American healthcare is a joke
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>>533385885Unironically it is bad. Kill yourself
Not a single white person is struggling with healthcare stateside.
>>533385885Healthcare as we know it stems from the kabbalah and you shouldn't go to a doctor or anything. It's jewish, they convince people that a lie is the truth, and they've done it with medicine as well. Open your eyes. "Science" is just the kabbalah.
>>533386014Doordash grandma and her husband?
>>533385885same for me.GP visit: 2 years and countingPrescription: depends, some get this covered, some dontof course what you ignore is that the cost still exists, its just hidden from you. some people just dont think that making everyone else pay for your shit is right and proper. niggers however....
i just went to dr got meds for insomnia didnt work went to different doctor got prescribed a med that isnt covered by medicare>sleeping pills $265 so far
>>533386177over how long a period of time?
>>533386177And now the kikes control your sleep as well, and have you paying for it in kind. you should never take anything for sleep.
>>533386014cope
>>533386177lol, here you get everything. you can even just call dr say I feel bad and 5 days you dont even have to go to doctor to check and your employee pays you 100% like you worked. If you cant sleep you can get a whole plethora of pills or alternative medicine or even weed. 0 worries about health issues.
>>533386177Do some hard work and smoke a fatty. Do some exercise. You may not be sufficiently tired enough for sleep, make sure you are. And if not, stay up, you'll fall asleep eventually. Nobody can just stay up.What is really making you need to go to sleep when your body is telling you "no"?
>>533385885>raise your taxes to 60% of your paycheck>"free"
>>533386177Is something on your mind that's keeping you awake? Are you smoking meth? Tell me anon
Here's how the process actually works:>You call up the GP for an appointment>You have to call at 8am and sit in a queue for 15 minutes only to be told they have no more appointments left>If by some miracle you do get through you will, at best, be given an appointment for 2-3 weeks later, but could be 6-8 weeks>Finally get to go see the doctor>Get fobbed off with some B.S. non-treatment that doesn't solve your problem or just totally misdiagnosed because everything is about saving the system money and trying to NOT diagnose and cure people>Maybe after 3-6 months you get lucky and actually get a diagnosis, then maybe a year later you get treatment>If you didn't die already, which most often they are hoping you do because it would save them money
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>>533386014Niggers and spics get medicaid or just turn up at the ER and ignore bills. It's working class white people getting fucked by the US healthcare system
>>533386845and how it works where i live is this:>no GPs/Family Doctors taking new patients>go on government waiting list>wait 2 years>keep waiting>.......
>>533386014Thanks for sharing. I believe you are genuinely reflecting your daily lived experience. But get back in to Congress now so you can vote for Israel.
>>533386845It's gunny how you think none of this applies to our shitty system as if limited resources and queues didn't suddenly exist in a private for-profit system, except you also need to be on the phone with your insurance provider to get them to actually pay for it too.
>>533385885How many months/years do you need to wait to see your GP?
>>533387223I could get an appointment on Monday for a brain transplant if I wanted in Jersey
>>533387223Would you rather wait a couple of days or having to pay $10,000s out of pocket?
>>533387296Damn, they don't even do brain transplants in romania
Had this experience yesterday. My hand has been hurting for awhile called an orthopedic specialist to get it looked at. They said 3-4 months until appointment. They run my insurance info and see I have good insurance and said hold on and get me in the next morning. Pretty Jewish.
>>533385885I would much rather encounter the entire health system in Ireland, than in the US, even having to pay for private insurance which will be a fraction of what you'd pay there (I've some exepreince and knowledge of both). However: what he's talking about is if you have a Medical Card. It's a sore point for a lot of people, once they start working, or if they've paid taxes their entire lives and get a big fat zero towards the end, because they're not sick or poor enough to get a Medical Card. There are other things wrong, which reflect a lot of what's wrong in Public Spending in the Western World in general - too many people trying to get a cut of everything; bullshit admin inflation instead of clinical medical managers. With all the problems, I'd still rather raise a family under those problems than the ones with healthcare in the US.
>>533386845>Had staph infection on my finger from cleaning out garbage disposal >Call doctors office >They pick up immediately >Schedule appointment for 2pm at the clinic same day>$30 sliding scale payment at the counter because poorfag and no health insurance>Seen by an actual MD who drains the pus and writes me an Rx for clindamycin>Walk down hospital hallway to their in house pharmacy >That'll be $7.48 for the Rx>Back home before dinner>Better in 3 days>Mfw
>>533385885Nice bait. Those doctors are compensated for every visit and the burden is disproportionately on the shoulders of productive workers who pay taxes.
>>533385885>Time it took to receive care: 5 months
>>533386402Anyone who thinks its free is a retard. Especially Aussies.
