Will yankee's finally admit that it was about states' rights considering y'all yankee /pol/ types are known for rejecting mainstream reddit pop history?
States rights to slavery.
>>533419342State's right to own slaves, which Lincoln wouldn't have touched if you didn't rebel.
>>533419342Confederates fought for state's rights to BBC
States rights for what exactly? Care to elaborate?
>>533419760>>533419821>muh slaveryobsesssed>>533419892To protect our economic and political interests, and to preserve our culture.
The 1850 Fugitive Slaves Act forced free states to participate in the institution of slavery by federal writ. If anyone had the states' rights argument, it was the north.
>>533420637What would you do if your property ran away?
>>533420910I wouldn't cry to the federal government about it that's for sure.
>>533420991What if the federal government wanted to take away your property and your rights?
>>533421158>your property Being in this case, slaves.>and your rights?And in this case, the right to slavery.see >>533420991
>>533419342The right of states to implement slavery in their own and new states.
>>533421240Yes, the right to our property which did include slaves (that would have been freed anyhow due to industrialization). Emancipation was never the goal; it was to preserve the unholy godless union even at the cost of American, especially Southern, lives and rights.
>>533421244Slavery was already an institution that was going away anyhow, no matter who won.
>>533419342>Become Free Nation, founded on Freedom, enshrine a bunch of gabbing about being Free in Constitution. No more tyrants!>Be literally the most brutal slaver on the planet.That level of hypocrisy was eventually going to cause the country to either splinter or implode.
>>533421705\Well, yeah, it was. Unless you were not an American citizen. Or white.
>>533419342It was about power. Of course the Union won't let half of their country leave.
>>533421705Not even close to the "most brutal slaver" on the planet. The Caribbean and fucking Brazil beat us in just the Western Hemisphere, but the Arab slave trade was FAR worse by every metric.
>>533421830Exactly my point. The whole 'slavery' thing was moralfagging and a moot point. It was going to end one way or another.
>>533419342>yankee'smost likely this is a bot or a shill. The bigger truth is taxes were the bigger cause of the civil war. The south was paying a large percentage of the teriffs because they had no industry to make the things they needed. The industries in the north charged huge markups because they could. The south was being milked for profit and raw materials. There is a part in a (((Lincoln))) speach where he says he wouldn't care if the south left as long as they continued to pay taxes. There is lots on this if anyone tahlkes the time to look.https://civilwarcause.com/taxeffects.html
>>533420637Trvke. Southerners love to call it the "war of northern aggression" but really it was the War of Southern Aggression. >The south used an overbearing federal government to make the north comply with slavery (fugitive slave act)>The south resisted recolonization efforts of sending slaves to Africa or the Caribbean>The south tried to ally with Britain against the north, less than 100 years after we won our independence>The south seceded, splitting the country in two over slavery>The south fired the first shot (Fort Sumter)And then after the war, the south sent a bunch of former slaves up north. We could be a 90% white country if they didn't inflict their nigger worship on us. Southerners live with niggers. They fraternize with niggers. They prevent niggers from being deported. They intermarry with niggers. They act like niggers. They listen to nigger music. They speak with their nigger accents. They have the hearts and souls of niggers
>>533419342The whole war was a clusterfuck becasue some rebel hotheads, a fucking militia, started it by attacking Fort Sumter.There was no need to do this. They could safely have ignored the Fort, accepted it as a federal enclave and just let it alone.But by initiating an open act of warfare the Confederacy doomed itself to a war it could not hope to win.Now imagine if they had not attacked Fort Sumter. Then the Union would have had to declare a war on the South first, completely unprovoked, which would have been deeply unpopular and so unlikely to have happened.If not for the idiocy committed at Fort Sumter the Confederacy might still exist today.Historical note: South Carolina ceded the fort to the Union in 1836 becasue it was expensive to maintain and considered to be of questionable military value. P.S. Always happy to help out you poorly educated Yanks with your own history.
>>533419342The real reason? After 80 years, Northern states had 4x the population, 20M/5M, not counting an additional 4M niggers that were counted towards representation thru the 3/5 clause. Yankees were sick and tired of compromising and dividing power equally with a oligarchy of slave owners in Dixie as the country continued to expand.It's always about money and power first and foremost. Nobody gave a fuck about niggers. Abolitionists were just the useful idiots of the time.
>>533419342Indeed it could be said that the War Between the States was fought over "State's Rights" and resistance to a nascent tyranny (and even "managerialism") emerging from the Beltway. However, an issue not nearly mentioned enough is the fundamental position taken by the South that the institution of American slavery was derived from, that position being the assertion of inequality. Such was outlined by Vice President Stephens:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_Speechhttps://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/cornerstone-speechInequality, regardless of its manifestations. No two men are equal, nor two families, ethnicities, races, etc. They are not interchangeable. This was the position that the Confederacy held in the most fundamental regard. This contrasts starkly with President Lincoln, who was an early adopter of the "Propositional Nation" idea.https://msa.maryland.gov/megafile/msa/speccol/sc5300/sc5339/000091/000000/000004/restricted/dred_scott/lincoln.htm>"They meant to set up a standard maxim for free society, which should be familiar to all, and revered by all; constantly looked to, constantly labored for, and even though never perfectly attained, constantly approximated, and thereby constantly spreading and deepening its influence, and augmenting the happiness and value of life to all people of all colors everywhere."The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution subsequent was not dedicated to "Ourselves and our posterity," but instead a proposition that "All men are created equal," (interpreted to mean tabula rasa/ all nurture no nature.) This is the ascent of the idea that anyone can be an American as long as they believe the correct things. THIS is what the war was fought over, the question of "Who is this country for?" Posterity or Proposition?>>533421705>Be literally the most brutal slaver on the planetGet realhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43u9nMfgtYchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhzuJyVG4Yk
>>533419342start of the war>confederates: it's about slavery!>union: it's about preserving the nation!end of the war>confederates: it's about preserving the nation!>union: it's about slavery!
>>533419838>mutt lawcase in point
>>533421705Freeman is a title of nobility, liberal systems are genetically aristocratic
>>533421705the arab slavers were far more brutal, they literally castrated everyone, male and female (except in yemen it seems)
>>533423989Brazil is the most mutted country on the planet. Our muttedness is directly correlated to how similar we are to you. I guess it's only appropriate that negro-worshipping confederates moved to Brazil after the war.
