Why are so many houses and buildings made out of wood ?Why can't we use stone or at least brick more?
Speak for yourself, Amerimutt.
Cheaper and easier./thread
>>533456408If stone and brick are better why dont you build a few to prove their pros and cons vs wood houses?
>>533456408Amerimutt thread
>>533456408Brick looks hideous wood+stucco on the outside mogs those poverty builds
You can, but using stone basically triples your construction costs, and you have to hire actual masons rather than just any mexican outside home depot.Brick I think also calls for specialized architectural plans since it can collapse in strange ways and you have to build around that. Plus it requires maintenance sooner than stone and more expensive than wood/drywall.
>>533456408That looks comfy.
Bump limit, here we come!
>>533456408Wood is more plentiful, quick to assemble, easier to transport...and so is the less expansive choice.
Wood is actually pretty good. It's plasterboard that's the issue.
>>533456408Stone houses used to be common, but they all eventually collapse, and tend to crush whoever is inside them.
>>533456408>>533456447You jamboy shills infighting? Been a lot of that since Iran didn't pan out the way you were all hoping. Now you've got loose cannon renegade poos "jamming" up your pathetic shill campaign. Don't worry. Big daddy America will make sure the jam still flows for you.
> cheaper> easier to maintain> easier to add modern amenities (electrical, vents, insulation, etc.)> more widely available (many places in the U.S. would have to have stone imported due to lack of good local quarries)> less dangerous in case of natural disaster > less severe damage in case of structural shifting > can be erected relatively quickly by small number of builders (1 man can clear a grove, source all his lumber, and build 90% of a house but that’s not so either stone there are few people who can mine a quarry, cut stone, and do masonry by themselves) There are a lot of benefits to using wood frame houses. Unfortunately true wood log cabins exclude about half of them.
>>533456408A long cabin isnt the best example. Most americans are living in cardboard and plywood
>>533457031>but they all eventually collapseIf they collapse that's only after the weakest link has given way, which would be the roof (structure made of wood)
>>533456408because wood rots away over time. i don't want archaeologists from the year 5000 to know what my house looks like, it's an invasion of privacy
>>533456524It’s kinda crazy how people don’t immediately and obviously grasp how much more difficult building with brick and stone is. How will you get the materials? Who will cut and dry it? Who will be skilled enough in masonry to lay it? How will you leave space for electrical, plumbing, and insulation? The list just goes on and on. Like it should be obvious why wood is the default building material worldwide.
cheapereasier to modify and expandcheaper and easier to replace after tornados/earthquakes, which destroy both
>>533457311>worldwide3rd world wide
>>533456408woodNothing wrong with it when done well.
>>533456408It's cheap and easy to refine.
>>533457174This is such a stupid meme because the wood framing in theory is no different than any traditional timber frame English house and the plywood used in the walls is just one layer among many. The house has interior dry wall, maybe rock wool insulation, exterior siding, maybe even a brick or stone facade. You guys want to pretend like we’re living in plywood houses but you’re just cherry picking one very early stage of the building process before all the other layers get added. By the way, you do know all those beautiful English buildings with the stucco-like siding are all completely rotted and filled with mold inside right? Your houses are literally permanently rotten inside.
>>533457031My house was built mid 18th century. Still up while nearby houses (from 10 to 50 years ago) have problems with shrinkage/swelling of clayey soil. It was just built better before.
>>533456408Because they are more likely to catch a fire.A great way to destroy evidence or do insurance fraud.Also funny americucks use the cheap argument. They accept they are chink coded.
>>533457402No, retard. The default building material in the entire world through all of history was wood. Europe has more stone and brick houses than elsewhere for 3 simple reasons: 1) lots of quality stone quarries 2) near total lack of natural disaster or hard weather 3) very recent cultural high point. Ancient India was once filled with stone buildings. They’re all gone because it was a long time ago and the civilization is long dead. One day all those stone houses in Europe will be gone too.
>>533457311Its not that hard.The only reason people don't use it is because the people that own the quarries have a monopoly.Wood is made from carbon in the atmosphere restructured into planks. Stone is made from other materials. Next time your around a granite countertop get out a Geiger counter and check how much radiation is coming off of it.