>>533386845>be me>have sleep apnea>already know the issue is my fucked up nose>go to doctor, wait 6 months for visit>tell him everything, he says yeah it's a fucked up nose but you have to take these useless medicine for 2 months and report back it's protocol>do it, guess what, it was useless and I had to spend money on the ticket (basically a tax on the visit) 20€ then for the medicine another 20€>go back ok you need surgery and I agree, says I should be able to get it in about 9 months>actually 3 years pass>get surgery to correct septum and turbinates >6 months have passed, my sleep hasn't improved at all and my right side is still not functioningAmazing, I love public healthcare and modern medicine! If I simply shelled out 5k-9k I could've got this same thing within a week at a private clinic except with better post care, tools and likely less painful, also probably it would've worked.
>>533385885>free (15% or more of your income each month)it's all so tiresome
>>533387155I've literally had cancer and never had to deal with the insurance company denying anything, I'm beginning to think that insurance shit is just a scare tactic by liberals just making shit up usual(Or the claims get denied because they tried to jew their way into free healthcare)
>>533386014Healthcare is the single biggest reason for bankruptcy in America.Nigger, people pull their teeth at home because they can't afford a dentist.
>>533387071>implying it would be better to pay for Israel and pay for parasitesRetard, blues still pay for Israel
>>533385885Salary in Ireland: €47kSalary in America: $178k + tip>MUH I ONLY PAID €1.50 FOR MY MEDICATION AMERICA IS A SHITHOLE HAHAHA
>>533385885SUFFERING GOOD PLEASURE BAD
>>533387472sleep apnea has nothing ot do witha a deviated septum, you and your doctor are both retarded
>>533387655retard
>>533387472>I had to spend money on the ticket (basically a tax on the visit)no, thats just paying to see a doctor. i never understand why anyone could have a problem with this concept. >>533387490you know that here in canada we pay shitloads of income tax for the health system right? well, we are also forced to pay another $200-$250 per month for an extra private medical insurance plan if we work at a job for more than 3 months.after 3 months you get a mandatory pay cut to pay for stuff that you have no choice about paying for or not.
>>533387591>As of early 2026, the average annual salary in the U.S. is approximately $64,500 to $65,500 ($31.01 per hour), according to Forbes Advisor and Sage.This includes all the billionaires and their made-up money.If you exclude the 1% richest, the average American makes about the same...
>>533385885Try that with 80 million brown people in the system who don't pay into said system. It's pretty obvious why we don't have a functioning health care system.
>>533386937remember how trump promised to fix healthcare almost 10 years ago?
>>533387793If your nose were to be completelty blocked you could just breather through your mouth you knuckleheadYou have sleep apnea because you're fat and retarded
>>533387396I’m glad the Irish have finally made the decision to start beating illegals with bats and burning everything down with the useful tool (Molotov cocktails), they do work. I’m also glad you all have finally figured out that if you go after the judges and politicians doing this shit, it will bring about changes. When I was in the USA:1. Monthly Health Insurance Premiums >$7082. Deductible >$3,4003. Copays>Depends4. Coinsurance>Depends5. Medication Deductible >$60-$300 all depends Then I found out a very little known fact about health insurance I didn’t know, there is something called>coverage zoneWhat this means is that if you are outside the “coverage area” you might be liable for 50% - 75% of the medical costs. Even better, the coverage area is a mystery, nobody knows where it begins or where it ends. And, not every medicine, medical procedure, or diagnostic test is covered.
Actually I like going bankrupt because my healthcare provider(that pay 6k a month for) didn't want to pay for a procedure in the richest country in the world.But thays fine I wouldn't want to put the burden on taxpayers because they can't afford it.
>>533387794>no, thats just paying to see a doctor. i never understand why anyone could have a problem with this concept.Because it's not a private doctor, that's a public 100 tax funded hospital and visit that takes months (sometimes years) on a populace that is taxed for 40% of their income at the minimum plus everything else on top of it, it's a joke that we have to further pay for anything else, when you can just drop sightly more for a private visit but you won't have to wait 3 months, I've done it and I had an appointment within the same day.
>>533387855double retard, you don't even understand the implications of what you said
>>533387591>americans: spends thousands a month on the many types of insurance he needs to just function in society
>>533385885Socialism is bad. It keeps useless eaters alive longer than they should because they have access to healthcare.
>>533387472>sleep apneahave you tried not being fat?
>>533387460People here trying for it genuinely think its free, they'll parrot the health system from Sweden and go "LOOK THEY GET IT FREE", meanwhile my friend who actually is Swedish gets taxed to death, can't afford an ambulance when they had an emergency (those are not free) and their surgery got postponed for about six months.Socialized healthcare is laughably bad but the ultimate joke is everyone is too stupid to understand.
>>533386014I know white people who don't retire because they can't afford the Obamacare plans or cobra and don't qualify for Medicare yet. You're a deranged retard.
