Why did the US fail to conquer Germany via supermarkets, but Germany is successfully doing so with the US?
>>533451341quality and smaller profit margins
>>533451341Walmart failed because they did 0 market research in Germany/EU and tried to do things like forcing employees to smile, morning chants, and ''team building'' Germans do not have the cultural expectation of pointless humiliation rituals for their bosses, among many other things like trying to price dumb to force competitors out which is illegal here
>>533451341Which do you like better Hans, McDonalds or Burger King?
>>533451739I like Nordsee
>>533451341German soft power > US soft power
>>533451341What a stupid fucking question when you've almost certainly already watched Jules video to it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWkpyFr9e9YBut jokes aside, fuck supermarkets. Everyone here should grow as much food as they can on the side.
>>533451341Aldi fucking sucks
>>533451341midwesterner here, every aldi ive ever been to has had the produce rotting on the shelves, no selection beyond the most basic of basics, and the least efficient aisle setup imaginable.
>>533451341Most American supermarkets have food preservatives and additives which are banned in Europe. The American food supply is built for profit and long shelf life. Hence why Americans are so fat and unhealthy. American supermarkets would make no profits in the EU because no one would buy the American "junk food". But more and more aware people like eating healthy whole foods without food preservatives, dye, additves and all kinds of chems in their food in America. Why hope is that RFK bans all that shit and we finally get to eat healthy like Europeans.
>>533451918Based Fischbrotchen enjoyer.
>>533452045If it sucks, why do your fellow ameriburgers love it so much?
>>533451341Nobody wants to buy american anything. >>533452180That will be down to the nigger employers and methed out whites I assume. Aldi staff work like robots restocking in other countries. I don't even like aldi, but if they've got rotting produce, its down to store management and staff.
75% of the shelf space of a typical American grocery store is wasted on corporate goyslop. Their intention, quite literally, is to waste as much space as possible to ensure competitors can't get "facings" (a place on the shelf in order to offer a product for sale).For example, have you noticed they sell Bud Light in a dozen different forms SKUs (can/bottle, small/medium/large, 6-36 count, 8 oz - 20oz, etc.)? That isn't because the consumer really cares about the convenience of buying a 6 pack of 12 oz vs. a 9 pack of 8 oz or whatever. It's so they can take up all of the shelf space. That's it.When you actually look at who makes the products on the shelves, you realize any given aisle is actually 1-3 conglomerates wasting space, with some white label store brand products on the bottom shelf for people on a budget. ALDI just cuts out the corporate stuff and only sells their store brands. If someone really loves the products of Mondelez International or Pepsico, they can go to Walmart.The next time you are grocery shopping, try to keep this in mind and really think about how much "variety" there is on any given aisle, if you think about the corporations rather than the product names. Also try to notice the meaningless variations of every product from dish soap to paper towels to peanut butter.
>>533452732idk man ive been to 4 different ones in different towns, they all suck. one type of flour, one type of oil, five cuts of beef, no heirloom or interesting produce, no shallots, no leeks. just rotting avocados that are out of season, off brand snack foods, a whole aisle of garden knicknacks for some reason, the only thing they have with any level of varietyare pre-baked sugar filled snack cakes and pastries. its basically the same price point as my local grocer with the selection of a gas station.
>>533451341we conquered you with McDonalds, blue jeans, and nigger music. I was shocked how niggerized you guys are in berlin.
>>533451341Americans build these huge fucking mega stores, which are not popular in Europe and expensive to maintain. Germans build small and efficient super markets that have everything you need and can built nearly anywhere. Even directly in the middle of a city.
>>533453136>jeansThe inventor of jeans is literally from Germany kek >Hamburgers Should we tell him?
>>533453262>everything you needmaybe if the only foods you eat are tomatoes, carrots, celery, onions, potatoes, kale, beef, and chicken breasts. if you actually like cooking aldi is the last grocer id ever recommend in the states. its even worse if you like baking. all you get is all-purpose flour and vegetable oil. no bread or cake flour, no rye, no peanut or canola. im sure its good in the eu but aldi in the us is where people who live in dorm rooms shop because they dont have a kitchen beyond their air fryer.
providing free bags for your groceries? we don't do that in goymany
>>533453557is this a fucking troll post or are you just a fat retard? what more could you possible need besides "tomatoes, carrots, celery, onions, potatoes, kale, beef, and chicken breasts"
>>533453575Nothing is free you communist swine.
I'm pretty sure I saw an aldi near DC>50 stores planned in colorado specificallyBut why
>>533453678i like to cook anon. god forbid i want a turnip, radish, mustard green, mushroom, pepper, melon, pork, fish, lamb, rye bread, or herbs that aren't dried. im not trying to raise my kids into picky eaters who can only survive on dino nuggies and mashed potatoes.
