They're bringing this out now so everyone will forget how all the hot girls hate men now

>>533382391
kill jews, expell niggers and take away foids voting privileges

incentives?
like being able to convert time into labour and then convert that labour into house/family?
that process is broken
very few decent jobs left
if you do get a decent job, like engineer
you face the second problem, female choice saturation and artificial elevation of females
so you take what you get and you get to the third problem
your used goods woman who settled for you now divorces you
so now everything you worked for is gone
and you are welcome to try step two again
tldr: even if you “win” you lose in other words, it’s rigged

>>533382391
create a mens group. facilitate hobbies. grind your way into building a platform for your city that facilitates meetups. the big social networks dont do it well enough, so dont even think like you are competing against them, or that they solve the issues. they dont.

you can get grants and funding for it. 'mental health initiatives' the government funding is available for you to personally tackle and solve these towns in your locality.
and old money in your community would be willing to help too, they believe in the legacy of their town, they want their kids to stay in the town they have influence in. not run away to the city.

the first step is to stop thinking like you can solve it for everyone, and focus locally in your town and community, where you can actually have an impact and do some good. also it will take incredible will to power and motivation to achieve this, so you will have to be the most 'motivated' man yourself. if you tried to do something like this, for 1 year, you would become the most connected and popular person in your city. the personal benefits are tremendous, and you would directly be helping hundreds/thousands of sad lonely people.

>>533382708
ok, so you get guys to meet up with used goods women
who work for the govt and have fifteen ex bf’s on their cell phone
now what?
is divorce rape the next part of the story?
thats my favorite part
work your whole life building something and then poof
all gone

>>533382789
you get a bunch of guys not killing themselves, so it's worthwhile.
instead of letting them rot with isolation vices like video gaming, pornography, weed, etc.
you're not going to solve every problem but you're going to make the suffering a bit more bearable. it all takes time. you can't carry the weight of everything on your shoulders. just try to participate and make it better than it was. cant ask for more than that.

>>533382391
gas the kikes

>>533382391
young men should join groups where they train physically and wear uniforms and talk about farming and occultism... wait

>>533382948
so you kick the can down the road a few years?
its amusing to me you didnt even address what i said
even if you get these retards to meet up
women still hold all the cards
if you dont address the rigged game men wont play
you can berate them about porn and weed all day
wont matter
if women have a “nuke marriage and win option”
marriage is not viable for men

>>533383040
if immigration is weaponized
the economy is rigged
and marriage is a womens game
only stupid men keep playing
the smart men have already checked out
or are minimally participating

>>533383040
you are the one kicking the can down the road by not even trying to participate or improve things.
your way of thinking will just make it all worse and continue the decline.
i never said you had to get married i said have a group of friends and stop being a lonely loser on the internet crying about shit.
things will improve when men are not in that isolated state.
the reason women hold all the cards is because things like 'mens only groups' don't exist anymore, where men can talk and socialize and organize. and finally come to the conclusions like 'hey the game is rigged, lets change it'.

you have no solutions whatsoever. you don't even want to play. your line of thinking is what leads to apathetic degeneration.
the reality is women want to get dominated by strong confident men. a man with a big social circle and masculine hobbies fits that role. the reason they fuck around so much is because men are isolated, sad and pathetic, and have a scarcity mindset.

>>533383249
You can't fix modern society it's just two spin locked lies revolving around each other you take care of one lie you're still left with a lie the "social engineers" painted human civilization into a corner and the only way to keep going is to give up and lie

>>533383357
oh or you could unalive the social engineers

>>533382391
make exploring and adventure appealing and accessible to young men. sell them doable travel. little trips and things. camping. something to keep them busy and on the move.

>>533383249
>JUST GET INTO THE RING BOXING IS STILL GOOD EVEN IF YOUR OPPONENT HAS BRASS KNUCKLES
>COME ON WE HAVE TO FIGHT
fuck no, you can storm the beaches of normandie yourself
i dont give a fuck
we have the means to create a proper and just society
so until that happens you and everyone like you can fuck off
im not committing sucidie to win some game that cant be won
not reproducing
not organizing or whatever the fuck
i dont fucking care
this is your problem
i never asked for any of this it was foisted upon me
i just wanted to live my life and be left alone
im stuck here trying to fix society because these assholes
cant even take care of the shit
disgusting backwards people
“intelligent species” my ass
you all would kill each other over a crumb if pussy or bread

shitskin foreigners piling up 4 generations in one house to save rent....crickets

A white guy lives with parents. ..THE GOY ISNT GIVING SHLOMO ANY RENT SHAME HIM NOW !!!

>>533383357
>You can't fix modern society
yeah thats why i said this in my first post

>>533382708
>the first step is to stop thinking like you can solve it for everyone,
who cares about 'modern society' im saying make a tribe and facilitate community events in your little neck of the woods
nothing else is going to work, nothing else matters except you and your friends being healthy and having eachothers backs

>>533383543
I wouldn't trust shrinks they want you in a dress stuffing things in your ass

>>533383543
and the second you do that the glowniggers are crawling up your ass
i dont give a fuck i just want to be left alone
im sick of all these retarded assholes everywhere
let it burn for all i care

>>533383524
>shitskin foreigners piling up 4 generations in one house to save rent.
this is admirable. they are playing the game smart. atomized faggots putting half their salary into rent are doing it wrong.
the future for whites is going to be the same shit, communes and cooperation. theyre just ahead of the game because thats how they've always lived.

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>>533382391
>nothing to explore
>if you're white you have no homeland to enjoy
>war is gay now to the point even women and children can be top soldiers just give them a drone controller
>planets dying
>houses cost half a million dollars
>women hate men
>controlled by tech billionaires who want to financialize everything
>even if we got rid of the billionaires you still have to deal with leftists who are anti human and want to destroy everything that makes a country worth living
>violence is heavily discouraged by the state, women, society in general, even if its justified

there is nothing to live for, nothing to fight for, nothing to die for, being a man is pointless, we live a feminine hugbox panopticon, men are obsolete in modern society, all we are is cannon fodder for retarded authoritarians and feminist democracies,

>>533383666
>"the game" is actually just stealing as much resources for yourself
I thought minorities were supposed to contribute to white society again? no just drag it into oblivion, did socialists ever give a time frame when non whites were suddenly going to start turning a profit for white countries?

