>be burgerian/yuro>want to take a hot shower>have to plan ahead, buy an expensive boiler, have to spend extra to have a plumber install cooper pipes around the house, have to pay for gas to fuel it, have to worry about his boiler not exploding and killing your family, have to spend hours moving two knobs until you have a heat balance between hot and cold water and this balance shifts for some time, have expensive and specialized maintenancehttps://youtu.be/THf7j3VIRxA?t=5>be brasileiro>buy an electrical shower for under 20 dollars in any random store, install it in 5 minutes, move or turn a button to choose how hot you want your water, turn the water handle and enjoy a warm bath>maintenance is poking a needle once a year on the holes where the water gets out (if you live in a place with lots of minerals in the water) and changing the resistance when it breaks with 5 minutes of labourWhy are firstoids so scared of harnessing the power of the electron? Nikola invented the electricity so you could have practical appliances at your house, and still you keep living like the neanderthals used to. Water heaters / boilers are a scam, created by plumbers and other tradesmen guilds to force you to pay for installation, expensive equipment and maintenance. Just accept that the future is now and get a based electrical shower.
Shhhh dont tell OP about electrical water heaters you can put under your sink.
>>533443226uhwut
turn that shit off and take the cold shower pill. yes even in winter
>>533443226Using electricity for heating is a massive waste when you have access to natural gas. An exception is an efficient enough heat pump, but such a simple and small tool like picrel would not include a heat pump.
>>5334432261) here, electricity is cheaper than gas.2) in cold places, the water gets very cold. An electric shower wouldn't work.3) their electrical system would have to be redone, either because it would require very high currents, or because the distribution is designed differently.you don't even know what you're talking about.
>>533443226we have tank-less heaters lil niggathey are electricity black holes
i im in poland and i have hot water in pipe. based communist can build pipes and these type of things.
>>533443473>2) in cold places, the water gets very cold. An electric shower wouldn't work.What the fuck does that even mean? There are electric furnaces that can melt fucking steel, why would it not be possible to heat water from 1-2 celcius to around 30-40?>3) their electrical system would have to be redone, either because it would require very high currents, or because the distribution is designed differently.It should only require around 2kW, which is about 8 amps
>>533443473You make it sound insanely expensive
>>533443226comfy af i wish i was brasilero
>>533443226>You know what's a good idea>Having electricity in my waterI mean Brazilians aren't famous for being smart, but come on, this is a special kind of retardness.
>>533443627>>533443444we like strong, fast warm showers from 7800W showerheads, like the one in the OP's photo.that little showerhead and these little electric boilers would never be popular here.
>>533443473what the fuck are you even talking about? you take a tiny shitty heater like >>533443381, cram all three phases into it and it brings water to scalding hot instantly even in the dead of winter, and the hot water comes out of any faucet in the house, do you brush your teeth with cold water or have a heating tap or what?what the fuck am i even reading
>>533443721see >>533443712
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>>533443638kek one of my fav pepes of all time
>>533443712>7800W showerheads, like the one in the OP's photo.You are telling me that little shit pulls almost 8kW? Lmao. And if you did some simple calculations you would notice that heating the water that much would boil you alive.
>>533443768>7800Wnigga, that shitty cheap heater is 24000 wattsbrain sperged put
You can identify this as fake thread from the fact that OP suggest buying an expensive electric shower head instead of simply stealing a used hairdryer and running the water trough that.
>>533444050So 24kW? Lol. Also what the fuck, do macacos not know what a boiler is? 100L electric boiler is 100$, probably cheaper over there, 2 people can easily shower with it, you can take a bath with it. 150L boiler is enough for a family with 3 kids.
>>533443381>not buying vaillant or viessmann boiler
We need warm water in pipes to heat the houses anyway in winter. It's called central heating. Also we don't use boilers and the central heating units now a day are completely safe
>>533443473Shut the fuck up, it is not even the highest wattage appliance I have in my own house. It would be fine. >>533444062An electrical shower is cheaper than a hairdryer btw. Why waste a hairdryer for this instead of using it to blow air for your homemade forge?
>>533443226>it's just 60V down the stream - it's harmless, pussyidk, I think I'll stick with my central heating
>>533443444>yes even in winter>Singapore is situated near the equator and has a typically tropical climateYou don't know what winter is.
