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They defeated America…
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>>533424386
Trump should kill himself
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What exactly is Americas win condition?
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>>533424386
sucha fucking jewish word salad
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>>533424386
ok, mohammed
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this is just getting started. america is the world energy power and israel is going to take advantage of the window. I for one will take an iranian cutie refugee.
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>>533424386
Nobody talks about it, but we have the BEST surrenders, okay? People are always saying, “Sir, how do you surrender so beautifully?” And I tell them, it's a talent, a real gift. Other countries, they surrender, it’s a disaster, total mess, very embarrassing. Ours? Strong, classy, maybe the strongest surrender anyone’s ever seen. Generals come up to me, big tough guys, tears in their eyes, they say, “We've never seen anything like it, sir.” And it's true! We do it better than anybody. The fake news won't report it, of course, but everybody knows, we're number one in surrendering. Sad!
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>>533424450
Gay parade in Tehran
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>>533424386
Trump won
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>>533424386
The problem is, it's not possible to win something when there's really no win conditions. Iran is a country of 95 million people, is basically impossible to invade, and has thousands of years of history.

Unironically, the best case scenario was the agreement that Obama had with Iran. The only other option is to just nuke them (which would be hilarious since it would do more harm to the USA than Iran in the long run.)
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Don’t forget that Iran hit multiple thaad system AND were able to fire dozens missiles a day before the ceasefire

USA clearly failed to destroy their missiles launch capability and iran been saying this, seems pretty proud on their ability to still being able to fire missiles

Also, satellites images show how they JUST removing rocks from collapse underground tunnel entrance, because they store missiles and launcher there

Pretty funny how they JUST move the rocks from the collapse entrance, seems simple.

This picture of trucks who removing rocks…
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>>533424574
I want to remind you that the current problems in Iran are all Trump's fault. He's the one who killed the JCPOA saying he could get a better deal, and they was unable to close the deal for his entire presidency. He's the George W Bush to his own George Bush Sr.
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>>533424450
securing greater israel
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>>533424450
ZOG would need regime change in Iran. Which they stupidly thought would happen by just dropping some bombs, when all that did was strengthen Iran's resolve.

Realistically ZOG has no realistic win condition here, so all the orange puppet can do is try to find a way to back out and spin it as totally-not-a-defeat. But even that's not possible because the jews won't allow us to back out even if we want to.
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>>533424386
>Ravi
good morning saar
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>>533424450
Win: Wreck Iran for Israel
Lose: Israel is destroyed
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>>533424386
what war?
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>>533424450
Obama's Iran nuclear deal, except Trump takes the credit for it. And the tolls Iran is exacting on ships, except they go to Trump instead. And Trump taking credit for the strait existing and being open, the way it was before.
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>>533424450
Plan A was to destroy the regime with an astroturfed revolution and it didn’t work. Plan B was to destroy the regime with air strikes but that didn’t work. Now is we blockade 20% of the worlds oil supply until they hand over their uranium and pray we estimated the amount they have correctly. Plan D will be ground invasion if that takes too long.
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>>533425174
>even that's not possible because the jews won't allow us to back out even if we want to.
Only way ZOG gets what it wants is nukes or a GWOT style invasion of Iran. Trump seems to be cognizant enough to know that boots on the ground is impeachment territory for him. So I don't see how ZOG wins this.
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>>533425174
Why doesn’t Israel just use Indians as cannon fodder while they do the more sophisticated stuff? They have a way bigger population they can mobilize and seem pretty willing to die for Israel unlike Americans.
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>>533424450
When you attack someone, it's because:
OptionA: You want to murder all of them
OptionB: You want to control (regime change) all of them
OptionC: You want to steal from them