>>533456408Where I'm from, the soil is great for growing, but awful for building due to the high content of clay. Foundation repair is a big business here, because the soil shrinks when dry and expands when wet, causing homes to sink. It's only made worse by the huge swings in precipitation. Brick and stone houses would only sink even faster.
>>533456408Wood is cheap and the supply of wood and wood products like paper is effectively infinite in the USA. Recycling paper is optional (ALWAYS RECYCLE ALUMINUM IF YOU CAN - cast iron is the best shit to cook with, don't even clean that bitch).Stone is a bitch to haul and build with, but tearing it down? FUCK. And to put in new plumbing/hvac/wiring in a stone building you have to tear it down. The modus operandi with American buildings is that they're either historical monuments or totally disposable. Your modern house it built to last what? 20 years? Then it needs extensive retrofitting by design, or becomes a tear-down. That's not building generational wealth in my opinion.There's buildings with illustriously carved ceilings that get the popcorn shit because someone wants a wire somewhere (I have a relevant picture somewhere). Why not treasure zero-tech space for what it is? Have non-wifi buildings like non-smoking buildings, have a Faraday-cage building as a unique thing to experience.
>>533457507It should go without saying that hardy materials like brick and stone will outlast less hardy materials like wood if the craftsmanship is quality and it’s not being eroded by like weather, water, shifting earth but those last 2 points: craftsmanship and lack of environment pressures are pretty key. We simply cannot have stone houses in much of the United States because we don’t have as long a history of craftsmanship and the land and climate don’t permit it. Even in states like Pennsylvania which are free from tornados, tsunamis, etc. the ground is filled with brittle limestone, underground springs, clay, and uneven terrain. You can build a stone cottage on a lot of these sites but it will be practically collapsing within a century. You guys don’t have this problem as much. You’re totally right that new houses are built like shit though. Cheap materials, cheap craftsmanship, the builders don’t care. Total dog shit.
>>533457526>was woodYeah was, you said is in your previous post. But the civilized world has moved on from these barbaric practices. We live in actual buildings now, not in windy garden sheds.
>>533457632You’re retarded. Quarry miners sell the stone. They don’t give a fuck if you’re a home builder or a whatever. As long as you buy at their price, they don’t care. We simply do not have good quarries, good land, good weather, or good craftsmanship for this stuff, nor is it practical given modern technologies. You ever try fishing romex wire or fixing a pipe routed through stone?
It depends on which jew is going to profitthe wood jew or the concrete jew.
>>533456408wood construction has a long history in america due to our abundant forests and settler/colonial history.
>>533456408brick and stone can be nice in artistic architectural projects but in general housing they are a ghetto indicator
>>533457311You get the materials to the site just like you do with wood.You either plan ahead or install plumbing/electrical after its built. Brick is soft and easy to drill paths into. Then you easily cover it back up with cementWood is a terrible building material. Long-term it literally rots away. Increases mold growth and air quality issues. Is not durable against strong winds. The list goes on.Build a house properly with reinforced concrete foundation and brick walls - it can last 100+ years without any major structural rework neededAmericans are accustomed to thinking it's the standard building material simply because there are fucking trees everywhere in North America. Imagine being 500,000+ for wood frames and a shoddy foundation.
>>533457780First of all, we are civilization itself. Europe is a fucking museum. Second, it’s simply a matter of practically. You have about 1/10th the hurdles to building at scale with stone as we do. If we didn’t have these hurdles we’d do it more, way more than you would. You idiots live in houses built centuries ago and think you’re expert builders lmao. It’s retarded.
>>533456408Infinite (almost) renewable resource.
>>533457826No you don’t dumbass. Hardwood forests are everywhere in the U.S. and a single man can clear timber and use it in a house. How the fuck is one man going to dig a quarry and source all the stone? What you’re saying is fucking retarded. You have to pay a premium to import the materials and source an entire crew or company to do it and you want to know why it’s not as common? C’mon.
