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What happened to the atheist movement? 15 years ago, the internet was full of atheists who wanted to debate Christians.
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Both are insane
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they all took DMT
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>>533416460
They got what they wanted, which was a society that was not impacted by holiness, and found that things have only gotten worse.
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>>533416460
It died when Islamists co-opted left-wing liberalism and Dawkins got cancelled for saying something mean about Islam.
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>>533416460
Dawkins killed it by supporting Christianity.
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>>533416460
We make fun of Christcucks every day, what are you talking about Christcuck spam bot?
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Aron Ra is still a fat fuck.
Matt Dillahunty is now dating a tranny so hes afraid to debate now because people call him out for being against biology
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>>533416460
It got co-opted by atheism+ and shifted the focus from atheism to tangentially related activism.
kind of like how the left tried gamer+ or PC gamer (politically correct gamer, term already taken by personal computer) in early GamerGate.
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It took only a single bannana.
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They grew up. I think Reddit having atheism as a default sub made it popular and like all things that are popular at a certain point it becomes uncool. Debating a religion is retarded because the entire premise is faith in something that can’t be proven. Those fucking homos never went after jews or Muslims either, just Christians.
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>>533416460
Everyone realized that atheists but the exact same people that would have been militant evangelicals 20 years ago. Those people desperately need something to believe in and they just chose atheism instead of God. Didn't you ever find it strange that atheists were so preachy?
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>>533416460
Was it really Islam that defeated it or was it religious race communism that stabbed it in the back?
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>>533416460
they got destroyed by the transcendental argument. now the best atheist is that twink Alex who hides from debates
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>>533416460
Topics changed to feminism and now migration. Most people aren't religious anyway, so it's not really a relevant issue, and prudish puritans turned out to be present everywhere and want to control you regardless of whether they believe in God.
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atheism is jewish
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>>533416739
>Those fucking homos never went after jews or Muslims either,

Apostasy in Islam Richard Dawkins extracts some truth from a Muslim leader
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=k2xZJuNuKSs
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>>533416810
>transcendental argument
There is some truth to this. They thought they were products of the enlightenment but instead they became victims of existential crisis.
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>>533416891
>atheism is jewish
Talmudic inversion. I expect nothing less from someone who worships a jew as God.
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>>533416460
Atheists demonstrated a clear unwillingness to engage with anything but the most scientifically disprovable versions of Christianity.
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>>533416460
Atheists won. Basically nobody believes in God anymore, so there's no reason to talk about it or debate against it. All these Christcucks you see online posting "Chist is King" are just larpers. They never go to church, or read the Bible, or practice what Jesus taught. They just heard someone say that society needs religion to keep people in line, looked at a society that they (rightfully) don't like, and started Christlarping.
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>>533416460
People grew up and moved on
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>>533416739
>Those fucking homos never went after jews or Muslims either, just Christians.
Published 2004, opens with a story about a suicide bomber, is largely about the risks of radical Islam. Hint; the suicide bomber isn't Christian.
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>>533416972
Kant said judaism should be euthanized, he also said christianity has nothing to do with jews.
i trust the aryan philosopher more than jeet memeflag
we all know you re indian
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>>533417060
Also this
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>>533416460
It won
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>>533417060
>They just heard someone say that society needs religion to keep people in line
Those people just weren't around for 2000. Now they see when they bring Christians to power, they start a war for Israel.
It doesn't matter how many "jews are the synagogue of Satan" quotes get brought up on /pol/, or how many christians on here are personally anti-Zionist.
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>>533416972
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>>533416460
they started putting bananas in their ass, fucking trannies, being the faggots they all are.
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>>533417060
This aspect is underrated. /pol/ discusses religion like someone at the grocery store trying to decide which brand of peanut butter he wants. There's nothing sincere at the bottom of any of it, it's just brand loyalty with Bronze/Iron Age trappings.
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>>533416460
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
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>>533416460
There's no point talking to Christians until they explain why God invented Hinduism before he made the bible.

They're so scared that God is reading their mind they refuse to think. Thousands of years of christian 'scholarship' studying every little detail of the books but no answer as to why other religions happened first. Its a joke, they're not taking it seriously so neither will I.
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>>533416460
Reddit atheist = thinks it is a replacement for a personality/they want to be apart of a group
Real atheist = i don't believe in any god and is racist + hates jews
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>>533417278
This. They were the atheists all along. If they were afraid of God they would behave differently
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>>533416460
I became a panentheist and rejected materialist reductionism and sophistry that is "but I'm ignorant, so I have no position on this". For a little while I was a deist too before become a pantheist before ultimately become a panentheist. Still don't believe in a personal god.
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they had every opportunity in the world to create something new instead of just whinge and tear down. what did they come up with? tranny worship and marvel movie binge watching? lmao wow good job guys.
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>>533416460
Dawkins started the movement
and
Dawkins killed the movement
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>>533416460
Progressives attacked it since it was just about Christians.
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>>533417343
>They're so scared that God is reading their mind they refuse to think.
>christian answers for religions older than christianity
They respond by saying Christianity actually came first.
I encountered one that said Christianity is actually older than Judaism, but I don't recall the mental gymnastics.
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>>533416588
I did this + shrooms + I learned astral projection + mediumship + remote viewing.
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>>533417329
Not even a Jewish or Muslim god?
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>>533416780
The militant evangelicals are still here and currently in the government trying to force gods hand and bring about the book of revelations on behalf of israel
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>>533417533
Nope. Same mental illness just a different flavor.
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>>533416460
internet is much less white than it was 15 years ago
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>>533417098
>Kant said
I don't care what Kant said. You worship a jew. Stop trying to change the subject.

