Okay, hear me out /pol/:>Demons are real but they're basically just old names for specific mind viruses that evolved alongside language and cognition>By taking one of these demons in, you generate an actual neurological configuration change that is encoded by all language you've heard describe the demon.>They can also come into existence if you stop controlling your animal urges and let your brain's scheduler degenerateTrannies are a great example. Their current incarnation is basically completely fabricated but they often feel drawn to Lilith, the demon of passive female homosexuality.Gooning is another. It's lust driven but the behavior only shows up in primates when they're in captivity like a zoo or a country.Religions are basically the mental version of a regulator, they provide corrections to the underlying system to protect it from instability.That is why we have a God region in our brains, it is basically human microcode.
>>533399726Danish education everyone.No need for a comment.
>>533400125Not my fault you're a moron
>>533399726>they often feel drawn to LilithThe matrix tech introduces you to some female presence in your mind. It's some AI generated hell slop though. Killer queen with laser beams is a more honest description than anything pleasant.She's not really a big character in it though, just a recognizable symptom. Like when a drunk starts talking about how he met a strange invisible lady, you have a good idea about what he went through.Government bullshit until proven otherwise.
>>533400688I think you're referring to what Jung calls the Anima. But we basically have both male and female in our minds. They can both become corrupted and it shows up in many different ways.Trannies are obviously cases where their masculine self is totally suppressed/oppressed by the female self and since men only contain a rough and basic female template they can only crudely estimate being a woman. But they certainly feel some of the same forces girls do.Now for the "aesthetic" trannies, the ones who do it because they like how it looks are probably just porn addicts who want to mimic the thing their sexuality revolves around.
>>533399726Stop the Weed for a while.
>>533399726Black men give better blowjobs than white women
>>533401069Everything has a reason. Look for it.Is it really so unbelievable for a phenomena like cognition to be burdened by the same kind of corrupting forces a biological system endures? We have many examples of mind viruses throughout time. Also mind parasites. And language is the vector they spread through.>>533401167Niggerfaggot.
>>533399726I think those who study languages and the roots of it are more knowing than most so you might be onto something, anonWhat do you think of witchcraft and spells? Is it also placebo on some aspect that just configures the brain into a setting like you say?
Ops pic remind me of the energy when charlotte gainsbourg filmed a sex scene with 2 nigslol the french enjoy their lot in life as rulers of the 3rd world
>>533401300god does not reveal himself in any of our drop in a pond chimp noises. god reveals himself without speaking. god has never spoken to anyone because he cannot speak.
>>533401374If you believe in it it can probably cause some pretty wild effects in your body. Michael Levin's research shows that the entire body is actually a distributed intelligence system, every single cell is capable of individal learning, memory and complex electrical communication. If kept alive outside the body they even build unique living structures with functionality far, far outside their normal existence. Animals are atomically intelligent, it isn't just our brains.The brain under this framework is more of a central controller/information concentrator that sends suggestions out into the system.If you believe with certainty you've cast a spell all your cells that receive that information will start organizing towards realizing it.You can heal migraine in kids by putting them into a fake MRI machine, wearing a white coat and telling them it's repairing their brain. Belief is truly powerful in a distributed system like us.>>533401437I tend to agree, but you forget an important detail: We are all made of God. God speaks through everything.
>>533401794Now I wanna take mushrooms nglHey anon also check out full . forgottenlanguages . org
>>533399726This is antisemetic
>>533401985Exactly. Judaism is a very good example of a mind parasite(much more complex than a simple virus like woke). It causes the followers to act in ways that most humans realize are inherently entropic and globally destructive for the species. If your race/religion is based on scamming God/defiling natural law, inbreeding and child sacrifice you're definitely not chosen for anything other than the eternal antagonist role.
>>533401954And I can recommend this guy:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urq7fQ_LyB0His thinking really resonated with me, I've been very skeptical about language for long now, since it appears most people are wholly incapable of understanding just how much of an abstraction it is.It's reason people see physics models as reality or decide there is no categorical difference between male and female. It builds dogmatic ideologies that force you to accept bullshit, truth and baggage together.