Neither option A, option B, option C happened.
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>>533424386


global shipping should be shutdown permanently

time to cull the shit skins
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>>533424450
Regime change with a puppet government
bomb them into the stone age/create a failed state incapable of opposing Israel
JCPOA deal but with Iran completely de-fanged
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>ravi agrawal
>editor in chief
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>>533425520
>create a failed state incapable of opposing Israel
China and Russia have put their foot down on that one. It's clear that they won't tolerate Iran becoming a failed state.
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>>533424386
>Offer Bibi to Iran as a truce
>Bail
2 regimes changed for the price of one. Ending 11 Wars. Build that ballroom.
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>>533424450
Return to the 2015 status quo except Trump-branded
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>>533425461
Decidedly false. There's hundreds of alternative reasons
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>>533424554
Won at deep throating Jewish cock, yes.
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>>533424386
They defeated America by destroying their neighbors energy infrastructure while leaving America's extraction and refining capacity intact.
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Imagine if Trump said israel to fuck off
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>>533424386
If your enemies survive, you lose.
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>>533424386
>An expert's point of view
>By Ravi Agrawal
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>>533424450
1. Disrupt their nuclear program. Winning would be taking their uranium supply or killing their nuclear scientists or something.
2. Degrade their military capabilities. Essentially humiliation for their armed forces. Already accomplished. They got killed and couldn't hit an aircraft carrier or do anything to stop it.
3. Regime change. Their leadership is dead but they installed similar leadership, so no success so far.
4. Destroy proxy terrorist groups. Hard to measure this one, it's just the ongoing kill as many terrorists as possible struggle. They have less money because Iran has less money to sponsor them with.
5. Make Gulf allies happy. They want Iran weakened without taking too much damage, so this is accomplished. Iran was unable to do anything to retaliate.
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>>533426561
>hundreds
Name 20.
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The loss will be worse after this week. Land offensive will fail badly. Trump will blame hegseth. Throw him under the bus, declair victory and on to lose in Cuba. Empire dead 250 years.
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>>533427129
>5. Make Gulf allies happy.
Dubai is going bankrupt, but you can help them by going on holiday there.
Go on Mutt. Stay true to your word if you believe they won.
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>>533424386
>rabi arah
>why is amalek still breathing?
They wont stop till they nuke the entire planet
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>>533427228
The UAE is a key ally pushing for aggressive action against Iran, pushing to keep fighting to weaken Iranian regional influence.
You are a simpleton Euro peasant.
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>>533424386
Hamas won
Hezbollah won
Iran won
>mfw
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>>533427343
>The UAE
Will be uninhabitable pnce power plants and water treatment plants explode, then they will migrate to London and your cities. Enjoy.
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>>533427420
Two more weeks.
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>>533427411
Houthis too
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>>533427158
I'm not going to write out 20 sentences for you.
Literally destroying their nuclear program is a reason for war outside of your erroneous limitations
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>>533427129
>Iran was unable to do anything to retaliate
is this bait, a shill or an idiot?
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>>533427585
>I'm not
Thanks for conceding Mutt.
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>>533427585
that would be B, controll them
>>533427759
next thing he tells us is that the US won the vietnam war
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>>533424422
Right after he wins and you throat his cum of victory.
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>>533427583
carriers would rather go around africa than tread near the houthi chads.
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>>533427759
I can't wait for you trannies to get tired of beating your head against the wall and fuck off back to plebbit.
I provided the counter, if you can't deal with it then just admit defeat like a rational creature
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>>533424386

>"if I keep saying it, maybe it will make it true"