>>533417212
You literally worship a jew. Jews did not create a lack of belief in Jewsus. Jews love if when White people worship a jew. They claim to hate Jewsus because they know it will make you think he's on your side, when he's not.
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>>533417490
Dawkins typically works off the mythological aspect of religion and any antiquated practices asserted by the culture e.g when he attacked Islam regarding the punishment for apostasy.
He doesn't present an alternate moral framework or guidance like Nietzche or Jung does that's independent from Christianity, but it does exist.
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>>533417660
>jam boy going full schizo
lmao
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>>533417597
much racism
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>>533417490
Huge news, Dawkins repeats the same thing he's been saying about himself since the 00's. What's Portuguese for "zoomer?"
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>>533416460
We just got bored wasting time on locked minds.
I read that book on a long flight when it came out years ago. It's pretty good, but Brits are pussy-footing around Islam.
Sam Harris and Christopher Hitches were more spunky.
Sadly CH died of cancer, and Sam was lost to TDS a decade ago.
But non-believers are still out here, largely uninterested in groups, meetings, conferences, or team work.
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>>533417697
>YOU'RE A JEET IF YOU DON'T WORSHIP A JEW
>memeflag
All Christian posts are agitprop posted by spam bots.
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>>533417853
Sure thing rajkumar jeet jamboy hahahaha!
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>>533417895
>worships a brown jew
>calls other people brown
agitprop to make the board unusable
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Richard Dawkins is "culturally Christian" now. That's what happened to the movement and why it was dumb to begin with.
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>>533417937
Hmm. Smells like... Like a cow shit... and jam! Hahahahaha!
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>>533418048
3000 years of shoving religion down a person's throat at sword point will do that
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>>533416460
turns out you can't really debate people that worship some dead kike and believe in retarded jew mythology
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>>533417060
This
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>>533416460
Hitchens died, New Atheism defaulted to Dawkins as a leader, and then it walked into the same room as late second-wave feminism—not even the "what is feminism?" shit, just the equal rights wing. All the acolytes were accustomed to arguing with young-earth creationists who thought Wikipedia was satanic; the intellectual bar was low; they couldn't handle a debate that requires uncomfortable research and case-by-case critical thinking. Dawkins particularly shit the bed on feminism, drawing a lot of gross publicity even before he and Krauss and whoever the fuck else got outed as Epstein-class zionists. The reason this matters is because of how the following regression led American Christianity to evolve, ironically by doublig down on the zionism. Atheism will resurge after Donny goes down and some idiot steps forward to self-immolate as proof that the personality-cult legacy doesn't transfer.
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Take a look and connect the dots..., they want us to discuss their shitty lies.

We had a philosophy with GOD 2300 years ago, but the elites saw their throne in danger, because their control is based in brainwashing and lie to fools, and stoics were killing and burning them alive, and setting a real democracy so they ended invading greece but even in the roman empire stoicism didn't stop advancing between the people, so they came to the brilliant idea... nerf the torah and create a new religion to the goyim, name it christianism because they fused shits from krishna passiveness with their torah, and nerfed it with things like "put the other cheek" "allow your daughter and sons being raped by aliens, and exploited by us and the institutions that we control, we are all creatures of god, he will judge us later, 2 weeks" "be tolerant" "be submissive", and also nerfed our science, and the philosophy, and brainwashed all the globe, because after the romans they became "the state", they were the guardians of books, science and culture for 2000 years, they rewrote, silenced, burned tons of free thinkers...