>>533383773
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH YOU WILL EAT THE BREAKFAST BURRITO

Motivation to do what?

>>533383773
how is that stealing? the exorbitant rent, cost of housing, and rising inflation is the actual theft here. they are just responding to it in an intelligent way.
whites will have to do the same, or you can fantasize about a dictator coming and solving all your problems (wont happen)

>>533382391
Boomer holocaust. Young men should be going around their nations and rounding up boomers. It will give them a sense of place when they have something to do.

>>533383862
uh spend your small budget on chinese plastic

>>533382391
Make work interesting and meaningful

>>533383919
>how is that stealing
Non whites in western countries is basically the equivalent of an indian standing in line for free samples, eating all of them and shitting himself in the process in front of your kids

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>>533382391
>The money is shit
>The prices are shit
>The jobs are shit
>The buildings are shit
>The taxes are shit
>The women are shit
>The people ("old" and "new Europeans" alike) are shit
>The selective tyranny of bureaucracy is shit
>The education is shit
>The healthcare is shit
>The urban density is shit
>The roads and parking are shit
>The laws are shit
>The internet access is shit
>The music and entertainment is shit
>The camping is shit
>The weather is usually shit
Everything here is shit. The last time the UK was any good is probably 1940. The ONLY opportunity for a young man here is on the internet, and even that is shit. You can't MOVE for getting told off by some smarmy cuntbag. This place is a fucking neo-soviet shithole even if you're doing well in life. We live in the maggot ridden corpse of a dilapidated former tourist attraction. Everything here is either a humiliation ritual or a scam. There's a reason everyone in the UK is a porn addict, there's absolutely nothing else to do here other than work yourself to death for nothing.

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>>533382391
The decline of men approaching women functions like a political shock even when nobody frames it that way.
It reshapes family formation. Fewer approaches mean fewer relationships, later marriages, lower birth rates, and accelerating demographic decline. That feeds directly into labor shortages, pension stress, immigration politics, and generational conflict. Governments can pass incentives but they cannot legislate attraction or courage.

Second, it polarizes gender politics. Many women interpret non-approach as disinterest or resentment while many men experience it as rational risk avoidance shaped by social sanction, economic precarity, and fear of misreading norms. Each side builds narratives about the other and political movements harvest those grievances.

Third, it weakens informal social trust. Approaching a stranger used to be a low-level civic act that trained people to tolerate rejection, ambiguity, and difference. When that disappears, people retreat into apps, algorithms, and identity-filtered spaces which harden group boundaries and reduce empathy.

Fourth, it shifts power to platforms and institutions. Dating apps, HR departments, and legal frameworks mediate intimacy that used to be negotiated face to face. That concentrates cultural authority in systems optimized for liability management and profit, not human bonding.

Finally, it produces downstream radicalization. Large populations of unattached men historically correlate with instability, withdrawal, or extremist politics. Most do not become violent but many disengage from civic life, work, and optimism itself which is politically corrosive.

>>533384004
even men that are “winning”
top job top income good genes etcetera
are still under a capricious anti male system
so they arent “winning” they are just losing less hard
case in point customer at mt work is engineer in late 30s going through divorce
most men dont even have the option of divorce rape because insufficient income
so even the “winners” just lose more slowly i guess you could say
the “losers” are just emracing reality with less delusions of granduer

>>533384145
Yeah I don't think the complete destruction of marriage by jews is brought up. If women are perfectly equal to men they shouldn't get all the benefits they do. That's one of those lies that society tells you. Women are perfectly equal to you in every way, actually they're better, and they need tons of welfare and fake jobs, you know what they also need half your salary.

The redpill is that if the socialists were right, and minorities and women are equal to men, then society wouldn't be collapsing. Minorities and women are supposed to be creation interstellar travel right now but they can't even manage to keep boomer legacy businesses making products

>>533382708
>Muh circlejerk mens group hug
This isn't fixing anything and men instinctively know it, so they don't participate. Idk what you're all like in Canada, but this especially won't fly in the UK, not without a political motivation that will immediately get them shut down and convicted anyway.

>>533382391
my best advice would be to get off /pol/ because this place is just a pit of "last man" who find comfort in their rotting.
they're not your peers, they are crabs in a bucket. go touch grass, lower your cost of living, get a part time job instead of working fulltime. spend all your time trying to work on the shit i wrote about ITT.
whining on /pol/ will give you literally nothing and make it much worse for you, personally.
>>533384276
>socializing is a circlejerk
case in point

>>533383040
>>533383198
He must be 18 and a half or something

>>533382693
>female choice saturation and artificial elevation of females
Somebody explain this to me like I'm 5 years old. I don't think it's real. I don't think any company says "Here's a competent male, but let's take an incompetent female." The male maybe had the right technical skills but not the right management skills to be promoted. Or he is constantly butting heads with management, so why give him MORE power. Or he's cruising and doesn't want to contribute more than necessary.

For example, the majority of attorneys now are women. But "attorney" just means you graduated law school. Much different from actually working at a law firm or starting a practice. The law profession is infamous for how many people have law degrees but were never able to find work and so they fell back on their bachelor's. There are accountants, supervisors, entrepreneurs, and more (many female) who have JD degrees. They just couldn't find legal work that made the right money, or had the right work life balance, or even gave them a chance based on interview.

>>533384352
By saying women are equal to men as lawyers you're lowering your standards for lawyers immediately

Women cops are perfectly equal to male cops, okay your law enforcement sucks now, see how that works?

>>533382391
Ban vidya
Ban anime
Ban weed
Limit screen time
Masturbate less
Get an early night

>>533384415
This just leads to you and your kike masters being eradicated.

>>533383682
>>even if we got rid of the billionaires you still have to deal with leftists who are anti human and want to destroy everything that makes a country worth living
noooo I can't be openly racist and kill niggers, the country is literally destroyed

>>533384145
Agree completely. In fact, being a successful man is its own risk, as you have a target on your back. If you're "low status" people just disregard you as invisible. If you're attractive and wealthy, people suspect you of everything, misrepresent you and are out to destroy you and distribute your robes amongst themselves.

>>533382391
Probably more in reality.
UK is cooked for those under 30.

