I'm asking people older than me, was it really that great. I am 33 years old, so I barely sniffed the 90s. So for about 80% of my conscious existence, the US has either been at war or there's some social issue everyone is bitching about. What is there to look forward to now? The elite brag everyday about how they want to replace us with robots, 3rd worlders are destroying America and Europe and the Chinese are poise to be the center of Earth. When I am talking about western civilization, I am talking about everything from Greece to America before 9/11. I don't know what happened after the clock struck on the year 2000 and we were all retarded enough to celebrate; I mean I wasn't celebrating, I was either playing a video game or something. I was truly unaware of how terrible the next 26 years were going to get.
If by the west you mean the US, then yes but it's because no one could compete with the US back then.
It was the 70s when it peaked. Carryon talmudvision and more advanced LED screens are not true progress.
>>533388564The future is terrifying. This war in Iran exposed how truly weak we are. I'm not advocating for imperialism; just stating this war should have been 3 days long. The world is going to be inherited by Jihadis
>>533388403Yes... the 1790s.
I'm 42 and yeah the 90s and very early 200s were amazing at least in North America but I think the whole world looks back with nostalgia. Best time to grow up sure, but maybe for Gen x the best time to be a young adult.
>>533388403Yup, forgot the movie name but working in a office is considered minimum wage back then
>>533388967I'm strongly bias for my childhood in the late 90s to 2009, but even I will admit in reality the political climate was pure garbage.
>>533388403Regan was the turning point, dragging us down with right-wing extreme policies. It just takes a while to destroy an empire.
>OP 3 pbtidNo.Human civilization peaked in the year 1975. All downhill from there
The '90's were great but you could see the end of that approaching with the rampant globalism beginning everywhere. The '70's and '80's were the best and these years are what Trump remembers when he talks about "Make America Great Again"
>>533388403yes
>>533388403There were always wars. Jews were always looting. TV always sucked. Hollywood hasn't produced anything original since the 80s.>3rd worlders are destroying AmericaThis was the real change. Zoomers will never know what it's like to not constantly hear shitty music and barking dogs, or to live in a neighborhood that isn't full of drug addicts, trash and graffiti.Try to imagine only seeing White faces and only hearing English spoken. Niggers are an abstraction that exists in a part of town you never go to. You've never even seen a spic. That was life in the 90s.
>>533388403wrong, it was actually the 70s>>533388621literally thisthe 90s were not "bad" but it wasnt the peak, it was a good time that coasted off the cultural and scientific innovations of the 70s and a bit before that.thje average age in the US in 1970 was like 27 years old. imagine that. every time you go outside its young people. where im from the average age is like 46. everyone is old as shit and consequently the politics and economy are retarded.
>>533389460I don't hate 3rd worlders for how they look, it's their attitude and cultures I despise. My grandmother told me there was a time when everyone wanted to be an American. The idea of being in a multi cultural hub only works when people agree on a common culture. You have these disgusting Haitians and Kenyans that only come to the US for money, then they fuck off back to Africa and invest the money over there. I don't even need to get into the Muslims, that's a pretty self explanatory disaster we're enabling. Jews are the biggest offender of them all; their entire history as a people is leeching off of current super powers and migrating elsewhere like a parasite.
>>5333884031991-2001 was the peak, 2001-2012 was like, I don't know a term to describe it. It was a good period, like normie decade you could say. 2012-2019 bleak...i guess? 2020-20xx and we are living in pre-hell
>>533388653You have food and energy security. Biggest issue is manufacturing. But I think you'll be fine.
>>533388403some time between 1970 to 2000, was the peak
>>533388403First off, I will simply assume you are real and asking a geniune question. I finished High School in the mid/late 90's to give you some context. I was always into computers, so in the early 90's I had a 386 PC, and we played games that were light years ahead in mechanics vs consoles. Computers were radically upgraded every 6 months, so you had this constant evolution into the unknown, what was next, that was thrilling at the time. Your friend group revolved around the phone, or you'd go places and have to meet at specific times or it would all fall apart. The world felt bigger. You couldn't just contact anyone anywhere. You could call long distance, which was expensive as fuck, so you never did it. And long distance wasn't calling Europe or something, it was the next area code. We sent letters. This was normal. Late night phone calls with your girlfriend. We used call up BBS'es through the phone and have our little dial up networks going. THings were sort of edgy, but media wise what I remember most is Star Trek being king on the TV, comfy sitcoms.Also keep in mind what a fucking epic show Desert Storm was. Consider how pre-1991 Communism was a THING, it was real, there was this sense of the 'others'. A titanic wall blocking off a significant portion of our past, of our world and then it was GONE over the course of a weekend. It was insane at the time. and shortly after, the entire world, even Russia helped to fucking destroy the 4th largest army in the world in a TV show that so cemented our dominance that when you went outside you knew the world was YOURS. Not in an imperial sense, but that there were no bad guys out there, there was no threat, the planet was simply just at ease. Yugoslavia, whatever, a few carriers here and there, the threat of nuclear war was gone, some terrorists here and there were just little bits of flavour in the world, nothing real. 1/2
>>533389935That's what I am afraid of. I know we're not going to be killed off like western Europe, which will be an Islamic majority hub in 30 years. I just hope the US doesn't balkanize and become a shit hole like Mexico. Even if we're no longer the strongest military on Earth, we should keep our dignity and self respect, what little we have left.
>>533389758In the U.S., 91-01 was like preparing for the party to end. We knew things were changing with NAFTA but didn't know how bad it would be until 9-11-2001. 2001-2008 was the last good period in America. There was still a little optimism and social media and cell phones had not ruined lives yet. 2008-2016 the Obama years. Anything related to White culture was being destroyed and replaced with foreigners, niggers and trannies. 2016-present is still very unstable and there are daily battles for the soul of this country.
Pre-1999 (Pre Columbine) was a good time in America. America was much more inward looking back then. Post Cold War Americans did not know about the rest of the world and they did not care.
>>533388403>did western civilisation peak in the 90'sA lot of people thought it did. "The end of history" was a popular idea. Neo-liberal, market lead economies were seen as the end point of a grand historical project that could be traced back to hundreds or thousands of years. Some of that rubbed off on the general populace leading to optimism. People became a bit more affluent so their was a bit more social mobility and people became a bit more materially satisfied.I tend to think that it was only the tail-end of the 90's that we saw or experienced this.
>>533388403peak of what? of a kike controlled world? the answer is yes then.with your pic i can see the epstien types walking in those streets making their demonic kike business.after they ritually killed the twin towers, we are now living a new chapter on their controlled narrative.btw western civ died in 1945.
>>533388403No, the 80's were the peak.Everything has rapidly declined since then.
>>5333884039/11 is when governments starting attacking freedom under the guise of security so I'm going with that as the peak. I think the "War on Terror" was the first big media psyop.
>>533388403America as a hegemon peaked in the 1990s, but "Western Civilization" had already effectively ended by 1945 when the West was forcibly transformed into a jewish travesty.
>>533390105>2001-2008Funny how different people view the same time period. I viewed that era as society falling off a cliff. And then the 2008 crash happened.
>>533388653What is this insane cope, the Iran war proved beyond any doubt that the US is the strongest military power on the planet bar none. The fact that you dipshits keep falling for retarded CCP propaganda is infuriating. Extremely stupid and sneaky yellow retards spam nonsense all over this board and you dipshits eat it up like an Indian with a bowl of cow shit.
>>533390370I can argue that Jews conquered the west when Constantine cucked to Christianity. I am not worshiping Jews, and the Bible is a good goy comic book, but keep that trash away from me. It makes me wonder how the west would have been without Christian shackles.
Late 80’s - Early 90’s
>>5333884032/2The internet just sort of happened. One day it was dialing into BBS'es, and the next, we had internet. We didn't even know what it *was* at the time. It FTP, Usenet, Email, IRC, rudimentary browsers, Netscape, Opera. The idea that you could email someone seemd natural now, but ICQ? Instant chat? Nevermind when GameSpy came out, or FUCKING ULTIMA ONLINEMedia of the time was always far behind reality, so if you were a gamer back then you were in the future and media, your peers, your teachers were so far behind what was actually going on it was funny. We went from exchanging stacks of 3.5" floppy disks to FTP sites on open company servers to share games, and being able to instant message girls around the world. European girls mostly because the rest of the world was still eating bugs. Now keep in mind digital cameras weren't a thing, usually you'd have to scan a photograph to send out.The world at this time was starting to get a bit more edgy, darker, you'll see this in media of the time, that green/purple/black that replaced the lighter Jurassic park style tones. In hindsight it was a paradise. I miss it, I cherish it and I had a great time back then. when 9/11 happened it shut the door on that life. Not only did it usher in this big brother state that we all just adjusted to, but it also somehow created this excess of the 00's that we didn't have. The 90's didn't have the massive Hummers, V8's, at least not in the same quantity. Not sure if that helps answer your question
>>533390193We were pissed with our government then too. Clinton (the first black president) was a piece of shit and militias were growing exponentially. Ruby ridge, Waco, OKC, Atlanta bombing etc.