>>533457526>One day all those stone houses in Europe will be gone too.Not really, what they don't tell you is that in Europe most of the stone buildings are there because their foundations would remain after fires. You find the most stine houses on the border where war was common. They would leave their houses and eventually come back after the war and build on the same stone foundation. Thats why you see alot of old stine house that only have their first fool outer walls made of stone. It's simply there as a form of stake in the ground to prove habitation after the war. Similar to how Palestinians occupy dwellings and claim that they've lived there for hundreds of years. When they've only returned in the last year.
>>533457858>it’s simply a matter of practicallyOkay buddy don't get overexcited I get it, so you're poor nothing to be ashamed of.
>>533456408Wood is cheap, strong, consistent, and renewable. What's the issue?
>>533456408Real wood would be an upgrade over what modern buildings are using.
i post houses
fear the 4chan pass
>>533457970>What's the issue?- fire makes your home a torch- water rots your house away- a little wind collapses the whole thing like a house of cards
I can understand the principles behind this>muh kneeeeeswhat are you, fat?
>>533457794Most of the good quarries are held by the federal government in nature preserves. We have plenty of good stone. Their are old quarries all around the united states that were shutdown during the early 20th century because of environmental concerns. Its not a matter of resources its a matter of rich people not giving a fuck about what the common man builds his slave quarters from.Give aan a stone and he'll shelter himself for a millenia, give a man a plank and him and his children will be begging for more in a week.
people in earthquake zones exist. rock walls are unstable
>>533458126Yuropoors experience 0 (ZERO) forms of extreme weather in terms of wind, storms, earthquakes, or temperature. They don't even own the house they live in.And they still have the audacity to say nonsense like this that they're wholly ignorant on.
>>533458238Industries are so standardized. If you live in a tornado zone you're much better off with a stone house but you get wood instead because wood is cheaper.Damn I want a tower. Clock tower, bell tower, both.
>>533457942Foundations get eroded by water and shifting soils dummy. Besides, you can’t live in a foundation alone. Europe is already filled with collapsed or abandoned stone buildings. These idea that they’re just going to remain forever these nice little houses is a fucking fantasy. All materials degrade and erode over time to a point where even continuous maintenance is at best impractical.
>>533457794>You ever try fishing romex wire or fixing a pipe routed through stone?It just works. Let me tell you this shit is old. Thats why they don't want you to have it, because it works.
>>533458439See>>533458483
>>533457959No you Europeans are retarded. I’m actually tired of speaking to you pseuds. You guys imagine you’re really smart and educated but you’re actually all fucking idiots. There isn’t a single comparative, general, or universal topic any of you are really well studied in. An entire continent of moralizing pseuds living in a museum bragging about it. Just unbearable.
>>533456408Politics?
>You SCHTEWPID seppos don't bild propah 'omes of rock an stone! They're not bilt to lahst!Posted from a steel apartment constructed in 1985
>>533458218Dude please shut the fuck up. I can drive down to my local quarry right now and buy all the stone I want at fair market price. Literally anyone can. They do not give a fuck about you enough to exclude you from the market.
>>533458483>>533458550> why don’t Americans live in stone henge and gobleki tepi?
>>533458483I read about old Texas before the USA conquered it. A massive brickyard was the city, with no windows or doors. The Catholics then only had massive bell-towers that rang for any reason, any marriage, any holidays, they had massive bells forged or shipped at great expense in their churches. Those must have been a great joy to the Catholics but antagonized the US American warriors, who complained of them ringing constantly. They called the people wretches too, likely accurate.Those stucco houses are tornado tough though, and sound resistant. Go figure.
>>533458616In 2025 only about half of all homes built in the UK used solid materials (masonry, brick, block, etc.). They almost never even use stone for structural walls. It’s just cladding.
>>533458672Ahh, Gobleki Tepi. What a sight! I think it's a likely spot for where Noah resided. The skulls, reliefs, and tradition of domesticated wine around the area would all attest. The climate of the area changed from fertile wetness to an arid climate, the feeling of betrayal believers must have felt may have led to the new tradition. They abandoned the mystery drink and instead just started throwing garbage into that pit.
