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>>533406410
All radical ideologies fail.
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>>533406410
Tragedy of the Commons, ultimately.
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>>533406410
Take away the individualist focus, niggers, jeets, kikes, other shitskins and kikes again, and it works okay.
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>>533406537
What about Russians?
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>>533406410
China/Soros still mad Argentina hasn't fallen to communism along with the rest of South America
>>533406493
yep look at communism - every single commie government fails by collapsing completely or embracing capitalism and pretending its not betraying their marxist god
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>>533406537
Is all they are...

Individualistic people of different races
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Ideologies are like an OS, there are better ones and worse ones, but someone with good intentions and with the right morals could achieve something good even with a shitty OS.

If you are a crooked comic-tier villain it doesn't matter if the ideology you claim to follow is good or bad.

This stuff is not really hard to figure out. In the paradigm we live in, it doesn't matter which ideology you vote for, the end result will suck because the ones behind it are always the same ones.
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>>533406597
Russians in another Libertarian society? Could work. Libertarianism in Russia? You'll probably fuck it up somehow.
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>>533406410
They always bend the knee to the first authoritarian that looks at them funny. Same problem as anarchists.
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>>533406597
russians are too low iq to do anything except be slaves to oligarchs.
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>>533406410
Reality sets in
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>>533406628
This
The best ideology is the one with the least opportunity for corruption, regardless of all other factors, since the overwhelming cause of disaster is a comedically evil person or group taking power in it. Good people will use the levers afforded to them for good, bad people will use the levers afforded to them for evil. That's simple truth, there's no way to prevent either of these outcomes.

Hypothetically speaking, a benevolent, all powerful tyrant would be the best form of it, but that's not possible, and if it were, the person who inevitably murdered, cheated, and lied their way into the position would not be what was desired.
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>>533406410

Libertarianism isn’t a political system. It can’t create a society. Let’s take Islam or Catholicism as an example. Although you may dislike both, those ideologies were able to create systems that lasted centuries. Some things are bad in a catholic society but it’s still efficient enough to build some community and responsibilities and trust between men. Feminism and libertarianism are grounded on ‘’I should be able to do that’’ without any moral compass. But through history, most of the laws, customs and traditions are crafted to meet some religious needs.
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>>533406493
are you the "Zionist entity" Israel flag?
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>>533406410
Rumor has it he fucked his sister.
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>>533407030
>Hypothetically speaking, a benevolent, all powerful tyrant would be the best form of it, but that's not possible

Deng Xiaoping and Lee Kuan Yew disagree with you, among others
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BECAUSE THE AVERAGE ARGENTINIAN IS SPIRITUALLY A NIGGER.

YOU ARE ALL WRONG AND DON'T GET IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIVE HERE
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>>533406410
>loaded question
>vs anyone vs socialism or leftism
>1pbtid

sldie thread
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>>533406410
Shitalians (and jews) ruin everything.
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>>533406410
>Libertarianism always fail
ideology always falls to reality
even if it takes a while
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>>533406410
There is a list of reasons.

>lack of urgency (unlike leftists, who cry that they are being murdered if you don't do exactly what they want, or conservatives, who are religious lunatics trying to bring forth the apocalypse)
>lack of a moral spine (they do not make enemies, libertarianism itself is conservative for spineless conservatives)
>libertarians are too focused on rugpulling each other (bitcoin, emigration schemes, and all sort of nonsense is pushed by libertarians)
>wrong prerrogatives (libertarianism is just a repetition of Enlightenment nonsense. Laissez Faire economics is older than proposed by any semite from some backwards hole in Europe calling themselves austrian, and libertarianism add barely anything to it, and the most important austrian (FA Hayek) called himself a neo-liberal, deriving his work from classicals like Schumpeter, instead of rejects like Mises
>it is morally spineless (refuse to oppose circumcision or
>libertarians defend freedom when freedom is safe (easiest way to break one is asking 'what about circumcision', 'what about two billion jeets wanting to move to your country', 'what about OnlyFans')
>libertarianism itself has no political appeal among the powerful, since it theoretically (and theoretically only, since they advocate for hordes of reserve labour force to move in and destroy nations for Israel) undermines taxation and money printing, and it lives off impressionable teenagers and your uncle who dislikes the IRS but takes a government pension
>repeats Enlightenment prerrogative that all humans are the same. 'cus Microsoft needs their indians

Heaven exists, it is called Japan, and it did not need to let in two billion jeets for that. Give people freedom, and the poor are the prostitute of the rich. Worship the system while poor, and you worship power of mediocre men over you.

People who have it in them to be rich will never be poor. Demographics matter more than economic policy.
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>>533406410
jewish baked idealogy
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Make Gotham great again
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>>533407924
Ghoulish kikes
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>>533406410
>Why does Libertarianism always fail?
because it is low iq, and the rich use it as a mind virus to get retards to support them.
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>>533406410
Dude wasn't a true libertarian he was a fucking Jew.