>The Stoic school remained influential for several centuries, from the late fourth century BCE until late antiquity.[11] Zeno's ideas developed from those of the Cynics (brought to him by Crates of Thebes), whose founding father, Antisthenes, had been a disciple of Socrates. Zeno's most influential successor was Chrysippus, who followed Cleanthes as leader of the school, and was responsible for molding what is now called Stoicism.[12] Stoicism became the foremost popular philosophy among the educated elite in the Hellenistic world and the Roman Empire[13] to the point where, in the words of Gilbert Murray, "nearly all the successors of Alexander [...] professed themselves Stoics".[14] Later Roman Stoics placed greater emphasis on practical ethics and the cultivation of inner moral discipline in everyday life.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism
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>>533416460
Something worse than religion replaced it, ideology
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>>533418072
>Hmm. Smells like... Like a cow shit... and jam! Hahahahaha!
T. worships a smelly sand nigger
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>>533418457
>admits he's a street shitting jamboy
I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT!!! HAHAHAHA!
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>>533418438
>YOU CAN'T HAVE VALUES AND BELIEFS, GOY
Pretty sure religions that tell you to worship a brown jew are infinitely worse than having a set of standards and morals.
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>>533418484
List for me three pieces of music.
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>>533418233
The New Atheists wouldn't have followed that data to its conclusions anyway. Feminism was a shibboleth that couldn't be challenged; if information led you to a conclusion that feminism was wrong, you had to find new information. They could challenge religion, which was already dying, they couldn't challenge feminism.

I think you're right though. Fair or unfair, Christianity is going to get to own Zionism and the current ongoing fuckup in Iran, which is going to give a lot of weight to
>Isn't it time we got over all this superstitious magic Jew book shit and not do this again?
It'll be pretty effective to be able to point at any Christian and shout about them destroying the empire (again).
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>>533418048
Why don't you tell us what you think "culturally Christian" means, so we can all have a good laugh?
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>>533418538
Poo poo in the loo, Jam boys whatcha gonna do, shitting on the streets of delhi.
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>>533417060
Christcucks are literally spam bots. Its incredibly easy to make a Christian bot, all it needs to do is spam bible passages and then switch to gaslighting and agitating when the bot gets interrupted and doesn't know how to respond.
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>>533416612
What a fucking retard
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>>533416460
>debate me bro
nah, it's a waste of time to communicate with cultists
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THE ALIEN ARRIVAL IS CONFIRM FOR TUESDAY MORNING 9:30 AM EST TIME.
QANON INSIDER HERE WITH DEEPSTATE ILLUMINATI SEE YOU ALL IN THE MOTHERSHIPS GOODLUCK SAFE.

PS. Disappearance of UFO expert Gen. Neil McCasland 'confirmed gameover'
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>>533416655
(((We)))
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>>533418658

300
Reality: They started a movement to announce to the whole world that God didn't exist co-opting millennials who had problems with their parents to become the ativists and when confronted with the truth, they completely lost their way, ultimately coming across as cringe-worthy idiots.

70% of that movement converted to Christianity, and the rest pretend it never happened.
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>>533416460
They lost, whether to drugs, suicide, etc.

The survivors became part of the Radical Left.
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>>533418937
>YOU'RE A JEW IF YOU DON'T WORSHIP A JEW
ancient spam bot
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>>533418964
>70% of that movement converted to Christianity
Sounds about right, because roughly 70% of Christians are brown .
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>>533419042
>don't point out kikes are anti-Jesus
Not fooling anyone chaim
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Atheism was the first movement that went woke and then subsequently broke.
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>>533418964
>truth
What truth?
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>>533419268
jews want the goyim to worship a jew
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>>533419353
Sad but true, many such cases.
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>>533416460
Well, I am still there.
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>>533417060
/thread

99% of this board larps as a christian but dont practice what they preach just like most people in the western world, you only pick and choose to be christian when it suits your needs, fakers.
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>>533419427
Imagine worshiping anyone but yourself.
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>>533419577
This, the Left Hand Path is where it's at.
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>>533419427
And if you don't worship a jew, the jew will try to corral you into Marxism, which is secular Christianity.
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>>533419638
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>>533416460
lost interest because hitchens lost to parenti in debate, and then died, and sam harris went full zio. and dawkins hates islam more than christianity because of his christian bias rather than being fair to all religions
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>>533416460
They won the debate and society became more atheistic. Now people are becoming Christians (and to a lesser extent Muslim) to spite the atheistic world order.
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>>533416460
We're just letting religious people destroy themselves and make their lives more miserable while ancient fairytales control their thinking.

Meanwhile us atheists are doing things in the world that actually matter.
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>>533419794
Well, Christianity can be kept at bay. Islam however is a whole different story because its only reason to exist as by its inverter's intend is to conquer.
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>>533419577
why. you and I are fallible and get shit wrong all the time. why worship that. nature is the closet thing thats infallible. with the stability of the laws of physics. but even that is weird to worship. so why worship anyway.
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>>533416460
>What happened to the atheist movement?
banana up your ass, the ideology isn't sustainable long term
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>>533420014
There's a lot to learn and read before understanding the philosophy...
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>>533420009
> Christianity can be kept at bay
> its only reason to exist as by its inverter's intend is to conquer.

pete hegseth and do you mean conquering or just being violent. cause im not a pacifist like jesus. at least big Mo made no apologies for defending with violent. honest of him and less cucked.
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>>533419941
>Meanwhile us atheists are doing things in the world that actually matter.
like take the vaxx
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>>533420014
>nature is the closet thing thats infallible.
Nature (living) corrects itself all the time.
>why worship that.
Because there's nothing that matters more to your entire existence.
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>>533420068
read what philosophy? egoism? stirnerism? stoicism? ho hum navel gazing
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>>533416460
>atheist movement
it was never an atheist movement
all you had to do was ask them to make fun of judaism and see the mask fall off in real time
it was always about being anti-Catholicism
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>>533420226
Yes. Egoism has a bad name however every motivation for action is inherently egoist.
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>>533416460
a guy shoved a banana up his arse and that killed it
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>>533419843
people are becoming Christian again because they don't have a philosophy to fill the void that non-religiosity created.