>>533454111I highly doubt those aren't there in aldi
>>533453973because foreigners love that cheap shit
>>533454364US aldi is not german aldi or even euro aldi. US aldi is a bottom rung discount store with a low variety low labor business model. its the worst of the worst grocery shopping experience for americans
>>533454587>muh worst of the worst Clearly not considering ameriburgers love it so much
>>533454364they aren't, if this thread is still up when its time to grocery shop ill post picks of my local aldi. im only speaking from a midwest perspective, closest town (a little under 100,000 people) is a 40 min drive so maybe they're better in places where a good number of people actually live.
>>533454111Can buy all that in UK aldi's. If you'd said bakery, deli, fish and meat counters, then I might have agreed with you.
>>533454639its perfect for a college student or person who has no idea how to cook, but absolutely useless for anyone trying to feed their family a variety of healthy foods.
This is a very interesting thread. Thanks be to the burgervolk for your insight
>>533451341Because Aldi sucks with produce. Nothing us fresh, its all withered and pathetic looking.Do you have anymore stupid questions?
>>533454639its mostly immigrants shopping at aldi and lidl because they dont know any better and their welfare scam dollars go further. real americans prefer chains like wegmans and whole foods and harris teeter
>>533454742good for you, like ive been saying im sure they're great outside of the us, but the ones here are like a caricature of a 60s ussr grocer. you have exactly one choice of product and they're only the most basic of basics.
>>533451341how can the us compete? we make no food. Germany buys food at joke prices from spain, portugal and morocco
>>533454111what kind of asshole doesn't grow their own herbs?
>>533451918>Plant Based FischbrötchenWho is this for? I thought vegetarians are already allowed to eat fish because for some reason meat from fish somehow doesn't count as meat.
>>533455087i live in zone 3 so a lot of herbs aren't ready by the time i wanna actually cook with them in early springtime, less of a problem by the time its summer obviously.
>>533451341Most east coast grocery stores are/were owned by del haze a Belgian company. Some have been sold to a German company
>>533454907I've not been in aldi in the US, but judging by the comments there is clearly a stark difference. Firstly, store management and staff. Aldi is ran like a military operation. If you're seeing something different, that's the first red flag for how US stores are being run. I'd imagine that is a culture shock for fat lazy Americans. But if it is the complete opposite; a mess, then its a red flag, not how Aldi is ran typically. Secondly, the notion that it has a limited stock or a lack of fresh produce. Here, no deli, no fish and meat counter, no instore bakery. That might be different in Germany, but its the case here. Everything else, it has. Not unusual for people to go to aldi, solely for fresh produce, because its cheap, fresh, and they've got everything, they get stock out quickly. They also often stock stuff not available at other supermarkets. Such as alcohol from across europe, they often source things and do deals with meat and seafood. Thirdly; the notion that only immigrants shop there. That was true 25 years ago. Not anymore. Some other fag suggested people are choosing to shop at whole foods over aldi, thats never a choice any american is making lmao. I mean if Aldi US was on par with europe, I could kinda see it with fresh produce, packaged meats etc, but even then, whole foods shoppers arent shopping at aldi. In the UK M & S shoppers arent shopping in lidl etc. But anyway, shop where it makes sense. If aldi doesnt make sense, fuck them, who cares.
>>533455445>I mean if Aldi US was on par with europe, I could kinda see it with fresh produce, packaged meats etc, but even then, whole foods shoppers arent shopping at aldi. In the UK M & S shoppers arent shopping in lidl etc.us aldi advertises itself as an alternative to whole foods type places when in reality its more like a costco without bulk deals.
>>533455775The angle they might be going for is "We've got cheap fruit, veg, and meat". Obviously not a whole foods replacement, but maybe they want to lure those whole foods shoppers to nip in and source those products from them instead. You say they lack stuff. Maybe its supply chain, store management and staff, getting to know the local area. I don't know. But its nothing like whole foods, here either. Its very much fruit, veg, meat, fish, dairy, household. Fresh, and cheap. Lump it or leave it. Along with all the knock off brands they produce that are a bit hit and miss.
>>533452045>ngmiIf you're too stupid to know how to cook, then ya suppose it does
>>533451691Chat, is this real?
