No negotiations at all in Islamabad. Shitkoff and Jarhead can go back again. L.O.S.E.R.S
I'm not feeling so good, stone age sisters.
Iran confirmed edging
there never was any negotiationstrump just says shit
>>533459678They've evacuated hotels, bro. JD Vishu's security couldn't be organised in time. Islamabad is gridlocked. Roads have been closed. Traffic diverted.
>>533459393Its presumptive for Iran to even negotiate with these savage dogfucking babyeating terrorists in first place
>>533459836That's exactly what they said behind closed doors
>>533459393
This war was a pandora's box being opened and Iran was given free reign to fuck around with the U.S. and the world endlessly. They're not going to allow things to go back as they were because their goals is to disrupt the West in the first place and get what they want. The regime isn't going to change at this rate and they will not return trade back to normal without real force and change.
Please focus on hitting Israel. Can you send a couple of missiles to what is left of Ben Gurion Airport? We know its destroyed. Its for any rebuilding efforts. Kick the kike puppy as its trying to get up.
>>533459393why would the Iranians "negotiate" with the US vassal state when our Israeli masters are calling the shots and clearly are not interested in negotiating?
>>533459393I hope Iran strikes first this time. They are always reactive instead of pro-active.
>>533460190Then they'll have to wait until close of play Wednesday, the expiration of muh ceasefire
>>533459393Rolling for nukes
>>533459393Persia is dead.Long live Persia.
Why would Iran ever speak to the USA ever again until they have met demands ie retreat from Middle-East
>>533459393But what about her emails?
>>533460081Those Israeli desalination plants just SITTING THERE begging to be penetrated by BPH (Big Persian Hypersonics)
>>533460249>the expiration of muh ceasefirethat expired when Trump committed an act of war.
>>533460397True, but Iranians keep to a higher standard. They're not jews, or may god forgive me for uttering the word, americans.
>>533459393relax that's just posturingthey'll let WTI futures get back to $110 to remind trump what is at stake and then strike another deal. (Not gonna put my money where my mouth is tho)
>>533460021god damn you people are retarded
>>533459393smart. (((kushner))) and (((witkoff))) are obviously sabotaging peace talks.might as well just talk to netanyahu directly.
>>533459393We are witnessing the complete collapse of US global credibility in real time. It's obvious they started this without a plan.
>>533459393I heard they are sending school kids to negotiate, oh wait America bombed them oh well
Iran denies second round of Islamabad talks - IRNA The Islamic Republic News Agency has dismissed reports of a second round of peace talks with the US in the Pakistani capital Islamabad. It said excessive US demands, repeated shifts in position, contradictory statements, the continued naval blockade — which Iran calls a breach of the ceasefire — and ongoing threats have blocked progress. The broadcaster described US claims of progress as a media game, adding that under the conditions there is no prospect for productive talks.Subscribe to @SputnikInt
>>533459393>>533459477Are they still talking about the epstein files?I mean really, are they still mad about having an entire school of children bombed by the USA?Are you guys still asking about Trump murdering a 13 year old who he impregnated at 12 years old's newborn baby in a lake?
>>533459393Iran just needs to stall long enough to ensure gas prices stay high through the midterms, the House is a lost cause but at this pace the GOP could even lose the Senate despite their structural advantages. At the very least Trump is going to finish his term completely consumed by domestic politics, being raked over the coals with investigations into the Epstein coverup and the constant insider trading pump and dumps we have been seeing, if not impeachment.
It's made up nonsense. The us will attack in the next few days. I wouldn't go either. No trust, you can't deal with Trump.
may allah destroy israel
>>533459393Barron T will be pissed tomorrow, yea.
>>533459393No wonder. America has become the epitome of a bad faith actor in these negotiations. You can't do diplomacy with people like that.
Why the fuck do they even send in a bunch of literal hyper giga mega kikes to "represent" the American people?
>Trump: let us take that uranium off your hands>Trump: we promise not to nuke you with your own uranium if future attempts to get your oil go badly tooArt of le Deal, folks.
US wants unconditional surrender from Iran.
>>533460990Poo
>>533460850I don't think they seriously give a shit anymore Muslims are nuts, you do what we just did to them and they'll resist out of spite. Westerners cannot understand it, they look at things in metrics Muslims don't care about.
>>533461036Lol
please goyim, keep negotiating peacefully while we amass troops around your borders under the ceasefiresomeone in trump's camp is getting their war tactics from a civilization ii tips forum
>>533461202I don't think that tactic works quite so well when Iran has satellites and ballistic missiles
>>533459393would be so funny if they bombed the meeting space with kushner there
>>533460081>what is left of Ben Gurion Airport? We know its destroyed.I had to go all the way to Facebook to find a picture of the absolute destruction of the ben gurion airport.
MIGA movement and its disciples are in this weird position where they have 6 months left until total implosion, but any action they take now with respect to this war will only set the level of the implosion as medium scale or nuke-like, there's no chance of averting the process of implosion now. For example they can negotiate a "deal", but it will be promptly broken by you know who and oil prices will go up. On the other end they can go all out and start total draft with bussification and that will guarantee no more republicans ever get elected for the next g-d knows how many years. Iran knows this, so they just wait for the miga apparatchiks to start fleeing the ship.