They never developed the ability to observe complexity, accept reality, or meditate on existence outside of the framework of anciety fairytales. So they went back to what they knew instead of embracing other philosophies like existentialism or buddhism.

We are also seeing the decay of communities, and more kids lacking purpose in life due to their social media addictions, so they are going back to religion for the community and hope of salvation from the internet.
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>>533416460
It turns out that a message of "your life is essentially meaningless" doesn't have curb appeal
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>>533420151
Who?
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>>533420219
>>Because there's nothing that matters more to your entire existence.

what about the existence of our ideas and things we build that we hope outlasts ourselves? those are more immortal than we are. we are seeds that create fruits. why dont the fruits matter more?
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there are no more christians to debate on the internet, maga satanists dont count
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>>533420009
frog fren....,open your eyes islam is the fascism and christianism is the communism...., you got the same rulers ruling over you...
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>>533417660
>You literally worship a jew
the word jew didn't even exist at the time of Yeshua
Jesus was an Essene and was attacked by the Pharisees

modern jews are LARPing as Pharisees
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Atheism doesn't need a movement. As long as there is theism then there will be atheism
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>>533420336
You'd think people would see pending trillions of dollars trying to kill a religion as a red flag.
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>>533416460
They are too bussy (heh) working extra time to pay the reassignement surgery, or maybe Tyrone railling them leaves them too exhausted for debate, I don't know.
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>>533420343
pete hegseth, sean hannity, and all the christian zio cucks who are religious zealots busy helping to bomb the world
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>>533420424
>Jesus was an Essene and was attacked by the Pharisees
Yeah, Two different groups of jews.
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>>533416655
Make sure you don't spend too many nappies Shlomo.
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>>533416460
Like any other movement, the wrong people got into it and ruined it for everyone else.
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>>533420360
You can't enjoy them without yourself.
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>>533420336
You create your own meaning in life.
You don't need imaginary friends, fairytales, and backwards traditions to make purpose in your life.

Also if your "purpose" is worshipping a dead jew in the form of an imaginary friend in hopes you'll go to heaven for kissing your imaginary dead jew's ass, you need better purposes.
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>>533416972
Yeshua was an Essene, not a jew
you don't know anything about Catholicism
it's just so pathetic to watch a jeet who learned shit from youtube videos and twitter lmao
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>>533420547
thats fine. my offspring may enjoy it. or others i love. a beautiful house you build is still beautiful after you die.
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>>533420407
Communism is it's very own religion, so is fascism. Each of them are ideologies to control the masses. With different goals.
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>>533416460
Smartphones let Christians get into the internet in large numbers. It's the same thing as with Indians. Also YouTube's algorithm bullshit largely buried their content.
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>>533420493
What I think is interesting about British Israelism is that while versions of the theory have existed since the Middle Ages, it only exploded into a broad British movement with meeting places and groups in the late 19th century - which is the exact same time that Zionism was taking shape.
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>>533420486
They are not ideologies.
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>>533420619
you are a flagtard though -_-
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>>533416972
>you worship someone who rejected judaism as corrupt and hypocritical and is against predatory financial practices hence you must be jewish
Go join the 40 percent.
>>533417060
You don't get to define what's religion little shit leftoid scum.
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>>533420669
christian zionism isnt a thing?
who are the members of CUFI?

10 million Christians that support Israel
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>>533418647
Yeah they didn't figured it. He's too optimist.
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>>533416460
Unironically I grew mushrooms in high school and saw things that I probably wasn't meant to see. Not a door I plan to knock on again.
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>>533420610
And when you die in peace because you left something behind for your offspring you did it for your own relief and satisfaction which is an egoist motivation.
>>533420679
The flag is just related to my stance as far as the flag options go.
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>>533416460
Deep down everyone is an atheist.
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>>533420727
The figures are not...
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>>533416460
They won and stopped caring.
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>>533420779
>you did it for your own relief and satisfaction which is an egoist motivation.
thats projection. you cant substantiate the claim that this a necessary interpretation to have of one's motivation.
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>>533416460
Anti-religiosity doesn't work well with race communism when most non-whites are religious (often extremely so), so it got toned down.
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>>533420619
the matryoshka go much deeper than that, you didn't dig enough yet, you must understand from where we all came to see where we are now, and that implies much more than both serve to control the masses, because to be precise they serve to lie the masses to control de political power, and the money, and be able to parasite a nation of brainwashed fools
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>>533420875
Yes I can. I can track down every motivation to egoist roots. That is not a bad thing. It is just how it is. Because for every individual there is nothing else than its own existence first and foremost.
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>>533420330
Half of gen z cant buy booze nigwit.
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>>533416612
America is the most christian society ever you blind buffoon.
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>>533421031
Yes I know. All ideologies of this kind do. And that's also where each of them fails again and again. With millions of causalities. More each time.
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>>533421049
but this is not a unique way to track down motivations. there are competing ways to do it. others claim to do things on behalf of tribe, humanity, nation, race, religion, etc.