>>533388653In my experience America post WW2 always underestimates its enemies significantly. It is like they think the people they are fighting are retarded savages rather than dedicated and cunning fanatics. US underestimated the cunning and willingness to fight of the Viet Cong in the Vietnam War. US massively underestimated the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Taliban played the long game hiding out on the mountains and using guerrilla warfare until the US bled 1 trillion trying to model the country in their image and then eventually said Fuck It. And left. Taliban took over. Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden very consciously knew that if they wanted a Caliphate one day they needed the USA to retreat from the global stage. They wanted to drag the USA into wars to bleed it so that they would give up and fuck off. They were partly successful. Iran know they cannot defeat the USA is symmetric warfare, but they can fuck the global economy by cutting off the straight of Hormuz and wrecking the oil refineries of us allied countries in the gulf until global economic pressure just forces the USA to say once again ‘fuck it. This is not worth it.’ Asymmetric warfare was something the USA was founded on (guerilla warfare against the redcoats) but something Americans fascinatingly cannot win post WW2 in.
>>533390631US has an inability to understand an ideological enemy. You cannot bomb these people into submission because for everyone you bomb, you create 10 more.
>>533390316I would agree with this.Though I made more money during the '90's, the '80's were a non-stop party for everyone. It wasn't until around '92 with the LA riots that we realized the fucking party was over. The rest of that decade was good for making money but things like Waco, OJ Simpson, Columbine etc. ruined the mood.
>>533390459It's a bit like 1973 when the world discovered that the Saudis were effectively a superpower as they could turn off their oil supplies on a whim. The world has just discovered that Iran can have a significant and detrimental impact on the rest of the world as it chooses.America has shown itself to be a bit of a paper tiger that sucks at diplomacy. They can't defeat a country like Iran through bombing, they don't have the political will to invade a country to meet their goals, they're far too easily influenced by Israel and hubris, and they're unable to convince other countries to join them in their follies.Iran, China and Russia won. These are the world superpowers that will benefit from how the world order has just shifted. Also, Iran just shutdown the strait again.
>>533390631It’s not an American thing, the Soviet Union lost against Afghanistan for the same reason, and China lost against Vietnam after the US left. It’s too expensive and time consuming for an empire to get bogged down with that shit
>>533388403yes. during the 90's, hillary clinton stand by her man, but joe biden passed the nation wrecking violence against women act. the pastors are to blame for the death of western civilization. if we ever restart being civilized it will not be a continuation. do not let feminists stay in clerical positions
>>533388403Yeah, the 1690s.
>>533390631This is why Islam is dangerous, because you can't obliterate an ideology with nukes and advanced technology. What's happening in Europe right now is cultural change. Muslims are of course anti west like the Jews are. The western world has been too comfortable and complacent for decades. The life of a western normie is accumulating debt, having kids they shouldn't have and marrying women who will divorce them anyway. Muslims come in an offer the alternative of a purpose greater than oneself. Jews are an insular people and want everyone broken down to worship them; whereas Muslims view Islam as a theology and political system for everyone. It pains me seeing retards in the UK and other European nations accepting this regression in society.
>>533390773The culture changed for the worse in the 90's with a big move towards electronic dance music and actual musicians taking a back seat to mumbling rap bullshit and a bigger push for faggotry in culture.
>>533388403No, 80s was peak. Early 90s was fine, but you could see the cracks appearing in popular culture around 97/98. MTV started moving towards reality TV, music started mixing genres and you got nigger infested shit like Limp Bizkit, and even stuff like wrestling started down a dark path where they killed kayfabe and eventually ran it into the ground to a point where it all became silly. Gaming peaked around 98/99, eventually becoming ruled by corporate white shirts when PC gaming took off thanks to windows 95.But the 80s were before things got "Tainted". You could walk into any mall here in my state in 1983 and never worry about niggers, fights, drugs, or decaying structures. You saw fountains, and huge arcades, and great restaurants. Our local neighborhood had towns of mom and pop stores and you never even heard of any other "major retail" store outside of Sears or Kmart, and the mom and pop stores always beat them in quality and selection.Shoes were still made in the US. A lot of things were still made here. Glass factories dotted our town, as did steel mills. You could walk into any business with a handshake and get a job. Even when I was a teen, I got my first job in 1994 by walking into a large corporate department store and asking to work, and because I was a white male with a brain, I was made manager in 3 months. (That store hired spics and niggers in 2004 and went bankrupt 3 years later)I'd say 1980-1996 was peak. After that, the internet, the rise of liberalism, and the political correctness culture began ruining things..t guy in his 50s
>>533388403In the 80s. 90s was when it started going downhill.
>>533390528It wasn’t just 9/11. Columbine was also a big part of this- those edgy teens making DOOM wads of their school, planning stuff with the internet… it blew the lid on the whole thing. Slashdot did a pretty good set of commentary articles on it back in the day, Into the Hellmouth, where they described the many tortured kids who were beaten up in the following weeks for having had the gall of being computer nerds. Do you remember going to the computer room during lunch time instead of going outside? There was always something more entertaining to do in there… trying to get around the pathetic early security restrictions and have some funOf course everyone made fun of us for it but now, see if they can go fifteen minutes without narcissistically checking the internet for how many people like them right now IMO things are not awful right now. People are massively blackpilled for many reasons that feel valid but will fade with time. The world holds tremendous promise for anyone still willing to engage and not give up.
>>533391016>Muslims come in an offer the alternative of a purpose greater than oneself. Jews are an insular people and want everyone broken down to worship them; whereas Muslims view Islam as a theology and political system for everyone.basically, Christianity has been destroyed by the clergy, and mahometanism is the only way to be a self respecting family man. death to all pastors
>>533388403the internet was awesome back theneverything seemed possible and the greedy control freaks took overyou blame migrants but they have no power no influence
>>533391016So you’re saying Islam is dangeous because it is a wholesome culture that encourages belief and action for something bigger than oneself?Sounds to me like we should just convert
>>533390881As far as Iran goes, we don’t know yet. The US might end up bailing, but the Iranians are already facing internal instability from the conflict. I’m sure you heard about their high ranking official who was stabbed 14 times.It is also important to note that Iran is not afghanistan, they will not accept destitution and poverty to the same degree as Afghanistan will. They need resources to pay their people or it will devolve into Iranians killing Iranians (which has already begun) where the US can then back their favorite. But again, I will admit the possibility of the US pulling out for political reasons is absolutely a possibility. Time will tell.As far as China goes, China has already lost. When the US took the supreme leader and those 40ish high ranking leaders out at the big guys house, that was supposed to be impossible. People think for some reason Iran was some militarily impotent backwater but it wasn’t. That location was supposed to be one of the most secure locations on the planet due to Russian and Chinese military technology, but it all failed. Chinese radar and Chinese surface to air missiles have largely been shown to be garbage. The US should not have been able to catch Maduro the way we did. We should not have been able to devastate Iran like we have. We may or may not leave Iran due to it being too politically costly to continually blow up their country, but in a conventional war against China over Taiwan for example the Iran conflict has proven to the world that the USA would handily win. Dipshits on /pol/ might not know that, faggots on Twitter might not know that, but every Nation on the planet is aware of it - including China
>>533388403>>533388621>>533389609>>533390906>>533391088No, it was the 50's and early 60's highest corperate tax, highest pay, lowest costs, pre civil rights bill. This is the only correct answer
>>533391276Yeah, sounds nice and all. I think you miss the part where they chainsaw you from the balls to your brain or push you off a building when you disobey them.