>>533387918It's not my fault you don't even know how your nose cavity looks, you're a literal baby, a fat one with sleep apnea
>>533387997>how dare you have the basic necessities of a human guaranteed for giving something to society
>>533387893yeah i get that its a publicly funded doctor, but dont you also see that there are several benefits to having an upfront charge to see them? First, it will make people think before booking an appointment that might not be needed. There are very many such appointments made, simply because the cost of admission is free.Secondly, it places ever so slightly more burden for funding the doctor onto those who use his services.in every way, a slight fee is a good thing. you can tell that this is case by how loudly it gets opposed by ideologues and poors alike.
>>533387890Good, I hope you die from it faggotOne less parasite in the world.
>>533385885but there's no dentistry
>>533387933whereas we are forced to pay for many kinds of insurance that we dont need.
>>533387416we're talking about serious illness and disease over here, not your owie, you pussy.
>>533386402>first 44k taxed at 20% income after that taxed at 40% I know we're American, but these are separate taxes, not an addition. So its not 20-40
>>533386014My aunt died because from preventable cancer but she didn't have insurance and couldn't afford the treatment, we're in a deep red state so she didn't qualify for Medicaid.
>>53338819220+40*
>>533388106americans do pay for healthcare but 70% of them don't get coverage>>533388230I'm sorry anonI've seen many stories of people having to start gofundme because they can't afford treatment
>>533387591Let’s check out some of the monthly costs I had when I was in America shall we1. Healthcare Premiums each month >$7082. Car payment >$2333. Gas per month >$60-804. Tolls goin in PA, going out of PA>$9.00>$4.005. Parking 5 days per week $12 a day>$606. Rent each month>$1,390You do the math. This is not (living) this is all still just bills. Doesn’t even include utility bills, internet, food. You make significantly more in America, but you’ll spend it all either on rent, food, or healthcare premiums.
>>533388280the government pays for all poors and all old people. the rest either get insurance or dont.here, i cant even get to see a family doctor because there just aren't any. for everything we have to go sit in the ER all day.
>>533388076No there 0 upsides, because an emergency call will not cost you anything, you can literally call an ambulance for free, even if you have nothing, they will bring you over the hospital and check you up for free, 0 money needed, the same applies to immigrants and other people who could exploit the system, they won't need to pay the tickets, it's only citizens who respect the laws and procedures that get fucked over, it's purely nonsensical. You're also making 0 sense, the doctor is already paid for everything, there's no funding him.
>>533388354you're missing car insurance and home insurance because they still build their houses with flammable materials
>>533388409and in america you would have to pay 2k just to see the same doctor
>>533388192>misses the entire pointIf universal healthcare passes your taxes skyrocket, you retard.>>533388280>70% of Americans don't get coverage>source: I made it up>>533388354>I have to pay bills>this would be better if I made even lessLmao
>>533388230This is basically the duality of society. Socialized medicine: queues and shortagesJudaized medicine: $15k protection racket + out of pocket + tip and completely dependent on being a good slave cattle to your employer or being a retired boomer. Can't do that? Then you just die or go into giga debt and bankruptcy instead.
>>533388076>putting doctors in charge of what they charge youokay anon just take these 100 lab tests and come back to me
>>533388470Nobody pays 2k to see a doctor, that's absolute horseshit.
>>5333868452-3 weeks is not an abnormal of a wait time in the u.s. the only difference is we have urgent care clinics where you can wait all day to get seen by a random for acute care b.s. but its better than nothing >.t GP
>>533388574>t.GPYeah, alot of doctors frequent /pol/
>>533387416>$30 sliding scaleBe careful at poor people clinics, generally the doctors/mid levels are bottom of the barrel. Sorry your monthly income is so low they're only charging you $30
>>533388551however much you pay to visit a doctor I can bet you is less than what an european pays a month for their entire healthcare nigger
>>533388428Yep. Your right. I honestly had so many costs I can’t even remember them all. Health insurance premiums RentRenters insurance Car payment Car insurance FoodInternetWaterElectricity Phone billTolls x2 per dayDaily parking feeState taxPersonal property taxFederal taxes Earned income taxes EtcNo socialized healthcare, no socialized education, shit transportation due to niggers, unreliable buses due to niggers. Honestly no wonder everyone is medicated in America, if the niggers weren’t already bad enough, the relentless onslaught of fees, taxes, premiums and costs is enough to drive you mad.To top it all off, at the end of the year you have to do your own taxes and not fuck up. That or hire an accountant at $60 per hour. In Belgium my employer does ALL my taxes for me. I now understand the suicide rate in America
>>533385885Funny. I have never heard of anyone sneaking across your countries border for your healthcare...