>>533459393They said get fucked demons and demon worshipers. Absolutely based. Don't negotiate with pedophiles.
>>533459393morons.>>533459678President Trump tells the truth, iran lies to make him look bad and you fall for it because you're retarded.>>533460021this war was necessary. iran was about to have nuclear weapons. if iran ever builds a nuke, its not IF but WHEN they use it on Tel Aviv, at which point America has to decide whether it will stand by and watch the second holocaust happen or start an all out nuclear war with iran, which is really opening pandoras box to allow russia and china to use nukes on its enemies which we really really dont want.
>>533461202Like nonces creeping around the kindergarten.Except no pizza this time kek.
Why would anyone negotiate with burgers? They’ll just go back on their word on whim or if Israel makes a fuss.They negotiated for months with the US for a deal and then Trump just tore it up to fire rockets instead.
>>533461064Call your mom if you to poo like a big boy, little guy
>>533461110islam is a religion the west is a geographical areasingapore does not have the same national mindset as pakistan i assume you think of the "west" as christians, who have historically done and continue to do equally "nuts" things, like screeching for angels from africa to come and save donald while holding hands around the resolute desk in the oval office and encouraging "demonic pregnancies" to miscarry through prayer, an official u.s. government advisors official line on demon babies.
>>533461437amazing, its like you know English words but you don't understand how they work, like niggers with AK-47s
>>533461491You don't even have a foreskin, why should I take you seriously
>>533461319oh, the humanity! where will they park now? They'll have to walk an extra 3 meters!
>>533460081This. If they can just destroy all the airports, ports, desalination plants, and hospitals then Israel can finally be done forever
>>533460190With what? lmao you guys are delusional.
FINISH OFF THE IRGC !LETS END THIS SHITSHOW !
>>533461431Shut the fuck up kike
let the bombings commence...
>>533460759>Are you guys still asking about Trump murdering a 13 year old who he impregnated at 12 years old's newborn baby in a lake?Ummm. Did you make that last part up
Let me spoil the ending for all you retards, Iran will be at the negotiations.
>>533461431>America has to decide whether it will stand by and watch the second holocaust happen or start an all out nuclear war with iranwhy should I care if Iran nukes Tel Aviv? what does that have to do with me? what does Tel Aviv do for the average American that would justify a war with Iran?oh right you're a kiked zogbot
>>533461431>iran was about to have nuclear weapons.So what? Iran hasn't initiated a conflict with anyone in like 300 years.
>>533461992They've been funding proxy wars since 5 decades
>>533461992https://youtu.be/DMehnY6jcl8
>>533461893The only reason Iran still shows at these "negotiations" is to prove to the world that it is willing to compromise and that the mutts are violent niggers.Yep, they will show up again eventually. When they will feel like it. kek
>>533461431>OH NO NOT TEL AVIV!
>>533462102>>533462159and Israel funds proxy wars in America. why should I give a shit about Iran?
>>533461431>If iran ever builds a nuke, its not IF but WHEN they do the whole world a favor and use it on Tel Aviv.God blesses those who bless Iran.
Iran must be preparing some big stuff if they dont want to negotiate, but are still honoring the ceasefire.it's like they have some kind of ambush ready for americans. Those crafty sand niggers, no wonder jews hate them. Iranians are as crafty as them
>>533462320Do you know about operation Ajax? You shouldn't have done
>>533459393COME TO THE TABLE ABDOOLABDOOOOOOOOL, MAKE A DEAL!
>>533462246>The only reason Iran still shows at these "negotiations" is to prove to the world that it is willing to compromise and that the mutts are violent niggers.The Iranians are violent Muslim savages with a terrorist regime but it makes sense that cucked Europeans would sympathize with them after being victimized by them.
>>533459393What's the point of negotiations with jewish real estate moguls and Jeet Dicker Vance?
>>533462532why do indians shill israel so hard? you know they think of you as subhumans right? israel banned indian and african migrant workers from their bomb shelters and just leaves your kind to die to iranian bombs lmao.
>>533462526they aren't going unless the US stops their blockade
>>533462526Remind me who attacked who first you tranny.
>>533462616Shalom
>>533462668Trump pulled out Vance, so only jews left
>>533462691Ends the sentence with lmao, and he wants to know why. Fuxk off, never reply to, humbug
>>533459393>ATTEND THE FUCKING SUMMIT!
>>533462779calm down benchod just answer the damn question saar
>>533462760Even worse.
>>533462828Oh, you are just a regular shill, carry on mohammad(zbbuh)
>>533462860Basically, it showed Iran that Trump is not taking this seriously and just wants to do Israel's bidding.
>>533462918They already thought that. They were just pressured by China to do it, but now it's obvious Trump is full of shit and China will have to back Iran.
>>533462725You're an imbecile, you think the regime in Tehran isn't objectively our enemy? Literally an Islamic theocratic regime that is a self-declared enemy of the USA we should have never let them get this close to nukes. They have to pay a price for being our enemy.
>>533463000>and then one day for no reason at all iranians started hating the american government
>>533459393This is good news actually. The negotiations with Iran seem to go much better when Iran is not involved.
>>533463000They're your enemy because you deposed their government and install a puppet regime in 1953, you kike. Just stop being so jewish and people will stop being against you.