>>533384352
>implying an organic contest between employees where the best rises to the top
can you show me where this exists outside professional athletics or the highest levels of any profession?
what actually happens is corporations and govts
decide to replace natives and flood the country with immigrants
so they use anti competitive practices to fuck with the locals
does that answer your question?
there is no competition or contest occurring
thats why things are so bad because
idiots are jumped up and can never be fired
or disciplined in any meaningful way
so you get the competency crisis because muh diversity
and muh “market”god
“invisible hand” going numb
giving you a “stranger”

>>533384527
I would posit being "successful" in modern society attracts a lot of psychopaths rather than actually intelligent people

>>533384527
well said they say rich men have zero real friends because people all want their money
but i dont have friends or money so rather be rich

>>533384647
a fair point but having emotions about a criminally retarded world
may be nothing more than self sabotage

>>533384352
Deloitte has pre screening and competency tests for juniors. But women regularly skip it and get put immediately in front of the manager. Yes having tits and a pussy in 2026 is life on easymode.

>>533384352
>I don't think any company says "Here's a competent male, but let's take an incompetent female."
They do though. The systemic racism against whites/asians goes deeper than you think. There are countless government grants, subsidies, and other financial incentives for hiring and promoting "underrepresented minorities" and women (have to exclude the asians somehow). That's after you were fucked at college admissions and most likely all throughout your earlier education too due to misandrist teachers.

>>533384317
Everything you write is correct. However it is also cope and gay. You can socialise as much as you want, idgaf, but it is still escapism from the reality of disintegrating civilisation. My point was that socialising in the UK is so shit that nobody WANTS to, they'd rather sit inside on their phones, it's that bad. I've been to Canada, you guys have tonnes of space (very beautiful country, congrats) and are fake-nice all the time, and you don't understand our humour. Here, we live on top of each other, everyone is a prick 24/7, and Big Brother is ALWAYS watching your every move. It's claustrophobic to say the least. If I lived in Canada, I would fuck off semi-innawoods and buy a shack.

>>533384679
Exactly the point, if "nothing matters" in modern society but how many e-bucks you have and most of that system is based on the average person being too ignorant to learn it, society is just going to naturally fill with low IQ psychopaths

>>533384591
even at the highest levels you still have muh token “diversity”
>OMG FIRST GIRL CFO EVER BREAKING RECORDS
>she is a completely incompetent retard skimming money off the top
>BUT SHE HAS A VAGINA YOU BIGOT

>>533382391
>How do we instil more motivation into men?

Remove the jew

>>533384735
go outside its all browns or racemixers
how can someone stomach that?

>>533384414
I heard this exact argument on a police podcast. I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt, assuming his subtext was "let's make sure police of ANY gender are the best they can be." As opposed to being a backwards retard.

There are male cops who are hotheads and deviants. There are male cops who go to their tools (taser, gun) too fast. There are male cops who don't have the discernment to wait for backup and try to be macho. There are male cops who are not physically stronger than some suspects (and if a firearm is involved, physicality goes out the window).

The police argument in particular is just leftover boys' club shit. Obviously don't hire Tamara TikTok, who just wants to twerk with her badge and gun on her ass. But a 29 year old girl who was in the Navy for 7 years? I'm pretty sure she's more qualified to be a cop than 80% of men on this board, without knowing anything else about her.

I appreciate that you have a position regarding public safety. But I respectfully disagree.

>>533384647
Good point, regrettably. We live in end stage society, run by effeminate retards for the benefit of psychopaths.

>>533384781
and the people who were sociopathic
look around and realize that sociopathy works
and they staet self isolating and pleasure maxing

>>533384822
Real, especially here

Why should I pay an extra ~2500 a month just to live alone?

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>>533382481
Fucking this. Not even just the hot ones. Any woman 4+/10 thinks she’s an unironic princess
>how can they all be princesses?
Each of them thinks they’re the one true princess in a world of other women LARPing.

>>533384824
lol why would a woman be in the military? god you are retarded
you must be a retired LEO receiving a pension

>>533384824
>Well I know an xyz who isn't like that at all
Way to out yourself, madam

i moved away when i was 19
should have done it when i was 16
do these guys think their life is gonna get better when they are still living with their parents past 20?

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>>533382391
>learned helplessness article
ZOG really wants anons to Seppuku

>>533384857
were not*

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>>533382693
>incentives
Hahahahaha literally never. Not for any reason.

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>>533382391
>How do we instil more motivation into men?
Give us back that which was taken from us. Our manifest destiny. Men were born to climb mountains and carve our names into their sides, not be tax cattle cannon fodder who exist merely to prop up some fake and gay feminised "liberal democracy" engineered by jews. None of this is natural. No shit we're not bothered about taking part in what is essentially a century-long bad joke.

>>533384954
haha jews sure are greedy

>>533384591
Most companies I've ever worked at were more white than demographics would dictate. For example, in a big city that's 40% minority, you'd think 40% of coworkers would be minority. They weren't. They were like 10% minority.

So, back to my original point, the argument that white guys are predestined to fail is, itself, a psyop and not reality.

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>>533384883
The damage was done 20 years ago. There is no repairing this generation.
>Ok men, what do you want? How can we make you come back to the plantation?
All they want now is to be left alone and for everyone else to fuck off. You MIGHT be able to fix it long term by not psychologically abusing the next generation of boys for the first 20 years of their existence, but there is no putting the genie back in the bottle with the current crop.

>>533385015
there is systemic discrimination against white males
fact

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>>533382391
if you don't look like this what's the point of trying?

>>533385056
I think it might be an actual woman lol

>>533384708
>regularly skip it and get put immediately in front of the manager
Based on what? And does this happen for men?

I'm not arguing for women. I'm tired of this quitter mentality. If you have facts, let's hear them. If not, do better, work smarter, and stop bitching. Christ.

>>533383249
cope and seethe, 0 incentive for white men to contribute to the current society.

>>533385099
i have shit to do dont have time for you pedantic games
i need to go earn profit for jews

>>533382391
My parents live with ME, chud.

>>533385124
>meritocracy
where is it?