>>533388840and their car insurance payments are ridiculously high because americans rely on cars so every retard on america has a car
>>533388500When I was there working I paid 8 different types of taxes every month with nothing to show for it. Shit roadsNo education No healthcare Horrible public service Shit police Shit fire department It literally felt like all I was doing was paying for Tyrone and funding niglets.Vid is for you, it’s 30 seconds https://youtube.com/shorts/cD0X9v_PJHc?si=Ss9V13pIimFjorlN
>>533388816Sorry I don't want to pay for your illegal family to get their insulin, Paco.
>>533389088don't worryyour president is defunding your own healthcare to pay wars for isreal instead
>>533389064I don't want communist propaganda, and lmao at complaining about the shithole that is PA (a blue state) while simping for universal healthcare. You got what you voted for faggot.
>>533388420>you can literally call an ambulance for free, even if you have nothing, they will bring you over the hospital and check you up for free, 0 money needed,yes, and look how much that privilege gets abused because of it. you dont think people calling the ambulance for bullshit should get fined etc?> the same applies to immigrants and other people who could exploit the system, they won't need to pay the ticketsthen they should go to jail or something. > You're also making 0 sense, the doctor is already paid for everything, there's no funding him.but, if part of his funding came from appointment fees, it would reduce the tax burden placed on to everyone else.>>533388470absolute seething irrationality>>533388545and more irrationality. who said that?
Any time a european asks me about healthcare in america or tries to laugh at america's healthcare system. I ask them one simple question. Can they afford centralized air conditioning. It is pretty funny watching them squirm with this one. To date I have yet to find a european "rich" enough to be able to afford it.
>>533389156So it would be better to be taxed to death AND have my president pay for wars in Israel? Democrats feed the beast the same, at least Republicans aren't retarded enough to pass UH.I fully support defunding our healthcare, it'll take care of a few leeches who shouldn't survive.
>>533385885>GP visit -FreeFalse, it's about 80 euro if you can even get on a GP's "list", if you don't have a family doctor then get fucked lmao
everyone loves to have an opinion on healthcare while not knowing the basics of any topic at handespecially on reddit people dont even know how the fuck insurance works since theyre on their parents and unemployedi hate being assaulted by retarded opinions online. every time i go to the internet its some of the least informed opinionated people talking nonstop
>>533385885>Total cost doesn't include healthcare taxWow, it sounds really good if you pretend like you're not paying for it with every paycheck.
>>533389189I didn’t vote for it you moron. I worked in America for 5 years on a work visa, then returned to Belgium when the company was sold. I know very little about American politics other than liberals are fucked in the head and conservatives make no sense.I don’t think America should have any communist anything. But I do believe you all should have healthcare and education.Hurr durr, I’m not paying for…. Stfu.. you already pay for Tyrone, and you already pay for Shaniqua and her 15 monkeys. What’s ironic is you pay for the worst people in society and give them a golden ticket yet the hardworking American struggles to make ends meet with crippling healthcare costs
>>533389448they pay less each month than an american pays for a single GP visitnever mind if you need an specialist
>>533389448It may as well not, what is your opnion on state owned corporations like schools and hospitals?
>>533385885I have "free" health care but I don't use it because I'm never in need of it. Even child care is not needed because I don't vaxx my kids and had them delivered at home, so I'm forced to pay for a service I'm not using. Cool. I'm also taxed for public service media I'm not consuming. Only cattle use that shit because they buy the lie that it will help them.
>GP Visit - FreeWrong
>>533389618You will grow old and die eventuallyIs a part of lifeGib healthcare
>>533389614necessary evil
>>533389373oh you have that issue there too? my family has been waiting years to get a family doctor.>>533389618socialist ideas - so good they must force you to pay for them
>>533389611>Single GP visitFree >SpecialistFreeMaybe the Americans you talk to and healthcare should get a real job that comes with insurance.
>>533389618coolnow point me to which country in the world you only pay for the taxes of the public services you use anon
>>533389752>job with insurance>your insurance: sorry mr anon, after our analysis we concluded we can't cover the costs of your treatment
>>533389088Good thing you're a broke faggot with no money who actually drains tax dollars from others instead of contributing.Migger trannies are fucking retarded lmao
>>533389322>Democrats feed the beast the sameRemind us again, how many times the USA bombed Iran for their israeli masters during Biden's administration?Dipshit fucking npc. You see republicans sending trillions of dollars worth of financial, diplomatic, military, etc. support and the dems sending 1-10% of that and your npc brain screeches "B-B-BUT THEY'RE THE SAME"kys retard
>>533389842>Projecting his own medical experiences on to othersIf I have a medical concern I can get an appointment within 48 hours. When was the last time a spic or Europoor waited less than a month. I feel sorry for you third worlders, especially when you have to cope with how superior American healthcare is.
the us healthcare system is hardly private.