kys and go back to plebbit, nigger
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>>533424386
The Jews are to blame.
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>>533427129
Holy migger cope lmao!
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>>533427790
It wouldn't. The insinuation of regime change implies a larger level of control, otherwise steal would be redundant since that's a similar level of control
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>>533427411
checked
the US can't use the suez channel anymore, due to the houthi closed it for them
>>533427846
yupp, not a good look for "the hegemon of the seas"
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>>533427585
sure dont bother kim jong un who has them. or pakistan. odd.
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>>533427933
If you don't understand the difference then you might need a helmet
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>>533424386
What's the point in whining every day like a drunk whore on an anonymous forum about a foreign president? Just invade the USA and change their regime or provoke the USA to invade and annex you for you to vote for the next US president.
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>>533427921
you need a large amount of control to stop the nuclear program
>otherwise steal would be redundant since that's a similar level of control
no, stealing implies you fuck off after you got what you wanted, control means making decisions on behalf of unwilling subjects
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>>533428000
yeah that you are fighting for rabbis and not commen sense faggot.
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>>533424450
Our win condition is to get back to where we were before the war, now with far fewer resources. Winning!
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>>533428055
>fighting for rabbis
Looks like a normal thing for the USA, Democrats don't seem different regarding the rabbi thing, but the article intentionally singles Trump out, which means it is a TDS article.
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>>533428295
Because he fights harder for the rabbis than anyone, no previous D or R president was dumb or compromised enough to go to war with Iran
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Kiked
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>>533428028
It doesn't. There is no real difference at that level. It's people's willingness to keep what they want be it nuclear apparatus or oil barrels
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>>533428055
I provided you common sense. Issue is you don't have the capacity
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>>533424450
Humiliating Iran, which they accomplished
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>>533427834
I can't describe how little I think of you retards
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>>533429004
i really had hope a mutt could understand his own language
my bad, i'm sorry
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>>533429065
>couldn’t open pool
>threatened to bomb them if they didn’t open pool
>TACOd out of bombing them
>pool still wasn’t opened
>closed the pool themselves
>”opened” pool
>declared victory
Idk man, America humiliate themselves each day this go on. Hegseth alone is humiliating for the nation
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>>533424386
>by Retarded Jeet Faggot
Okay, canuck queer.
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>>533429065
Cope kike
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>>533424450
There isn't one.

The Saudis are pissed at the US after spending 100's of billions to buy American protection, only to have everything blow up in just a month. The Saudis are the only reason the petrol dollar even exists, and their entire economy is slowly collapsing in the background while Trump tries to play the market by timing his social media posts.

It's bad enough the Saudis sent an envoy to Xi begging China to stop the Iranians in exchange for full-tilt alignment to petrolyuan; Xi politely told them to fuck off.

it's currently a "who blinks first" contest, and everyone is waiting to see who's going to collapse first: Iran, Israel, America, or all the Asian US allies who are dependent on Middle Eastern petroleum + fertilizer + helium (which Qatar produces 1/3 of global supplies and is critical for semiconductors).

Everyone is running on reserves right now, so shit won't hit the fan until physical shortage starts happening everywhere.
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>>533429130
>no rebuttal
This is getting boring
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>>533429935
>no rebuttal
i explained the difference to you
you went "nu-hu" and told me some BS
why trying to convince you if you are an idiotic faggot?
the notion of broader concepts is too high for you, as you have evidently shown
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>>533424422
Yes, he should declare victory, fire Vance nuke the capital building with congress in it and then kill himself. He took an oath to defend America. Do oaths mean nothing to him?
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>>533427411
Kabobs for every body!
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>>533427585
>destroying their nuclear program

What nuclear program? Defending Trump is a fool's errand. You are a fool.
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>>533424551
kek
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The win condition is the destruction of Israel and it looks like Trump is winning.
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>>533429244
>kills shia pope, top officials and all your generals as a fuck you
>trump says the war will end in 4-5 weeks after assassination
>gets said peace
>gulf arab oil refineries still largely intact
>iran suffers massive damage to their oil infrastructure
yeah it's a victory for trump
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>>533424386
shitskin cope
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>>533431120
Literally, lmao. Every time a single Israeli or American soldier died you would see these retards celebrate. Meanwhile hundreds were dying each day in Iran. Iranian and Western societies have a different valuation of life.
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>>533424386
Welcome to TKD.
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Consider this
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>>533424450
>What exactly is Americas win condition?
distracting all of us from trump raping kids with yids like his buddy epstein.
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Now that the thread topic is disregarded to make for your way, do this
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>>533424386
I find it fascinating that /k/ope is not even defending Trump and the Iran war anymore. Has this ever happened? /k/ full of HAFO, Israel loving Zionists and baby boomer larpers. They think drop fucked up the Iran war. It
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>>533424386
>winning merely by surviving
That goes for all the leftists nowdays
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>>533424450
At this point they have settled for opening the straight back up. Which ironically is a self inflicted wound. Like shooting yourself in the foot in a fight, going to the hospital, and claiming you won because you didn't bleed to death.
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The CIA are not just a small dumgeon number of white public school ((((educated)))) teens to the massa masses, but the enemy.
Trump is a hostage now. Are you a bad enough dude?
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>>533424386
Better get gas tomorrow. Don't wait til Monday. Thank orange daddy.
>>533424574
Kys gay poster
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Trump started a conflict with no tangible goals, and still managed to fail to meet his goals.
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>>533424386
>the jew is upset