>>533399726>lillith>passivePlease start reading books, OP.
>>533402596I'm no demonologist, I heard a catholic exorcist refer to it in that way and he seemed to know his stuff.
>>533399726Rome was built on gooning. Edge to the goddess then visit her vestal whore in the temple when u get back from your conquest. Ancient version of anime statues.
>>533400125You’re brown or jewish, ask me how I know
>>533401794>Michael Levin's research showsKike detected
>>533399726Close, but you still missed the point. It's ideologies that can wrangle these "demons", the mind viruses. Religions are just very specific ideological frameworks that aim to destroy the egos of men, because surrendering to egos always goes wrong. That's their success. Religions have a long history of whipping people into shape mentally and establishing a monocultural feedback loop, where as ideologies have yet to accomplish that feat. Totalitarian communism still hasn't stood the test of time, but it's a potential contender in the future. But theoretically it's possible for all sorts of ideologies to give people a strong immune system to mind viruses.Also, humanity is about to integrate with technology like never before with the upcoming popularity of brain implants and religions might not survive that. People won't put up with its inconsistencies that are purposefully put into every religion, if their brains will be able access the internet at the speed of light.
>>533402875Well, he is a jew 100% due to his instant kvetching over th3 Christian God (OP never mentioned it, but jews actually can sense Christianity before everyone else)As for brown... you appear to just be giving the jew an escape. No idea why you said this. Of course jews are brown anyway.
>>533402596And I usually avoid books because I fear being impressioned and mentally limited by the author's framing. Most people think words are reality when in fact they're merely a sometimes useful abstraction.My ancestors seemingly understood this, they saw words as basically spells so they were extremely careful with them. If you called someone a faggot for example and it was a lie, he was justified in killing you.What was written down from that time period often dissuades use of language whenever possible.>>533402874Life is build on gooning inside women, so it isn't really that surprising to see an echo like that.>>533403069I don't care who produces information as long as they have proof. Bobby Fischer was also a Jew.>>533403127Most people can't even handle the current information bandwidth and default to tightly curated safe spaces or short form slop.Ideology and religion are still categorically separate from my perspective since ideology rationalizes its bullshit where religion requires blatant belief, which is fine but it can't become dogmatic or it is crushed by a more precise understanding at some point.>>533403291I think Christianity is definitely one of the healthiest religions so far, just look at Christ's most dedicated followers. They're fertile, they have community and they have sweet wives. Even in the hellscape that is the modern world, they have protection because they feel loved and worthy of life.
>>533401008No I'm referring to the matrix tech that can send you dreams and visions.You guys keep acting all enlightened and these jack asses are gonna run you over with lab created satans
>>533403701Are you saying this is a political conspiracy or why not just answer the following rather than making claims with no proper sources other than Youtube:What makes you say Lilith is about passive homo sex? Like how do you figure that what is the source? And what about all the dudes who are into femdom fisting now? What is that?
>>533403701>Most people can't even handle the current information bandwidth and default to tightly curated safe spaces or short form slop.>Ideology and religion are still categorically separate from my perspective since ideology rationalizes its bullshit where religion requires blatant belief, which is fine but it can't become dogmatic or it is crushed by a more precise understanding at some point.They don't necessarily have to do rationalization. For example a commie hippie cult could kinda work under the right circumstances too, where "peace, love and understanding" is what they build eveything on top of. That doesn't really need all that much rationalization. "Just be passive at all times and shut the fuck up, fuck you." would be their motto.I could also see a hyper aggressive death cult working. Something like what the spartans or the aztecs did. Just constant aggression and the oppression of everybody who isn't one of them.
theres no reason for Christians to sperg out about this when Jesus himself uses demons for parables and lets you in on this truth, unlike the rabbis of that time.
>>533399726The eyes, Chico, the eyes... they never lie.