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>>533389519>not a US citizen>complaining about our education/healthcareWhere are you actually from? Drop that meme flagMy guess is India or Israel
>>533390020>Medically unnecessaryI'm sorry that you're upset that you can't get your tranny surgery for free
>>533390072and who decides what is "medically necessary" anonsome kike in an office building probablyyou should read up on luigi mangeone
>>533389845>>533389951Someone got upsetti spaghetti, sorry you can't refute anything and just have to fall back on the same tired insults.The only question is if you're JDF or a jeet.
>>533386014Lol my great uncle was worth a couple million dollars. Had his own small business, went broke when his wife got cancer. She died and he moved back to Canada completely broke.
>>533390135>Luigi MageoneThe guy who is so clueless that he thought shooting a CEO would change anything? You commie morons realize that CEOs aren't the top of the food chain, right? They're easily replaceable employees like anyone else. You should read up on how corporations actually function.
>>533389951>1-10%Why are you lying to us, jeet?
>>533386402/thread
>>533390215he shoot the ceo because they denied him insurance covergaeso it does indeed happen nigger LMAO
>>533386340I’ve got a nice fatty for you to smoke
>>533389971Anon, the spic is mentally retarded, I already proved him wrong and he refused to reply. Maybe he's mad he got deported back to Mexico.>>533390436>he shootESL spic
>>533389222>but, if part of his funding came from appointment fees, it would reduce the tax burden placed on to everyone else.How the fuck it would? You are legitimately retarded
>>533387396He did not mention that most public doctors do bare minimum or diagnose the wrong thing. Have to do private doctors for anything if genuinely ill
>>533390482>does indeed happenNo shit, it happens in Canada and Europoor countries too. What's your point? Do you have a criticism that's unique to the US?>PicOh look, the average Euro is forced to pay more every year than my out of pocket maximum. The most I could ever have to pay is $3000, after that everything is free (really free, I don't pay anything.) Euros pay more than that EVERY YEAR even if they don't use their healthcare. Enjoy the ""free"" healthcare retards.
>>533390482>>533390558Are you niggers both retarded?
>>533386062Fiction
>>533390751>than my out of pocket maximumnow post your monthly payments lol
>>533390848>Monthly payments$40, my employer pays the rest
>>533390896>my employer paysok so they take that money from your paycheck to pay for your insurancegot it
>>533390714how would it not? if appointment fees are picking even 1% of that GP offices yearly costs, thats 1% less they need from general taxation.could that be any more clear?
>>533390931>take that money from your paycheckNo. You could argue that they consider the cost when negotiating my salary, though. But they don't take it out of the amount I agreed to get paid. Also notice how it involves a voluntary process of negotiation (free humans interacting) vs the government telling you what you get and pay (slave system.)
>>533385885Did you know that Native Americans like the Navajos receive free federal funded healthcare in the US?
>>533391073>You could argue that they consider the cost when negotiating my salaryYES THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT RETARDyour employer isn't paying your insurance out of goodwill
>>533391150americans are too retarded to notice minorities are actually the deadliest weapon of the pedo epistein elites
>>533391150as do poors, military vets and anyone over...65 is it? they really do have a large number of people on state funded healthcare.
>>533386937One of the dumbest goddam things the Democrats ever did was that pyjama boy ad. Like it's a lifestyle choice. All they had to do was give working people the ability to transfer some kind of healthcare credit from one employer to the next, instead of being a corporate serf. But how could stawkmarket make coin out of that?
>>533386177Without sounding like some looksmaxxer you should lower your cortisol levels, stop using screens 2 hours before bed, buy a better mattress + pure cotton bed linen and start taking ashwaganda & ZMA. High cortisol starts a doom loop of shitty sleep, shitty lifestyle choices and subsequent shittier sleep. Outside of having a genuine unbalance in your brain taking any kind of medication for sleep disorders is a bad idea, you’ll need them forever.
>>533385885I'm sure this system can withstand the addition of eleventy billion brown foreigners.
>>533385885>have severe toothache on a weekend>go to Galway emergency dept in severe pain>wait standing because everyone else sitting is waiting longer >after SIX HOURS standing get told 'can't help, bye'all that was needed was to dispense a single strong pain pill but nope they just classed me as a non-priority and wanted me to fuck off to reduce the waiting list>inb4 you had no medical coverage/insurancefully covered>inb4 you're a drug addict/look like onecomplete opposite, more European, better dressed and behaved than the rest of the entire waiting area
>>533391196>insurance out of goodwillNo shit. What's your point? Their motivation (being more attractive than other employers to top talent) is irrelevant to the conversation.
>>533391583and in europe you wouldn't even have to negotiate your insurance because you already have it
>>533391570> went to an emergency room with a toothache> demanded pain medication for a condition that couldn’t be diagnosed by a EM doctor They should’ve smacked you in the mouth for being so fucking dumb
>>533391664>In Europe you have to pay more and you have no say in the matterYes, Europeans, which we already established pay more for healthcare than I do. Good point.
