nothing to see here.move along.
What an incredible scientific finding! Lobsters feel pain? Who could have guessed? How many millions of dollars did "Ivy league" schools need to figure that out?
How can you ban boiling ?
I have a 6 month old boy and I think its made me done with /pol/. I dont want to read about babies being aborted trying to pull away or see pictures of refugee tolders washing up on beaches.I wont say get some empathy. I will say find a girl and settle down.
>>533404144Nice! When are they going to ban kosher and halal practices next? :DDD
>>533404144Kikes love abortions, yet can't eat shellfish (so they have to ruin it for the goyim they are jelous of) .Not that hard to understand.
>>533404144but they would never ever call for a ban on circumcision
>>533404460Did you try growing a pair?
>>533404144The vast majority of abortions are performed during the first trimester, not on fully formed babies. Even so, fuck them kids.
>>533404626I dont only own a pair. Iv used them.
>>533404144>>533404316This is pure anthropomorphizing of the lobster. A lobster only has 100,000 or so neurons. A human has around 100 billion, or a million times more. The human experience of suffering is produced by this giant brain. The lobster has no such thing, the pain in its brain is meaningless by comparison to ours. It doesn't suffer.
>>533404144Roe v. Wade has been overturned so conservative white states mostly swiftly banned that shitleftards can kill their own children as much as they want, shit genetics anyway and they're often mutts
Abortion is here to stay. Life and death is never a pretty sight. Facts of life are sometimes not pretty.
>>533404460You brought that child into meat grinder hell world, he's going to experience horrors you can barely imagine.
>>533404144Pain? So what? Those cows and pigs feel pain too, and I literally don't care because that's already the humane way of slaughtering them.
>>533404707Israel is what happens when very Al Pachino movie becomes real life.
>>533404460Babies screaming and pulling away from forceps is an obvious lie, presumably coming from fundamentalist retards
>>533404144>No not the heckin' Brown babies! We need more of those!Stay in /ptg/, faggot.>>533405348Only kosher/halal slaughter causes these animals to feel pain like how you described. Senseless animal cruelty (which includes live boiling of lobsters) is a subhuman trait and was rightfully made illegal by Hitler with the Reichstierschutzgesetz.
>>533404707then why do they scream?
>>533404460Good lad, the sooner you get away from this cess pit the happier you'll be
>>533405492Agreed. Babies cannot feel pain. Sick of sky daddy retards pretending babies are anything but parasites just because their desert fairy tale says they are not
>>533404144Leave the sea roaches alone
>>533405281>just go extinct and have no children because Le Jewish hell worldFuck off demoralization shill
>>533404144there are actually not videos of that
>>533404144>ScientistsLiterally who? Why should I care what they say?
>>533404144What if I'm against boiling lobsters alive and against abortion though?
>>533404707Don't be a retard. You don't need to be smart to experience pain, one of the most primal emotions in the entire animal kingdom. Studies have shown that even octopuses, which have completely different brains, feel pain.
>>533404144Wasn't the logic behind boiling them that boiling water kills them in seconds while beheading the makes them feel the pain for a long time?Grok can you confirm?
>>533405545ruined orgasm
>>533404460>my own comfort has improved so I will now reject uncomfortable realities and the inconvenient truthSuch is the way of the ignoble, hollow man.May you wither away.
Isn't pain obviously one of the lowest order primal stimuli for any organism to survive? Even a bacteria has to know what to avoid in order to continue existing. Pain overrides everything else. It's as fundamental and overwhelming as the urge to reproduce. Who would ever think it's a "higher order" function? I guess the same people who think that poor people should go without medical care, since pain is simply a matter of "perception." This entire misconception stemmed from how convenient it was to frame human suffering as temporary and subjective. Also convenient for factory farming and ecological destruction. "The animals don't even know any better!"
>>533404460as another newish dad. this kind of stuff hits way way different once you got one. but dont shy away from the reality of this disgusting world. use that information and keep it in mind theres people out there and want to do it to all white babies. factual information causing a knee jerk reaction usually possesses an important message behind it. use it.