>>533404169Neurolinguistic programming? I think that's what it's usually called.>>533404336I explained it earlier, it was said by a catholic exorcist. I'm just happy to be corrected if I'm wrong in my interpretation of Lilith but I don't think it changes the central point much, just a wrong example.>>533404534Of course, but the concepts underpinning ideology are often very narrow and don't try to be holistic like God. I guess I could agree they're like diet versions of religions.>>533404591Jesus was very intelligent, that I can say for sure. Must be why he was so antisemitic. There are some interesting parallels you can draw to Dionisys.
>>533399726>Demons are realAnd you can defeat them with 20 drops of Haloperidol each evening, until the voices go away.
>>533405617I know the Macron image was a bit of a jab but you should be able to read in spite of it, Frenchbro. I gave a materialist explanation. No nether realm induced mind rape arguments here, unless that is a productive way to understand the phenomena.
>>533405746Sorry I got the flag wrong, fucked by the blue light filter. But the point stands.
>>533405581Lilith doesn’t really have anything to do with homo shit whatsoever. So I’m just saying if you’re gonna post x tier stuff here at least stick to the facts.
>>533399726>Demons are memes that infect your brainI agree with the overall message, but you seem to consider demons to be real, when it's probably the other way around: Memes infect brains and are also the cause for the myths of the corresponding demons.This is the reason why you have similar obsessions across cultures and civilizations even though they don't all reference Jewish mythology like Lilith.There might be some form of deeper, realer entities that cause the memes to begin with, but I doubt they are Lilith&co.>>533405581>Jesus [..] antisemiticHe wanted to implement the Torah as it was written. His objection to the rabbis of his time was the fact that they weren't hardcore enough.
>>533405843Your word against a catholic exorcist's. Do you know of any "good" works on demonic phenomenology? I also don't presume most traditions have the same understanding of these phenomena, just like how ancient Gods could change in form and function over relatively short geographical distances.>>533406022Agreed. But lets combine the concepts and think of this:A neurological pattern emerges over time because an inclination is fed with information that expands its representation.It gains behavioral voting power in the mind.At some point, if you're susceptible, it can gain control priority of your system and direct actions.And Jesus was definitely a reformist which is why the other Jews wanted him gone, if they had followed his teachings they wouldn't be involved in nearly as much depravity as they are today. They do that because they seem themselves as superior. It takes a certain level of delusion to see parasitic predatory behavior as superior to anything but an old crusty sock.
>>533406555>Your word against a catholic exorcist'sYou haven’t linked that nigger and also demonic infestation is most rampant in Catholic zones for a reason: Catholic exorcists suck. The degree of misunderstanding is enormous.
>>533399726>picI thought you were going to say demons are real and they're black 'people. '
>>533407166I think blacks definitely represent demonic patterns much more often, probably a side effect of low IQ and the bundled low awareness of mind. Most animals are basically demons from our perspective, rapist murderers who eat their children pretty regularly.
>>533406555I had similar thoughts. The details were somewhat different, so I'll just throw them in.>A neurological patternI think it's an informational pattern. I see no reason why e.g. AIs would be immune to such kind of memetic takeover.Also a "neurological pattern" suggests that the issue could be physiological and fixable with physical intervention, when I think the "demons" are like abstract conclusion-traps where some axioms and some thinking patterns lead to more thinking patterns that spiral out of control.>A neurological pattern emerges over time because an inclination is fed with information that expands its representation.>It gains behavioral voting power in the mind.I agree. Add also ideologies and other memes and people are starting to get controlled by these entities entirely. I suggest there is a distinction between the worldly ideas that capture minds (e.g. ideologies), but also demonic thoughts (e.g. ontological evil).I wonder: What if the "soul" (the actual, spiritual you) exists and it "captured" your (physical) brain in a similar way as the demons can, except that it happened in the very beginning of your physical existence.The soul doesn't have infinite voting power in the brain, which is why even good people can be taken over by evil (outvoted), when they get sufficiently corrupted.