>>533387570Time to change your bong water. It's like I said "2+2=4" and you replied: "retard, it's light green"
>>533386014Drooling fucking retard i know of over a dozen
>>533385885Anyone with a serious illness flies to the US to get the best treatment. American healthcare is a joke if your poor, but there is no better place to be if you are wealthy (just like everything else in this country)
>>533391776US healthcare spending per capita is double of that of most EU countries, it’s literally #1 in the world
>>533391776>Europeans, which we already established pay more for healthcare than I doit's proven data that americans pay the most for healthcare out of anyone in the world nigger but keep repeating that lie
>>533385885socialism is when workers own the means of production not when you have a tax based healthcare system
>>533391905Imagine if you spent this energy trying to advocate for the improvement of your own failed system instead of trying to talk shit about a superior one.>Americans pay moreNot me. Are these Americans who pay more in the room with you right now?
>>533392091if you pay taxes you're paying for the healthcare of your countryand you said you have a job so...
>>533392169>The total tax I pay is a lower percentage than what Canadians pay just for their healthcare taxDamn, oh well. At least I'm not paying as much as the rest of the world.
>>533388928There's a provision in EU law that if you can get a treatment sooner in another EU member state, as long as you fill the form and present the bill after payment, your state's health service will pay you back. Even outside that: even regular people get cheap airline tickets to go to cheap dentists in Eastern Europe, and have a nice weekend while they're at it.
>>533391966so who owns the means of producing healthcare in countries where its run and funded by the state?
>>533385938deport all fats to places with free healthcare
>>533392239>my employer is paying for my insuranceyeah by taking that money from your paycheck>b-b-but at least I don't pay for others healthcareyeah you do because you pay taxes>b-b-but at least I don't pay as much as
>>533389724If they keep their same predatory system but owned by the state will solve the state financial solvency, they just need to make more hospitals or statetify the ones they have
>>533389299Half the continent doesn't need aircon. In Hyperborea we burn trees and such. And yes, Spain without aircon sucks in August. OTOH: it's Spain, and they don't have your serf wealthcare system.
>>533388021Your taxes still go to health insurance for niggers and geriatrics, it'd be more logical to pay for universal healthcare.
>>533389299it's pretty hilarious to watch an american say "those europeans suffering" while america has one of the highest suicide rates in the world LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>533389448That's correct, we pay for it with taxes, well done. Still get better value for money, even with shitty things along with it.
>>533385885>solidarity is socialismI love how utterly devoid of any genuine meaning the "English" language has become.
>>533389752That's why they love the military.
>>533392334Rothschild.In canada you have to pay for all these prescriptions. Only thing you aren't paying directly is doctor and tests unless it is for a job then you get to pay for those too.
>>533391751I saw a doctor and was told to re-wait for treatment, 4 hours later I was told there would be no treatment because 'a bad accident happened on the roads and those patients are coming in'. A single, strong pain tablet is all it would have taken. They made me wait SIX HOURS total to tell me to fuck off. The only time I went to get medical treatment and its a complete failure because their socialized system is SHIT and I paid taxes out my ass for years to fund it. To other anons never, ever go there.
>>533392596such bullshithttps://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/suicide-rate-by-countryand canadas would be higher if they included MAiD deaths
>>533385885Wait until these shitholes have to pay for their own defense.
>>533392752here its just bullshit government management plus the gorillion jeets per year. if they start covering meds then the taxes will just go up. its that simple. why trust them to manage running more of the system when they clearly cant cope with what they currently have?
>>533386845Is it also true that the "doctor" you get got their degree from the Punjab Medical Institute or some such other reputable third world shit hole?
>>533387020All the docs are moving to the US. No point in making $500k just to pay $400k of it in taxes.
>>533386014>Not a single person is struggling with healthcare stateside.Ftfy. Niggers, spics and poors get it for free. Everyone else has jobs. The US has the best doctors in the world too. One of my exes worked in chemo and her patients included many Saudi royals. There's a reason why everyone with money comes to the US for various sorts of treatments. And of course plebs are allowed access to these same world-class providers.
>>533392923it's double of our rate and we're supposedly a hellhole everyone wants to escape LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>533393102>The US has the best doctors in the world too.@grok how many doctors in the usa are kikes?
>>533393089i dont doubt it. even the jeet docs aren't sticking around. a couple closed their offices around here recently, adding to the shortage. its a fucking joke
>>533386014maybe not that (You) know of.I've talked to americans, and they tell me stories about how they travel to mexico for treatments because it's way cheaper than in the US, or how some people delay or simply avoid treatment because their insurance doesn't cover their health issues or they don't have enough money.
>>533393133canadas is around 12/100kbut, include the MAiD numbers and you know what ours is?50/100k for the last 3 years.