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>>533407605You're half jew
>>533404460closing your eyes to reality does not protect you from its consequences it only causes you to be blind sided when it smashes into your head
>>533408005I also think the false theory of "the survival of the fittest" was a convenient excuse for the suffering and exploitation caused by classical liberalism. "Of course we have to rape the Earth and poison the rivers and kill the natives - we're simply the fittest organism!" Meanwhile predator populations fell off of a cliff, microplastic infect the food chain, and some of the most numerous and successful organisms eat dead bodies and poop. Darwin's father was on obese man who inherited his fortune and furthered it by investing in real estate. Was he the example of genetic fitness? As defined by someone who wanted to justify his position on this planet as an exploiter of men - yes!Whenever man is removed from an environment (after he destroys his precious economy through exploitation, kills himself with guns and bombs, poisons himself with factories, blights himself with genetically modified viruses) equilibrium returns. And it doesn't look like lions dominating with impunity due to their raw strength. It looks like worms tunneling through soil.
>>533407605You're a healthy minded person like most.Kill lobsters fast is the only way.
>HOW can you have compassion and empathy if you boil lobsters alive and theoretically if they had a mind they might suffer for 0.5 seconds?Because I do not have compassion for lobsters specifically. Yes, it is that easy.
>>533404144>Oy vey remember the screaming baby forceps videoJust like the supposed decapitated babies from October 7th that no one has ever actually seen?
>>533404144>studyAre people really that retarded that they need a fucking study for this? Don't they know when Atheists are tricking them into harming animals and nature?
>>533408276How does being against animal torture make me a jew, you fucking frog.
>>533408940>Killing innocent animals is okay because they don't feel pain despite the evidence proving otherwise, but we need more BIPOC babies because Yeshua tells me so o algoLet me guess, you're also for kosher slaughter?
>>533408005Even plants can be said to feel a sort of "pain". The real question is whether crustaceans (or any living thing) can experience suffering. The evidence points to yes for pretty much everything above insects.
>>533404707Also the fact that they did instantly when their brainstem makes contact with the boiling water
>>533409066The person who made the image is a mad pro-life Spic who cherry-picked some irrelevant "study" to create a shocking contrast, or at least that's what I gather from it.
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>>533404460>I'm literally shacking rn because some people cracked some jokes on the hekkin internetquit being such a crybaby, you faggot
Why would you boil lobster alive? Just kill it before putting it in the pot. The cortisol and other stress hormones will ruin the taste.
>>533404460Most people get massively more right wing when they get families simply because they now have actual stakes in society which is why your post is pretty obvious lie.
"lobsters can feel pain"Meanwhile they have a fucking full body ganglion instead of a brain like ours and as soon as they hit the boiling water all of their pain sensory is instantly destroyed.
>>533404144Okay if there's videos like that post one (1) of a baby screaming as it is aborted.
>>533404144the lobsters are aborting human embryos? never heard of that. but maybe posobitches and other VERY smart people know more
>>533404316>Humans are totally animals, humans aren't special at all. Doggos and Cots are so much cuter and more valuable to the world than humans, whoever hurts a cute pupper deserves to die!>KILL FETUSES! Fetuses aren't even humans, they are closer to animals than humans, they are just useless clumps of cells that don't matter!The logical, rational reddit atheist, moral paragon.
>>533410851Is that true with seafood? Or any animal for that matter? All animals were scared at death up until modern farming.
>>533410880Cut the possibly non-bot some slack, most people tend to swing hard the opposite direction when their life changes, then return to a more reasonable position
>>533404707thats a very jewish thing to say
>>533404707>experience happens entirely in the brainngmi
>>533404460You are a spiritually castrated man.
>>533404707Still, humane killing as always been a hallmark of civilization. Let's kill the lobster first by knocking it out and then boil it. It's not a big deal.