Give me a loyal virgin gf that loves me

>>533384525
>dont be racist white man
>but everyone else gets to be racist and when they take over they will oppress you

See this is what i mean you western leftists are stupid all other the world if you arent the majority you get oppressed, why would it be any different here? white society is a unnatural blip in time its not the next step in society

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>>533384890
>Any woman 4+/10 thinks she’s an unironic princess

They go online and are flooded with praise from bot accounts and indian needle-dicks, woman are simple creatures, they don't understand how having 50 million angry young men in their country while they pretend to be a D-list celebrity isn't sustainable

>>533382391
import more niggers from rape countries

>>533384841
Right, it's almost as if all of society has been constructed so low IQ embezzling scheming coin clipping retards can easily get ahead by setting aside morality

>>533385124
>If you're homeless, just buy a house
You don't understand what the male experience is like because you haven't experienced it

>>533385140
>t. brownoid running some demoralization

again, just another reason to leave /pol/ no one on here is your friend, you don't know any of them. just endless people telling you how hopeless it is because things aren't being handed to them.

>>533384731
Asian makes an A. White makes a B. Black makes C.

The white and black both still pass. There's an acceptable RANGE.

Think of it in terms of attractiveness. Do you look for women this way: She has to be 5'5", weigh 120lbs., have brown hair, green eyes, D breasts." Or do you look for women this way: "She has to be fuckable and comparable in attractiveness to me."

The point is: There's a RANGE of possible candidates.

If your argument is "White guys should just run everything and disregard everybody else, ok?" Or you're trying to out me as liberal or something. Then whatever.

>>533385435
I mean what scenario is a police force of all white guys better off with minorities

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>>533383682
> violence is discouraged by the state, women, & society.

Jesus fucking christ bro. Re-read this over and over until you realize how pathetic you are compared to what you came from. Literally a nation created through a brutal Brother-war over a taxation of less than 2%.
You REALLY think you have nothing to fight for? Look at your list you idiot. YOU IDIOT. YOU, and I mean YOU (Man behind this loser doomerpost) can change everything on that list.
You and every other doomer chud are literally descended from ancient chuds who tore up society and their dumb women THOUSANDS of times. This is just another fall of rome, no biggie.

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>>533383919
> (wont happen)
Whites will have to do this.
They will not just let us live.

>>533382391
Wasting half your salary on rent or a third while living with strangers is the dumbest shit. I'm 35 still living with my parents and wouldn't change that unless I get a properly paid job (lmao) or get married, which is probably never happening. I pity those who don't have loving parents.

>>533385647
I don't know I can see white flight 2.0 and 3.0 as society chases them into the woods begging them to come back to their cities and be taxed

>>533384525
This but unironically

>>533384352
It depends on what positions we're talking about. Women are absolutely favored for all desk jobs, which preserve one's body and mind to a larger extent than having to engage in a competitive, low-yield private environment or just blue collar work, making women already privileged. Then when it comes to highly skilled labor, such as engineering, programing, medicine and so on, the system works by offloading female incompetence onto men. I worked in such an environment for 4.5 years with zero improvements; in fact it got worse as women got put in charge of the department. The men were doing all the work requiring competency and the women were along for the ride doing work, but not problem-solving work, but work that has a beginning and end. Lets not get into pregnancies, paid sick leave every now and then and years of absence where work is offloaded onto men. And even then, every single person in the business or on the street is more likely to take their out on you or get into a conflict with you than they're with a woman. If you flip on them and return in measure, you get the stick, both financial and career-wise.

>>533382391
>no jobs
>economy crashing
>housing market fucked
And they wonder why young people choose to live at home instead of goving half their pay to kikelord ?

>>533384259
Are you like babby's first redpill or something?
In the year 2026?

Did you really EVER believe that women and niggers would magically make our world some kind of perfect utopia?

>>533385572
>you really think you have nothing to fight for?
yes its over, you simply cannot make america white again, you cant unbrainwash 200 million white people, the concept of white america or white europe is over, the best one can hope for is craving out a small ethnic enclave after non whites take over and genocide a large part of the white population, basicallly a white israel

>>533385782
It's hard for non whites and women to conceptualize that their existence in this world now was supposed to deliver a unifying utopia and infinite resources and the fact that the entire world is actually sliding into the abyss is a refutation of the last 100 years of politics

>>533384896
Because she's a person who also lives in America. Would you want women saying you're under 6'3", so you don't deserve sex? That would be unacceptable to you. Yet you do the same to them saying "you have a vagina, so you can't stand for your country."

>>533384912
But the issue really is lazybrain white guys who view women and minorities as a monolith. They hire a dreadlocked weed addict or a literal fucking prostitute and say "pain in the ass hired, quota met, next task." Like hire QUALITY people. Is it that fucking difficult and arduous.

Westoid problems. Most live with their parents forever here.

>>533386159
Well if state schooling taught classes on how great it was to fuck and suck and have kids and how completely pointless school is they wouldn't get as many slaves out of it

>>533385056
Ok? There's discrimination against everyone. Literally every demographic has filed a discrimination case and won.

You're saying "the sky is blue, I win." Good job.

I'm saying, this idea that white guys are discriminated against - like actually, tangibly fucked over - to the level of women or minorities is HILARIOUS. But there are people who truly believe it.

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>>533385015
Your antecedotal report does nothing but reinforce the fact that there is discrimination. In a city that's 60% white there should be plenty of businesses 100% white. But you wont find ONE.
I also don't believe you.

There is HUGE discrimination against white straight males in the western world; from employment, to academia, to representation; shouldering the 'benefits' of diversity to trade away all they've built.

Show tits

>>533386312
You probably shouldn't be able to sue for discrimination

>>533385170
>Buzzwords
Again, you're arguing "mainstream ruins everything" while using mainstream podcast words and examples.

>critical thinking skills
Where are they

>>533386396
Society gives women a handicap therefore there no such thing as a meritocracy, we live in a socialized welfare system for minorities to pretend to be white men

>>533386315
There are zero white mens groups on meetup.com and facebook, hundreds of black and latino mens groups

>>533385352
I've lived the experience of being a man in a country governed by provable facts in a codified law context. Saying "Women get everything! It's not fair!" is meaningless in such a context. But if it feels good to say it, that's a different conversation.

I'm having a conversation about facts. Not what "seems to be" or what "feels right." Those things are called "opinions."