>>533407599When I say neurological pattern I'm referring to the electrically based information representation, so we agree on that one.But it is also true that cognition is a physical process in the world so calling it information is just going to the lowest abstraction level we currently understand. If you scanned the electrical activity in your body preciously and correlated it, you could probably even isolate these states from each other as an actual 3+1D representation, and if you ablated neurons involved it would change character or destabilize. In epilepsy for example we can laser ablate the neurons triggering it to stop the symptoms.On the soul and evil. I've come to view evil as generalized "disorder", its a highly abstract way we normally talk about it but it's very logical and you can actually deduce most healthy morals from an ordering principle, which is also what Jesus seems to have done.Disorder and the demons spreading it are very alluring to most people because it is the lowest level of energy an existence can have. An ornamental cup is a perfect illustration, very energy intensive to produce, but to break it you just have to stop caring. That is why evil seems to happen on its own, it is the default direction of nature as it seems. Life is a rebuttal to this since it farms high quality energy to drive ordering machinery.We even understand it unconsciously and express it in our language:>physical disease is called disorder>mental disease is called disorder>loss of control to drugs is called disorderIn a healthy person your decisions come from a weighting of different inputs(guilt prediction, sexuality, fear, curiosity, hunger, etc.), but if you become disordered they can all become autonomous and demonic. Epstein represents an almost complete demon, where most of those inputs are disordered and autonomous and never debate.
>>533408593And the disordered drives can then be imbued with concepts through language. The already present disorder becomes enriched and you end up with something much more complex and truly alive.
>>533399726Ive been thinking a lot about language too lately, how the jews make up words like “racism” and “anti semitism” the paralyze any efforts to effect changeAnd then we ourselves have our counter memes, “cuckservative” destroyed the GOP and paved the way for trump to takeoverWe definitely oughta look into it
>>533399726>That is why we have a God region in our brains,we don't have a god region in our brains
>>533408903If you talk to normalfags you will come to realize they mostly operate in abstract language space. They don't even tie the words and concepts to reality or attempt to make them coherent, they mostly tie them to neurolinguistic programming in entertainment media they've been exposed to.Their emotions for example are governed by a system designed by CIA/Jewish programming from Hollywood, so that's why they seem so docile and unresponsive, they need a pre-programmed reference to understand how to react even though their actual emotions are autonomous and suppressed.Retards are mostly unaffected because they don't pick up on the bullshit information they're fed, they're more receptive to niggardry which is why the CIA revolutionized ghetto culture.>>533409291Oh but we do, it's called the pMFC, if you suppress it your belief in God, your threat detection and your tribal in-group preference all implode.
>>533408593>>533408808Language is a bit vague and I think it's good to differentiate between disorder (as in divergence from normal behavior) and anti-order (as in active deconstruction of order).There are ideas (especially greed and hedonism) that lead to overall reduction of well being (physical and mental deterioration and will power), but there is also actual, literal evil which motivates people to destroy themselves or their surroundings.I can't prove it, but literal evil is real and it seems to be able to take over people, who have reduced their own resistance sufficiently.Drugs, magic, sin are causing cracks inside one's psyche through which literal demons get into your mind. And when they take over the host starts desiring the deconstruction and destruction of everything good.If God is real, then these demons are the spiritual, active antithesis to God's creation.