>>533391163>People are massively blackpilled for many reasons that feel valid but will fade with time
>>533391046Muh oasis V blur
>>533388403When the soviet fell zog declared the end of history. No perceived threats leads to overconfidence and laziness, they turned attention on mopping up its own populace. They were not expecting eastern zog to challenge them
>>533391197>the greedy control freaks took overit started by selling pictures of college girls asses in exchange for all your personal and relationship data and continued with the need to have a perfect instagram resume to get your next relationship because no fault divorce means marriage doesnt exist
>>533391197Control freaks are legitimately a huge problem. Watch as they now take away our anonymity; age restriction laws are really a proxy to force everyone to use digital ID to identify themselves online. Our days here do feel numbered. And it’s all because some pantywaisted faggots and church-ladies are terrified that we can swear and make unfiltered observations about the world and argue and be mean. Standard male discourse has been relegated to such a small corner of the internet that most men don’t even know about it or realize how censored they are. As the sign tappers showed us, they’ve eased off just enough to release the pressure so that nobody fights back… but pretty soon all avenues of being able to do so will be gone. Still. I don’t think the world is without promise today. I have to believe there’s a way forward, for myself and my children.
>>533391393Yeah see the thing is there is that you’ve been suckered in by propaganda. More people get randomly killed by indigent people of colour in your shithole country than anything you’re able to point at over there. For a normal law abiding citizen who is a member of a community there’s zero risk of this kind of thing- or if nonzero, it’s basically comparable to life here in North America. Stop believing lies designed to make you hate people that don’t need to be your enemy, for the benefit of Israel.
>>533391197send more migrants to poland
>>533388403Short and simple I would say yes living in that decade. Music was at its peak. Made some kino music videos. All started from that kike hating popstar MJ himself. But music across the board was hifi. Everything was affordable newfags. I am talking about tuesday and thursdays they had soecials for thirty nine cent cheeseburgers. Its downright gluttony. We had people in /fa that had envy. From kriss kross making you wear your clothes backwards, to hypercolor materials that showed how sweaty of a pig you are. The NSA were still sucking on their pacifiers. The Internet was the wild wild west with AOL 1000 free hour CDs that are the remnance of whatever memory there was there. Gas was five dollars for an entire tank. I would drive with the hot wind blowing through my midpart in my vw GTI manual. I had my 386 with a turbo button playing wing commander and commander keen. Even leisure suit larry. Best timeline.
>>533391535>Our days here do feel numbered.cant wait until im free of this place> And it’s all because some pantywaisted faggots and church-ladies are terrified that we can swear and make unfiltered observations about the world and argue and be meanpastors are more feminist than divorce judges who have to deal in particulars and with lawyers trying to push things. pastors and parishioners are 100% feminist and 0% Christian, as evidenced by their complete refusal to know anything about Christianity. there can be no restoration until the churches burn, the pastors die, and the parishioners all have divorces forced on them
>>533391392Honestly, you're probably right. But I was born in the 70s, so I have a limited range of experience. I know I'd rather live in a 50s world, though.
>>533391392we'll agree to disagree50s-70s was the time to be alive. now we're in the shadow of the western peak50s also had the lowest homicide rate the US has ever had iirc
>>533391662LOl what? You realize Muslims have always hated western countries, right? This isn't a recent phenomena.
menthos commercials and meowmix commercials were peak comfy 90s and then the 2010s ruined it all
No but it appears that way because many of us were alive in the 90s and 90s-present are the sharpest and steepest period of our civilization’s decline. Truthfully, it peaked right before the world wars. We could reach a new peak again but it would take epoch-defining world-historical scale wars and revolutions and would only last about a generation or two before terminal and irreversible decline sets in.
>>533391197>you blame migrants but they have no power no influenceMy city government panders to them for votes. I literally haven't had a good night's sleep in seven years because of all the shitskin noise. Eventually I'm going to snap.
>>533388403It does seem that everything went to shit after 911.
>>533388403yeah, it was the perfect balance. in a way, the world really did end in 2000 and 2012. not literally, but they were key turning points and periods of major shifts away from the norms of the past. 2012 was the beginning where globohomo went into overdrive and we were forced to be exposed to troons and nigger movie remakes. 2000 began the shift to always online and digital vs analog
No retard it peaked in the late 1880s in the late Romantic era and went downhill starting from the 1910s.
>>533391849I will have to take your word for that, Canada was a catholic country so I’ve never even met a “pastor”, the catholic priests I’ve met never really had any opinions on women (lol wonder why) But even in the secular world we have control freaks everywhere. Always wanting to lock down everything because they’re scared of innovation and change, and hope that they can hold back the tide of progress so that their comfortable understanding of the world is not challenged
God, I want to be a child in the 90s again.
>>533388403It was the perfect mix of traditional analog life and emergent digital tech. It was when new tech was truly a COMPLIMENT to your life. Cell phones and computers existed, but they weren't the be-all-end-all of your day. You still went outside, actually hung out with friends and met people. Your phone was just used as a phone, and then you put it away. Your computer was this thing that stayed in a room in your house. Having more than like one singular hour or so of "screen time" in a day was seen as weird and anti-social.
>>533391389>but the Iranians are already facing internal instability from the conflict.No they arent, stop coping.
>>53338840390s America was on top of the world.Soviet Union dissolved.Crushed Iraq.No terror threats.No jewish person country like post 9/11.No smart phones.It was good.You'd have to have been there.Post 9/11 America became just another jewish gulag state.
>>533392170It’s not cope, and yes they are.
>>533391888Idk man I’ve met a lot of muslims, even Ismailis, and none of them seemed to hate me or my culture, but they weren’t a fan of American jingoism and Israel and sycophantic yank evangelical types who wanted to destroy their countries for obscure eschatological reasonsThere are just as many dumb buttgoy white yanks who hate on muslims as there are Muslims hating on whites, maybe the common problem here is mouth breathing idiots who should be gelded. You sure that’s who you want to defend?
>>533392254Quit fucking coping already. No one is giving a shit about your ridiculous fantasy scenarios where you "didnt really lose"
>>533391163I'd love to chat more, I like your perspective. We use to sneak into the PC lab after school and just wait until the school shut down so we could be there longer. I'm not blackpilled about much other than infinite Indians. Canada has become such a shithole because of it
>>533391928>2010s ruined it alleveryone knew the experiment in legal faggotry that started in 2003 was going to end, but if you said anything anywhere but here you were going to lose your facebook and instagram, lose your girlfriend and kids, lose your career. i never got banned from facebook because my memes were too absurdist and abstract to get banned first like nick fuentes was too gay to get banned first. i didnt sign up for facebook to look at allisons butt but it didnt matter, i saw allisons butt and saw everyone affirm fag rights in exchange for the peep show of fully clothed girls
>>533388621It's really hard to separate what life was actually like versus what your kiddie brain thought life was like. But yes, by nearly any measurable metric life was so much fucking better between about 1955 and 2001 that it's heartbreaking. There was still injustice and stupid bullshit, jerks and criminals, interminably boring nonsense and cruelty - it wasn't paradise. But so many, many of the good little things that made life better have vanished without anything left to make up for them.You'll never know how great your life could have been. You could have had lots of disposable income, a home, privacy and extensive freedom. Instead we got this bullshit.t.old
whats there to live for nowadays seriouslyworld is just shiti dont have anything against ukranians but otherwise id volenteer to just go to the front or somethingwhat life is there to liveeverything about life is just piss soakedvoid of anything worthymy soul remembers of a world with interaction, love, adventure, even if its in the little sense.but no hyper dystopian police state, mass media. y it gotta be like this. once we die well find out its the best thing that could've ever happened and we'll wonder why we even made it to 30everyone can live.. have gf etcyou just gotta be an arrogant prickthats life 101get self esteem, based on being a dorksomething feels not right about that
>>533392151the problem with the control freak narrative is facebook presented itself as in opposition to control freaks who didnt want whores to show their butts and didnt want faggots to say im gay. progress can only be held back by whores wasting the energy of men on mate guarding instead of building and taking care of children. the #1 purpose of civilization is to suppress whores
>>533392318It’s fascinating how dishonest these propaganda shills are. I never said anything like that. But I suppose if you’re as low IQ as this one you can’t actually engage directly.