>>533463000What do you think happens when you kill Iranians or back people who do? Of course they would consider you an enemy.
>>533460021>to disrupt the West>westNo, only America and Israel, and zionists overall.
>>533462974correct, Iran had no actual expectation that Trump would keep his word or get the Jews to back down on the genocide in Lebanon. but China and Russia convinced them to come to the negotiating table as a show of good faith. now Iran will just send their oil through land routes to China and Russia while the rest of the world gets fucked due to the US blockade. eventually Europe will get sick of America's shit and end the war in Ukraine just so they can buy Russian oil as economic pressure mounts, and east asia will be forced to get cozy with China as their American allies have apparently abandoned them in favor of Israel. the multipolarists will achieve complete economic victory without having to do anything.>>533463000shalom
>>533462616Israel has done more damage to the USA than any other country on earth. It’s not even close. Iran wants to destroy Israel so that makes them okay. Pic related. It doesn’t even cover how Israel assassinated JFK or allowed 9/11 to happen even though they knew about it and chose not to warn us about it so that we’d have a pretense for more wars. I would literally choose a million Irans over one Israel.
>>533463051They say it's about the Shah, but they're lying about that. They shout "Death to America" not "Death to America and England"
>>533463051>>533463120>>533463135Literally the first thing the Islamic Republic did was overrun the American embassy and take American embassy staff as hostages. I'm sure you think it is justified though. People like you can't be reasoned with.
>>533460081Iran should just control their strikes in the arabic monarchies, but they should go balls deep in any critial infraestruture Israel could have, they should destroy everything Israel needs to exist and israelis (dogs) so surviveDessalinitation, electricity, food, logistics, everything in israel should explotde, focus on military targets aftyer making Israel unlivable
>>533463308>eventually Europe will get sick of America's shit and end the war in Ukraine just so they can buy Russian oil as economic pressure mountsThis shows very well that you don't know what you are talking about?
>>533463308Agreed about everything. I feel sorry for the Ukrainian people, but they were never going to win this.
>>533459393https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw5LrNWgWJQ
>>533463419You could be onto something here
>>533459678this
>>533463425>wtf you can't attack us after we attacked you!
>>533463120Don't bother using facts and logic with amerimutts, they are genuinely retarded and can't understand why the world hates them after all the jewish wars, regime changes, and coups that they've launched against dozens of anti-israel countries.
>>533463355Muslims are not you're friend. They'd rather be the globalist power. It's a little different than wanting a country not serving foreign interests.
>>533463355>Israel has done more damage to the USA than any other country on earth.I get that you are paranoid and hate Jews and thats fine, but this statement is objectively insane. Germany declared war on us and hundreds of thousands of Americans died fighting them in two world wars. The Soviet Union armed the Vietnamese which resulted in tens of thousands of American dead. I could go on and on, even allies like the UK fought two wars against us.
>>533459393That can only mean one thing..Iran will be getting glassed.
>>533459393B-b-but we sent our most Zionist jews to negotiate your unconditional surrender!
>>533463642seethe more leaf, liberal party fag
>>533463452the arab monarchies are israel/american puppets that should also be hit for hosting american military bases that are used as a buffer to protect israel.iran took out every single american base in the region by striking the arab monarchies in the first week of the war. it was actually pretty funny seeing the israelis panic as the invincible iron dome no longer had access to america's billion dollar radar systems giving them preemptive warning of iranian strikes.>>533463527you clearly don't pay attention to the political situation in europe right now. europeans are taking the brunt of the economic damage from America's retarded foreign policy blunders. Europeans still very much support Ukraine over Russia, but the world isn't run based on morality and Europeans are increasingly economically isolated and struggling. Given the choice of peace with Russia or rising gas prices from the strait being blockaded, they'll choose the former. the latter is just unsustainable for Europe and they have no leverage to force the Americans or Iranians to end their blockades except the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
>>533463663Correct, but jews are an even bigger enemy because they have institutional power in the west which they use to subvert our nations and cultures from within >>533463691The damage done by those pales in comparison to the demographic damage and the cultural damage wrought by jewish influence in the west. I have no doubt whatsoever that the world would be better off if Germany won WWII and saved the white race from being insidiously genocided via replacement migration inspired by Talmudic Tikkun Olam philosophy
>>533461431>nukesRetarded newfag, nukes don’t exist.
>>533459393It doesn’t matter what Trump or any one in his cabinet says , Iran stated their demands and those have not changed one item since the war started and it won’t. Trumps eternal spins ( lying ) are laughable.
>>533463120That is objectively incorrect. The british and soviets installed MRP during WWII. Mossagdeh was a piece of shit, whose inexplicable unholy alliance consisted of socialists and islamists. Iran has been a politically unstable shithole since the late 1800's. Don't pretend this isn't new.
>>533461431>tel aviv gets nuked>this is supposed to be bad
>>533463796>you clearly don't pay attention to the political situation in europe right now. europeans are taking the brunt of the economic damage from America's retarded foreign policy blunders. Europeans still very much support Ukraine over Russia, but the world isn't run based on morality and Europeans are increasingly economically isolated and struggling. Given the choice of peace with Russia or rising gas prices from the strait being blockaded, they'll choose the former. the latter is just unsustainable for Europe and they have no leverage to force the Americans or Iranians to end their blockades except the Russia-Ukraine conflict.Your theory would be sound except for the fact that the USA wants to end the Ukraine war and Europe doesn't.