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>>533385784
> White enclave
Yep. That's pretty much it. Most of us will perish, almost certaintly including you; YOU ARE one of the brainwashed ones. Engineered to not fight for anything. Engineered to TOLERATE. To take it up the A and boo hoo.

Yeah, except you actually can unbrainwash MILLIONS of people. A certain mustached man did it nearly 90 years ago. And it happens all the time. People's brainwashing remain adherent to the social norms, and norms break down when people are living right, eating, having fun, having relationships.

So many doomers in this thread. Yet, as things get worse, do you really think these aren't CRACKS in a system so massive, so sensitive to butterfly effects?
Are we truly ruled by perfect, errorless beings of supreme judgement and strategy? Or sociopathic emotionally unstable inbreeds divorced from the world with flights of talmudic fantasy and insane greed?

GET A GRIP GOYIM!

>>533382391
by legalising guns so I can shoot myself

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>>533386312
Affirmative Action was the law of the land until students for fair admission V Harvard overturned the law in 2023
Under the Affirmative Action you could have two students with the exact same test score, the one checking the box saying he was Asian would get a 21% acceptance rate while the other checking the box saying he was black would get an 80% acceptance rate

>>533386546
>live in a world where everybody is pretending to be you
>they aren't you and suck
>you're supposed to play with them and encourage them
>while the government lies on TV and says how great everything is
>as 10,000 people drive by you on the street in 2 minutes
LOL it's literally a waking nightmare

>>533386546
You are continuously misrepresenting everyone else’s arguments while LARPing as a man for “credibility”
It is painfully obvious what you are and why you are here when you also continuously spout feminist talking points. You keep trying to play this bizarre middle ground
>im totally reasonable and stuff so just explain it
>nevermind i dont like that explanation, i feel like its different and here’s an anecdote about my own life
>also [feminist talking points #3]
>also im a man btw

>>533386605
stop the fucking gen X cope bullshit
hitler only had to convince germans he wcould restore their pride and country to what it was pre WW1, he didn't have to deal with 50% of the country being foreigners, you're doing a right wing version of what the left does where it compares everything to hitler and world war two, the world has changed, NOTHING is comparable to hitlers time, ok, there is no saving white people or saving europe, its done. go actually talk to white people, read studies and polls on the matter, white people TO THIS DAY do not care about becoming a minority

>>533382686
And you will still be a loser.

>>533382391
>>533382481
Only with virgin fertile loyal pussy.

Even if there was a method of motivation, it won't be done because the jews that rule the system don't want motivation and solidarity cause that would cause people to work together to kill their actual oppressors. What they want is chattel slaves from broken third world countries that can be easily expended and ununited. Cause to them they think the quality wouldn't be important cause they got robots and ai for the "high quality" stuff while the goys work with shit and will probably remain unfocused.

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>>533386688
She doesn’t give a fuck
>that didn’t happen
>if it did it wasn’t that bad
>if it was, I didn’t mean it
>if I did, you deserved it
She’ll cycle through that all thread, as our designated henpecker for this discussion.

>>533386794
That's another thing, society apparently WANTS to turn into idiocracy, and that's fine. If the entire fate of humanity was to interbreed and get dumber and collapse the entire ecology of the planet with hyper intensive farming that's hilarious, go humies.

>>533382693
I live in the same world, not experiencing anywhere the same issues. Maybe you need to start hanging out with winners instead of the same pity party who keeps reinforcing these dumb beliefs like the game being rigged.

>>533382391
Nothing wrong with living with your parents, I am engaged and still live with my mom. I am also 36.

>>533386915
Which "game" exactly?

everything's expensive and work doesn't pay enough, no one's interested in this rigged society and they are right not to, they just want to whip white men to keep exploiting them so they can house infinite pakis and give them welfare, smart to not support a system so corrupt.

>>533386794
What is gen X about this? what?
You should talk to a zoomer normie you idiot. unless you live in a liberal commie hellhole 1/3 love hitler and dunk of jews; and that's down to the youngest ones man.
Just GO OUTSIDE GODDAMNNIT. Normies can literally whitepill you now. Hot chicks laugh at kike jokes, start with Israel then warm em up it's dead fucking easy brother. Quit being a blackpilled loser, if all you have to offer is offing yourself then shut up and DO IT FAG.

That's also why I recommended that a seperation would occur, The United States itself is dead. It'll fracture. Too many competing interests and complex systems buckling under a lack of competence and manpower.

>>533384352
Kek, are you really that naive?

1. DEI hiring, not sure if trump stopped that.
2. Older boomer managers hire women because:
2A. They can fuck much younger women
2B. Their position isn’t threatened by a woman

>>533382789
You’re setting yourself up for loss before you even get started. If you’re already so sure how the show is going to end, why not leave early instead of shit bombing the rest us who haven’t seen the show yet.

>>533387036
>go outside and meet women they will whitepill you about the jews they heard from twitter
are you retarded
>the US is dead
lol

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/181629/dc-yoga-teachers-of-color-respond-to-white-womans-whites-only-meetup-group-experiment/

>coalburner white woman decides to clone black only groups on meetup.com but for whites instead of blacks
>community uproar, meetup.com takes them down
>there are zero white groups on meetup.com, but there are groups for every other race, for jews, for lgbtq, etc

Can you imagine if there was a white men's group? Would be so fun

>>533386159
The quality of the preferentially selected but less qualified cabdidate is irrelevant to the qualified white man who was dispelled.

>>533386967
Life. That literally everyone else has a say and controls it but you.

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>>533384352
> Explain this to me like i'm 5 years old.
> Appeal to internal social status, appeal to society's norms
> Appeal to corporations
> Naive optimism
> Listens to podcasts

Me'thinks this is a female.

>>533387154
So we should dumb down the qualifications to ensure a White man gets the job? You should run a business on that model and see how that works out for you.

>>533387170
The state has socially engineered all of society to be a bubble rap meme for minorities, that's what the state is selling. They're selling you 1 american lifetime, all you have to do is play their game, which is.... endless taxation and labor while they steal your kids and brainwash them to be anti racists for 18 years

>>533387036
so you admit that the country is over yet you're here acting like its not, make up your mind, also,. the women laughing at jew jokes are doing it from a leftist prespective, they dont hate JEWS they hate israel because its a ''white settler colonialist state''

>>533387095
The only solution is mass genocide of all non-white "people", including the bitch's demonspawn children.