im just curious though, how would you explain the motivations of aaron bushnell? i think the only option is to claim that he did what he did because he was mentally disturbed because your stance cant explain his actions otherwise.

my stance is something like sometimes people sacrifice themselves for the benefit of others (like the freedom of others. see the sacrifice of WWII veterans for an example) without it being the case that they are mentally ill or something.
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>>533416460
i grew up
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>>533421049
do you differentiate between ego and self?
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>>533421136
"of this kind" well... :) yes but the ideologies don't kill, the group who rule using them are the ones who kill using them as excuses, but thats what you expect from artificial ideologies, you use a fake ideology to convince and then apply violence over your enemies, in this case the free people, under the protection of the law and in the name of the common good, and the social peace, and the children, because if they dont, they end like Ceaușescu, but if we left them time to work we´ll end like north korea..., saying gm great leader my god and gn great leader my god, thanks for the piece of dry bread and glass of water of today, god bless you all :)
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>>533421209
>others claim to do things on behalf of tribe, humanity, nation, race, religion, etc.
Why do they want to belong to that? Because it makes them feel better to belong to something. It makes them feel secure, important, complied. We are social beings and therefore the drive to belong to a group for most of us has a reason and bears an evolutionary benefit. Other species might have chosen different paths but we had success because of that ability. However the fundamental motivation is always egoistic.
>im just curious though, how would you explain the motivations of aaron bushnell?
idk I am not his therapist but maybe he wanted to be remembered as "an hero"? Which is exceptionally egoist. In fact suicide is one of the most drastically destructive egoist things one can do.
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Also Christianity has become so irrelevant in the west (at least outside the US) that it kind of stopped being counter-cultural and edgy to be an atheist (it's almost becoming the opposite). And speaking against Islam or Judaism is politically incorrect and bigoted.
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>>533421623
Depends on the theory where these terms are debated in. In psychology the Ego is the upper layer that the Self produces to reflect itself within its surroundings.
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>>533416460
They won the debate and moved on with their lives.
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>>533416780
That’s because Americans have puritan subhuman genes. Still doesn’t make your dead Jew a god.
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>>533421108
You're the retard.
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>>533420812
Everyone is born an atheist
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>>533421664
>the group who rule using them are the ones who kill using them as excuses
Yes of course, that's the entire reason for the existence of ideologies. And until now, every ideology has somewhere in their history the perversion of being used to kill and oppress.
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>>533417774
Christopher Hitchens was jewish btw, he discovered it later in life. His brother is now an ardent zionist.
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>>533421704
>Why do they want to belong to that? Because it makes them feel better to belong to something.

its not always about feelings. often its about survival. why do we need family? for protection.

> It makes them feel secure, important, complied.

but when you say "feel" you are minimizing the important. as if the feeling is illusionary. no man, teaming up with others is how you stay safe and get things done. do you play team sports? can you win baseball with an egoist mind set? im imagining a player that doesn't understand the strategical advantage of making a sacrificial play.

> We are social beings ... However the fundamental motivation is always egoistic.

you sure he wanted his ego to be remember or his message?

lol
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>>533421958
>often its about survival. why do we need family? for protection.
And that's not an egoistic motivation?
>as if the feeling is illusionary.
It is not lol. It is the only thing that we can be sure is real.
>can you win baseball with an egoist mind set?
Why do you want to win? What's your motivation to win?
>you sure he wanted his ego to be remember or his message?
He wanted to be remembered. That's the point.
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>>533416739
That is the crux of it. Faith by definition cannot be proven or disproven by observation of the natural world. I'd say logical or philosophical proofs for or against are also futile. I'm agnostic obviously.

