agnosticYou're a liar lol
>>533343751The pic is retarded because it implies that either the dude on the right is jewish or he's all the things listed on the right.OP is a retarded cock sucking faggot. Why would anyone bother read the post if he can't even get the pic right
>>53335360 3OK lol
>>533353650Dumbass retard toddlers. That's what atheists are.
>>533343751>Why does Satan still exist?satan is a character from a jewish fairy tale, fairy tales are not real, nor the characters from them.
>>533353635>The pic is retarded because it implies that either the dude on the right is jewish or he's all the things listed on the rightIs this an "I'm pretending to be retarded so I can go HAH GOTCHA YOU THOUGHT I WAS RETARDED!" or is this just genuine IQ70 tier failure to grasp to context?Maybe its a language thing lol
>>533353603>You can never proof to me that you are smart>You can never proof to me
>>533343751What's with the fixation on early medieval soldiers as some sort of mascot for paganism anyway?
>>53335369 4OK but Im not an atheist lolYou didnt read the thread, you just got upset. Nice.
>>533353744You will always be a retard. Destined to die and go to Hell.
>>533353761I cna smell the filth from the air.
>>533353755Honestly? It was the last time Europe wasnt gay and full of gay philosemtism.Once you realize those crusadeniggers were hypocritical sleaze in service to the perpetuation of Judaic power structures, its almost impossible to feel anything besides sadness when you see the golems marching around.
>>533353791That's nice Gook, what doll did mommy buy you today?>>533353819Because Gooks smell like mothballs
>>53335381 9Well, someone did say youre Thai, so... Try closing your mouth?
>>533353888Your spirit is garbage, so as your filthy mouth.
>>533353888Pffft the digits have been fun in this thread, that's my second Triple+8s
>>533353876I will always be the chosen ONE of God. The One and only.
>>533353620Okay bud, lay it on me.
>>53335392 9Thats ok, I still love you.Even with your stinky breath and ugly coloration and bad Judaic ethos.
>>533353972I'm whiter than you. I posted my picture plenty of times. Fucking coward.
>>533353961I saw it in a dream after I rolled off ur mum lel
>>533353956OK but what is the latest doll mommy bought you?
>>533343751The man on the left was Christian
>>533354012>I'm whiter than you. I posted my picture plenty of timesPost your Gook eyes ladyboy
>>533354045You are a retard toddler diaper wearing shitting motherfucker.
>>533354084Die and in a fire you worthless cunt.
>>533344620Well, feel free to go back to worshiping Zeus or Jupiter and start sacrificing animals and praying to rocks again, no one is stopping you. Let me know how it works out for you.If you want to return to a polytheistic system of animal sacrifices, and divination through animal entrails, and believing in Zeus the rapist god, then I don't know what to tell you.Many of the greatest Greeks OPPOSED the Greek gods and the Greek system that enslaved the masses with vain superstitions, exactly like modern-day Christianity, which is far more polytheistic than it is monotheistic.Have you ever slaughtered an animal and butchered it in many pieces? You would really make your life decisions based on what some intoxicated girl mumbles to some priest and if a goat's liver has a blemish?These are the European traditions you want to return to? Many Europeans died so we could stop animal sacrifice and blood magic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ESNI-FvFyQ
>>533344620If you want to reject Christ, and not live according to His Will and Testament, then I believe you will be judged according to your works. Your good deeds will not wash away your bad deeds, and we all have to pay God in the end.If you want to go back to a pre-Christian era, with animal sacrificing, and believing in the crazy polytheistic life of the gods, then that is your choice. If you think that it is better to honor your ancient ancestors by keeping their old traditions, and that their system of worship is better than the one the Bible presents then I won't hate you, or think less of you. I might not understand why you would want that, but it really won't matter to me.I would point out that the Norse myths were only recorded because of Christians. The bulk of Norse mythology was preserved thanks to Christian scholars. If these people want to return to a pre-Christian era, then stop using English, stop using our alphabet. Go back to your ancient rune system, and go back to believing that the earth was made from the body parts of a giant, and that the clouds are his brains.
>>533354092OK but what doll did mommy buy you this week?>>533354126You smell like mothballs Gook, post your eyes
>>533354181Go to hell. Bitch. Die in a fire you worthless cunt.
>>533343751Jenny Craig
>>533345116>in greekyou're an idiot, buddy.what's your purpose here? are you being paid to spread idiocy or just really really stupid?
>>533354037Atta boy, run away from actually justifying your claims when confronted.Glad you learned something from her.
>>533354212Ok but post your yellow Gook eyes mpthball ladyboy
>>533343886Epicurus forever undefeated
>>533354324Fucking mutilated cattle always get uppity in any anti-christ thread.
>>533347063They literally are lol. Islam is just arian christianity.
>>533354365Ok but you smell like mothballs and you're a Gook
>>533354450I'm the chosen ONE of God, and the King of Heaven and Earth.
>>533354514That's nice and all but you have flat face and you smell like mothballs. It's because you're a Gook.
>>533354596Your mockery gave my God the justification to make your life miserable. And from what I have seen.It tastes wonderful. Your misery.
>>533354675That's nice but like I said >>533354596>you have flat face and you smell like mothballs. It's because you're a Gook.
>>533354738Life is good. God is great. Praise be to the Lord. Glory be to the supreme One.
>>533354776You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions but the reality is >>533354596>you have flat face and you smell like mothballs. It's because you're a Gook.You will never be White or Christian