>>533461431>iran lies to make him look badThe strait is closed, that isn't a lie.It has never reopened either.
>>533462900street shitting cow rapist worms away from questioning again
>>533463834Your moms farts are nukes
>>533459393oh noooo.... i guess more sandniggers are going to die then.
>>533459393That's fine. Nuke them.
>>533463747How about I take my motherfucking goddamn Alliance, chase you down in the middle of the motherfucking snow you're running. You see a bunch of us in Black cloaks running towards you. You see me in a gold cloak, big tall muscular evil ass motherfucker running at you. First I start off like this cuz I don't need my full speed to catch you. Then I see you start to speed up then I start speeding. Then I just go and I just sick my whole Alliance and they're just chasing you running at you like wolves in black.. in black capes they tackle you. Run this is you right I'm me. This is you, tackle you. grab you I call over rocks. single at him. rocks comes from behind you. I have all my Alliance cloaks ripping off your clothes your ass naked in the snow stuck like this just stuck and I hold you down. Your're like "STOP EEUHHH EUUUGGGHHH"! And I'm like "rocks"! I make the snap, rocks rips off his clothing, Flops out his BJC Junior on the fucking right ass cheek on the left. While all my Covenant cloaks hold you down and he just forcefully fucks you and chokes you and your like "EUUHH EUUUHHH EUHH" and he just chokes you busting you and just humiliate you and I command my whole cloaks to stand around you and ejaculating and bust nuts all over your frozen body while we force you to lay there and freeze in the snow, bitch ass niggas suck my dick. Thank you for that 14 Measly dollars too faggot America and Israel runs this bitch
>>533463821>The damage done by those pales in comparison to the demographic damage and the cultural damage wrought by jewish influence in the west.This is probably true and another matter, Western self-hating liberalism is disproportionately Jewish that is true, though not all.
>>533463425>be military in foreign land>your military attacks said foreign land>"wtff nooooo why are they targetting me?!?!" retard alert
>>533463940This
>>533459393more bombing it is then!
Why should Iran negotiate with terrorists?They got sneak attacked by cowards and have been defending themselves ever since
>>533463870Mohammad Mosaddegh was the democratic choice and you anglo jews coup'd him because he didn't want you to have Iran's oil.
>>533464021The IRGC says they have more and better rockets now than before 28/02.
>>533463821>because they have institutional power in the west which they use to subvert our nations and cultures from withinMuslims are working on it. They kind of deserve each other in that they hide their true intentions while pointing out how bad the other is. Still, I'd rather have a godless culture than one where we're forced to follow the rules of a foreign religion. If Muslims get their way we can expect more African Muslims that set up their own parallel societies that are hostile to ours.
>>533460607yes, Iran loves using its civilians as disposable meat
>>533461027They accurately represent the hyper giga mega kike trump administration.
>>533463949Fagmad asholeuddin, sorry I don't answer questions.
>>533463968Arabs are the sand niggers, Persians are mountainous niggers.
>>533464016>retard alertIt was an embassy. Retard alert indeed.
>>533464209Persians are proto-Europeans.
>>533463870Trump is also a piece of shit, and is allied with Zionists and Satanists. Does that make it ok for China to invade your country and do a regime change there?Amerimutts are genuinely so weird, they'll be like "it's ok to invade X country because of Y reason" while not realizing that they do shit 1000x worse than Y.
>>533464012Iran launching a terror attack every now and then is bad, but it is objectively less damaging to our countries than what jews have done with their institutional power in the west. Like I said I would accept the existence of Iran if it meant jews were destroyed. Ideally, both would get destroyed, but as westerners, we’re forced into a position where we support the jews financially because we are forced to pay taxes to Israel. Unlike Muslims, jews have their own courts, their own police systems and are basically living in a parallel system here in an America where they get to act above the law. The enemy within is a bigger priority than the enemy on the other side of the world.
>>533464122yes, they also have found a magic lamp and got infinite wishes, they'll blow up American ships using magic carpets
>>533459836Iran inviting certain death to earn those 72 virgin goats. You should join them desu.
>>533464268You better believe it, frère
>>533460280It’s so stupid. The Islamists are going to run one of the oldest countries right into the ground. Religion has no place in the modern world. Except Daoism.
>>533459477Its just as well because industrial age has been a disaster for humanity
>>533464141>Still, I'd rather have a godless culture than one where we're forced to follow the rules of a foreign religion.That’s not the choice being made. We could use Iran as pawns to help us destroy Israel and weaken the influence of Judaism in the west. Then we could get rid of the (((judeo))) in judeo-Christian and go back to just being normal Christian countries again.
>>533464328Amen
>>533459562As long as they are holding the gooncaves they can missilemaxxx all day. American Betas never stood a chance, pure Sigma energy.