>>533458672They did.This one is in new york. There all over the states from the east coast to the west coast. They just don't want people to know.>>533458712Exactly. Look at the ruins under mexico city.
>>533458960Pic rel.
>>533458037like this
>>533458058super comfy autistic fren clubhouse. no non frens allowed
>>533458821Nah, gobekli was definitely a warlords throne. Some real Conan the barbarian type shit. Ever seen the movie beast master? https://youtube.com/watch?v=Fg6JGN6R8a8&
Let Warlord Kanta tell you about the Fisher King. Whether it was the Green Man, Osiris, or the Canaanite god Aleyan-Baal, he was "wounded in the thigh" (castrated) and his land became barren.>"some of the early legends of Genesis, are in reality, the disintegrated mythoi of the Canaanite fertility rituals.">Noah (or orginally Nakhom), playing the part of Aleyan-Baal, the Ras Shamrah counterpart of Adonis-Tammuz, was castrated by Ham, and that in consequence of this act a drought ensued>[Noah's] son, as his potential sexual rival, broke a taboo which resulted in the land being broken by drought>... But the people rejoiced for they saw in the waters a promise of future fertility. They crowned Aleyan-Baal with vine leaves ...>This wounding or castration, as Albright points out, symbolized the reaping of the grain which was cut just below the ear...>The castration of Osiris, a hero closely related to Aleyan-Baal, plays a large part in this story; the birth of Horus and his resurrection is given as proof of the survival of his dismembered body. > - Eleanor Follansbee, "Comparative Semitic Mythology"Any irony exists that the worship of Tammuz would later be a desecration of a temple in some Old Testament book. Somehow this legend was exported to Britain as the Arthurian legend of the Fisher King without any apparent interaction with Christendom whatsoever.pic unrelated, still a house
>>533460002Quite the story.https://youtu.be/s-3D07Xdw8U?
>>533459318A fucking hole in the ground is indefensible (let me tell you about the ark) but as a temple it likely served the Proto-Indo-Europeans that invented the wheel, horseback riding, and in my opinion functional grammar. The only other extant evidence for ANY European languages is Basque (a case exists for it being Hamitic in origin, along with Pictish substrate). The Egyptian chronology is still the only thorn in this whole "language was invented with the first story-tellers/priests in the Bible" theory I have cooking. I still need decades of forrnal experience to publish such topics officially. Language proper may have been reserved for the Egyptian priestly class. One crackpot - Chan Thomas, "Adam and Eve Story" thinks that chief priest Aaron learned third-hand from Egyptian priests through untrained garbled heiroglyphs, and that's the origin of Genesis. I would discredit that now but I like the gumption.The Turks love to meme that they're the original heirs of civilization or something like that, but there's something to it. David Rohl is most eminent relevant scholar of our time, and he thinks Eden was Armenia. The four rivers flow out of it, including the Tigris-Euphrates.I suspect that like the Turkish people, I've heard they have the finest coffee and tobacco. I'm still missing that webm of the guy in the Turkish flag diving onto people down the stairs, that one was awesome.
I was talking shit about the Bible way earlier but I think I like the book of Jonah, that was funny>GOD FOR YOU ARE LONG OF NOSTRILAnyway if you're stacking cash, build a real house, build something fucking crazy. I need higher ceilings.
>>533457826>meme flag>retard level takes Why do European banks hate wood so much though?
I think the original speakers of ANY language were basically a secret society hanging out with someone comparatively hyper-intelligent. Only they could convey the idea of "let's meet at this place in this time" in a spoken way. Everyone else must have been grunting only nouns/names for objects and people. I wrote some reconstructive literature on the topic (as I have been trained) but the religious implications of it are absolutely savage. Imagine being the only person that could speak among the neanderthal beastman thing-grunters. Must have been shit when only a few intelligent people could try conveying any reasoning at all.Man I'm off-topic
>>533456408Because mutts like to employ illiterate immigrants or people who flunked out of highschool to build their houses.
I'm thinking about writing a blog again, "the adventure of Rat-man," told from a strictly Japhetic point of view.