Look it up he wants to let 300000 isrealis settle there for free.
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>>533407924
Skinsuits
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>>533406410
richest man in the world pretending to be libertarian is hilarious
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>>533406410
You're acting as if Libertarianism in particular fucked over Argentina, when they've had a shit economy for decades under both left wing and right wing governments
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>>533406410
Because someone always puts chalk in the baby formula. Gypsy culture is the purest form of libertarianism on the planet. Watch some Hobbes videos if you seriously want to learn about it.
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>>533407924
It's comical
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>>533408100
liberterian was founded by jews
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>>533406410
individualism is not a serious ideology
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>>533406410
this fat, manlet jew is a disgrace.
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>>533408299
>the commie shrieked, demanding his share like the jew rat he is
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>>533408299
>>533408542

And again kikes and low IQ individuals fight over which ideology is the problem
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>>533408679
Kys jew
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>>533406493

All toothless strategies fail. "Ideology" is a luxury project. :)
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>>533408279
Demonic
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>>533406410
>Why does Libertarianism always fail?
It's not a serious ideology.
Just take a few seconds and take it to it's logical conclusion.
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because people are greedy and have no interest in losing their ability to stay on top. meaning they have no issues lying, cheating, and stealing to get ahead, stay ahead, and remain ahead.
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>>533406410
Is this thread just to secretly paint Jews as evil demons somehow again?

Argentina is doing much better with Milei:
>5% GDP growth
>Got a currency bailout, now inflation down to under 40% from 200% and has reached single digits some months
>The government has cut spending heavily and moved toward fiscal surplus, something Argentina rarely achieved before.
>Even with austerity severe he still has a 46% approval rating

Its not exactly an economic miracle but he did well IMO
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>>533410072
That guy sold all the gold, and is selling the forests too. He passed a law that allows kikes to burn forests and purchase them cheaply.

Now fuck off.
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>>533406410
its literally "marxism: for elistist know-it-alls"
same a identical
>"BUT REALLLLLLLLL lolbertism has never been tried!"
every 'cope'... the same
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>>533406410
Because its only heralded by unpractical idealists (or less charitably, retards) and hostile foreign governments who employ it as a vector of subversion.
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>>533407924
>>533409105
Jesus fucking christ
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>>533406410
If your ideology has a jew as its figurehead, then it is fundamentally hebrew. For at least the time being.
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>>533406410
How about giving it a fair chance instead of trying every failed ideology over and over again? That's called insanity.

USA, Switzerland and the better european countries are largely libertarian. The libertarian aspects is what at least can be attributed to their success.
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>>533411035
>USA, Switzerland and the better european countries are largely libertarian. The libertarian aspects is what at least can be attributed to their success.
I think this is the biggest problem with discussions on politics.
People advocate for ideologies that they don;t understand, only because they feel a certain way against them.
If school was actually there to educate you rather than indoctrinate you, they would have several years of classes on politics so that people at least knew what the fuck they were talking about.
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>>533406623
soros is a harcore capitalist because capitalism is a trojan horse for judaism
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>>533410072
>Is this thread just to secretly paint Jews as evil demons somehow again?
No need, reality does a fine enough job of that.
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>>533406410
Because everyone has been brainwashed by globalism mindset. Every idealogy is not only compared to but is seen through the lens of globalism. As such, when it comes to applying Libertarianism it defacto becomes unrestrained globalism.
You want a Free market? Sure great Idea, but wait you cant have a free market in your country without extending that through the globalist mindset and letting foreigners have free reign in your markets! Now if you werent completely brainwashed by globalism you would understand that an ideology or political movement within a country is meant to be applied to that countries citizens and not extended to foreigners at random. Letting your citizens engage in free market economics can be good, but you still need strong regulations against foreigners, otherwise the market becomes a serious national security hazard if ot breaking your markets entirely.
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>>533406410
>Why does Libertarianism always fail?

Because one time a fat guy ran up on stage naked or something?
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>>533411228
Those countries are some of the freest with the most unregulated markets, individual liberties and privacy/speech protections. There are more factors to it than that but freedom is a strong component and not in a lolbertarian way. You're arguing against that?
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>>533407203
/pol/tards are mentally ill irony poisoned troglodytes what did you expect?
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>>533406493
Ironic
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>>533406410
Libertarians are retards. Always were.
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>>533406493
Zionism will fail
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>>533406410
Jews. When someone asks something here the answer is jews.
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>>533406410
no institutional defense mechanism against monopolies and exploitation that causes economic collapse.

as a working person or small business, libertarianims would be great!

at the levels of the elite and large corporations, it becomes a cart blanche to just take everything that isn't bolted down.
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>>533415653
and winner take all systems usualy lead to war, famine and mass death.



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