>>533460021Their goal was to exist as a sovering nation until you started bombing them. Miggers should be lobotomized, theres no point to letting them have sentience anyways
>>533463926Trump wants to end the Ukraine war, USA does not; and he doesn't have the political capital to make it happen against the wishes of congress. If Trump loses in 2028 the Americans will go back to making Ukraine the top priority military conflict and they don't want it to end before that.Europe does not meaningfully benefit from the Ukraine war in any way except ideological. Ukraine has no economic or political value whether it's part of Russia or not makes no difference except if framed as an extension of the Cold War. Europeans may hate Russia for ideological reasons due to decades of Cold War indoctrination, but eventually the economic reality will outweigh ideology and they'll have to decide if they want to keep getting dragged into America's geopolitical projects just because "Russia bad" or whatever.
>>533464156so true I heard they paint bulleyes on every kids head and make em dance around
>>533459393>nooo you are so defeated iran>you must build a golden statue of me and and satanyahu>then give me all your uranium>because my daddy was rich>did you know I'm a stable genius btw
>>533461431>President Tramp tells the truthTell us more about that successful pilot rescue mission Mr Goysident.
>>533464467you say that sarcastically but they did close to it, shill-kun.
>>533459393there is zero reason to negotiate. the US has already made its decision, and the carrier strike groups are moving into the region again as we speak now.The US has come to the conclusion that the strait of hormuz is a no-win situation. there is functionally nothing the US can do about the closure THUS all messaging about the war of israeli aggression in Iran will whole-sale switch to recovering the enriched uranium, which it believes is the one sole remaining point it can achieve anything that approaches victory.to this end, israels intent is to have the US launch a total-war campaign of israeli-style collective punishment against Iran, attacking civilian infrastructure that will create conditions of widespread nationa catastrophe that will consume the Iranian governments attention and resources, creating a window where the US can enter Iran and occupy Isfahan nuclear complex, to establish an occupation zone, where it will set up an extraction operation for the enriched uranium or as trump puts it "nuclear dust" (to make it seem insignificant in the media).this is will 100% of the new messaging going forwardit will be a total saturation of the 'removal of enriched uranium' talking point, agnosium. israel and the israeli lobby in the US have wagered the future of israel itself on its recovery. the "ceasefire" in domestic israeli politics has nearly collapsed the country, and most israelies see it as the final evidence of inarguable 'defeat'. thus trump must act NOW, not 2 weeks from now when his 60 day war-powers act expires.
>>533460591>It's obvious they started this without a plan.they had a plan, israels plan>"decapitate Iranian leadership, and the whole country will instantly fall apart and the US will be able to walk right in like venezuela and take the whole place over and nobody will do SHIT!"when Iran didnt immediately descend into anarchy the moment the Ayatollah was killed, the whole war failed that instant that was the extent of their plan>'kill the Ayatollah"under the assumption that Iran was like israel or something and killing satanyahu would effectively collapse their national direction in one swoop
>>533464573well I guess we just keep repeating ourselves doomed to get the same instructions and repeat the same answers
>>533459393Based Iran
>>533464573I'm waiting for a reply do you mind hurrying the fuck up I don't have my whole fucking life fuckwit
>>533464457What prevents the end of the war is the fact that Ukraine and Russia are far apart in the negotiations, and the Europeans are reluctant. Congress couldn't stop an agreement. >Europe does not meaningfully benefit from the Ukraine war in any wayThe EU benefits from expanding, offering new markets, labor and industries.
>>533464467I always liked Assad, I'm still mad they pushed him out of power.
>>533459393what is there to negotiate? Iran gave their conditions. either accept them or not. Last time I went to a store and said I want to pay $3 for a $30 beef steak and they took the meat back and called security on me
>>533464156Iran didnt use jack-shit as a 'human shield'the jewish AI called "Wheres Daddy" that supplied the targeting information was programmed to consider the wives and children of the (((terrorists))) it designates as valid military targets. but you know that you filthy jew
>>533464907>what is there to negotiate? Iran gave their conditions. either accept them or not. THISthere is no reason for Iran to negotiateTrump setting them apocalyptic completely ludicrous terms like>unconditional surrender>complete dismantling of Iranian defense industry, no missiles, nothing that can threaten israel, must be completely defenseless as a nation>must regime change to a government israel designs, co-administered by Donald Trump and Iranthese are the terms Trump has publicly setthis tantamount to complete national erasure of Persiaand the wholesale enslavement of Iran to israelno nation in their right mind would ever *EVER* agree to that
>>533464589I agree with most of your prediction that the US is going to try for this outcome, but I don't think there's any chance the Americans can steal Iran's enriched uranium. Not only is it not stored in a single place that you can just break into but it's likely buried multiple kilometers underground in fortified remote military bases underneath mountains. There's absolutely zero chance a team or even multiple teams of Navy SEALs can infiltrate such a facility. It'll just be sending them to their deaths just like the last few attempts.So the alternative to Navy SEALs/paratroopers is a full on ground invasion, but the US has no clear pathway to getting troops into Iran. Every road into Iran from the West is blocked off by mountain ranges. It's like no matter what the Americans do it's just gonna result in a bunch of dead 19 year olds with very little gain unless Iran suddenly collapses from internal conflict.>>533464878>The EU benefits from expanding, offering new markets, labor and industries.Ukraine is basically a 3rd world country at this point. The EU has no interest in actually accepting them unless Germans want to foot the bill for rebuilding Ukraine. That's probably the long-term goal but so is accepting Russia into the EU desu.