>>533456116>But its nothing like whole foods, here either. Its very much fruit, veg, meat, fish, dairy, household. Fresh, and cheap. Lump it or leave it. Along with all the knock off brands they produce that are a bit hit and miss.i think the issue is that niche is filled by costco/sams club in the us. those stores have everything aldi has but the quantities are much greater so you have a higher chance of finding something fresh when it comes to produce, and you pay less because everything has bulk pricing to match the consumer mindset. zoning regulations also really fuck aldi over too. the one closest to me is across the street from a target, 2 blocks away from to statewide chain grocers, and a 5 minute drive from the local co-op. if it was more like a walgreens or a super-gas station like a kwik trip where they're allowed to be closer to housing i could see it developing a useful place as the quick spot within walking distance but if im already gonna drive im going somewhere else every time.
>>533454111>>533454111>radish, mustard green, mushroom, pepper, melon, pork, fish, lamb, rye bread, or herbs that aren't driedI don't know what kind of "Aldi" you have around where you live, 2 Aldi stores I go to in my area have all that. So, you're likely lying.
>>533456781like i said earlier, im in the midwest, so im only speaking from that experience. i wouldn't be surprised if they're better in higher population areas.
>>533452006literal who?
>>533455295>live in zone 3 so a lot of herbs aren't ready by the time i wanna actually cookyou can literally grow most herbs on a window sill in your kitchen, you're just lazy.
>>533456950i do grow common ones indoors, but rosemary especially does not do well in the winter with the low light levels and the windsill is the coldest part of the house. ive tried it and it is not happy there unfortunately.
>>533452804this should be mandatory to appear in adverts
>>533456427>that niche is filledclearly it isn't retard, considering there'll almost be 3000 aldi stores by the end of 2026 in the US. for comparison, there's only 600 costco stores.
>>533456853>the midwest, zone 3well, you probably have elk meat there, which we don't have in PA.
>>533457276mostly venison actually, elk is more westerly.
>>533452045Going to Aldi's is the same thing as announcing to the world you're a Nazi.
I first started shopping at aldi in the 00's, it was always mostly empty with one member of staff there, everything was laid out on pallets and the packaging looked foreign. Now it's always busy as fuck, remodelling like to look like a high end store, and the products are clearly designed to mimick popular British brand names
Aldi stuff is full of sneed oil.Do not buy.Except if you're brown, then gorge on seed oils they're good for you.
>>533457221>aldi average area: 18-22 thousand sq ft. 3000 stores >costco average area: 146-147 thousand sq ft. 600 stores>sams club average area: 134-136 thousand sq ft. 600 stores>aldi total area: 54-66 million sq ft.>costco total area: 87-88 million sq ft.>sams club total area: 80-81 million sq ft.granted this isn't a perfect comparison, it would be more apt to compare the number of people actually attending these stores, but a "more store means more people can go there" argument falls apart when you look at the area of the stores themselves.
>>533451341>>533451567>>533451691Aldi runs on RAZOR THIN profit margins.In order to do this, they:>pay employees less>make employees work more and longer hours>have less employees>only make employees do the work and nothing else>have less stock>have more quality stock>have a product supply chain that undercuts the other store itemsAs a result, the customer gets a better deal and the store is able to expand because they operate more freely given the budget expectations.This is all at the expense of the employees who have little to no benefits and work extremely hard to keep everything running smoothly.Since American super market chains like Publix, Whole Foods, Krogers, or even Walmart value the employee more than Aldi, their ability to expand is hindered outside of the US.
>>533451341The u.s sets the price they want for their products via corpo greed. This just proves the average Amerimutt is severely improvised kek
>>533457990Grim
>>533457865The American cattle are truly a treasure for global companies, they get no rights, you can treat them like slaves and they won't complain, I hope one day, I too can become an American master.
>>533453529>germanI thought jeans were a french/italian invention
>>533457856>muh areasmartest ameriburger, next thing you tell me is there's teleportation devices in each costco
>>533451341aldi is vastly inferior to Grocery Outlet.
>>533451341the supermarket is an american invention>>533453529both american inventions, everyone in america is 'from somewhere', we accumulate those who enjoy freedoms
>>533457340Elk steak is one of my fav meats in the entire world. We just have venison here in FL, but anytime I get to visit my family out west I always make them cook us Elk
>>533460184nigger it literally takes 2 seconds to google where the hamburger comes from
>>533460678the hamburger was invented in america.The form of ground beef used was known as 'hamburg style', a patty of such meat was once called a hamburger. Note that ground beef itself was not invented in hamburg it was just associated with it.Putting it on bread was invented in america.During the industrial revolution german immigrants sold street food, patties of hamburg style ground beef, held in paper. These papers littered the street. One such immigrant realized he could package it in bread making a sandwich, and the hamburger was invented.Its american street food.
>>533453529We claim the bread on either side of the "Hamburg steak" lol
>>533459997Denim is "de Nimes" -- cheap workman's cloth popularized supposedly during the "California Gold Rush." But, history is fake and gay, so take it with a grain of kosher salt.