>>533391432yeah peak west was around the late 80s and 90s. then with the 9/11, shit started going downhill. there was still optimism in the 2010s until covid. since 2022 it is peak clown gay world
>>533388403Everything before this:
>>533392513i'm 35 and when i was a teenager my gen x parents repeatedly insisted i need to break out of my shell and socialize.went to a party and they said don't drink and drive. so i drank and didn't drive. grounded for a month at age 17 for doing what my peers had been doing for years already. for doing what my parents did their entire teenage years, creating their social groups they lean on for support.now i'm alone with nobody because between my upbringing and various career attempts, i've been punished for socializing far more than it was ever encouraged.but it's my fault i have nobody and find other people terrifying. i wasn't motivated enough, i'm told. i was given every opportunity.i fantasize about being robbed at gunpoint and tiredly pressing my forehead to the barrel of the gun, daring them to earn their spoils with blood
>>533391016Islam is dying. The few dozen ISIS terrorists are the last terrorists the Sunni World will ever produce. Young people in the Middle East are becoming more like us.
I once asked grandma, "for you, what was the turning point, the line that marks the place where things started to go downhill?" She said, "Oh that's easy - it was the Kennedy assassination. Nothing was ever the same again after that."
>>533392701Your coping attempts to protect your feefees are completely useless.
>>533388403I'm 45. Yes, around 95 was peak.
>>533393161Man this is low quality shill. Whatever they’re paying you is too much
>>533393319but he's getting replies from reflexive retards, as intended
>>533392350Yeah we probably grew up around the same time, I finished high school in 2000 and so it really was like a different world, as soon as I graduated the world changed pretty massively and I feel like the pace of change is only accelerating. I’m bullish on the world because of AI though. Like always, in every technological revolution, there are millions of naysayers who want to shit on it and claim it’s the devil, but for those of us who want to ride the tiger it’s been an exciting few years. Our individual capabilities are going to skyrocket over the next few years and we will see amazing things because of it, I am sure. Think of the people who have amazing ideas but couldn’t execute because of a lack of training or technical skill in the past; we should see creations that make the nostalgia of the past seem inferior in comparison. The problem is that there’s actually still a metric fuckton of work to do, physical and psychological, before we are the more mature and enlightened species we pretend to be. As long as I can walk around the city and still see trash, ugliness, incomplete construction or suboptimal uses of land, indigent people with no hope, and war… we are still just monkeys. The technology is our only hope of climbing out of that perennial problem.
>>533393421He’s pretty clearly a political shill and not a quote farmer, thanks for the input though Xiang
>>533392675I concur with this to some extent. We spent thousands of years building institutions to essentially control and focus sexuality; that’s one of the main teleological purposes of religion. The problem is that we irreversibly tied physics, philosophy, and law into this as well, and so when the physics and philosophy broke down after thousands of years of criticism, we were stuck throwing the sexual civilizational technology out with it. That was a huge mistake as we can all see now. But we also see that the zoomers aren’t having sex. For whatever reason- and I’m well familiar with the ideas out there on the topic- yall went from the sluttiness of my generation to self enforced groomer puritanicalism where you just masturbate - some do it on camera for everyone else, some in private, but all of you seem depressed about this state of affairs while not doing anything to fix it. And then the control freaks come in and say, well, the only way to fix this is to lock down the entire internet and murder free speech under the pretense of bringing back some kind of healthy focused sexuality that has a proper 2+ birth rate! Won’t fucking happen. We are being hoodwinked.
>>533388403In retrospect, no snark: yeah.There was so much possibility. Governments were clueless about the Internet, and couldn't keep up, even as they desperately were trying to facilitate it to keep up with everyone else. It was like arms race between governments, and the average person benefited in terms of personal freedom of knowledge and expression. I remember one poor father became a meme, threatening to "backtrace" someone picking on their kid online, and reporting them to the "cyberpolice" - and everyone laughing, how ridiculous! You can't police or control the Internet! No social media smart phone mass zombieism - people couldn't go into cocoons absolutely everywhere. The music kicked ass. I don't mean a particular type - just that there was actual variety and discovery and everything didn't just sound like it was LLM generated autotuned mopey slop.We were complete slackers on the one hand, but people actually gave a shit about things like authenticity vs fake bullshit. There could be a warm or genuine humour about that slacker attitude too - everything from "Fight Club" to "Mars Attacks" to well, "Slackers". Yes everything was still stacked against that, but at least it was an ideal or desire even in the breach - it wasn't mocked and drowned in bullshit irony.There was a real opportunity with the fall of the Berlin Wall, with China introducing markets - shit even with peace processes in Ireland and Palestine and South Africa. All it required was savvy people in power who could use a Machiavellian balance of short and long term national self-interests, to cut deals that most of the world could benefit from in the coming generations, and we could all go to Disneyland and chill out together.Fuck. I need to go outside.
>>533393137I think generally what this actually is is “What is the moment in your life that you started to become politically aware?”And for me I still didn’t even give a shit about 9/11; I went back to bed and used it as an excuse to skip classes. I didn’t become politically aware until I was trying to use it to get hippie chicks, which works, but in retrospect wasn’t worth it. I’d say for me that was maybe around the Obama candidacy, but really I don’t think I started to grok how things fit together until much later. As soon as you start learning about these last names and how to tell where people are from, it changes everything.
>>533393887All of this is super true. The word “cyber” will for me always be a sign that the person talking is a poser that doesn’t fucking know anything. The only time we used the word cyber in the 90s on the internet was in IRC after “a/s/l” when we wanted to type out some weird sexual shit with someone pretending to be a pretty girl
>>533391705how would that change a shut in neets internet experience?
>>533392151Canada is most certainly not a Catholic country. Perhaps Quebec and certain neighbourhoods but this place is protestant as fuck
>>533388403no. it was still slop ass, just a little cheaper
>>533393475AI can be great but it's so hobbled. Imagine how quickly you could use it to kill the holocaust narrative if it actually worked properly
>>533393319Your coping does not work. You lost in Iran.
>>533388403Yeah, it did. https://share.google/VnAYrI4xeMoQcCJLy
>>533388564the peak quality of life ever was sweden in the 80s or USA in the 60s, cant think of anything else that comes closejews pushed the immigration law that allowed nonwhites in america in 1965, and in the 90s it had already went full speed ahead for 30 years, but of course the speed of the browning has increased exponentially as more of them keep coming in and they have more kids, so 30 years ago it was quarter as bad as its todayin 1960 USA was 90% White it was the largest White ethnostate ever seen with a sprinkle of jews and niggers
>>533389460Here's california in 1940sNot the image you think of when you think of california, rightImagine that, perfect weather, cheap housing, high salaries, everyone is White
>>533389292>The '70's and '80's were the best and these years are what Trump remembers when he talks about "Make America Great Again"The problem is that you can't bring it back without killing the jews first and Trump is their greatest shabbosIsn't it interesting how trump talks about restricting migrants but he never ever says a word about the 1965 immigration law that was written by jewish senators, and while he drops out of paris climate accords he doesn't talk about dropping out of the 1951 international refugee act which jews pushed through the UN and created the mechanism of asylum seeking.It was meant primarily as a backdoor for themselves so "holocaust would never happen again" essentially forcing any country to accept jews and process them if they need to flee prosecution again, but the bonus of it was that other non whites could too abuse it en-masse to gain access to White countriesJust repealing those 2 laws would immediately stop the brown flood, yet the "border wall" trump never says a wordAnd neither does the media, imagine if all the people knew that all you need to do to stop the browning was repeal two little laws
>>533388403It's because of China. They siphon all resources and put a strain on the rest of the world for their benefit while exporting cheap shit at us. This didn't happen with the US in the 90s because it was playing by free market rules and was creating actual things that could be shared with everyone else. The internet, GPS, high quality services, are US made and everyone could use them. China only shares cheap plastic stuff to get our money fast.The US may be resource hungry but it's nowhere near China. The Chinese will siphon the usable sand out of a river to build a city that will be abandoned before it's fully made.Western corporations have become "dystopian" because they now have to compete with Chinese labor rules which is work 996 get paid for nothing. They import 3rd workers because they need cheap labor. This kind of pressure stems from China trying to become the sole producer and consumer of everything worldwide.
>>533390459The entire thing was a fucking embarrassment for us and you are coping hard. Seethe more faggot, I'm sure being so out of touch with reality is infuriating
>>533395136This is a kvetching jew.