>>533464589USrael already tried to get the uranium during that fake 'pilot rescue' operation which failed and resulted in losing 2 expensive airplanes and several helicopters.The Iranians must have booby-trapped the uranium sites to the brim.
>>533465069You don't negotiate with terrorists like Trump and the jews.
ANOTHER BREAKING: Senior Iranian officials believe the U.S. and Israel may be preparing for a surprise attack even before the ceasefire expires on Tuesday – Axios@Middle_East_Spectator
>Iran will be bombed moregood
>>533465193Yes, every war crime makes them stronger
>>533465090>>533465109I fully agree with the both of you, but is a non negotiable action for trumpthe "enriched uranium / nuclear dust" talking point is 100% israeli to the core. Iran, by denying this one, sole point..can ensure this war can never, EVR be spun as any kind of 'win' in any way, shape or form by israel, who hitched all of their political messaging to recovering the uranium as the 'win condition'.Domestically, the 'ceasefire' is a catastrophe for israeli messaging, and has plunged thier nation into what is essentially cataclysm, that will result in the nation breaking apart for real. isael achieved ZERO of its stated goals of the war. ZERO>no regmine change, no 'popular uprising'>no definititve end to nuclear program, removal of nuclear material>defense industry and assets of Iran remain in huge numbers>no litani river, no lebensraum, no greater israelas a result of these catastrophic failures, israeli government narrative pivoted to "recovering the enriched uranium and ending Irans ability to make nuclear threats". this was supposed to have been achieved militarily..and the US attempted at Isfahan, which resulted in the "F-15 WSO recovery" horse-shit that has all but been DROPPED and memory holed.now....with no recovery of the uranium and a trump ceasefire in effect, israels defeat has been all but "sealed"....and this has thrown israel itself into domestic calamity, dealing with the reactions of satanyahu's coalition and the israeli people themselves, furious at their new reality.there is no scenario where israel allows this conflict to end with Iran intact as a state. unless israel is physically stopped NOW, the world is about to spiral off a cliff it cant come back from
>>533459393>IRAN IS NOT COMING>TRUMP CAN'T TACO
>>533459678he's a chronic liar and a jew
>>533465175Good, they're learning. Trump is the most deceitful jew you can imagine.
>>533459678>there never was any negotiations>trump just says shitThisit was just dogshit twitter posting while the US moved in the last of strike assetts into the region. nothing more
Iran rebuilding arsenal at record pace – IRGC commanderIran is making missile and drone launchers at a faster pace than before the war began, Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Aerospace Force commander Majid Mousavi said.Mousavi said that during the ceasefire, Iran has replaced and upgraded missile and drone launch sites faster than before.He claimed the US and Israel had been unable to replenish their own ammunition stocks.Mousavi said US forces in the Middle East depend on long supply chains, while Iran builds weapons quickly at home.Subscribe to @SputnikInt
>>533459393The kikes and zogbots managed to keep it together and not chimp out in the first one by some act of god, of course they wouldn't go to a second one just to get blown up.
So Trump's options are now to start bombing again or to just let the complete mutual strait denial play out?The latter situation, just lettings things drag, seems to favour Iran, so I guess Trump has to bomb but without any real purpose and everyone can see how futile and pointless it is.I think the better move for Trump is to try to rerun to what he already had, Iranians let say 20% traffic through in exchange for the US not molesting their ships. Basically, go back to where things were for most of the war before the ceasefire. Trump needs to negotiate basically total capitulation but the trick will be to structure not in a way that he can for his dumbestost gullible supporters claim some small slice of not a total loss.
>>533465525>Iran rebuilding arsenal at record pace – IRGC commander>Iran is making missile and drone launchers at a faster pace than before the war began, Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Aerospace Force commander Majid Mousavi said.>Mousavi said that during the ceasefire, Iran has replaced and upgraded missile and drone launch sites faster than before.>He claimed the US and Israel had been unable to replenish their own ammunition stocks.>Mousavi said US forces in the Middle East depend on long supply chains, while Iran builds weapons quickly at home.>Subscribe to @SputnikIntvirtually all of Iran is one giant VLS cell.you could have these dug into the ground fucking everywhere, and they could be wired underground, completely unreachable, to decentralized command and control centersit would be as impossible to find and destroy these as a submarine or worse
>>533459393Iran will not participate in any so-called "talks" that involve Jews or their lackeys, like Fat Face.
>>533465670Saved
>>533463355>Israel allowed 9/11 to happen>allowed
>>533463000>our>we
>>533464216Oh noes!!! Not le heckin' embassy!
>>533465660Trump only has one option and that is pivot entirely to the seizure of the enriched uraniumthe strait and everything about it is over. the threat to detonating every power plant and bridge is to create a human catastrophe in Iran that would require such a devotion of attention and resources, they could not possibly mount a real resistance to the US invasion force that will coincide with the bombings, to sieze Iranian nuclear sitesisrael is in a state of massive desperation right now, and actually literally for real teetering on complete implosion and collapse after failing every single stated war objectiveisrael has given trump and the US no choice but to mount an invasion and recover the uranium for the netanyahu regime, whos survival (and israel too) is predicated on it.the only way such an invasion could possibly work to any degree is if 93 million Iranians were having a humanitarian crisis all at the same time.this, and the inevitable amount of death it causes, is an acceptable price to israel, and by proxy trump.that should be a scary fact to the rest of the world watching.israel truly objectively does not value human life, and in demonstration, HATES it
>>533464216An embassy in a place you invaded and installed a puppet regime...should I leave the fly maggots alone in my place after I've gotten rid of the flies that came inside just because they are babies? No, I get rid of them because they are still shit eating flies.