We're winning.
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>>533432478
What the fuck are you talking about? Of course they're defending it, you're just too pussy to go into the Iran threads, lmao.
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>>533429840
>saudis begged for china to help in exchange for petroyuan
oh my god. Did you find out about this from middle eastern journalism?
also I'm surprised that they thought china wanted a petroyuan
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>>533424386
I posted this yesterday how since iran was attacked, for as long as they haven't lost, they're winning. now this jackass saw the post and
ok, maybe I can't be the only one to think of it
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>>533424985
Israel is a people; not a nation.
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>>533424386
shitskin cope
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SAAR YOU LOSE IRAN SAAR, BLOODY BITCH BASTERD!!!
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oh
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>>533430084
>I explained the difference
I blew apart your ridiculous explanation and you fell into whining.
It's sad
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>>533432757
>Multiple threads on /k/ making fun of Trump and the Iran war
>Meme flag lying
Found the MIGA /k/oper.
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Kikked
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>>533424450
Endless debt slavery and gay pride parades in tehran
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>>533436274
Lol. Cope
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>>533424386
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>>533424450
For isreal to the last Muslim obvious.

Notice how out of nowhere Lebanon is now getting attacked? More children this world needs more children!!!
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>>533430426
YUCK, oats.
>>533436274
kek, why are americans not realizing this war isn't ever going to be a win? The cost is already more than it's ever worth. Now USA and the kikes want to at least pretend to have dealt with the nuclear threat but Iran isn't giving them that. Hence the weird "muh nuclear dust collection" news that makes no fucking sense.
It almost seems like senile retards shouldn't be president.
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>>533424386
>article from March 30, 2026

And retarded shills are so delusionally desperate at this point that they creamed and piled into this shitty thread. KEK
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>>533425585
>ravi agrawal
This guy has a wife.
Quite an achievement, looking at picrel.
The world is big enough
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Keked
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>>533432283
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>>533437150
Gonna care enough to reply?
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>>533424450
swamp > dark ritual > drain life
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A few days after...
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>>533424496
>>533424554
/thread
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>>533437605
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>>533424554
oh no, your real chance at an only whites world is gone. now is jewish cock slurping time
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>>533438294
It is Oil of the Saver time.
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((((L)))) thread ends the moment I see all the /pol/ demons off the edge.
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You have to never take meds so you can SAVE with that influence.
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>>533424386
>Iran
We are not quite dead yet! Maybe tomorrow.
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>>533424386
Mighty Trump can never be defeated.
ULTIMATE MAGA
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>>533425247
Apparently Iran was actually proposing a stricter version of Obama's nuclear deal in the negotiations before the ZOGbots decided to bomb the negotiators.
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>>533424450
Noahide Iran
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>>533439508
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>>533439681
Trump is a loser and he will be remembered as the LOSER PRESIDENT
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>>533424450
Sucking Netanyahu's cock 30 times in two minutes.
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>>533436580
>nuclear dust