What people should focus on instead of what, why, or how they believe, but on things worth having faith in, to live a virtuous and principaled life, free of the lies of the prime Jew
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scientific discoveries in protein enzymes catalysts demand (in hyperbole) either :
A) a Creator-God
or
B) 17 Trillion Years of evolution on earth to randomly select for what is, rather than the 3.5 Billion
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Additionally, all the civil atheists realize the benefits of Christendom and that atheism as an ethic does not produce harmony when confronted with infinity browns, illiteracy, and institutional child torture based adrenochrome supply chain management.
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>>533421941
but then you propose be a zombie without brain, without ideas, the ideology its our guardian angel if we use the right ideology, the one who also kills, obviously as we are humans, but kills with justice, to erase the evil to live in the "kingdom of heaven", that casually is the kingdom of hell of liars and pharisees, so humanity since the beginning of time is in the fight of "god vs satan" or "good vs evil" or "knight vs dragon"
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>>533422059
can the egoist enjoy winning if they are celebrating alone? like you said, we are social creatures. but why don't you think that isn't fundamental to our mentality?

> It is the only thing that we can be sure is real.
in response to descartes, we become persons through recognition by others. The "I" that thinks is already a social achievement, not a pre-social foundation. in otherwords, "I" can not exist without its opposite. how can the existence of "I" be believed without the simultaneous belief that the opposite of "I" exists?
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>>533422321
Ideology has a normative claim, a worldview and a truth. That makes it total.
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>>533422413
descartes was a retard, he had no cat or dog in his flat, lol, maybe in his brain he couldn't simulate also a lake to watch his fukn face reflected in a lake, and at the same time put his balls over a stone and with other stone crunch them, i bet he will be pretty close to understand the "myself" idea ... lmao
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>>533422564
everyone has one unless it is posited that having a brain without software running is a preferable case. you can't run Doom with that. doesn't sound like fun.
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>>533422413
>can the egoist enjoy winning if they are celebrating alone?
Who said they are celebrating alone? You are not getting the point. And you will not get it as long as you stick to "ego" as the pejorative term.
Start taking it unbiased and you might understand it. There is no reason to understand it as something inherently bad.
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>>533422747
> And you will not get it as long as you stick to "ego" as the pejorative term.

what term should i use that doesnt trigger you? i will use it. i just wanted to be faithful (no pun intended) when talking to you. sheesh
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>>533422849
It does not trigger me. There is no reason to be triggered by the term "ego", because the principle is fundamental.
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>>533422564
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The atheist fad was a reaction to the fundie Christians trying to insert the genesis story into biology class (among other things), who themselves were part of a ploy by neocon atheist Jews, who were using fundies to create a domestic base of support for their clash of civilizations geopoltical agenda.
Since the neocons fell out of favor, their fundie puppets dissipated, and so too did the radical atheist reaction against them.
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>>533422683
i would take egoists seriously if there was less of a correlation between being foreveralone and being an egoist. its like one's surroundings has an effect on the ideas people end up with

>>533422917
> It does not trigger me.
that makes me (my ego) glad that that's the case
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>>533416460
something with a banana
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>>533416460