>>533390299>btw western civ died in 1945.true.literally everything that Hitler predicted what is going to happen lest the jew win has come to fruitionyou must know, but most people dont, that argentina was first world country pre-wwiihad the good guys won, its not just europe and the northern western world that would have turned out differently, but when kikes would have lost power in north america, south america would have also turned out very differently as the monkes would have been kept in check instead of letting them take overwwii turning out wrong has destroyed the world and its probably unfixable at this point
>>533395166yeah this if you're going to go to another war for israel at least do it properly now you're letting them win and blockade the straiteven the jewish wars against libya, iraq and afganistan although messes were much less embarrassing than this limp dick show
>>533391016Those people with our flags are usually them, that's why.And some others on VPNs
>>533393738The physical and philosophy didn't break down, the enlightenment era faggots were all midwits that didn't understand theology.
when facebook and the iphone came out is when shit started getting really weird
>>533391197Idk have you not saw how this place has changed?
>>533391888You do realise that NATO gave them all the reasons in the world to hate us these last decades?You can't except to turn their countries to shit, fund terrorist groups and them not wanting to destroy you.American fatigue.
>>533390386Yup I was bullied hard and graduated in 2009. I was and still am a short balding midget with a small dick. Fuck this life
>>533391016>It pains me seeing retards in the UK and other European nations accepting this regression in societyHoly fucking shit you are retarded. Europe died in 1945 and the EU is just an extension of the american jewry.We literally can't do anything over here nascent political movements like Nordfront are immediately killed by american jewryEU forces down migrants and "holocaust denial" and "anti-discrimination" laws down our throats and nobody can do shit about itAnd even though UK voted to leave exactly so it'd stop, well UK has their own jews and good ties with american jewry so they were made an example of and shitskin migration and police state speech policing was only turned tighter to show that you dont have escapePeople seem to have already forgotten because their it seems everyones attention span cant span even a few short fucking years, that when Brexit went through there was a growing sentiment in many other EU countries of their own exits but just like the jews showed that Brits didnt get what it wanted, that they only got poorer and got even more migrants and speech laws, it took all the wind out of the sails of any Exit movements and the whole discussion shifted out of the overton window
>>533388621>t. boomer
>>533395698And when there is even a glimmer of hope for humanity, like when Iceland was going to ban the genital mutilation of little children, ADL and american kikes immediately spring to action and make them go back, again making everyone lose hopeThe largest American exports are kikery and niggardry and doing this fucking turn-around as if Europe is at fault here and driving all this migration bullshit is fucking insane and so fucking infuriatingHad America stayed the fuck out we'd now be living in a jew-free White utopia of the Reich
>>533393475dood email me im interested in buildings / architechture and zoning for development etc memecoinpirate@protonmail.com
>>533388403Everyone remembers fondly the time when they were in their 20's. So older people will tell you that the 80's were better and had better music, their older peers will say that the 70's were PEAK etc
>>533393475>Like always, in every technological revolution, there are millions of naysayers who want to shit on itAnd they were always right.Retard.
western civilization as such ended in 1945
>>533391888>You realize Muslims have always hated western countries, rightAnd it wouldnt matter to us one bit without the jew opening the gates for them. They could sit in their shitskin lands hating western countries all they want and it'd have literally zero effect on us.Only after jews opened borders to shitskins and then use USA to bomb shitskin lands and sent their refugees to our homes it started to affect usKilling the jews saves the world. Otherwise everything is doomed. It really is simple as that. We are running out of time though, USA for example has introduced so many browns its starting to border on infeasible to get all of them out, exactly as jews planned>The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this Country. We [Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigory for about a half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible—and makes our constitutional constraints against bigotry more practical than ever."- Earl Raab, The Jewish Bulletin, 9th Feb 1993, p. 23America was turned from the largest White ethnostate to ever exist to a half-brown shithole in just 60 short years, imagine what its going to be in 60 more if jewish breathing is not stopped
>>533389460>Try to imagine only seeing White faces and only hearing English spoken. Niggers are an abstraction that exists in a part of town you never go to. You've never even seen a spic. That was life in the 90s.By the late 90s, after NAFTA, in the Southwest up to Colorado, Mexicans were flooding in everywhere, turning whole neighborhoods of thousands of people into 95%+ Mexican neighborhoods of people straight from Mexico.The rest of the country conveniently forgets this because it didn't happen there until later.
2007 was the last good year
society did peak in the 1890s
Ah yes, the heckin based trad 80s-90s when every TV show and movie had a mixed race crime-fighting duo teaming up to fight the KKK/Aryan Nation, or it was a high school comedy where the 5'5" Jewish nerd kid is unfairly bullied by football jocks that look like Nazi supermen and the 5'5" Jewish nerd kid gets revenge in the end by boning the jock's cheerleader girlfriend.Yes, that 80s-90s.
>>533395234we weren't really first world fin bro, late 19th century early 20th we were just being economically sacked by bongland, to feed their rothschild controlled masonic empire, allowed by local pro britain also freemasonic politicians/leaders. but yes, i agree mostly in what you are saying
>>533395585you are a jewand no, im not a sand person like your picrel implies, they are your brothers, not mine
>>533396246Time to practice what you preach and post a timestamp :D
>>533388403The 80s 90s and 00s shared the peak. It ended in sep 11 2001 officially. That’s when the synogogue of satan signalled the return of their war on you. Everything outside those three decades is shit.
>>5333884032012 was the end of the world
>>533396205looks good to mein 1920s argentina had higher gdp than france
>>533396345but i admit i dont know enough about argentine history i read upon it a long time ago and what i remember is the basic gist of it that it started great and then monkes took over and turned it into shitbecause "democracy" says that niggers vote is as important as yours
>>533388403America and Americans are not Western. Much like Jews are not Western neither are Americans. Americans are much more Jewdaicied than they are Westernised. Nobody would a call a Jew, a Westerner. Americans and Jews see themselves as lions but are much like rats instead.
>>533396300here's your stamp kike
>>533390257>A lot of people thought it did. "The end of history" was a popular idea. Neo-liberal, market lead economies were seen as the end point of a grand historical project that could be traced back to hundreds or thousands of years.The "end of history" still dominates in elite minds, from academia to the oligarchs. They are stuck in the same patterns of thinking as they've been in for decades. They'll say the "end of history" was a false idea, but their behavior remains the same.
>>533396477Weirdly sus that you're so triggered
>>533388403it peaked on june 1914
>>533388621his wife was a man
>>53338840390s were great, 80s were better00s onward all went to shit in the west
>>533396560i hate the jews like you wouldn't believe, they've ruined my home and the entire white civilization
>>533396784Are you even white though
>>533396345all countries looked good back in the day, compared to today globohomo bullshit and post modern jewish architecture.and the gdp thing, like i told you, we had a model for exporting our food to bongs and other masonic controlled societies. It may looked good on paper statistics, but in the end it was just more of the same, local politicians and bussinessman who were slaves to jewish bankers and freemasons to exploit the country and its people. nothing good would come from that
>>533390892>It’s not an American thing, the Soviet Union lost against Afghanistan for the same reason, and China lost against Vietnam after the US left. It’s too expensive and time consuming for an empire to get bogged down with that shitEmpires are always stretched thin, since this is the nature of empire. Grab as much resources and money from as many places as possible. The price of doing this is to play a constant balancing act so you don't lose one area while devoting resources to another.It makes empires strong and weak simultaneously.
>>533393931I don't disagree with your point, but pertinent to my post is that grandma was 41 in '63 and lived through the depression and WW2.
>>533388403I was a child in the 90s, but you can tell the 90s were great when the "counter-revolution" for fucking Gen-X niggers were "LE BREAKING FROM LE MATRIX!" where they didn't want stability or doing the office job because it's LE BORING, and "finding le purpose!"We have zoomies and millennials who would kill people for a cushy office job in the modern day, instead of working at a fast food joint or doing uber drive.
>>533390631>In my experience America post WW2 always underestimates its enemies significantly. It is like they think the people they are fighting are retarded savagesWell, most of them were nonwhite so that's a good estimate.
>>533396976i know that london certainly isn'tthis shit would never be happening in the Reichif all the jews were dead, we'd still be living in White utopiasunfortunately if the people don't realize that the browning won't stop until jews are dead, we are all doomed
>>533397211...so are you?
>>533388403yes, Im 50 and can confirm that civilization peaked sometime between 1986 and 1996.
>>533388403IDK, I'm 48 and In my opinion it peaked in the late 80s early 90s, 1993 was the most awesome year that I can ever remember.