He's not speaking to you, or the world in general. He's speaking in terms MAGA can understand. Enriched uranium is too complex.
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>>533425331
>Now is we blockade 20% of the worlds oil supply until they hand over their uranium and pray we estimated the amount they have correctly.
that's not a win condition, that's a face-saving farce.
they can and will always just enrich more uranium.
a nation of 90 million people will always be a threat, so for the US (or rather Israel) to win they have to be mind-raped to serve jews.
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>>533424450
For Iran to no longer be a threat to Israel. Iranians are a higher IQ people, and even if they got rid of all their enriched uranium that could still make more. So what they want is to get rid of the Islamic government and replace it with a secular one, then they'll gay bomb it.
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>>533424386
>help me I'm winning
t.sand nigger
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>>533440904
When has Iran asked for help? Trump though has been begging that Europe joins the war, so more whites can die for Israel.
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>>533424386
Alright, you Europeans really need to get over Trump. I dislike the guy too, but making it your whole personality to hate him is pathetic. Let it go man...
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>>533424539
Trump totally botched his attempted surrender by lying and gloating to pump the market Friday and now he'll have to take worse terms and/or suffer even greater damage as oil spirals.
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>>533424386
Hegseth quoting Samuel L. Jackson from Pulp Fiction like it's a bible verse is the epitome of being jewed up horrendously
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>>533431120
>$11b US economic damage
lmfao
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>>533424422
are you implying he has honor?
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>>533424450
Israel existing for another day
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>>533424386
>Ravi Agrawal
If poopjeets say Iran won then Iran lost.
It's really that simple.

There are these things called objective measures of reality and damage inflicted and Iran, according to their own estimates, is fucked. They are claiming $270 billion in damage which is 2/3s of their GDP and over 5 years of their entire government's budget of ~$50 billion a year. So right now they are looking at over a decade to rebuild since they wouldn't be able to spend every penny of their fiscal budget on this.
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>>533427420
This. This is why dunecoon wars are so bad: rapefugees.
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>>533443019
It's called a pyrric victory, anon.
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>>533425174
>the jews won't allow us to back out even if we want to.
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>>533444953
Even that is a cope. Iran has consolidated its place as regional power, if not as global one. America can't do anything about Iran selling oil how they like. People will be buried, buildings repaired and things go on.
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>>533427217
I don't think the US will lose to Cuba but it's begging for some refugee crisis right into Florida and neighbouring countries right before the midterms
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>>533424386
Kek what a retarded bait thread
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>>533424386
They haven't defeated America because the whole America hasn't participated in that war

Only the united states of america did, which is one of the many countries in America
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TOTAL

ZIONIST

DEFEAT
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>>533446386
When did europeans became such deluded retards? the US is literally restraining itself so cucks like you don't start crying like little girls
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>>533448061
Like with Afganistan and Vietnam? When ever "super power" goes to war, you hear the same cope. Soon gloves come off, they get serious soon. It's pure cope. America can't into winning.
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>>533424422
Please do.
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>>533424554
Cope
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>>533424574
Based.
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>>533424901
Extreme truth. Trump lost
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>>533424450
Iran not getting nukes for the short term, regime change for the long term. This is pretty much repeated ad nauseam I don't know how people keep inventing new conditions for what the US needs to do to 'win'. Regime change has always been a pipe dream they hate Sunni Muslims far more than they hate jews, they're never going to cooperate with the likes of Dubai, Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia.
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>>533424450
USA's win conditions:

1) Regime change in Iran
2) Open and free Strait of Hormuz
3) No nuclear program for Iran either through force or a deal

At this point, only the 2nd one seems achievable, and even then, the only reason why it was closed in the first place was literally caused by USA itself.
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>>533424450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC_Ram9P2ds
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>>533448870
America made sure Iran gets more hardline leader, and solified the will to get nukes. They assured that theocracy stands as they murdered the grand cleric during negotiations, while muslim world celebrates their holiest holiday. Iran Closed the strait of hormuz because of war America started. America just tries to reverse the mess they have made.
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>>533424386
>jeet posting jeet articles
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>>533424450
When Israel says so
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https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/Screenshot%20_pol_/
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>>533440904
If the situation was reversed and Trump, JD, Rubio, etc were dead the first day
Iranian planes flying overhead in daylight
And the Whitehouse twitter boasting about how they captured an Iraqi halal stick
Then everyone coping about how Iran won would be endlessly spamming how over it is for America
They're just retards who deny and lie to themselves until the regime collapses like Assad then they spam WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE THERE HATED HIM WTF BUT WHAT ABOUT ISRAEL TALK ABOUT ISRAEL INSTEAD



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