>>533443226>have to pay for gas to fuel itA what? All of our shit has been solar/electrical since 1990s. 9 out of 12 months it's scorching hot free water. For the other 3 you might need some 30m to heat it. Let the non-Med goys deal with gas and shit.
>>5334439578kW isn't nearly enough in western world. US showers pull 10 liters of water per minute, call that 0.15 liter per second. Dumping 8kW into that only raises it up by 12 degrees, which when it comes in at 10 degrees from the ground would still be cool shower. This is why no one uses these in the civilized world.
>>533443226In Soviet Russia hot water just comes out of the tap.That said, just get a normal electric boiler, nigga.
sauna + cold shower ftw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=J-B16DzAhkU
>>533443473>in cold places, the water gets very cold. An electric shower wouldn't workI use it in my vacation home in the mountain the water is ice cold, it's called an instant water heater and works just fine, electrical infrastructure is 50 years old.
>>533444050>>533443957we don't need 24K Watts, thoughour ACQUA STORM 7800W domestic waterfall offer an ultra-strong and comfy shower
>>533443957Actually, that is a 7800W shower, it is one of the first results you get for 7800W, 220V showers. >it would boil you alive!No, because the water is heated for just a few instants before being pushed out. That is the magic of the electrical shower safety. You don't "turn it on". When a certain amount of water pressure passes through it, it turns on automatically. If the water pressure gets down, meaning no flow of water (due to no water coming up from the pipe) it turns off immediately. You turn the handle to close the water flow, it turns off automatically. It is impossible to boil water on an electrical shower.
>>533444366>ultra strong>7800weither the pressure is shit or the water's not hotstop coping
>>533444366Does your mouth offer an ultra-strong and comfy shower for my cock?
>>533444379>it turns off immediately.If not the remaining water would create steam
>>533444582Obviously. But it doesn't happen, because it turns itself off from low water pressure, making it 100% safer than a water heater / boiler that the neanderthals use.
>>533444488the water already comes in kinda warm from the tap because of the weather
>>533444640water heaters work the exact same way, retard, the shower is just a tiny electric water heater that can't heat up as much water volume per minutedo you retards think people heat water over a fire or something?
>>533443226you have the half assed nigger rigged ugly unsafe versions of what we now install. tankless water heaters. and you are proud of your inferior shit.can't you stop being sub-humans on ONE fucking thing? just once? for a change? entertainment like?
>>533444727Once again, the average burgerian/yuro house event, the boiler explosion, happening every other year:https://youtu.be/THf7j3VIRxA?t=5
We've had electric showers for a long long time but they are shit for half the year when you have to turn them to max heat and the water pressure turns to shit. Mains water shits all over it.
>>533443226We have hot water for things like dishwashers and washing machines but huehues don't know about that and think their turdworld shower options are somehow comparable
>>533444366There's just no way your apartment/house has 35A to spend. How is this shit wired even? You really have a 6mm2 copper cable running to that heater? This is bullshit.
>>533445157my dishwasher heats the water itself.and washing machines don't need to heat the water.
>>533443226Yo dis sum classic internet bait ass bullshit n its a muhfuckin masterclass in how yall b havin janky ass volts n callin it a flex. Dis ain technology dis is infrastructure poverty w a plastic cover on it.Da post a whole ass troll job cuz it act like it ain neva heard of da one muhfuckin law u cant run from: Ohms Law dummy. Watts equal Volts times Amps. Period.Lemme break dis shit down Barney-style fo u Firstoid muhfuckas who think yall can just twist a $20 suicide shower head onto yall weak ass wall n not end up a crispy critter or shiverin like a stray dog.>1. Da Voltage Cap (110 vs. 220)Look. Dat Brazilian chuveiro b runnin on a dedicated 220V (or dat 127V high-amp) line. Mo portantly dat hoe b PULLIN damn near 4500 to 7500 Watts.Over here in da States? Yall standard wall jawn is 110V/120V at a punk ass 15 Amps. Dat shit max out at like ~1800 Watts on a good day.U go head n plug dat Brazilian jawn into a US badroom outlet. U know whatchu gon get? Sum piss-warm dribble. If u lucky. Breaker prolly gon pop fore u even get da shampoo ladered. Yall want a hot shower on 110V? U gon need a wire thick as a sumbitch dumb n a breaker big as a Bible. Das why we got dem 240V plugs in da laundry room fo da dryer not in da spot where u wash yo ass.