they grew out of that childish bullshit, anon.
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>>533423029
nein reeeee-leven and usa holy war against islam was a big trigger. especially for hitchens and sam harris
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>>533420497
wrong
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Atheism is the goyslop of religions.
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>>533423043
You translate "ego" exclusively with selfishness. I am talking about an inherent and fundamental drive that's within everyone of us.
You are talking about the social stance of egoism, I am talking about motivation. I’m saying that everything that motivates us, even social needs like recognition or belonging, is still experienced internally. So even if the self is embedded socially, every motivation still operates through the individual. In that sense, “ego” just means the drive from where motivation happens.
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>>533423171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d4ui9q7eDM
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>>533417278
The enlightenment did that, and enshrined it in your own constitution. The state shall not have any established religion, nor prohibit the exercise of any religion. The separation of religion in state in such an extreme concept, you will find it almost nowhere else in history.
What is religion now three? A hobby. A personal indulgence. A glorified self improvement program. So, going shopping for a religion is actually quite rational.
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>>533423496
Typing in bed lel
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>>533423253
Right
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>>533423270
>veggie whisperer says something retarded
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>>533423388
>I’m saying that everything that motivates us, even social needs like recognition or belonging, is still experienced internally.
its not exclusively internally. when it comes to information flow through the brain, there is also information flow from your brain to other brains forming networks. extracting a brain from this network is harmful because of how we are fundamentally social.
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>>533416612
this
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>>533423171
Well, they declared they needed “a new Pearl Harbor” in their PNAC plan.
The lesser discussed aspect of neocon thought is their domestic agenda. They have weird platonic ideas about being philopsher kings over the common people, and using religion and national stories as a way to prevent the anarchy and nihilism they believe that liberalism will ultimately lead to. Ironically, they were so ham handed in the actual execution of this plan, that they ended up beclowning the whole concept of religion, and creating a generation of atheists and skeptics.
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>>533416612
No society is being made worse by the final death throws of evangelicalism
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>>533416460
Atheists forgot the whole "Good without God" argument and became hedonous assholes that destroyed society. So yeah, we still exist. But the sane ones don't out themselves and find more in common with Christians than "Atheists"
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>>533423688
You’re shifting goalposts now. I’m not denying that humans are socially embedded or influenced by others. I said the opposite above and of course information flows between people.
But motivation still has to be processed and felt by an individual mind to result in an action. Social input doesn’t remove the internal point within the individual where motivation actually occurs.
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>>533416460
Smart phones made it easier for low IQ retards to access the web and social media.
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>>533423893
>But motivation still has to be processed and felt by an individual mind to result in an action. Social input doesn’t remove the internal point within the individual where motivation actually occurs.
your point of view is that the process of motivation before action is (primarially?) contained within the individual. my point of view is that there are feedback loops that involve matters outside the individual like others and objects that come into play before actions happen. im trying not to strawman you.
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>>533416460
As always, atheists require the patronage of the christians they despise to function else they devolve into barbarianism a-la Cambodia.
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The real reason that Christianity conquered paganism is not through some vast conspiracy. Christianity is a synthesis between Judaism and paganism. What was good about Judaism and paganism was kept and what was bad was tossed. Circumcision, temple orgies, human sacrifice, food restrictions, etc all gone.
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>>533420652
Israel larping was just one of many esoteric movements going on at the time, along with masonry, Thelma, clairvoyant seances, Druidic revival etc.
Bascially, the aristocracy had too much time on their hands, and nothing better to do.
Zionism coincides with the rise of nationalism on the European continent, when every ethno. Linguistic group of a half dozen people decided they were entitled to their own state.
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>>533423893
>Social input doesn’t remove the internal point within the individual where motivation actually occurs.
what is it that sets the boundaries for where motivation *actually* occurs? i dont know what that means and why you say *actually*. you dont deny that input from outside the self comes into play when motivated actions happen. so i dont fully understand what you mean.
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>>533421826
Wouldn't the Atheists be shifting to combating those two next now that Christianity has been decoupled? They'd get plenty of fans for it.
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>>533423623
Well, let's look at the criteria of goyslop. Is it cheap and easy to produce? Atheism, check. Is it highly detrimental to regular consumers? Atheism, check. Is it highly profitable to (((those))) who peddle it? Atheism, check.
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>>533424224
((they)) peddle religion all the time to enslave american evanggies so what the fuck are you talking about
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>>533424224
>Well, let's look at the criteria of goyslop. Is it cheap and easy to produce?
Sounds like the theme park/fast food religion that is Christianity. With over 3pk different versions, you're bound to find a flavor that gives you the most thrills
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>>533424321
>>533424369
No valid rebuttals. Opinions disregarded. Thanks for playing midwits.
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>>533424481
LOL you are a shill for christian zionists.
post a photo of your "Christians United for Israel" membership card.
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>>533424171
I don’t mean that causes are purely internal. The manifestation of a motivation is internal, the influence is external and reflected internally, how a certain decision affects my stance, internally and externally, towards others
Of course motivation depends on external inputs, feedback loops, and social interaction. My point is the point of integration, the place where different influences are combined into a single experienced drive that leads to action. That integration has to happen within a specific organism, otherwise you don’t get a unified action. So I’m not denying distributed causes, I’m pointing to where they become a coherent motivation.
And now my beer is finished and I will leave you with this for the evening.
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>>533416460
This should explain it
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>>533424481
>feelings hurt
Kek
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>>533424555
then the point of integration is sub-ego. like a subset of our intellect. anyways, take care dude. nice chatting
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>>533424536
Kek, can you explain the thought process behind this, I loosely use this word, idea.
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>>533424679
i aint ur slave. go ask a friend or an aibot to decrypt what others in this thread are telling you because you are sleepy and cant process or something. or drunk like we all are but at a next level
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>>533417212
>Why are so many jews atheists
There, I fixed your shitty headline.
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>You take a mortal man And put him in control Watch him become a god Watch people's heads a-roll A-roll, a-roll...

>[Chorus] Just like the Pied Piper Led rats through the streets We dance like marionettes Swaying to the symphony Of destruction

> Actin' like a robot Its metal brain corrodes You try to take its pulse Before the head explodes Explodes, explodes...

>[Chorus] Just like the Pied Piper Led rats through the streets We dance like marionettes Swaying to the symphony Just like the Pied Piper Led rats through the streets We dance like marionettes Swaying to the symphony Swaying to the symphony of destruction

> The Earth starts to rumble World powers fall A-warring for the heavens A peaceful man stands tall A-tall, a-tall...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCZrPllVhRQ
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>>533424877
Meh, you made a claim. Unironically, can't provide enough evidence to prove it. Seemed like you were going to at least be somewhat entertaining. Seems your ability to entertain is only equalled by your intellect.
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>>533424964
they are liars.
> quelle surprises. jews. lying??