>>533387258
What the fuck are you even on about?
To your point, however, the entire country is collapsing because of the inverse, lowering standards to include dumbass DEI shit in every possible nook and cranny

>>533382391
After spending 4 decades tearing men down and destroying family values? Things will never be normal until all they synagogue of Satan is annihilated

>>533385723
>It depends on what positions we're talking about. Women are absolutely favored for all desk jobs
Too vague to be useful. A $17/hr. part-time receptionist is a desk job. A $45/hr. financial analyst is a desk job. Can you tell me, factually, women are preferred for both? If not, then shut the fuck up. Seriously. Politely. Stop when you have no information. It's actual incel behavior.

>the system works by offloading female incompetence onto men. I worked in such an environment for 4.5 years
And I worked as a chemist for a small industrial company. My boss was a hetero feminine woman. She rode harder than all the men. She treated me with respect. Again, you're forming factually incorrect opinions based on an incomplete picture.

>The men were doing all the work requiring competency and the women were along for the ride
This IS a real issue. Talk to your boss about possibly a more equitable division of labor. The issue here is you didn't speak up, not that women did something wrong. A criminal will commit crime. But if our society lets them without recourse, it becomes our fault for our victimhood, not the criminals'

>>533385723
(Continued)

>Lets not get into pregnancies, paid sick leave every now and then and years of absence
Workplace rights? Men have them too. And "years of absence" is yet again you being ignorant and not knowing what you're talking about. There are cases you can look up right now where employers were VALIDATED BY JUDGES in firing a female employee because her absence would have prevented her from doing the job. I'm not getting into the details of the legal criteria, you can find them yourself. But you're alarmist, painting it like "WOMEN CAN JUST SKIP WORK FOR YEARS AND GET PAID BECAUSE VAGINA AHHHH." That is 100% false. It's simply wrong information, from you.


>every single person in the business or on the street is more likely to take their out on you or get into a conflict with you than they're with a woman
The vast majority of violent criminals are men. The vast majority of workplace sexual assaults - not comments, not touching, SEXUAL ASSAULTS - happen to women. You're just fumbling for words to express "women bad!"

>>533387267
Must suck being the victim all the time- can’t be an asshole without being called out on it. Such a sad affair. Oh the absolute horror that my kids would judge another human based upon deed and character rather than primarily skin color alone.

>>533387567
>hey boss, these women suck and aren't doing their job
>yeah that's like, normal? also you're fired

>>533387567
This is the most ridiculous shit, ma’am. Is your PAC’s plan really just the narcissism gaslight? No concessions, just the normal woke push after initially pretending to “just be reasonable and want an explanation”?

>>533386605
>A certain mustached man did it nearly 90 years ago. And it happens all the time.
That was an entirely different circumstance. The communists were open and flagrant about their intentions and flew banners. The people Hitler convinced were masculine veterans with a unified sense of nation that was insulted and they were only 1 generation removed from agrarian self sufficiency. Good luck trying to pull the same shit after 50 years of intitutionalised muttification, deracination and economic state dependency. The world you - we - want is gone and it isn't coming back. Enclaves are our best bet, maybe a reconquista in 100 years time.

>>533387258
You are retarded. They ARE lowering the standards NOW for women and minorities preferentially, and inversely RAISING them for white men, with the exception of unskilled and skilled blue collar work, because only white men know how to keep the lights on and the water potable.

>>533387587
Lady, just fucking stop. Nobody is buying this fuckin’ garbage
Get a strategy written by a man.

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>>533387368
Who fucking gives a fuck about countries bro?
Awww you care about the stars and stripes?
Civ nats perish first.
Care about your race you idiot.
America will fall, but the white man marches on. Divorced from the parasite, we'll simply rise again. If you don't believe that inherently, you need to get in touch with it broskii.

>>533387368
And? Women don't think that much into it man. If you are being funny, and they like you, you can get them to laugh at holohoax stories. Done it before, they love the holocoasters lmao.
Do you NOT realize how big of a fuck up that is for them? You can't shift the conversation to how ISRAEL, A JEWISH ETHNOSTATE FOLLOWING JEWISH LAWS AND JEWISH RELIGION and you cant put that into a conversation about what they do here?

BREAK THE CONDITIONING FOR THEM! THEY'RE FRACTURING! HELP THE NORMIES UNDERSTAND YOU FOOLS!
I'm starting to think i'm the only one who comes here and still has some modicum of social skills.

>>533387606
I wish minorities were actually capable of creating philosophy or something so these decades weren't literally thrown away in a useless hippy experiment. They're not even capable of thinking themselves out of the box the government put them in

>>533382391
why did older generations have more motivation?
because they had:
>greater access to well paid jobs with better conditions
>greater access to women, and better quality women
>greater access to housing
>easier to be sociable
etc..

>>533387587
>>533387567
woman are retarded children, they do not work real jobs, just fake make-work jobs, and boomer hiring managers love them since they think they have a chance of getting in their holes. Boomers are the scummiest, most degenerate generation in history, bunch of fucking faggots that pulled all the ladders up, 75 year old boomer niggers still view 30 year old as their sexual rivals, fucking pieces of shit

>>533384352
It's cope.
Companies don't actually keep useless people on the payroll. Certainly not half their workforce.

>>533387778
The Mexican feminist appears!
>go fuck your husband and quit trying to henpeck anons here
>he will do his part if you stop acting like a faggot and do yours

>>533387732
very true.
kill all boomers.

>>533387857
He could be telling a joke
>there's no way society would ever be convinced to employ half the population which are minorities knowing they suck eggs

>>533387907
I was legitimately gobsmacked to read that shit
>you guys think
>you guys REALLY think
>that a CORPORATION
>would do something inefficient??

>>533387399
DEI was out the window 18 months ago. Next thing you’ll be doing is blaming Biden for the war in Iran. Yeah, the quality of this country is slipping but it has nothing to do with white supremacist memes, and everything to do with the treacherous bastards divvying up this nation and handing int out to billionaires rather than investing in the people that put them there.

You’re being distracted if you think Juan from Puerto Rico has more influence on your life than Bezos, Gates, or Trump.