>>533391088>But the 80s were before things got "Tainted". You could walk into any mall here in my state in 1983 and never worry about niggers, fights, drugs, or decaying structures. You saw fountains, and huge arcades, and great restaurants. Our local neighborhood had towns of mom and pop stores and you never even heard of any other "major retail" store outside of Sears or Kmart, and the mom and pop stores always beat them in quality and selection.A big part of our decline has been Big Finance converting all the money made by the local mom and pop stores into profits for giant chain stores that go to Wall Street, thus bleeding the small towns and cities.The big megacities are sucking the life out of the rest of the country.And yep, in the early 80s, not much of this was happening yet, aside from the old Sears, which had been around since the 1800s, a few other big stores, but not yet Walmart, which was confined to the South.Walmart grew like a fucking weed by undercutting everyone else on prices, being propped up by Big Finance capital to run on very tiny margins or sometimes not even make a profit while knocking everyone else out of business. Then, when Walmart was the main game in town, they jacked up prices to repay their investors with profits too.Amazon followed the same model, being mostly unprofitable for its first couple decades but monopolizing online retail, then cranking up the prices. The right doesn't want to admit the role of corporate greed in America's downfall, but until they do, if they do, they won't be able to hammer together a coherent worldview to address our problems.
>>533396514>They'll say the "end of history" was a false idea, but their behavior remains the same.its absolutely bizarre. Even Fukuyama has distanced himself from the book."the end of history" thesis has underpinned some of the worst foreign policy decisions in american history.
>>533391163>It wasn’t just 9/11. Columbine was also a big part of this- those edgy teens making DOOM wads of their school, planning stuff with the internet… it blew the lid on the whole thing. Slashdot did a pretty good set of commentary articles on it back in the day, Into the Hellmouth, where they described the many tortured kids who were beaten up in the following weeks for having had the gall of being computer nerds. Do you remember going to the computer room during lunch time instead of going outside? There was always something more entertaining to do in there… trying to get around the pathetic early security restrictions and have some funI lived in Colorado a few miles from Columbine when it happened, and was just finishing high school. People there were fucking nasty to any misfit kids after Columbine. Even teachers would insult the kids who didn't fit in, and school staff too. It was like systematic harassment from adults running the schools against all the kids who weren't jocks and preppies, since all the misfit kids were now deemed extremely dangerous, not just dorks or misfits.
>>533397251of course i am, i already said im not a sand person like youshit you jews really cant read can you
>>533396594There's an argument to be made for this. Pic related is a great book about the world that was killed between 1914 and 1945. Basically the second Thirty Years War.
>>533397537>Doubt
>>533391883>50s-70s was the time to be alive. now we're in the shadow of the western peakThe relative wealth of the US, compared to the rest of the world, from 1945 until the early 70s when we had the oil crisis, when productivity gains decoupled from wages, and when the gold standard ended, is hard to overstate.A relative of my dad was a lineman for the county and made $20 per hour in 1969, now equivalent to some $170 per hour according to "official" inflation calculators of the US government. And of course those always lowball the actual inflation.A teenager starting a job at $3.50 an hour in 1970 was like starting at $30 per hour nowadays.Even the America of the 1980s was relatively poor compared to the America of the 1960s.
>>533389221I sort of agree. The Moon Landing (regardless of whether real or fake) was the peak of our civilization. 70s were drugged and degernate and by the 80s, jews were in peak mind control with cable television spewing primr rot and Hollywood filth; VHS in 80s punped porn into every single house. WASPs were in severe decline. By 90s, we were just enjoying the last late fruits of the civilization. But it peaked at the moon landing.
>>533392015>No but it appears that way because many of us were alive in the 90s and 90s-present are the sharpest and steepest period of our civilization’s decline. Truthfully, it peaked right before the world wars. We could reach a new peak again but it would take epoch-defining world-historical scale wars and revolutions and would only last about a generation or two before terminal and irreversible decline sets in.In terms of creativity in thought, the most dynamic era of Western Civilization, post-Classical, was the 1700s for philosophy of the most basic and broad kinds of ideas, and the 1800s to the mid 1900s for the physical sciences. Philosophy hasn't generated a big idea in a century and the sciences have stagnated for a few decades now, at least.
>>533397748>a fake event was the peak of our civhow appropriate
>>533389609As someone who was born after 2000 in a dying European country It's unimaginable for me to think the majority of the population could be younger than 40.
>>533388403NIGGERS!
>>533396594>At the beginning of the 20th century:>Napoleon's empire fell, and France was now a Republic going through the Belle Epoque with a massive resurgence of the arts and a refurnishing of Paris to make it the most beautiful city in the world.>England had just finished the Victorian Era and was now entering the Edwardian period with a massively rising Middle Class. They still had the British Empire, and South Africa and Rhodesia were still under their control.>America was going through the Gilded Age and struck HUGE in oil, the railroad reached the West, the steel industry was booming, and art was being revitalized, where a lot of the lavish mansions we fawn over today in museums under the Beaux-Arts architecture, and Art Deco was being used in NYC construction.>Germany won the Franco-Prussian War and was beginning to see the start of the German Reich. Germany was a powerhouse that fueled Europe's industry and had so many munitions to last them for several wars.>All of Europe still had its colonies in Africa and was extracting rubber, oil, gold, and platinum/manganese.>Whites were 30% of the world's population.We could have had a forever prosperity, but cracker faggots decided to throw that all away, launching themselves into apocalyptic wars and muddying their nations to irrecoverable states.
>>533392750>still optimism in the 2010s until covid. since 2022 it is peak clown gay worldKek what, the 10s were even gayer than now because atleast normies call out the jew now.Is this board full of unironic gen alpha that can't remember the 10s or something?2022 was just the start of confrontation between great powers, not a cultural shift.
>>533388621Are you really Baltic? Crime peaked in the 70's everywhere in the West.>>533389609
Probably not. How would we know? Maybe the 1790's were better. The mid to late nineties were awesome, I remember, but how on earth can I compare it to previous centuries?
>>533398152We were not part of the west in the 70s. I'm just speaking from what i see as the peak. That's where things shifted. Civil rigihts, money got debased and all the other goodies that came with commie subversion.
>>533388403If you mean the 1890s then you'd be correct.
>>533397712it had to have been such a great time to make a livinghave to be ultra specialized and addicted to adderall to make a mere 100k a year now. barely going to be able to afford a house either. cant afford more kids. would be so tight to just make enough to own land and a house. fuck.
>>533398152the country was really young in the 70s. one of the reasons crime is lower now because a third of the entire population is retirees who are basically removed from the pool. forensics and deleaded gasoline / paint have probably helped too.there were real issues back in 70s too. but being able to make a decent living like back then would be so great.
>>533396594This anon gets itWhite civilization has literally never recovered from the impacts of WWI and basically every major problem in western society today can trace its origins back to the desperate struggle of WWI
In the Netherlands it's not even controversial.
>>533397455>>They'll say the "end of history" was a false idea, but their behavior remains the same.>its absolutely bizarre. Even Fukuyama has distanced himself from the book.>"the end of history" thesis has underpinned some of the worst foreign policy decisions in american history.It's the professional class, who also have all the authority in society, who still believe in the End of History nonsense. The bottom 80% know the world continues changing, but the top echelon cannot accept it because they're making good money, have good benefits, and are awaiting big pensions in their 50s so they can retire for 30 years and live large.So they play make believe and lie to themselves that society will remain the same, and rich enough to pay their pension, and the world order won't change, so America will still be very rich by selling dollars in exchange for real goods. To think otherwise would be for them to admit those big pensions aren't coming in the future and they bet on the wrong horse. They won't accept this, so we have a society that'll keep making dumb decisions, on the assumption that the world has stopped changing or can be forced to stop changing.