they are not actually atheists. claiming that god reserved palestine for you is a religious claim. how do secular zionists argue that israel is only theirs without invoking religious arguments?
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>>533416460
>full of atheists who wanted to debate Christians.
it still happens. you haven't developed object permanence yet and still have the ego of a child.
truth is: people in general are pissed at christians for being kike golems. the debates used to stand out because atheists were challenging the status quo. now it's common to notice that Jesus never returned and their god ignores (or condones) the suffering of millions that includes his followers.
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>>533425137
you deny that zios use religion to control evangelicals. am i wrong?
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>>533417660
if jesus was so jewish why is he the figurehead of the most antisemetic religion ever?
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>>533425358
>the most antisemetic religion ever
Christ isn't the head of Islam.
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>>533416460
>What happened to the atheist movement?
Europe and America are less white, so now they're more religious. The reason there's so much Christ is Kang spam on /pol/ is because this whole site is half spics.
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>>533416460
Atheism won, nobody gives a shit about Jewish fairy tales anymore.
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>>533425358
>the most antisemetic religion ever?
seeing in how its a suicidal death cult, jesus isnt the head of judaism
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>>533422321
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWAhd4KkVUU
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>>533417390
The brirish empire was Christian. Worshipping western culture and denying Christianity is as retarded as a roman whining about their own gods and talking about how they need to revert to being tree fucker swamp people. You can't seperate what european culture attained from what they thought and believed.
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>>533417490
The anti-racist indoctrination is so strong he turned his back on atheism before accepting the truth, that non-white immigration is the problem. His short circuiting brain is conflating religion with race, because to consciously acknowledge the truth is impossible for these people.
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>>533416460
everyone grew up and became agnostic
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movement? People just don't care, I'm an atheist but I never think or care to think about that and it's not part of my personality at all. People can believe whatever retarded shit they want to believe, I'm not trying to "convert" anyone.
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>>533416612
this, woke retards killed atheism
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>the God Delusion
More like the load-bearing god delusion. Imagine running around advocating for what is tantamount to flipping a switch inside everyone’s head from “immortal” to “mortal” and doing away with internally imposed morality (read: law and order). What could possibly go wrong? Fucking insane. Dawkins should know better. Without religion, the game theory engine is king and the engine rewards Machiavellianism and psychopathy. Fucking silver spoon up his ass Brit has zero conception of man’s ground state and has made it his life’s work to revert us to that state.

Total atheist death!
T. Atheist.
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>>533425290
You're not, your just arguing with a retarded faggot
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>>533417490
there is no "movement"
atheists are all ALL christians with a grudge against god
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>>533427670
>Christians are all ALL atheist with a grudge against other gods
Ftfy
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>>533427618
thank you
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>>533416460
50% of atheists just wanted to hate on Muslims because they were Jewish or amerigoys hopped up on GWOT propaganda. The other 50% were gays that were butthurt about the American evangelical movement (which had managed to fully take over the US government by this point.) Once Bush fucked everything up internationally and the SC legalized gay marriage the atheist movement splintered into chuds and leftist gays. Nowadays most people are embarrassed about their involvement.
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>>533416460
There are still debates, retard. There are entire channels dedicated to those kinds of debates.
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>>533420330
short-sighted moron.
you fuckign atheists are all so god damn dense.
it's not about the fucking stories dipshit.
its about the shared community.
do you faggots get together for barbeques? or to help little old ladies? or to raise money for charity? no, no you fuycking don't.
because atheism is just worship of the self.
that's what the kids are missing and thats why they reject your self-centered bullshit.
they see how shallow and empty the world is and concluded (rightly) thats its your fucking fault
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>>533427730
did your priest touch your little pee pee as a child?
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>>533427854
>do you faggots get together for barbeques? or to help little old ladies? or to raise money for charity? no, no you fuycking don't.
I've done all those things
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>>533427900
No? Did that happen to you you?
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>>533427854
The fakes stories are what hold that community together, retard. So it is literally about the stories. When people stop believing the stories, they leave the community. Most atheists are former Christians.
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This thread was strong armed by a literal jeet. Half the replies are the jeet just attacking christians.
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>>533426266
Succinct.
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>>533428194
>brown Christians get destroyed by a "jeet"
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>>533420493
bumping this post
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>>533420493
This is what larpagans ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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>>533420226
Left Hand Path philosophy
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>>533427854
>worship of the self
No, that's Left Hand Path.
Atheism is having no gods
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>>533425641
The British empire was white. they achieved what they did because of that, not because of a dead kike. many niggers in Africa are christian and they don't do jack shit because they are niggers.
>>533429803
>larpagans
They are retarded just like (you) christcuck.
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>>533427854
I have barbeques, help elderly people, and donate money all without needing an imaginary friend nor an ancient fairytale that commands people to kill their kids cause the voice in their head said so.

Plus Christians only do nice things cause a work of fiction told them they'll get nice things back. Not because they truly derive fulfillment out of charity.

You can have community without needing a religious cult
It scare the religious nutjob to know that morality, social bonding, and philosophies on the meaning of life can exist without the need for a shizophrenic cult.



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