Somebody redpill me on the theory that poles descend from Vandals.I've heard the Sarmatian/Scythian/Iranian origin myths, but I saw a Polish schizo proclaiming their proud Vandal ancestry/origin.Obviously, that's nonsense, just like all the other attempts to be literally anything other than Poles, but it's nonsense I haven't heard before. What's the theory there? That poles are Secretly Germanic? That Vandals were proto-slavs? Ancient aliens?Harken, Polak schizoids, and enlighten this neurotypical man.
>>533413315The “Poles = Vandals” thing is not really a mainstream ethnic theory in the modern sense. It is mostly a medieval/early-modern historiographical tradition: old chroniclers sometimes called Poles “Vandals,” or linked them to the name Wanda / Vandalus / Vistula, as part of a prestige genealogy. In other words, it belongs in the same family as Sarmatian origin stories: learned myth, symbolic ancestry, and name-play, not solid ethnography. The modern scholarly view is much less exciting. Poles are a West Slavic people, and the ethnonym “Poles” appears in medieval sources for the Slavic population that formed the early Polish state. Meanwhile, the Vandals are treated by mainstream scholarship as an East Germanic people. Britannica identifies them straightforwardly as a Germanic people, famous for their 5th-century migrations through Gaul, Spain, and into North Africa. So where did the confusion come from? Mostly from two old habits: first, ancient and medieval writers often used ethnonyms loosely and anachronistically; second, there was a long-standing tangle between names like Veneti / Wends / Vandals, which later readers tried to retrofit onto Slavs, Poles, or whoever happened to live in roughly the same region. A recent study of Polish medieval historiography notes that in Kadłubek’s tradition “Vandals” could function almost as a literary label for “Poles-as-Slavs,” not as a precise statement that medieval Poles believed themselves ethnically identical to the historical Vandal tribe.There is also a specifically Polish legendary angle: the story of Princess Wanda. In Kadłubek’s version, the Vistula is tied to “Vandalus,” and her people are called Vandals. That is a mythic-etymological move, not a population-genetics argument.
>>533413315It's pretty stupid and doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.The Vandals were proto-Slavic maybe, but appeared and migrated West earlier than what we have come to know as Slavs.
>>533413894I didn't come here for chatgpt nigger
>>533413315>theoryit's all that and only thatno one knows anything for sure, science is shitgood only for literary butter and margarine commercial wars
>>533414042>It's pretty stupid and doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.None of them do, but usually the story surrounding their creation is at least interesting, like the Polish nobles pretending to be middle easterners.>The Vandals were proto-Slavic maybe, but appeared and migrated West earlier than what we have come to know as Slavs.The names we have of them are clearly Germanic in nature, so that isn't very likely due to the great difference there.
baltic bronze age + thracian bronze age (with levantine blood on it) + scythians + a little avar and germanic/ Celtic genes. some illyrian can be too = poolack
STOP!!!!
>>533414596I hated that pokemon as a child.
>>533414984As a child this German woman gave me a boner.
>>533415380Reasonable.
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>>533413315The modern poles are rape babies from Russia, Germany and Ukraine.
>>533414248>None of them do, but usually the story surrounding their creation is at least interesting, like the Polish nobles pretending to be middle easterners.This made some sense. R1a split and Slavs descend from the European group. So I guess the Sarmatians were their ancestors' brothers or something. Also they did hang around Eastern Europe in the age of Rome so a handful may have stayed around.
>>533415786>tfw you will never be a schizophrenic warlord in central Asia:(
wends exist
>>533413315The one "Vandal" text is some 15th century shit.
>>533417865So?
>>533417923Your thread got answered by the first post, I am mentioning the commonly occuring image about "Vandal Slavic language" which is literally some 15th century fantasy.
>>533418074I'm not here for chatgpt surface lore, anon.
>>533418160Maybe it's some village assembled Pole-GPT, that's not the way Chat-GPT formats at all.
>>533418214I assume he asked in Polish and then got a translation + some editing or personalized preprompts.I've got the latter to make the AI less verboten in most prompts.
>>533418343Gotta hand it to the Poles, while they don't invent or write anything themselves, they're really good at using other people's (or robots) land, words and resources.