>>533463072Underrated. Laffed.
>>533465670exactly, iran is literally impenetrable when you combine this with the endless mountain ranges they can use to bury military bases and setup traps.I think this is why the US went so hard on the regime change tactic. except they monumentally fucked up by bombing Tehran, the most anti-regime, liberal city in the country, and now all those people that originally protested the regime are signing up to join the IRGC just so they can kill some zogbots.
>>533465753>SavedNorth Korea does this too, and my have pioneered the tactic. the were sinking VLS tubes into lakes and bodies of water decades ago
>>533465968Not even Russia can take the Uranium. It has become sacred to the Iranians. Out of principle.
>>533463782All parties in Canada would say the same my friend, you aren't going to offend him that way. But I guarantee many Canadians who don't support any political party here will still say much the same. Face it, you are losers here because Israel is your master and you have no foreskin in the fight.
>>533466030Awesome. Long live Best Korea.
>>533465660>So Trump's options are to start bombing again...Surely the timing is just a cohencidence.
>>533465069>>533465299>>533465670>>533465968>>533466030Did you switch your VPN? I'm pretty sure you had a German flag before. You're the "colonial entity" schizo, right?
>>533466001>exactly, iran is literally impenetrable when you combine this with the endless mountain ranges they can use to bury military bases and setup traps.>I think this is why the US went so hard on the regime change tactic. except they monumentally fucked up by bombing Tehran, the most anti-regime, liberal city in the country, and now all those people that originally protested the regime are signing up to join the IRGC just so they can kill some zogbots.the easiest way to begin to understand Iran, and Irans 'pulse' is to imagine the shoe on the other foot.if Canada and Mexico were covered in Iranian bases, and Iran had 3 carriers, 500 jets and a dozen submarines and frigates off of both coasts of the US and the gulf of "America", and had been uttterly annihilating US cities, factories, bases, power plants etc, the ayatollah was publically tweeting about ending all of American civilization, issuing us ultimatums tantamount to suicide, on countdowns, calling us terrorists for defending ourselves all while Iranian marines massed in Cuba for the land ivasion of the US...every man, woman and child not seeking shelter or fleeing would be ready to eat out of the skullcaps of these "Iranian invaders" and the first waves of IRGC that landed in Louisiana or wherever would be gutted and hung alive by their entrails.why would Iran (in the situation they are now in) do any less?
>>533465660>So Trump's options are now to start bombing again or to just let the complete mutual strait denial play out?That has always been his only options ever since he started the war.You can't half ass a regime change war. You win by defeating the enemy and changing their regime, anything else is a loss. Cucking out of the war because you're upset about gas prices means losing because you don't have the balls for the war in the first place.Trump is an idiot who doesn't realize wars are serious things that have big consequences like shortages and economic damage. It's why you shouldn't start one without realizing this and having the backbone to finish it.
>>533466220tomorrow is hitler's birthday so it's definitely happening tomorrow. the zionazis can't help themselves.
>>533466221no you faggot absolute nigger /k/ikeyou dont "know" anyone hereyou fucking nooooooooooooooticefaggot fucking clowngo browse an archive if you want to update your jacket on "hey we nooooooooootice that guys posts!! thats that one guy we all nooooooooootice!!"
>>533463663I'd take a muslim who stay true to his religion/faith over an American larping as a christian with a jesus bumper sticker and worships the central banking system of fiat currency. You want support, tackle the beast within first.
>>533466330>the zionazis can't help themselves.Yeah, they sure do love their symbolism and ritual sacrifices.
>>533465968Uranium is purely symbolic for both sides. Iran could just make more. So it's the thing Iran will most readily trade away to give Trump the fig leaf of a "win", but interchange they will want EVERYTHING else, permanent toll on the strait as reparations, complete sanctions lifting... but the real issue is how to make any of this credible. How does Iran know the US won't reneg in a few months. The terms are basically decided it's Iran's 10 points, it's how to make it stick and be credible
>>533464589And to all those invaders who set foot in Iran I wish the most dreadful death upon them. God needs to show the world he still has that dog in em. Smite the anti-religious thugs that come to rape and pillage the faithful. Send the demons back to hell.
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>>533461431I can't tell if this is a larp or if people actually believe this shit.
>>533466534Iran won't give up its uranium, they have no reason to, not even as a fig leaf. They could just as easily end this conflict by announcing a nuclear bomb test in 2-3 months now that the IRGC is in charge. The Americans/Israelis really have no leverage.