>>533409831>magicJust to elaborate: I mean summoning magic, where the practitioners commune with demons and other entities.From my experience the practitioners become quite hateful over time and start to deteriorate in various ways, which reinforces their spiteful views.Sadly the most harmful entities seem to be the most popular among young witches and magicians: Ishtar, Egyptian deities, Lilith, Lucifer, Hekate
>>533409432And White people are trained from childhood, through trauma based conditioning, to strongly suppress their pMFC. That is the foundation of most of our disorder. Radical individualism, secularism and liberalism are powerful disordering attractors since effective group organization is what costs the most energy collectively. Great leaders are people who have the energy and understanding to form logical and coherent organizations and to drive people to expend energy for the sake of group coherence. Democracy is maximally incoherent since it promotes internal decoherence in both goal and structure, an obviously unstable system rife with feedback loops.>>533409831Of course, not all divergence from the norm is true disorder. The evil you speak of, I think, is this process of your "observer" allowing one of your sins(animalistic drives) to take the keys to the kingdom because you have decided it is fine to not fight it - that is the fall.Drugs weaken your ability to prioritize actions and predict outcomes because they are by their very nature more desirable than most things in the world. But there is a very real possibility that a timeless construct in reality is prompting us with sins to lead us toward disorder, much like a parasite that calms the immune system through mimicked chemical signaling to make the host body a more fitting ecosystem for them. Something has to influence the random events that lead to us and other systems around us.And what's even more perplexing is that it is all God. God is the world and God made the world. So everything is God's will. We seem to be proof that God can internally differentiate into very small subsystems that are unaware of their own nature.>>533410334This seems to be a common effect. Kek basically made /pol/ help with getting Trump elected and now the world is chaosmaxxing, interesting coincidence.But I can't tell if that is a consequence of the worship of the abstract aspects Kek represents.
>>533399726I read Snow Crash once too anon
>>533410780Because if you worship and through the collective unconscious give your collective intelligence and energy to a conceptual being, it does seem realistic if it gains some form of sentience and power to act in the world, through us.>>533410820I don't know what that is, is it good?
I wish I knew people who want to discuss these subjects IRL, it seems to require a really funky skizo+autist mix that just mostly doesn't happen. 4chan is definitely the best place I've found so far even with the many psyops deployed on here.
>>533411737There used to be some discord servers that were quite good for discussing such things, much better than 4chan, but the ones I knew about are all gone.I wish I knew about other such places.4chan is a very bad place for good discussions. Even without shills you sometimes have some mod simply deleting a thread after an hour for no reason.
>>533412300Gotta keep the slopmill clean from cattle wandering off the pasture. /x/ can be okay-is but it mostly discards physical reality, which is why I post these things on /pol/. /sci/ is okay too but then you get the other problem where radical materialism dominates and induction isn't allowed.
>>533399726close but you have it backwards.Demons are spirits as in entities without bodies that have consciousness. Some demons have specific perversions for certain things such as pedophilia, canibalism, necrophilia, racemixing, feminism, homosexuality, etc. Those demons when you open yourself up to those things have an easier time of exerting influence on your own consciousness.It's pretty fucking clear honestly and is pretty much the same thing that various religious texts including the Holy Bible say.Get with the fucking program Denfag
>>533412864I just don't want to be so certain in my understanding. I respect the truth of Christ but I also understand that all information we receive is partial, imperfect and even if it was perfect our understanding wouldn't be.I have seen what you would call a demon during a walk with a friend, luckily we both saw it so no insanity there. I've seen the same fucker during sleep paralysis before that event and after.Demons are also universally recognized in most religions so people are experiencing something distinct. Guess there's a reason 30% of the new testament is just exorcisms.The Bible also differentiates between healing disease and exorcism.But I don't think we truly understand their nature. Just like we used to not mechanistically understand diseases of the body very well.
>>533399726nah bro you're appealing to a scientific paradigm to legitimize something you know to be fundamentally true. demons exist. they exist outside the technological linguistic paradigm tho they have the most amount of power there. no need to reinvent the wheel my friend, your insights are valuable but they are not definitive.
>>533413384other interesting ontological roots for demonic activity: parasites, disembodied nephilim, previous religions deities
>>533399726>>533400235You're probably right. Sounds like anyone who is demon possessed should just be ruthlessly and swiftly killed to prevent the spread.
>>533413384>I respect the truth of Christ but...but what?!stfu you imbecile. You either trust in God the almighty, the source of all truth, the maker of heaven and earth, or you are a blasphemer and a heretic.You want to be a blasphemer, that's fine, go fuck yourself, no one cares and this isn't your place to spill your feelings. Go write it in your diary, shove it up your ass, and go neck yourself instead.You're not certain? Go open up the bible and ask God for understanding or go listen to some theologians smarter than you (plenty of them). There's even people like Sam Shamoun who will spell it out to you like you have the attention span and IQ of a fucking goldfish. Do some work you heretic.