>>533457934boss baby syndrome
>>533456408unironically /pol/ needs to take the dwarfpill
>>533460856>A fucking hole in the ground is indefensibleThe best defense is a good offense.As far as written language that most assuredly goes to the Egyptians in tye western sphere. The east Asians have their own thing. The Hindus developed alongside the Egyptians like the "Turks" and Aramaics. Sooner rather than later like the Greeks, Roman's and Iberians. Basque is most certain Turkic in nature but the same could be said for finnish and Hungarian. So old is it even right to call it Turkish and not scythian or something else?Eden is a misnomer as at the time of writing the relevant place of "eden" was unimportant. Eden is a stand in for man's journey out of nature and into self consciousness. taking responsibility farther than instinct and desire. The stories of ancients were testament to his inability to remove himself from natural instincts and take on the noble pursuit. A problem the ancients sought to solve with the old and new testament, just like the priests of Egypt tried to with their mythos and temples. A necessity as seen by the rulers of Pharoah, David, Romulus, and Ceasar. Still removed from the gnostics by "civilization".
>>533461903My theory is that the long-lived dwarfs and the elves alike wielded power distinct from human-kind. The dwarves were stronger in fire and earth, and used a much more dangerous power, eventually all but dying out. The elves were stronger in air and water and still persist in a single enclave in middle Earth, "the Sea," midgard. We live on lower earth, "the Land," dirt, niflheim, which is "Hell" or "Cellar."
>>533456408europeans have used a lot of stone because they cut down all their trees. america still has trees so we use them.
>>533462077My best theory for Basque is that it's "Afro-Semitic" which is the modern term for this language progenitor. If you dig into "The Horse, The Wheel, and Language" it suspects the truth that PIE was related to Afro-Asiatic or Afro-Semitic, the crux that Joseph Greenberg was working towards in his insane probably faith-first methodology.The Amorites were close descendants of Noah, coming from the same area and Amorite language and lore is the common descendant of ancient Israelite and Sumerian (Sumerian is a fluke language but became something like Latin for all the later Babylonian cultures that followed in their Tigris-Euphrates area) alike. I said elsewhere that I take the Bible at face value and that presents very few problems with Rohl's new chronology.
>>533458333wonder what it costs to have this painted
>>533457826>Brick is soft and easy to drill paths into. Then you easily cover it back up with cementYa sure dude.I want to see you wire a brick house to modern standards.
>>533458333alot
>>533462533I want my eyrie.
>>533462619>I want to see you wire a brick house to modern standards.Amd when will those standards be obsolete?
>>533456408Wood building is uncommon in western Europe (aside from specific mountainous regions where there are still loads of chalets) and is seen as a luxury because only the very high end wood building is still practiced.
>>533462747There's three houses for sale near me, ranging from I would guess $300,000 to $700,000. I like a ~$479,000 option.My house "doubled in value" since I bought it but most of that alleged value I've sun into interior repairs and it still needs lots of work. I break even without a job, going to my private university. I can afford having some retard job but I just want something that lends me a modicum of respect. Who would hire Warlord Kanta????? My private-sector skills are basically either overqualified or unemployable.
>>533456408I built mine out of reinforced concrete, the cladding has a layer of Faraday cage under the metal siding, and 2 inch metal shutters inside. Come at me apocalypse.
>>533462859Exactly the point.Then what?I can strip all the drywall out of a 2,500 sq/ft house and reinstall new drywall for about $1,200.And what happens when you have a burst water pipe INSIDE a brick wall (somewhere). Good luck with that.
>>533458288>Yuropoors experience 0 (ZERO) forms of extreme weather in terms of wind, storms, earthquakes, or temperatureWe get hail multiple times a year, heavy snow that breaks trees, we just had 100mph gusts of wind, 40 degree summers, -10 in the winter... we get the lot.
>>533463522I feel like repairing a few patches of drywall in my house would costs me thousands, but I repair the plumbing without fixing the drywall because home repairs are a bitch and my life is basically all triage. Money triage, attention triage, and 4chan is unfortunately a social outlet of necessity.