They act like this is bad but it's actually great, dad doesn't have to goysize, we can pay the upkeep on the house now, I've been eyeing vacant lots in my area to buy with my extra income now from not paying rent / a mortgage, and I'm gonna buy some plots to grow berries and fruit trees in.
>>533383773
>Living with parents in a family house is "stealing"
It's the opposite, said houses are stronger, more united, create a better culture than atomized people, and are more efficient.
The whole "bro live alone or with one other person" thing is only possible in boomer america, which destroyed society. It's an economic pipe dream to have your own massive house you don't need because there's nobody living in the rooms, the reality is that big houses are more efficient, big properties are more efficient, and families working in big units is just a better way to run society.

Single-family houses single-generation were invented to raise tax revenue, if everyone has their own house they have to constantly build new ones because the old ones fall apart from lack of maintenance, plus each single-generation house will give more income than two generations living together. Double the houses to tax, yay!

>>533384352
men dont see women as competition.
its safer to hire a woman over a man, even if her work is 40% the quality of the man's, especially when it comes to companies that have monopolised their industry or have secured long term government contracts.

>>533382391
remove the jewish parasites

>>533388028
>DEI was out the window 18 months ago
Really? All those woke tenure professors and DEI judges with for life positions got kicked out of power? WOW. I didn’t hear about that. You’d think I would have
>blablabla blame Biden for iran
Shut the fuck up you direction brain dicknose. I put blame where blame is due. Trump is a fuckup but you’re just the same, you little AIPAC funded fuck.

>>533388028
DEI is an overarching cultural meme from 200 years ago which freed the niggers claiming they were men and not subhumans.

Have you ever studied the origins of feminism I promise you it's pathetic

>>533388067
That's why I said allow trannies in the olympics

>>533387857
Cope.
If you're so sure that businesses pay half its employees to do nothing, then the obvious solution is to start your own business and only hire capable people.
You'll be a huge success.

>>533385384
im white faggot, i suspect your probably an indian tho given your flag.

>>533388191
Just fuck your husband, retard. You live a more pathetic life than actual incels, bitching at White guys for the mistakes of your brown husband while living in a dirt hovel.

>>533388191
Ever heard of the zombie economy? yeah that's DEI

>>533388123
I don't have an issue with trannies in the women's olympics because the women's olympics are a joke.
Seeing the best human in the world at something has merit, but idgaf about the best human with a handicap/vagina.

>>533386605
>pic
You couldn't pay me to be around a modern woman every day. 1930s women? I would pay to marry her.

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>>533382391
Beats homelessness hands down.
Cull the Buckingham palace blights.
Redistribute royal stolen hoarded wealth.

>>533388252
You're making up a story, to cope with not being able to give a valid explanation for the jew daycare theory.
Anyone asks for an explanation, and you turn into Carl the cuck. Are you kidding me?! You want me to explain it. It's obvious you're a feminist!
>>533388254
Fight the zombie economy then. Open your business. Hire the competent. Be a huge success. Your competition uses double their required workforce. You can offer a better service, and price.

>>533388616
As long as you understand that being a feminist is a negative thing and equivalent to an insult, it’s all good.

>>533382391
Men should hunt race traitor cunts.

>>533388616
>Open a business to fight DEI in a society where every woman and minority alive can sue you for that
Okay

>>533387606
Don't you have any Reddit posts to upvote?

>>533384954
You can tell those solutions came from a consensus of women. They clearly have zero understanding of what it means when a man has truly checked out.

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Reminder

>>533388709
As long as you get to keep your narrative, all is fine.
So, cope.

>>533388937
There are no laws forcing you to make half your workforce be female.
You're a lying faggot.

>>533389051
Uh yeah? Global society is based around putting women and minorities in schools, dumbing everything down so everyone can pass, and then giving them fake jobs a microwaved rock could do

>people act like generational homes weren't a thing for fucking ever
>the whole idea of everyone needs to move out and buy their own home was something that only started becoming common practice in the last 100 years

>>533388978
Missing the part about taxes funding AI

>Someone has to pay for my data center's government grants

>>533389278
>Socialist government subsidizes housing ownership
>Nobody can afford a house
Hey dei works yall

>>533388616
>Fight the zombie economy then. Open your business
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78vqj99168o
What is the actual point? I applaud businesses for desperately trying to chug along, but it is fruitless stress for nothing.

>>533389142
truth is you couldnt make a business even if you wanted to. just keep rotting defeatist manchild

>>533389952
Right I don't want to make a business because modern society is evil and I don't care. Maybe society should be less evil? Maybe you should make a business to promote diversity since you love being evil so much

>>533390031
>Maybe society should be less evil?
holy beta, kek. whatever you have to say to convince yourself that you will have no power and no friends, forever, and that's a good thing.

https://youtu.be/5SqL6HpxBNA
>literally just pick up peoples trash and get paid under the table
>WOMEN AND MINORITIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

>>533382391
look the eternal *nglo/kike boomer hating his kids so much he kicks them out at 18!
there's literally no need to move out if/until you get married and start having kids
(((landlords))) tongue my anus

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>>533382391
Men need to Stirnermaxx.

>>533390237
Can you tell me why a person like me that doesn't like evil needs power and influence in modern society?

>>533390288
if you're not going to fight it and make things better you have no right to complain and the "evil" people should torture you forever, justly.

>>533384004
>>533384145
these anons get it
>>533384259
have you ever looked at israeli divorce laws and lack of paternity rights?

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>>533386215
Not that we have a choice (other than to emigrate).

>>533390418
How could I possibly fix society by inventing a new widget? Lol, or selling gloves. You fool

>>533390524
The real question is, "WHY would you fix society by doing anything?" What's in it for you? You owe s()yciety something?

>>533386215
this but unironically
>>533390444
westoids have kids because they're expected to, hate them and kick them out once they reach 18 (especially their boys)

>>533390589
Nah "fixing society" is apparently creating more taxable income lololllofkdnwidm

>>533390524
you would never be able to, thats just a fantastical excuse you make up to convince yourself rotting is preferable, because you're afraid of trying. it's pathetic. just accept that you are pathetic, don't pretend like it's some morally righteous crusade.
>>533390589
because the alternative, where you just cry on the internet about life being unfair, is much, much worse.