>>533399992>White civilization has literally never recovered from the impacts of WWI and basically every major problem in western society today can trace its origins back to the desperate struggle of WWIAnd we can trace it back further, to the origins of world war 1: The New Imperialism. After Germany unified in 1871, Britain and France no longer felt comfy and like they'd remain on top just due to inertia or momentum. Now, Britain and France felt threatened, so Europe went into a hyper-nationalist frenzy of countries competing with each other.But they didn't want the competition to spill over into Europe, so they kept it outside Europe: grabbing colonies as fast as possible around the world, but mostly in Africa and Asia.This is when the world went truly global. Globalization has been a constant since the 1880s or so, when the world was linked up into one system by the European empires. They had industrial technology by then to hold it all together: telegraph, railroads, steamships, modern banking where money could be wired in minutes to another continent for the sake of international finance. This globbling up of the world was the beginning of the end for Europe. The competitive fervor couldn't be held at the periphery forever, and in 1914 it happened -- the thing everyone knew could happen, and was dreading, but no one with power was willing to suggest that the European countries should settle the fuck down and stop pushing things to the limit.War exploded in Europe after decades of intense competition and that was the beginning of the end of the West. The world war now global and has been global ever since, albeit with a major contraction in global trade and movements starting with World War I.The volume of world trade and international capital flows seen in 1913 wasn't matched again until about 1993. But nonetheless, from the New Imperialism onward, every major power has been fighting over the poor countries,
>>533388403Yes. 60s-90s was the peak for Whites. It was the best it ever had been and I miss it dearly. Then Whites gave it all up willingly. And here we are.
>>533400717which were originally colonies of the empires built in the late 1800s but then they gained independence from the late 1940s through the 1960s and have been the battlegrounds for competition between the major powers in the world. It continues today, that competition for backward lands by the major powers, except the cast of characters has changed. Originally, it was mainly Britain, France, and Germany competing for the rest of the world, with other major powers snapping up a few colonies too, but nothing like the British and French empires. Now it's the USA and China mainly. Russia engages with the world to the extent that it's able, but is nowhere near as influential as the old USSR. Europe wants to remilitarize and begin staking its own claim to the world, independent of the US, like the good old days before 1945. Anyway, the origin of World War I was the globalization period of empire-building that began when Germany unified in 1871 and Britain and France went into an imperial frenzy to convince themselves that they could outcompete Germany. And the competition they started, i.e. all major powers competing to control the backward parts of the world, has continued nonstop since then.There was imperialism before the 1870s, sure, but the truly globalized world began when Industrial Age technologies paired with the imperial fervor after Germany's unification enabled colonization of the planet like never before. Europe created the globalized world through empire-building inspired by national competition, then lost control of the world due to two World Wars, and the major powers have been competing for the world since then. The West would have done better to settle down and not engage in a mad rush for global control, but instead expand more slowly and methodically, because when these hard-charging, now or never, hyper-competitive habits take hold, it's almost impossible to stop them until the system wrecks itself.This will all end in a new Dark Age
>>533388653 Imperialism is based as heck.
>>533401086Modern technology could unravel and not be seen again for centuries.People tend to think that technology only depends on having knowledge, so if you know how the physical world works, you can always redevelop the technologies rooted in that understanding of the physical world.But there's another factor just as necessary as scientific knowledge in the deployment of technology: capital, which in turn depends on social and international stability. The Roman Empire achieved infrastructure feats not matched until the 1800s. Why did it take so long to build things on that scale again?Lack of capital due to lack of political organization. The West was able to launch the Industrial Revolution, which required giant investments in new and unproven technologies, only after a few centuries of colonizing other lands and growing wealthy. Without wealth, industrialism isn't possible, even if you have the knowledge of how to do it. So if the world system we have today collapses, a lot of modern technology with either contract a lot or just be lost, and not due to lack of knowledge but due to lack of organization that would enable accumulation of capital. For example, if the US balkanized and broke up, we'd see lots of unrest due to the impoverishment this would cause (no more dollars buying real goods, thus a necessary shift to local manufacturing). We could reindustrialize, but it would take decades of work, and tons of money for investment, which the US might no longer have if it broke apart.So rebuilding the kind of high-tech lifestyles we have now, after such a balkanization, would require enormous amounts of social discipline in order to ensure the stability required for capital to accumulate again, so we could finance the infrastructure for a high-tech life.But with the immediate poverty of balkanization, there would be all kinds of civil unrest, from gangs going wild to militias seeking power and trying to carve their own states in the wreckage
>>533401693Any successor countries to the US after balkanization would have to maintain very tight social controls in order to prevent attacks on the remaining infrastructure by gangs and militias going to war with the successor states in an effort to build their own countries where they're in charge.Then, if the successor states could maintain control, and slowly build confidence in themselves among their populations, enough social order could be achieved to begin reinvesting in modern infrastructure. But if the US became a warzone, the high-tech way of life we have today might not be seen again for centuries or longer, like how Roman levels of infrastructure weren't achieved again until the 1800s.And this applies to all regions of the world, not just the US.Modern technology relies on capital which relies on stability and order that enable businesses and states to grow wealthy enough to engage in large infrastructure projects. If states are too unstable due to unrest or civil war, not only would the militants engage in attacks on infrastructure as a way to fight against the flailing existing state, but future expenses on infrastructure projects would also be precluded due to conditions not being right for capital accumulation and, thereafter, big outlays for mass infrastructure.If the global system goes down, most people could go back to preindustrial lives. Patches of modern infrastructure could remain in place, mainly for the elites of each society, but high-tech that we know today would be limited to the few and not extended to the many just due to lack of money to engage in mass infrastructure projects.
>>533393738> sluttiness> puritanicalism where you just masturbateis there a third way> lock down the entire internet and murder free speech under the pretense of bringing back some kind of healthy focused sexuality that has a proper 2+ birth ratewhat if i told you marriage doesnt need internet censorship to recomment it but the denormalization of marriage does? here, because this focuses on the man abandoning his family, you can post it elsewhere and say it would be cool if we could stay together for the future generations
>>533388403i still play heroes3, age of empires, counter strike, dota and world of warcraft, all of which existed in the 90s or early 2000s, and the economy was a million times better, it was insanely easy to find jobs, there were way less immigrants, movies were still good and didnt have african american lesbian main characters, the soviet union had just ended and it felt like the world was at peace
>>533393887consequences were never the same
>>533389450this
>>533395585iran appears to be the most Christian country in the world, they must be doing something right
>>533388403Europe isn't poised to be jack shit.
my 80's and 90's were full of violence, rage, bullying, evil, giant mobs of niggers who were allowed to walk around in groups of 50, shopping mall shootings, "don't wear red or blue," alcoholism, shady weed deals, burping and farting bikers, schizophrenics, retards, horrible "great" school systems, degeneracy, polaroids, shoplifting, and then some neato retarded TGIF TV sitcoms and neato music on the radio :> more racial homogeny wasn't utopian, it was just one less distraction
>>533388403It peaked in the 80's when Reagan introduced """trickle down""' economics. It's been a slow cannibalization/wealth extraction scheme since then.
>>533400799>willinglyWe were stabbed in the back. That The Matrix was a hit in 1999 wasn't just because it was a fun SF film with a great concept (though certainly not original). It was a metaphor for the world that had literally been pulled over our eyes for decades at that point. Many people had pointed it out before, but the fact that the concept resonated and stuck then speaks to it striking a nerve in the zeitgeist.
>>533401693>would require enormous amounts of social disciplineabsolutely trivial. replace the code of conduct that imposes united states snivel rights antilaw on software projects with the benedictine code. youre in the group you abide by the code and the Bible is normative on any disputes. you dont want to live like that you can leave. the amish and mennonites are doing fine. the only problem is getting rid of washington dc and its snivel rights antilaw. i think the israeli sampson option is a great plan
>>533388403>Did Western Civilization peak when the detriments of mass-immigration start to make themselves known?No, it's just nostalgia my retarded millennial manchild.
>>533402935What the fuck?
>>533389292>The '90's were great but you could see the end of that approaching with the rampant globalism beginning everywhere.>The '70's and '80's were the best and these years are what Trump remembers when he talks about "Make America Great Again"This. I sense the decline at the time. Everything just seemed to be getting worse, darker.
>>533388403No it peaked in the 18th century. >I am talking about everything from Greece to America before 9/11Greece is not Western, it was a thoroughly oriental civilisation. Like Christianity it was coopted by the West. Cultural appropriation if you will.
>>533403167reach into your soul, find the dubai, and destroy it forever - m. khamenei
>>533388403I could explain to you what it was like in the 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s But you would never understand the innocence, the purity , the beauty of the pre Jew/ nigger world. It’s shocking to me when I go back to those times in my memory, it was like being surrounded by god all the time.