>>533385885GP cost €50 per visit
>>533393133oh, and nearly all of europe is 2x yours too btw
>>533392390>by taking that money from your paycheckWe already established that this isn't true. >You pay taxesLess than everyone else. Because my healthcare costs me less than your costs you. Are you upset that you don't get to fly here and receive our superior quality, like rich foreigners do?
>>533385885The Irish are about to kill all of you for trying to erase them , if I were you I’d hide
>>533385885It works until your country is flooded with immigrants, who not only have tons of kids but are also dead set on bringing their elderly parents over and immediately putting them on the healthcare system.It was already falling apart 15 years ago. Dislocated my arm and sat in emergency for 6 hours waiting for my turn resulted in permanent damage.Last year stepped on a rusty nail working on my fence. Went for a shot and it took 12 hours. Everyone in Canada now treats hospital visits like you are going on a long haul flight. Bring lots of books, games, battery charger for phone, extra pillow / sweaters, snacks, etc. because it’s going to be a long wait no matter what.I was doing a marathon in the US and had a problem with my toe. MFW hospital staff rush out with a wheelchair, the. Later apologizing because I had to wait 15 min in the waiting room because it was “busy”. Lmao.My city has the same number of hospitals (3) when the population of the city was 400,000 in the 90s. Well the population of the city is now 1.2 million (99% because of immigration from 3rd world) and it’s the same 3 hospitals. But even back in the 90s it wasn’t that great…. still had to wait an hour or two even when it was mainly white people because socialized medicine isn’t really built for efficiency and cost effectiveness. My province is bringing back private healthcare options and that’s what I will use exclusively.
>>533393505again retardyour employer isn't paying your insurance out of their profits
>>533393609>My province is bringing back private healthcare options and that’s what I will use exclusively.too bad its nt possible to instantly create a private healthcare infrastructure to go in line with political whim. we need private hospitals, private doctors clinics, the whole works, free from all the controls that the government loves to have over them.
>>533385885American healthcare is insurance company mafia and corruption. In fact USA spends MORE budget money on healthcare than any other country.
>>533393734same for me though, where my employer is forced to pay the same as i am toward state programs like mandatory pension plans, healthcare contributions and so on. it always comes from the money that could go towards offering a higher wage/salary.another deranged commie obsessed by muh profit bad.
>>533393807having an uncontrolled health system is a stupidly dangerous idea are you retarted?
>>533393878how many 1st world countries with the best medical facilities in the world have 350 million people in them?
>>533393960how many of those doctors are kikes?
>>533393960per capita
>>533393609A big reason why the wait times are shorter in America is because less people have access to the healthcare system and choose to opt out of getting treatment, this isn't exactly a win.
>>533393907of course you must immediately leap from what i said to 'uncontrolled', because you cant think straight for a single moment. obviously i was referring to the controls that are causing the problems. also, as an exercise, what do you think would happen in a truly uncontrolled medical system? put it in the context of a single hospital for example. what do you think would happen to the level of service if, as you think, the hospital just decided to kill all its patients for money? do you think it would attract many new customers?
>>533386014 you ve million of whites rotting their their teeth away cos they cant afford a 3k root canal o0 I mean its expensive here to like 300 euro, but 3k is fucking joke, for what???
>>533385885I would agree except a joke is funny.
>>533385885I'm all for socialism but gratuity is a mistake, it leads to abusing and not properly valuing that thing. It's actually expensive and therefore people who ask for it should be expected to put in a little at the same time as society as a whole chips in
>>533394105not even drug dealers kill their customers niggerthey'll just keep selling you both the poison and the antidote
>>533394050in these cases its often safe to blame the niggers. also, they have had the most military personal engaged in active conflicts for a long time. but, there is no denying that the way in which government allows insurance companies to fuck around drives prices up. its a pact between them.plus, the US tends to pay more for new drugs etc, which are then sold to other countries for lower prices.
>>533394157this would also apply to canada btw. i alwys just like to point out that complaints against the US often also apply up here.>>533394245YES. thats what i was trying to get an anon to understand earlier in the thread. its ifs always no charge to access, then it simply gets taken advantage of by those who dont really need it.very simple
>>533394090>It’s low demand not high supply!Kek I’m sure you actually believe this.
>>533394328>then it simply gets taken advantage of by those who dont really need it.yeah I guess better use a system where a kike on a desk decides if insurance covers your surgery or not
>>533387997... when you could ship them off to die for Israel instead.
>>533388019He's not fat he's a jawlet.
>>533394248you think people might notice and quit going there? no, because you've no concept of how reputation works when it comes to anymore more complicated than your street corner drug dealer. >>533394416you have a perfect system in mind i suppose? there are always other companies to use that have a better reputation...or you could even go to a surgical clinic that operates outside of the insurance company/government price hiking system altogether, and who post their prices. there can be an end to the horror
>>533388541You can go bankrupt on some denbts but education and taxes/gov issues will remain a knife against your neck all of your days.