>>533456408Expensive and time consuming. It can be done for free obviously but then it's cheaper and even longer to get built. The finished results are spectacular though
>>533456408That's actually a nice and comfy wooden house.Wooden frames with OSB and drywall are shitty, but cheap.
>>533456408Look at it from the perspective of the different types of builder.>Huge Developer: I want the most money. Smallest lots, no room for street parking, make an hoa so they have to tip me forever, i'll use the cheapest beaners i can to build it, i'll use a minimum viable design engineered to last warranty + 1day.>Cheapers Beaners he can find: I want the most money. I'm gonna cut ever corner i can, use empty beer bottles as insulation, and im gonna steal as many building materials from the site as i can get away with>Custom Home Builder: I want the most money. I'm gonna convince my client to build ICF instead of using formwork even though it will be weaker and full of voids under all the windows and the foam will offgas into the home because we didn't use rockwool instead.Basically youre getting ripped off unless you do it yourself or spec out exactly what you want. And you're gonna be ready to pay.
>>533462938yeah in west true because you cut all your forests down a long time agomeanwhile here in north we have more wood than we know what to do with so a shit ton of construction is made of woodalthough nowadays modern hi-tech building materials like this aerated pressed stone thing of pic rel are becoming more popular because they are better than wood in basically every way except aesthetics
>>533465839Home development suffers from the same problem as cars. Why would you ever fucking manufacture a cheaper car? Who else is making cheap cars/homes? NOBODY.>I COULD build a smaller home at a slightly cheaper cost>OR I could build a slightly larger home at a MUCH GREATER costthis comes from the square-cube law. Two walls can expand a home drastically with very little comparative cost. This is why you can't really find a two-door car anymore, and why the "basic model" of a car is the price point that's advertised (STARTING FROM) but never what you actually can negotiate in a stealership.
The best house is reinforced concrete walls with rockwool insulation on the outside and some type of brick or stone veneer over that. Then you have steel framing for the floor and attic joists and unistrut for the rest of the framing. Double lock standing seam copper roof.
>>533456408also regular stone and brick are shit anywhere where is either hot or cold because its insulating properties are shitmaterials like wood which have excellent insulating properties keep you cooler in hot places and keep you warmer in cool placesbut as pointed out in >>533465864 nowadays there are modern materials that have even better insulating properties than wood does, and on top of that it lasts forever and isnt susceptible to termites and other shit that organic material is, so the walls and floors are increasingly made out of such materialswood is still pretty so often its used to clad the outer walls even if its actually modern brick material inside itand of course things like decks and terraces etc often are made of wood still because of its pleasing aesthetics and its nice to walk on and easy to work withand depending on region it can be relatively cheap too, although the more south you go with less forest wood quickly becomes a luxury that is less used because its expensive
>>533466070>Home development suffers from the same problem as cars.Not at all, there are entirely different considerations for cars like fuel consumption increases by weight
>>533466254waht?
>>533458218Man have you ever seen old scagliola from the renaissance thats totally artificial, you cant even find those color combinations in nature
>>533456408Wood is cheaper and more easily extracted than quarrying?
>>533457826>Wood is a terrible building material. Long-term it literally rots away. Increases mold growth and air quality issuesI can go poke my head into the attic and show you my completely unrotted 50 year old trusses. Stfu faggot.
I see prefabricated wooden houses being shilled a lot, at the first glance it seems cheaper, easier, faster, better than the old fashioned way, which makes me feel that it's a scam. I am not well versed enough to know better, however.
>>533456408Wood is cheaper and nicer for the most parts.