>>533403271>No it peaked in the 18th century.>>I am talking about everything from Greece to America before 9/11>Greece is not Western, it was a thoroughly oriental civilisation. Like Christianity it was coopted by the West. Cultural appropriation if you will.Greece was Western in two senses, 1) It was European, and 2) The Roman Empire spread its ideas throughout Europe, so that the Greek tradition of learning is what inspired the Medieval Renaissance, the Italian Renaissance, the Scientific Revolution of the 1600s. Europeans have been looking to Greece for the example of how to think and reason since the Classical Age. As far as philosophy, yes, that peaked in the 1700s and early 1800s, and basic ideas haven't been altered much in the West since then.After philosophy's golden age in the modern West, science took off in the 1800s, but peaked in the mid 20th century and theoretical science has been stagnant for several generations now, not coming up with any new and big ideas.Now is the age of technology. Philosophy determined the method, science deployed the method, and technology is using what science brought us to build infrastructure. But without new ideas, technology will max out and stagnate too.
>>533403271are you making the geistesgeschicte a race thing? why are you assuming turkish rapebabies arent the descendants of decadent whites who had enough silver and gold in the city to defend it if they had cared to? the real question to ask of orthodoxy is why it was unable to resist the heresy of mahometus
>>533388403There was far, far, far more whites everywhere. The speed of which the Earth has been brown'ed is scary. You could go in the USA and see not a single non-white in huge areas of the country
I grew up early 80s and 90s. I still watch films from then. They're just more authentic. More innocent and fun. Not gloomy and all overly emotional. Computers were cool cos I went from a C64 and 2D gfx to a Sega mega drive then to a ps1, which blew my mind. From floppy discs and cassettes to cartridges to CDs. I remember the first gta and then when it went 3D it was a revolution. The progress was fantastic. You don't get those great leaps nowadays.You couldn't just sit in all day, you had to go out and meet people if you were bored. Socialising mattered. I knew everyone in my neighborhood and we'd go out and play all the time. UK was still a colonial power, Hong Kong was British territory. They weren't talking about human rights then, funnily enough.I think a lot of financial decisions made things worse. Governments issued Fiat currency, got more free with money and didn't care how it would affect people later. My parents bought their first house, a 2 bedroom flat, for about 14K.Although the net is useful now I think it might have been better without it back then. You didn't hear about every bad thing that happened everywhere on the planet all the time. You were in your own community, what happened in your neighborhood was as far as you knew. News was on twice a day and that's it. Lunatics couldn't all find each other in different places via the net and then form mad cult groups and go out protesting nonsense.
>>533388403>1990sNo fucking way.It peaked after the civil war before the world wars.I know because I was in my teens in the 90s and I personally knew and spoke with both my great grandparents which both told me how much better things were when their parents were in their prime and why
>>533390528I remember playing quake arena on a dream cast all night repeatedly. When I phoned the phone company to ask what the bill was so far the lady on the other end was reading out the call durations, absolutely astonished.>>8 hours! 14 hours! 16 hours!Hahaha. Was fun though.
>>533403271>Anglo telling people who is western and who is European Hearty kekYou're not European.You never were.If it weren't for Rome arriving and teaching you how to name your villages and where to send your piss and shit, you'd still be soggy, swamp dwelling, retards drawing circles on your face and fighting each other in the nude.The Mediterranean is the heart of Europe."England" and Scandinavia are not Europe.
>>533388403when I was a kid in the 90s I used to go to the city with my mom to visit my dad at work. it was awesome, not incredibly filthy except for the odd block here and there, and the worst crime I ever heard about was a lady getting raped when she was walking home alone in the middle of the nightnow 30 years of extreme leftist policies later every block is covered in garbage, graffiti, rundown or closed businesses, violent hobos, drug addicts, illegal spics chinks and poos and a frustrating amount of groids, and there's a new shooting or stabbing every week
>>533404511>Extreme leftist That's a funny way to spell their name.
>>533391192Personally, I think buddhism offers a purpose greater than one's self, or maybe confucianism. Not that I follow any doctrine or religion. I've read a lot of the Bible and I can get through it, it's a good story. I've tried to read the quran multiple times but it's just a smooth brained uneducated caveman ranting at you. I can't get past the first 10 pages.
>>533388403I'm 40, I feel like 1995 to 2001 was really good, things started to change a lot after 9/11, but I feel like everything started to decline rapidly around 2008 and even more around 2012.
>>533404625>it's just a smooth brained uneducated caveman ranting at youand if you wont listen to the Bible, maybe you can listen to moehamhead that women cant be allowed to initiate divorce proceedings because theyll destroy civilization for a chance to suck weinsteins egg shaped dick
>>533388403energetic nanocomposites
>>533388403the 90s were great. pre 911 and fibancial crisis
>>533404625most historical prophets figures like solomon or joseph smith, you dont know anything about their harems except that the greed for a harem led them some distance into heresy, while some, like david or moehamhead, the less you know about the harem the more you respect about the man
Raprock, wrestling was popular and you wouldn't be called gay for watching it. Could jerk off to nude pictures and didn't need more and more depraved pornography to get off. Yeah it was the best.
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>>533388403It had 3 peaks.The real peak - the roaring 20s.Pure heroin over the counter. Pure coaine in pharmacies. No holobunga Jew rot creeping up on every nook and cranny of society. Booming economy. 99% white, everything extremely affordable. Limitless entertainment options, and social events. Beautiful art deco.Then the 1960s - the peak for the average American - homeownership, economy Then the 1990sThe peak for the consumerist, media etc.
>>533406916>The real peak - the roaring 20s.>Pure heroin over the counter. Pure coaine in pharmacies.>No holobunga Jew rot creeping up on every nook and cranny of society. Booming economy.prohibition, divorce, but contraception had been outlawed under the comstock laws so a gangsters girlfriend was his main squeeze
it peaked under obamna. it's been a sharp decline ever since
>>533388967>Best time to raise kids >Best time to be a kid What was it like for college aged people? Also we should point out that the world between 1950 and 2010 was largely the same. People watched TV, talked on the phone, kids played outside (or not). Ethnicity and demographics was largely continuous. Morality was failure similar.Rapid advancements in cellphones is really the first thing that “broke up” a comfortable status quo. That’s probably the first time that someone in their 70s was actually disconnected from everyone else.
>>533388843>Yes... the 1790s.
>>533388403What zoomers call the 90s and create vaporwave and liminal spaces to is actually the latest 80s. This will be lost to history as retards continue to churn out content unknowingly insisting that it was from the 90s. This realization has caused me to rethink everything ive been taught about history, and of how little value it is.
They sowed distrust with 9/11 then imported millions to justify that distust, so youre distracted by the nigger hellscape and don't figure out 9/11 was jewish bullshit.
>>533388653You can't build a real military in 2025 because there's nothing worth killing for. And no, only libtards and nigger races think killing changes anything at all, which is why the world looks the way it does.
>>533390036Yeah, desert storm was like a reverse 9/11 in hindsight. Zoomers will never understand this.
>>533408569Wait it's 2026, whatever.
>>533393043Hang in there anon
>>533388403No, it was already declining in the 90's. Factories closing, major corporations off-shoring everything, etc. However, things were still very good. High-school kids still worked and could afford cars. There was a lot of creativity, TV, music, movies, internet, were quite good. And more, there was a general sense of optimism for the coming millennium. Politics was something only policy wonks and total faggots gave a shit about. The idea that you wouldn't date or be friends with a person over their (mainstream) political beliefs would've been absurd.
>>533388564>If by the west you mean the US, then yes but it's because no one could compete with the US back then.Who can compete with the US now? We are the leader in both semiconductor design and AI research. Chink growth on manufacturing consumer jank has stalled out to the point where they are never going to be able to catch up with our economy. And all of EU combined has the same GDP as China's, so 2/3s of the US's. But they have even smaller growth rates. The reality is no one is competing with the US on anything. The 90s were very nice here though, I'd certainly admit to that. But that has more to do with demographics than anything else.
>>533406916>The real peak - the roaring 20s.Depends on where you lived.
>>533388403>I'm asking people older than me, was it really that great?Yes. Peak Americana was 1995.Other people might have differing opinions, but they are fucking wrong. I got a college degree, no student debt, walked into a job that paid 22 an hour in 1990's money then bought a 3 bedroom, 2 bath house in town for 167,000.Worked 40 hours a week and lived like a king. It was glorious.Anyone under 40 has no idea what has been stolen from you.
>>533388403Female gymnastics peaked in the 90s>Nobody was shaking their ass for higher tumbling points.>There wasn't any routines with ungraceful rap music
No the west died in 1945.
>>533388403REALREAL
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>>5333884031860 was the peak.