>>533390247
To be fair, I don't understand how someone can get married after spending their entire twenties chronically celibate because they've been living with their parents, but somehow, balkangutans have a higher TFR than other basement-dwelling medlings. You idea makes sense if that time until marriage is around the age of 22, not 32.

>>533390657
>You should open a business so the government can tax you, that's how to make society better
You're a pajeet

>>533390647
>westoids have kids because they're expected to, hate them and kick them out once they reach 18 (especially their boys)
Southoids and eastoids also do it because of normie.script, but they somehow don't hate their children.

>>533390656
Always think in a mercenary fashion and stop wasting your braincells arguing what makes a good society or not. Literally not your job to worry about that.

>>533390657
I'm against both, though.

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>>533390725
don't worry about it man you don't have what it takes.
>get paid under the table
just admit you're pathetic and that's why you will rot. pic related is about your life.
i wouldnt let you into my ethnostate btw

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modern western society is just peak christianity.

the problem is the christian moral framework which is inferior to the pagan odinist or hellenist framework.

>>533390867
>I-I'd btfo you in my power fantasy!

>>533390867
>No see I don't report my earnings to the government
So you're just a hypocrite

>>533390712
extended families love to do the partner finding for you if you aren't a truecel, my sister loved meddling in the lives of our single relatives, for example

>>533391014
Good, they can find you a female friend to swap text messages and hold hands in the park with. How does that get you married? You do realize why South and East Europeans are basementmaxxed, right?

>>533390916
its an important distinction to make, people of value don't just give up entirely like he has. i could give him 10 examples of things to do and all he would do is meticulously whine about why each one isnt going to serve his immediate interests and result in massive, instant success and destroy all of his enemies with zero effort.
a person like that isn't worth anything. irl you'd pick on them for being a feminine spaz.

>>533391123
funny how "people of value" is some illiterate pants shitting aboriginal from halfway around the world now

>>533391123
He doesn't need to do shit nor does he need to be "worth something" in the eyes of others. He lives for himself alone and serves his own needs. If you want him to do otherwise, you need to make him a deal he won't refuse. That's le social contract 101 for you. Now go build that Canindian ethnostate you were talking about.

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Imagine how radical Christianity must have been to introduce female slave leadership in a heirarchical male dominated Roman society.

The Romans never gave women the vote.

>>533382391
Easy. Take away video games.

>>533391205
Heavy competition for our local pants shitting illiterates but with a little more world view.

>>533391336
And limit social media.

>>533391122
I know how this shit works.
I even showed my flag in my first post ITT because I found it relevant.

>>533391314
Poor thirdies don't understand philosophical concepts like social contracts. Half of their memory is based on where the best shitting spots are and that memory of their parents being eaten by a hippo

>>533391317
You think pagans didn't have female clergy and intellectual leaders?
>The Romans never gave women the vote.
>Roman empire
>vote

Thanks for your input, English teacher.

Just wait for Israel to need the space. They know how to motivate their men.

>>533382686
>kill jews, expell niggers and take away foids voting privileges
This solves pretty much everything, really.

>>533391317
Women were literally worshipped as Goddesses in Rome and Greece.

>>533391314
no he definitely does need to prove himself, considering he sees me as his peer.
he talks about minorities being his enemies. he accuses me of being a pajeet, racial blood is important to him.
so an ethnostate would be appealing to him, i'm saying that he wouldnt be welcome in mine because he is a coward and a shirker, as are you.
neither of you are going to sweat or sacrifice anything, youll rot, talk shit, be a burden - you don't get to join the winning side magically after.

>>533382391
pussy is mens greatest motivator and it is now reserved for chad only. you cannot fix it.

>>533391576
Come the fuck on you better have an infograph or something. Trannies are more entertaining than whatever you are

>>533391556
No. You simply start running out of people to blame for your failures. Nothing changes otherwise.

>>533382391
Hang all the niggers and turn the jews into soap

>>533391537
>You think pagans didn't have female clergy and intellectual leaders?
They were always beneath men.
Also Romans did have municipal elections during the time of the Empire.

>>533391650
Athena comes to mind…

>>533391673
Listen if you want to roll with the Jews that's fine with me. We gave them citizenship in the 60's. Bunch of commies and their kids

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>>533391576
Goddesses were worshipped as Goddesses.
Women were slaves to men.

>>533391317
Neo-Marxism today is the Christianity of yesterday.

>>533391455
You miss the crucial point: europoors (shorthand for non-germanic euros) are basement dwellers because they cannot afford not to be. They'll marry at 30+ when they'll finally dig themselves out of the rut, but it's a true mystery to me as to why they do it after such a youth.

>>533391606
>no he definitely does need to prove himself, considering he sees me as his peer.
No consequences of him not doing it, so indeed he doesn't.
>so an ethnostate would be appealing to him, i'm saying that he wouldnt be welcome in mine because he is a coward and a shirker, as are you.
Still fantasizing, I see.
>neither of you are going to sweat or sacrifice anything, youll rot, talk shit, be a burden - you don't get to join the winning side magically after.
You're right about the first part, and that's a good thing. Sacrificing is the opposite of winning. Those you sacrifice for are the winners (banks, real-estate companies, government, etc.).

>>533391716
As they were in Christian Rome or later Europe. Now find an adequate thread to post your religious garbage or create one yourself instead of polluting unrelated ones.

>>533391646
Not a Chad, not a self pitying asshole either. Haven’t had to worry about whether I could communicate with women since highschool. Some are very easy to get along with, others can be easily ignored.

>>533391949
>but it's a true mystery to me as to why they do it after such a youth.
I'm with you on that point, I can't see into the heads of normies either. The point is, they still do it, which proves westoid kvetching utterly wrong.

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>>533391940
Essentially. Christianity formed the bedrock for neo-marxism to be built on.

>>533391949
Women rarely lead in Paganism. They just fulfil certain roles.
Women lead in Christianity because Christianity says there is no male nor female.

It's jewish insanity.

>>533392092
I think it's the right dose of balkanimal primitivism which keeps them obedient to the normie.script well into their middle age. They never questioned if it makes sense or not, and it's doubtful if they are capable of doing it.

>>533392109
>Women lead in Christianity because Christianity says there is no male nor female.
Elaborate.

>>533392109
There's nothing Marxist about it. It's socialism. It's inherently gay and faggy