>>533413712>A rational well argued and studied argument is not acceptable I will only accept jewish nonsense written by pedophiles from two thousand years ago
>>533413929You are literally retarded. You should be locked up and studied to find out how your brain got so fucked. Daneanon is right and you are insane, stupid and a danger to all normal good people.
>>533413712I'm not appealing to anything specific. I'm just implying that anything which affects physical reality can be attacked with science, it's how we've tackled many horrible conditions and basically killed them(biological demons, in a way). At one point people did not belive in disease as a physical entity and look at us now. Demons could be the same way. And all that knowledge was built on a base of religious healers trying their hardest to help people who were suffering. I belive the scientific method can bring us closer to God by letting us interpret His highest bandwidth communication, which is nature.>>533413929You're being a zealot, what did Jesus think of those? I love God and I want to understand what he has made for us. Even the evil or horrible parts since there is a reason for them to exist.
>>533414018disgustingfind God blasphemer, before hell finds you.
>>533414060Don't listen to that dangerous madman. You're right. He should be put down like the rabid dog he is.
Very interesting ideas, anon. No question that there's more than matter.Too many people act like we've already figured everything out, when every year we're learning things that shatter what we thought were natural laws, like that our heart rates and immune systems were beyond conscious control. 95% of doctors and scientists will argue with that, even though it's been demonstrated and proven wrong. They'll also deny that breathing has anything to do with oral health.
>>533414150I already found God. You didn't. He will tell you "Get away from me, I don't know you." When you die.
>>533399726Demons are from mesopotamian religion
>>533414060>what did Jesus think of those?like you would know>faggot with no basic understanding of Christian dogma wants others to speak more softly in name of Jesus.you are a heretic and only the weak faggots and crypto jews will defend you.humble yourself and do some research instead of questioning Christ or saying something blasphemous like "I respect the truth of Christ but..."but what nigger? but what?!
>>533414213as he rightfully should, for I am a sinner and all I can ask of him is his mercy so that the rightful judgement that I deserve may be taken from me. I pray his mercy may be shown to me.
>>533414197That's because these people have perverted the scientific method to be a purely statistical system. They don't even listen to their own conclusions or they would've realized the entire world is constructed from electromagnetic energy, their own models even show it. Logically from that it follows that time is truly an illusion and a side effect of unstable condensed energy. It also gives us another interesting fact: the electromagnetic field records every part of our existence down to the tiniest detail and conserves that information for an eternity. So God definitely knows it all.>>533414358But I also recognize that human hands and human minds(infinitesimally small subsets of God) are incapable of perfect understanding. This is why even inside Christianity there is major strife around even the basic fundamentals and ever denomination sees the others as blasphemous. That is human.
>>533413967>I will only accept jewish nonsenseDemons that take over people are probably the most prevalent element in various myths all around the world.Also if you want to understand the existence of actual, literal evil hang out with the wrong crowd for a while and you'll witness people that are possessed by demons. And no, it's not just psychosis or other mental illness.
>>533414651>perverted the scientific method to be a purely statistical systemAgreed. Higher education stifles actually creative thinking and intellectual exploration. No denying that learning is good, but these people are forced to just obey the rules placed upon them and follow the guidelines already in place. Which again isn't awful, but it makes it really hard to find anything actually new, rather than just researching more and more minute details about what's already known.A big sign of this is the obsession with peer review, as if science and truth requires group consensus.
>>533414772I have way more experience with this than you do, anon. It's not demons. It's people. They chose to be evil. Demons are an excuse made up by evil people who want you to forgive them for their sins because deep down they know God will not. Wake up.>>533414507Read the Bible anon. Your fake sincerity won't work. Calling on His Name won't work because you don't actually believe in the real God. You're an evil liar and you're going to get exactly what you deserve. Obliteration.