>>533394820>there are always other companies to use that have a better reputationyeah because they could never form a cartel and do the exact same shit the government doesoh wait that's literally what happens in america
>>533394886ive said it does happen, and, as usual, its a case of too much government. but it happened with state run systems too, and you've no choice but to leave the country. at least its like that here, where many people go to the US for serious issues because they'd die otherwise. but the US also has free hospitals that have nothing to do with insurance companies. you pay the price, they do the work, boom, you live. that you can so easily see the corruption of the US system and yet cant say a bad word about government systems says a lot.
>>533385885Ah yes, Ireland, the world famous socialist country. These people genuinely deserve to be crucified.
Since every non-American is an expert on American health care let me ask an open question - Has any American ever literally died trying to make enough money to cover medical expenses? I've never heard of such a case, but apparently it happens all the time overseas....
>>533392948Not in NATO. Fought own wars. Not invading everywhere else. Open a book, boomer.
>>533387545I had to pull three of mine when I was on meth and tranq dope and they rotted out. When I finally got off the drugs and turned my life around, all said and done I ended up having to pay almost $40,000 to fix my teeth. It's insanity that dental work isn't considered healthcare when you can die from not getting your infections treated, or even just the fact that tooth pain is some of the worst a person can possibly experience alone. I live with the pain of a spinal cord injury and nerve damage all over my body every moment of my life and it still pales in comparison to the torture my teeth put me through, it was actually traumatizing.
>>533395134yeah I've seen tons of people starting gofundmes to cover their medical bills
>>533395134>No one's ever been so greedy that they got themselves into big troubleTreatment for his sick mom is an obvious virtue signal.
>>533394245That's absolutely true, and applies to most things - people actually value things they have to pay or sacrifice something for, and dismiss/abuse things they get for free.
>>533395287only the same here. dental is expensive as fuck.
>>533395134In general no, but that's only because you can get emergency treatment before paying, then take the hit of absolute financial devastation for the rest of your life. In terms of tooth problems, because dental work isn't considered healthcare? Yes, absolutely. Infections can go to your heart and brain or cause things like Ludwig's angina and kill you very quickly, and it does happen.
>Irish taxpayers: 1200€ + tip
>>533385885Murica is worst place for living if you are old and poor....even Africa things are better.
>>533395134>Has any American ever literally died trying to make enough money to cover medical expensesCopy. DuckDuckGo.com. Paste.>>34 million adults know someone who died after not getting treatment>>58 million adults report inability to pay for needed drugs in past yearhttps://pnhp.org/news/millions-know-someone-who-died-after-not-getting-treatment/>Yeah ACKSHUALLY it's not the precise answer because they didn't die in a saltmine
>>533395509Getting a root canal /w all the fixings only costs a couple hundred dollars. Surely a person who cannot afford to have this taken care of is some kind of homeless drug addict.
>>533395770you're talking about a very simple procedure anonreplacing a single tooth will cost you thousands of dollars
>>533395696>These data are based on surveys with 1,099 U.S. adults across all 50 states and the District of Columbia, conducted Sept. 16-30, 2019This is the best you've got?>>533395937I had five done in the past decade. 5 new teeth, one round of antibiotics for an infection, less than $1000 spent.
>>533396070>I had five done in the past decademeth smoking white trash detected
>>533396119Nah just an obese fuck who downs soda all day
All the doctors here are retarded indians now because the people that actually know what they are doing move to countries where they get paid for their expertise
>>533396661and which countries are those?
Just don't get sick because our tax money is mostly laundered away for foreign interests and even with health insurance you're absolutely fucked if you end up with a long term medical condition
>>533385885I had major spinal surgery in my neck. Hospital bill $100,000. I paid $250. Best Healthcare anywhere!!!! USA!!!!
>>533385885I love first order thinkers. They are so easy to trick. "I am only paying $1 for my visit to doctor, I am sure that's all it cost me!" "oh I can't afford to have a family, I guess I'll just have a dog." "oh my government is replacing me with third worlders because I didn't have any kids, I guess I'll let them rape my dog." "Socialism is le based!"
>>533385885OP is a faggot
>>533385885>the idea that health insurance is free in Germany in 2026 isn't true anymore. Now you're AUTOMATICALLY insured, and your bill will be calculated based on a maximum monthly assessment threshold of €5,000 gross income. Only if you actively object to this €5,000 threshold will your monthly health insurance contribution be calculated based on a minimum monthly gross income threshold of €1,200 – otherwise, it will be calculated based on the maximum.>In practical terms, this means: if you're unemployed, you'll initially receive a bill calculated as €5,000 x 14%, and if you actively object by letter, you can have it recalculated as €1,200 x 14%. If you don't object and don't pay, you could theoretically serve time in jail at a daily rate of €25.
>>533385885I love Socialism, with nationalist characteristics.