>>533445361>2. Dey Call It a "Suicide Shower" Fa a Muhfuckin Reason BDa only reason dis joint cost $20 down in Brazil is cuz da heatin element is bare butt-naked nichrome wire sittin inside da gotdamn water stream like 3 inches from yo dome.- First World Code: Yall cant have SHIT das live electrically widin splashin distance of da tub widout sum heavy-duty groundin GFCI/RCD n allat extra safety money shit. A $20 shower head w da wires hangin out da back? Dat bitch fail ERRY single code book from here to London. Straight up illegal.- Groundin? Wut Groundin?: Niggas down dere (specially in dem old cutty houses) da "ground" wire b wrapped around a rusty pipe or just swingin in da breeze ain connected to shit. Over here in da US? A plumber hook up sum shit dat make da water spicy n he ain got a inspected ground rod? He goin to jail da second sumbody ass get fried.>3. Gas Go BOOM vs. Electricity Go ZAPHow we do it over here? "Yeah Im finna keep my big ass boiler in da basement or da attic 20 whole feet away from where Im standin nekkid fore I stand under sum contraption mixin 220 volts n water in a plastic shell made fo $2 in sum factory in Manaus."N dat lil trick u talmbout? Pokin da holes w a needle cuz da lime clogged it? DAS DA SHIT DAT GET FOLKS KILT. Limescale build up on dat bare wire. It get too hot. Da copper melt. Den BZZZZT. Now da whole gotdamn water stream is a live phase wire. N u standin in it wet as hell. Goodnight Irene.>4. Trickle vs. Pressure WashReason we got dem tanks? Pressure fool.- Yall Shower: To get dat water hot w no watts dey choke da flow down to a babys sigh. It b a warm mist. U might as well spit on yaself.- Our Sheeit: We heat up 50 gallons of water slow as hell over time. When u cut dat knob on? BOOM. Niagara Falls of hot water beatin yo back like it owe u money.
>>533445213shower installations in Brazil typically range from 40 to 50 A.theoretically it could support 11k W showerheads
>>533445383>Final Word:Dat Brazilian shower? Das a survival hack. Its sum real I ain got gas lines in da favela n copper cost too much so fuck it we ball energy. Its genius fo what it is. Poverty engineering.Da Firstoid boiler? Das comfort money. Das da difference between pushin a 70s Bug u can fix w a rock (but datll fold u up like a accordion if u hit a curb) n pushin a new Volvo dat need a damn computer science degree to change da oil (but u walkin away from da wreck).Enjoy dat $20 zap water playa. Just keep yo wet ass hands off da faucet handle fore u see da light. Fr.
>>533443226>have to spend extra to have a plumber install cooper pipes around the house, have to pay for gas to fuel it, have to worry about his boiler not exploding and killing your familyAnon, we can buy electrical water boilers that also have a tank attached, we just like to insulate them really well.
>>533443226>people living in blazing hot countries wonder why we have boilersits not even about the cold, your house will be damp for 6 months
>>533445259>you don't need hot water to disinfect your clothesWrong you dirty jungle monkey
>>533445501we have something called "sun" here
>>533445259>and washing machines don't need to heat the water.Does your washing machine not have multiple modes for multiple kinds of fabric? They feature different temperatures and different rotating speeds
>>533443226>be brazilian>die in the shower
>>533445857nope, my washing machine has several washing and load modes, spin cycles, etc, but mine is simpler and I just leave the clothes to dry in the sun.
>>533443627>It should only require around 2kW, which is about 8 ampsI takes just over 4 kJ to raise 1 liter of water 1 degree C.So to heat one liter from 10C to 40C it takes 125 kJoules.Typical shower has a flow rate of 10 liters per minute.So it requires 125*10/60 = 20.8 kW of power to have a comfortable shower.In Europe typical household circuits are limited to 3.6 kW, although you could get a 3 phase connection that can output 22kW but they are more expensive and if the whole neighborhood takes a morning shower the grid would collapse.
>>533445396Based. I want that POWER huebroAre random electrocutions commonplace (outside of the shower)?