>>533403701>And I usually avoid books because I fear being impressioned and mentally limited by the author's framing. Most people think words are reality when in fact they're merely a sometimes useful abstraction.So you're a retard who might be influenced by the least influential method of transferring information as you have an unlimited time to refute it for yourself. Die.>My ancestors seemingly understood this, they saw words as basically spells so they were extremely careful with them. If you called someone a faggot for example and it was a lie, he was justified in killing you.Your ancestors probably did consider language magic because you seem to be descended from the modern african or at least relatively on the same level of intelligence.>What was written down from that time period often dissuades use of language whenever possible.No it usually just means most people didn't have access to education because depending on the period you're pointing to most people alive were likely slaves or worse.Please, kill yourself.
>>533399726This picture just gives off massive gay vibes. Like it really looks like a screenshot from a gay porn. Macron looking like he's about to get gangbanged by these two niggers.
>>533414651>But I also recognize that human hands and human minds(infinitesimally small subsets of God) are incapable of perfect understanding. This is why even inside Christianity there is major strife around even the basic fundamentals and ever denomination sees the others as blasphemous. That is human.Arguably the only borderline non-retarded thing you've said so far.Accept your understanding is low. You are likely wrong as are many theologians. Then ask God for understanding, but keep in mind the topic of demonology is dangerous. You are pondering walking into a dark forest with no understanding of what lives there. I don't claim to know much, but I know enough not to fuck with this topic. If you do want to get into it, hats off to you, but come at it from a perspective of humble prayer and respect for Christ. These things are not ideas like you described in OP, they are bordering on spiritual parasites as described very well through the work done by Jerry Marzinsky (look him up). Again, not to be fucked with if you are going to start questioning Christ.
>>533415032No, you should be killed. And not by yourself because you'll fuck it up. He's completely right and you're evil and insane and should be killed as soon as possible.
>>533415023if that is what I deserver and there is not enough mercy for me, then so be it. God is always right. You are not one to judge.
>>533414772I just wonder why God made them. That is what I truly find perplexing.If the world is logical and balanced, there must be a state of "oneness" where all opposites perfectly cancel out. But that would be a simple world, right? Not much happens without tension or turbulence. So the oneness had to be split into all concepts.That means good and evil should be equal at all points, but it also means they exist in different ratios across the world, if they follow the laws that seem to govern it. The average evil of our species falls on this spectrum and where we lie is based on our ability to align with order and truth.If we could understand demonic phenomena better we could also fight it more effectively and lower its influence, we don't have the power to remove them but we can get better at fighting them.>>533415032Break some of the spikes off.>>533415166If you read the discussion I do actually see them as intelligent, conscious parasites. Please read past the OP if you want to call me retarded, I know I am but it should be a deserved title, lol.
>>533415388>If you read the discussion I do actually see them as intelligent, conscious parasites. Please read past the OP if you want to call me retarded, I know I am but it should be a deserved title, lol.very well, look up Jerry Marzinsky. You might find his work interesting. Careful.
>>533399726FUCK JANNY SCUM
>>533399726> but they're basically just old names for specific mind viruses that evolved alongside language and cognitionWell fucking duh.A demon is a collection of memes that someone believes in. Specifically, a collection of memes which causes harm to the possessed, to society, or to individuals.Trannies are an example yes, feminists are another one.
>>533415354This is why you are damned. You think you can just earn forgiveness, but you won't even ask for it from everyone else. You don't actually feel bad about anything you've done nor have you tried to fix it. Idiot. Fool. Retard. God won't forgive you because you don't believe in anything except getting out of all the shit you did. You're like a retarded nigger begging the cops to let you out of prison because you were trying to get your life together or whatever bullshit you tell yourself. You're a monster and you don't even feel bad about it. You just hope God is gonna bail you out for free. You are a demon.
>>533415023>It's not demons. It's people. They chose to be evil. Demons are an excuse made up by evil peopleYou are wrong. Literal evil exists. It can take over people and control them.It requires some form of self-destruction or sin to weaken the resistance against the corruption, but the evil that infects them is not their free will anymore. It dominates and subjugates their will. Often people refer to that as demons or bad spirits, but the term does not matter. The fact is that it is a manifestation of ontological evil.