>>533456408America has a shitload of timber
>>533467014Hi bob
>>533456408
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>>533467783disgusting
>>533467014No nonsense dogshit
>>533467014It depends,In USA they don't make the prefab houses out of actual wood but rather this MDF wood chip glue mix bullshit which is absolutely dogshitBut here you can buy prefab houses that are actually quality made and the cheapness simply comes from being able to prefab modules in a factory which is faster and more efficientThe most you win is in labor that is expensive, prefabs are much faster than the old wayIdk what is the situation anywhere else but it could be either, a scam or a legit business
>>533468163and before someone says there probably are legitimate prefab businesses in USA too but a lot and probably majority of new single family builds going up is spics putting up that cheap MDF shit and the jew or the collection of jews (blackrock, etc) that owns the land and subdivided it and made these houses still sell it an exorbitant cost making a shit ton of money in the processin fact the jews have figured out a way to twist even more money out of this, they not only use nonwhite workers to make bad quality work using shit quality materials but they actually make entire neighborhoods like this and then dont even sell them but they are "build to rent". meaning the jews keep them forever and suck lifeblood out of the people moving in themthese kind of jew-owned rent neighborhoods are popping up all over the place
>>533458821>>533458712>>533458333No ones building any of this shit when they talk about stone or wood
>>533468393Im tired its a weird day
>>533468390so its not that im saying that "americans are stupid and cant build good houses" there most certainly are skilled White carpenters there that could do good work and use quality materialsbut its just that jews have captured everything there so "build to rent" cheap MDF houses with spic workforce who dont give a shit about their workmanship while housing is still extremely expensive is the dealthe funny thing is that it will never get better, only worse, as long as jews breathe
>>533468393If you're scrooge mcDuck rich you can build what you fucking want. Shitter people get either cookie cutter or McMansion, not to personal specs but to per profit standard which is dystopian.
>>533468804Make one nice apartment built like a palace with good soundproofing its better than all of this
>>533456524we're fracking shale rock everywhere so now even North Dakota gets 5.0 quakes wood flexes, stones collapse
>>533456524go build in steel
>>533456408A better question to ask is why do history teachers and so called experts imply that the pyramids and other such ancient structures were built of stone because the people were primitive? When the opposite is true. Building with stone is extremely difficult and is expensive, but those buildings will last forever.
>>533469966are you an expert?
>>533469669Home value is literally location. IS IT CLOSE TO WORK WHERE YOU SPEND MOST OF YOUR WAKING HOURS? That's question #1. Question #2 is DO YOU LIKE THE SPACE WHERE YOU REST/NOT WORK?Urbanites love to party downtown but me? I have sharpened senses and more. My fucking chicken coop is a bit too close to my neighbors. The solution I want involves nothing but humble landscaping but if I move from university to work my income skyrockets to the point where I could afford more options.Bushes are exterior soundwalls. Interior hangings are likewise soundwalls. Sound is so fucky, it never feels 100%. At some level you have to just tune shit out and read a book.
>>533468532white faggots built this shit first in the 1950s
>>533470241MDF didn't even exist in 1950s you retard, besides the country was 90% White back then, rest niggers, and no other ethnicities, and niggers weren't building any houses Whites did so the workmanship was way better. That's why in USA you're often better off buying an old house as long as the owner maintained it well than buying a new one
>>533456408You use the material available in your area.
>>533470443compare vidrel to this video>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACG33EYoYLUthe outcome is not just reliant on quality of the materials but the quality of the craftsmenlike the worst isn't even some spic being lazy and not doing the work properly but some nigger like vidrel who is too stupid to even understand what he is doing wrong
>>533470779and it seems from these videos that in the modern american brown worksite there is absolutely no peer pressurelike if some spic does halfass work or nigger is stupid, none of the other workers call them out on it they're also lazy and stupid and just want to get paid dont care about their quality of workwith White people if you did dumb shit like nailing a screw you'd be made fun of and never hear the end of it, plus your mistake would be fixed and others would be mad at you for wasting everyones time. instead of just leaving it all fucked and nobody saying anythingi've come to the conclusion that nonwhite races fundamentally have the inability of caring about things whether their work will cause problems for someone else in the future, they only care about themselves and the nowthe problem of course is that the White caring have been subverted by the jewry to abuse it to brainwash some Whites into thinking that we must and can save browns by bringing them into White nations
>>533471157>foreman says "just get it done TODAY">spics can never afford the house and don't care>spics just rush job>$600,000 starter home needs $200,000 of repairs at buyIf you buy new you can either get a home inspector and contest the builder, or you can live in your enormous slop shanty as the mold moisture creeps in.