>>533404460Sticking your face in to the hate machine makes you a stronger parent.Trust me. Hate works.
>>533404460You're a faggot.I have a son and another one on the way.That kind of shit just make me feel even more contempt for those who denied themselves that kind of happiness.
All the pro abortion country flags itt were once white nations and have completely turned brown. Sad thing to see really.
>>533404460>I have a child and therefore I will be pissy at /pol/ for calling out abortion as evilDo you not love your child? I'd have thought having a kid would make you more opposed to abortion.
>>533404144Does boiling the lobster alive vs already dead change the meat or flavour in anyway?
>>533404144The idea that they could not feel pain is utterly retarded. Pretty much all animals feel pain. Whether they have pain receptors is utterly irrelevant, what matters is if they have sufficient mental faculties to be able to meaningfully suffer.
>>533404460>bad thing >me no want kid to see bad thing>you badgrow up
>>533404144While we are at it, we should ban circumcision too because newborns can feel pain.
>>533404460Shut the fuck up you stupid catholic piece of shit
>>533407727A lobster has such minimal mental faculties that even if it can experience pain it is unlikely to be able to suffer in any meaningful way. If you want to compare humans to lobsters, you would probably have to drug the human to ego death level to get them on the same level as a lobster, and its typically the case that people who are drugged to the point of having no functioning mind anymore can't really suffer either.
>>533404460I can watch rekt videos, Indians getting run over by trains, transgender surgeries, and aborted fetuses dying without wincing.
Scientist are meant to do science. Not make demands. Our western science community is such a fucking mess.I don't go to a UFOologist to tell me i have ass cancer
>>533415751What does suffering mean? In order for the mechanism to function at all, pain has to be an overwhelming negative sensation. Pain receptors ping the brain, brain says OW HURT, body reacts. All of this happens autonomously and involuntarily. What can suffering mean in the context of being boiled alive? Reflecting on the experience later? If I boiled you alive, you wouldn't have a future in which to reflect on said pain and thus "suffer." Obviously, it would be morally reprehensible for me to boil you alive for any reason, because of the pain you would experience before you died. And solely because of that. You would feel the pain of being boiled alive the same as the lobster.I just don't understand this idea that we experiencing "higher order" pain (I guess that's how you define suffering?) when pain itself is a primal and fundamental negative sensation. If anything will make a man return to his monkey state, it's pain. No time to cognize and conceptualize. No time to experience the self. Only AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I burned my hand on a pan last month, and I certainly didn't think "Golly gee, this sure hurts! Are those my pain receptors firing off?" I said "OH FUCK!" and jump backwards.
Animals being prepared for consumption should always be killed swiftly and painlessly, for humane reasons and food quality reasons. If you stress and torture an animal before eating it, it will taste worse. There is literally no reason to torture them unless you are an evil sadist getting some sort of sexual gratification from inflicting suffering and pain.
>>533411614>>KILL FETUSES! Fetuses aren't even humans, they are closer to animals than humans, they are just useless clumps of cells that don't matter!Even if they are, why shouldn't we abort them? First off, most abortions are Black and Brown. Second, what does the child, or any other party involved, gain from its birth? The kid will be raised by an immature and incompetent single mother and the public will have to pay for social services such as food stamps/EBT.
>>533404417U got a loicense for dat pot?
>>533404144>turning point usa someone should show him a video of him getting circumcised
>>533404144What kind of snuff websites does he browse? He must be a connoisseur.
>>533404460Your boy will think you're a faggot and come here to post about it
>>533404417>>533416791Plus water loicence, fuel rationing
>>533404460I'd feel touched by this post if you had expressed sympathy for the lobster but fuck you and fuck your kid growing up in ww3 and AI doom
>>533404460>settle down.You can find empathy without "settling downfor some chick so she can finally fatten without worry. Never give them guarantees that they "have you", always keep them on their toes.
>>533404460Holy based
>>533404144Wonder how the guy feels about circumcision
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