>>533415597a paragraph of blasphemy by a retard.>but you won't even ask for it from everyone else.I ask forgiveness during confession and certainly not of some blasphemous faggot here. neck yourself Judas. Im done with you
>>533415388>I just wonder why God made them."The Fall" happens when man eats of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.Think about that for a second.Prior to eating from the tree, man did not understand the difference between good and bad from his own perspective. Only god did.After eating from the tree, man could distinguish the difference between good and bad from his own perspective. This is free will.The inevitable consequence of free will is making decisions. Dealing with the good, and the bad.
>>533415539No but it's more complex than that. These memes can hijack the sentience of a person even if they don't actually believe in them. They can truly overcome will and take executive control. And since they can align a large group of people to themselves they become very intelligent and highly resilient. And this should be worrying when you consider how our reality is basically a hallucination shared by condensed energy that has sentience, and we know from quantum experiments that the world is fine with retro-causality, which isn't really surprising since photonic energy doesn't experience linear time, only a single moment.>>533415829Yes, there is a deep truth to this. And humans are also very mystical, the fusing of our chromosome 2 for example and other things that set us apart.I think God placed all this evidence in our world for a reason, Jesus often lamented book smart people so we should probably look beyond them and try to understand the basic reality He was giving to us, but that's what Christianity is about so I'll leave that to the monks who understand the nuances after a life of study.But again, it starts becoming uncomfortably recursive, right? Because God knows us, everything about us, the fall was predictable from the moment he conceptualized Eve.Yet he gave us free will and let us disconnect so we could go through all this.And now we're fighting the extinction of the light of humanity, it can be hard at times to not interpret evil as the default state of this world and it really punches you into the dirt. Just look at how the animals live, it's a constant reminder of what would happen if we fall too far.
>>533415388>I just wonder why God made them. That is what I truly find perplexing.I simply accept most God related things as unknowable, but in this case I hope our reality is part of some well-meaning game developer God, who simply wants us to have some interesting times, with some real challenges for drama.I just hope that it's a good game-dev that wants us to succeed instead of a sadistic one.Is it cope? Sure.But at least to me it feels right, and the idea that life is a challenging, but enjoyable game makes it much easier to not succumb to existential dread.
>>533416415It's hard to live with the normies, they don't care about evil and their concept of it is mostly inverted through brainwashing. It's frightening and sometimes makes me wonder if I'm the one who's crazy, but then I talk to them. It was a joy to read the new testament after having spent years deducing moral logic, like seeing the rest of a patchy image. But it also gave a much more complete perspective on how insanely evil the current paradigm is, it's disorder at the deepest level. Senseless destruction of innocence and beauty. This is why I think we have to take these forces incredibly seriously, especially with respect to groups like the Jews who seem to express and amplify these aspects very regularly. They're imbued with parasitism to a degree that is hard to understand.
>>533416895By merely observing the world one can easily conclude evil is the dominant and most succesful force in it.But that is because disorder is the default state when humans stop pushing back against it and when men of great will aren't allowed to align their populations, and they themselves aligning with God and truth, so the system is internally coherent, well at least as good as we are capable off.Mass rape of children through sadistic importing of violent retards must be maximum disorder, even a nuclear bomb is less horrible and that thing creates an honest to God hell on earth in the blast zone.
Also, another effect I've been pondering. It seems as if basic materials can communicate and learn.There are many anecdotes from chemistry of substances that after they're first synthesized refuse to crystalize, then at some point a crystallization will occur and this will rapidly spread to all other reactions and then lock in, sometimes it happens multiple times, but you end up with a single form across all reactions.Animals do this too. If a troop of chimps learn a new skill there is a large chance of nearby, but isolated populations learning the same skill.This is much more perplexing than it is usually given credit for.We've even shown molecular learning under controlled experiments now.Is the world learning from us while we learn from the world?