>>533446040kek.... it's uncommon even in the shower.accidents only happen when the person doesn't know how to install that thing and doesn't understand what they're doing.
>>533445259>>533445501Hot water helps clean the clothes.It's not to disinfect anything, although running the 90C program a few times a year will keep the inside of the machine cleaner.It's not strictly necessary but if you wash at 40C your clothes will be cleaner than if you wash at 20C.Makes it easier for grease to dissolve and helps the enzymes do their thing.Normally the coldest setting is 30C, I'm not 100% sure but I think the enzymes in the detergent don't activate at all in colder water.
>>53344597510 liters per minute sounds too much
>>533443226Anon....we have that shit here too. https://www.diy.com/departments/bathroom/showers/electric-showers/DIY822109.cat
>>533446460We also have proper indoor plumbing.
>>533446312nice, that's perhaps the reason my wife keeps scrubbing away the toughest dirt with her hands... keki will gift her one of these new LG washing machine/dryer that heat the water as well
>>533443226It's not the 70s any more you retarded ape, we have electric showers now, they just don't kill us
>>533445396>horseshitinstant electric water heaters run around 2.7 to 3.5kw you literally do not need more.
>>533443226>huemonkey is retardedMany, many such cases
This thread is awesome and this shit right here is the fucking cherry on top. >>533445361>>533445383
>>533443226I like how you didn’t say yuropoor because you’re poorer than us
>>533448015for me, wealth is looking outside my house and seeing many hectares of untouched, protected primary native forest. i think one square kilometer here has more species than the whole of Germany.. kek
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>>533443226piano be like>oh shit *closes*
>>533444803That only happens when retards cap the pressure relief valves. Also don't you favela monkies wire your shit directly into the mains with reckless abandon?
>>533443226I have an 80 gallon water heater in the basement and it's been there for 15 years. I can take my showers as hot or cold as I want by turning the knob.Idk what else I would want.
>>533443226It's called a hot water heater lmao ... A boiler... Are you fucking stupid? $400 and hot water for 10 years.
>>533444679which is precisely why it's not an option here in europe
>>533443226its because the copper right?itd get stolen?
>>533443226What are you talking about?My city provides the hot water
>>533443638We used to have one of those. Sometimes you would be shocked by the water, sometimes it worked fine. It was always a gamble jumping to the water.
>>533453902burrozilans have 11 months of unbearably hot weather and a couple weeks of chilly (15c at the coldest) climate
>>533443226>be a dirty huehue favella macaco>doesn't know what the fuck boiler is>assumes retarded shit with 100% certaintly>gets shot by another favella macaco
>>533445383>choke da flow down to a babys sighFucking kek, best poster on /pol/ in years
siogreenusa.com/thread
>>533445361>>533445383Helluva post. Thank you Dr Trayvon.
>>533443226>be retarded macacos>not know what a heat-exchanger is>people still get electrocuted with that malarkey>mixing water with electricity, ever.
>>533455042Reminds of something youtuber AvE would say.
>>533455871water never is mixed with electricitywho is the retarded now? LOL
>>533456094why do people get shocked then, faggot?.
>>533456437when accidents happen, which is rare, it's simply because people don't know how to install them, just like with any other electrical device.
>>533446312Hot water absolutely is used to disinfect you idiot. You could have just done a 10sec google search before replying
>>533446312Why you huehues and chinkoid retards subject westerners to your sophomorism is beyond me. We don't need your advice. You live like cockroaches
>>533443226>imagine thinking this is superior to central heating that with only one device, not only heats your entire house, but provides hot water at every outlet in your homeMaybe if you would stop living in poorfag shacks you would get it.Modern units don't even need external boilers or expensive plumbing, it's just one box you attach to a wall and handles everything as long as it gets fed gas.
>>533443950A classic
>>533443226That's a mighty fine execution chamber you got there
>>533443226The water here is barely above freezing temp in winter, often times just 1 degree Celsius. You're not getting that to be even lukewarm with your cute little jungle heater.
>>533457122These niggers don't get it.My on-demand water heater is 200,000 BTU, natural gas.You would need to run 00 gauge wire for a showerhead that does half the work my water heater does
>>533443226Huh...? Our water heater has been electric for 50 fucking years and we only just replaced it...Retard tier baiter.
>>533444488Pressure is shit I got one. Only regrets.