>>533460148I love grocery outlet but it's one of those stores that buys overstock or out of season goods, maybe the occasional printing error etc. They can only have prices that low because other stores exist.
>>533460872>adds 1 thing>we invented it nowlol
>>533461473We also invented pepperoni pizza. Sometimes adding one thing is enough lol
>>533451691>other things like trying to price dumb to force competitors outso consumers should get raped by high prices? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAEuros are so cucked
>>533457865No aldi pays pretty well actually i know this because i saw a job ad for them the other day. Im not sure anything you said here is correft
>>533451341Costco has a couple of stores in swedistan for some reason. If its profittable is anyones guess.
>>533461473What is a hamburger? What comes to mind?That is the thing invented in america.If you think pizza also always has cheese on it you are thinking of the american standardized pizza. Cheese is optional in Italian pizza.Everything is just a recombination of other things that came before it. What counts is the mental imprint on your mind when a specific thing is mentioned
>>533461654Theyre little slave cucks>what do mean i have to pay LESS?!??!They just want something to whine about
>>533451341Aldi was designed as a supermarket for Europoors. USA is becoming poorer so it makes sense that Aldi is having success here.
>>533451341Aldi products are shit quality and don’t make up for the price. Any veggies you buy look like ass in the next 24 hours Hispanic supermarkets have the best produce and air chilled meats at the best price.
>>533455223Vegetarians swear off everything that involves killing animals, and that includes fish. They're usually fine with dairy and eggs. Pescatarians are vegetarians who make an exception for fish. Many Christians consciously become pescatarians during lent.
>>533461711Pizza does not always have cheese in it no. We have actual Italians here
>>533451739Burger King is inedible in Germany. Just don’t, it’s not food.Why? Their kitchens don’t have industrial dishwashers.They wash everything by hand. If you wash stuff by hand, you can’t go over 50°C as you would burn yourself. To kill germs, you need over 70°C.Burger King has containers for mayo and raw meat. In the past 20 years, i’ve ate there twice. Twice did i get the shits hours later.McD is slob.
>>533461654>>533461767A price dumb is a temporary thing to force competitors out, become a monopoly and then charge the prices sky high. You're both missing a frontal lobe
>>533461473It was an American called Fletcher Davis that invented them. Minced beef obviously existed in the ancient world, though a German did invent the modern meat grinding device.
>>533452804>having lots of variants to take up shelf spacedamnand I imagine budlight etc. add requirements to stock all their variants into some of their contracts
>>533460872>Putting it on bread was invented in america.Literally wrong, lying amerimutt. Food spots in Hamburg were putting the meat into bread because it was inconvenient to eat hot. GERMAN immigrants then imported this practice into the us with some condiments and other ingredients on top which then mutated into the modern hamburger
Their angus is edibleI rarely buy more since it’s bleak
>>533461955>A price dumb is a temporary thing to force competitors outpredatory pricing is a myth.it hurts the firm doing it much more than the firm they are competing with100% of the time it's the competitor of a firm crying that their competition managed to lower prices lower than themand you fell for it because you're a europoor retard that loves the government>become a monopolyliterally never happened>You're both missing a frontal lobeyou're a cuck that loves high prices
>>533461702I got an ad in the mailbox some year ago and haven't heard of them since. Going to it by car takes as long as walking to the main competitors and Lidl.
>>533453973probably better to grow state by state so you only have to invest in aldi logistics for one state rather than the entire country4 years later they recoup the investment and repeat it again I assume
>>533461473isn't that how many inventions are? you combine public knowledge stuff and add one extra piece (optional) to succeed at making something that 20 people before you failed because public knowledge and available products weren't advanced enoughsteam engines were limited by metallurgy (though i suppose it was clever of Newcomen to use smaller pressures)
>>533457865>>only make employees do the work and nothing elsekek. the american mind can't comprehend.
>>533461684probably not. isn't it true that german discounters allow cashiers to sit and american ones don't?
Because the U.S business strategies to undermine competition such as abusing price discrimination is actually illegal and enforced in Germany. Whereas they get away with it in the States. They literally can't survive selling in an honest way.
>>533462350pepsi literally doesn't allow anyone to price their products lower than walmart, fake libertarian
All aldi needs to do is tell people they don't do dynamic pricing and frame it like walmart if robbing them (walmart is robbing them)
>>533463514>Because the U.S business strategies to undermine competition such as abusing price discrimination is actually illegal and enforced in Germany.Because germans are cucked retards that enjoy paying high prices>>533463563this is bad why?pepsi's pricing model makes sense to them because walmart makes a lot of sales for them
