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are any of you high iq enough to tell me the real reason that it is frowned upon to "defend yourself" in court instead of having a lawyer? not just frowned upon by judges, other legal people, but also the media and popular culture itself. i sense a hidden agenda here but i can't pinpoint it, it certainly isn't the reason they claim ("because you won't be able to defend yourself properly and will be found guilty!") because since when has judges/prosecutors/lawyers ever gave a fuck if the defendant is found guilty? they get kickbacks for having a high incarceration rate.
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>>533354294
Because it’s not actually about making a compelling argument. It’s about following their gay little rules to win concessions here and there. It’s not logic, it’s not reasoning. It’s mathematics.
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>>533354395
so its like an NPC thing? where the NPC collective just makes arbitrary non-logical virtue signaling rules and if you don't follow it they get mad because you've shown you aren't an NPC?
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>>533354294
Because it's all about the money. They are all friends and in the same club and are just there to rob you. I pissed a cop off one time by saying this. Later that night I was arrested for Public Intoxication. Guess what was on TV at the jail. Seinfeld... that's right. It's a kiked system.
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>>533354719
>Because it's all about the money
this. youre breaking their system by rejecting their norms. however, they've designed that system to punish you which is why defending yourself will almost never work. you'll experience the same thing among doctors and the medical industry when you tell them that you just arent going to go to their annual physicals, let them jab you with strange needles, or pump yourself full of their SSRI's and antibiotics. except they cant punish you back the way the legal industry can so it can be fun to watch them seethe and kvetch
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Are you high IQ enough to understand you shouldn't do industrial electrical installations and repairs without some kind of licensure? That understanding basic electrical theory from YouTube might not actually be enough to not kill yourself and everyone around you?

Are you high IQ enough to understand the court system is not an Internet forum where you just post you lost tranny over and over again or quote bullshit?
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>>533354580
Yeah basically the system basically now caters to foids who gets paid decent amounts to do busywork because they don't get into trouble and don't ask questions. You are a second class citizen to the system because you're lucid.
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>>533354294

1. Because majority of people defending themselves in court are retard sovereign citizens who, believing that they are above the law, are only disruptive to normal court process being done in an orderly, nonchaotic manner.

2. Because, obviously, someone not trained in law is, by default, outclassed against trained and proficient prosecuting attorneys. It's like pitting a pasty chud against Mike Tyson in his prime.

3. Depending on how badly one defending themself is badly beaten in court, there could be possible grounds for appeal thereby prolonging court cases even further and jamming up the justice system even more.
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>>533355418
realtors are one of the oldest professions running that scam. just tell them you plan to sell your home as an owner listing and watch them lose their minds
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>>533354294
legal shit is literally a game of chess and when u sit down and move a random piece and then everyone around stands up and is like UM SWEATY U CAN ONLY MOVE THAT PIECE IN AN "L" SHAPE then u will know that u are fucked
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>>533354294
because you'll embarass yourself and waste everybody's time, do you remember when that SUV represented itself in court after running over those people in the christmas parade? yeah, that's exactly what you'll look like
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>>533354294

JUST BRIBE ENTIRE JUDICIARIES LIKE EPSTEIN DID IN MICHIGAN. YUP, THERE'S AN EPSTEIN FILE FOR THAT:

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>>533354294
Well it's generally frowned upon because the average person does NOT understand law. It's one thing to represent yourself to the magistrate if you're contesting a parking ticket but anything more severe than that you should REALLY hire a lawyer because the other side will and you are NOT a lawyer.
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>>533354294
Judges are lawyers. When they see muggles attempting to practice law its like a doctor watching a patient practice surgery. Doctors and lawyers are the most spoiled people to exist
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>>533354294
Generally, having experience with a procedure makes the procedure go more smoothly. The judge/jury/prosecutor should in theory be willing to take time and guide you through the process, but in practicality they're all behind on their caseload and stopping to explain everything wastes so much time and they'd rather you just fucking paid for someone who knows what to say and when. It's exactly the same argument as hiring an electrician. You could do the electrical work yourself, that is absolutely true. But it will take longer and you'll buy stuff you don't need and you'll have to try things over again, it'll be a learning process. It's that, but the court system plays the role of your wife watching you do all that shit and waste all that money and living without electricity, when she knows you could afford to just hire a guy who would get it done in an afternoon.

So it is just the basic annoyance of watching the minutes of your life wither away as some idiot tries to navigate the complex system of courtroom procedure and law for the first time, when he could've just hired someone who knows that they're doing and saved everyone a shitload of time.

Now it is still an indictment of the system that it cannot be easily navigated by a random citizen and the system doesn't have time or space to let a citizen navigate through it. If laws and courts cannot be navigated by a citizen of average intelligence without professional help, that means the laws and courts are too complicated. It doesn't just create this dangerous class of experts, it also makes accusations almost as bad as convictions; the state should have to prove something to hurt you.
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The average person has no idea how laws and the legal system works. The kikes took over law schools about 100 years ago and law schools don't teach law as much a process.
Prosecutors are the scum of the earth. They will do anything to get a win. Much of what the system does is collect revenue. Where do you think those heafty fines go? It is in the court's interest to find you guilty.
The legal system is tied to the for-profit prison system.
Lawyers are shit. Even if you pay one they would rather not do the work. They would rather make deals and 'get you off' with reduced sentance or fines.
Best thing to do is stay out of court. Next best is to find a lawyer who will keep you out of court.
There are ways to beat them without stepping in to court without a lawyer, but it takes serious time to learn.
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>>533354294
modern law seems to be more about what you can prove and frame rather than explain what actually happened
a lawyer is a shield, if you represent yourself there is an emotional and social contract broken and it makes you seem crazy
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>>533354294
a ton of midwits are now doing self-law with AI-generated petitions and procedural memos
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>Why
Cause they are all friends. You defending yourself means you didn't hire one of them.
>But they still get their kickback
Only the judge the defense lawyer gets shafted.



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