>>533466534>Uranium is purely symbolic for both sides. Iran could just make more. So it's the thing Iran will most readily trade away to give Trump the fig leaf of a "win", but interchange they will want EVERYTHING else, permanent toll on the strait as reparations, complete sanctions lifting... but the real issue is how to make any of this credible. How does Iran know the US won't reneg in a few months. The terms are basically decided it's Iran's 10 points, it's how to make it stick and be crediblethis time...its different. the uranium is israels red line now that everything else is off the table completely.the only thing left for either side IS the symbolismIran symbolically wins by not giving up what israel set as both their and the US's red line>"the Iranian nuclear program"Trump has harped on this point incessantly, and even used his first term to set up this jewish war of aggression by ending the one agreement that allowed for monitoring in Iran.the US will absolutely positively 100% no questions asked 'reneg' on anything it aggrees to with Iran.THUS, Iran must ensure it does not give up its only leverage, which is "the enriched uranium"its no longer about the "regime" because they killed all of them off and it made no differenceits no longer about the strait, because no amount of force can ever open itits no longer about the Iranian missile program, because the damage is largely done, and the most of it is embedded under thousands of feet of granitethe uranium is all that is left now
>>533459393Why do non-whites keep choosing death? And why are the Iranian people who were protesting in mass against the government literally doing nothing? Perhaps because they don't have a second ammendment. Then again who could possibly overthrow the Government with just guns. You need nukes and fighter jets n shiettttt
>>533466631>And to all those invaders who set foot in Iran I wish the most dreadful death upon them. God needs to show the world he still has that dog in em. Smite the anti-religious thugs that come to rape and pillage the faithful. Send the demons back to hell.its a complete absurd shame that trump created the conditions for the US to experience thisit should have never happened, and attempting to escalate his way out of the situation only increases the amount of people who will die as a result>>533466732>Iran won't give up its uranium, they have no reason to, not even as a fig leaf. They could just as easily end this conflict by announcing a nuclear bomb test in 2-3 months now that the IRGC is in charge. The Americans/israelis really have no leverage.THISAmerica "knows" this, but israel will never allow the US to do anything but make the invasion attemptif America doesnt invade Iran before the end of next week, israel will literally cease to exist as a state, and the zionist maniacs in our government and the israeli one, would rather the entire planet burn than have that happen
>>533459393Basedelin Basedelon
>>533466863>And why are the Iranian people who were protesting in mass against the government literally doing nothing?those were literally israeli backed armed militants, sent to create calamity in Iranian cities, while the opening stages of the US/israeli invasion beganhere is video of the jew militant network plowing their car through masses of Iranian security forces, then retreating to a safe houseI have many more like this
>>533466863Those 'protests' were organised by Mossad. It's not even a secret. You can read about them in Israeli media. And as far as death is concerned, Iranians don't care. The highest honour is dying for your country and your religion. The parents of those dead schoolgirls get both condolences and gratulations. At the same time.
>>533459678Saying "agree to these ridiculous terms, they are our final offer, take it or leave it" doesn't really feel like negotiating to me
>>533467242>Saying "agree to these ridiculous terms, they are our final offer, take it or leave it" doesn't really feel like negotiating to meits because its not "negotiating" its israeli jew speak>"we warned you..you didnt listen...that means youre still a (((terrorist))), therefore...we have the right to slaughter you..because (((terrorists))) dont have rights according to israeli law"
>>533461431Stop using the retarded argument about Iran nuking Tel Aviv.It's clearly not true because they had twenty years to do it and did not try.If true, then so what? It's not my job to die for the defense of Tel Aviv. But it's not true so it doesn't matter.Plus, at this point, after all this Jewish terrorism, I want Iran to nuke Tel Aviv.
>>533459393NooooooWhy are the Iranian current leaders gathering up in one place what we can blown up It's not fair
>>533467693saying frustrating, insufferable shill propaganda points like that draws out the necessary (and ferocious) debunking of those phrasesit makes it much much harder for the trump admin, jews and hannity boomers to spew that crap if everyone who has ever heard it has a fucking litany of rebuttals waiting for their obvious bullshit
>>533463452They should obliterate the Arab puppets along with Israel. First, it creates an economic meltdown of likes never seen before, second it teaches the arabs a lesson, third it forces kikes to steal more oil and energy from their golem which will wake up even more people to the parasitic relationship between Israel and its host the great Satan. And fourth, it forces all American forces out of the region if they can't protect their sandnigger allies
>>533463425They suspected and successfully exposed that the embassy was a legitimate target because the CIA was using the embassy as a station. Kermit Roosevelt coordinated the 1953 coup from the embassy. So literally like the Lusitania carrying weapons.
>>533467693The previous Supreme Leader issued a fatwa forbidding nuclear weapons(and chemical weapons) because he saw them as barbaric This was the only thing holding the Iranians back from developing nuclear weapons. The US/Israel assassinated that guy and his replacement has said he wants to overturn that fatwa, and the IRGC have said they will develop a nuclear weapon as soon as that happens.
>>533459393>>>/x/42270151
>>533459802>JD Vishu
>>533466863Do you not remember when the cowardly US/Israelies attacked Iran in the middle of negotiations? Hick faggot.
>>533468109So Trump's entire claimed reason for the war is a lie.
>>533460190There’s no point. As long as America and Israel are perceived as the (incompetent) aggressors by the rest of the world, the regime is sitting in the driver’s seat. The war is only galvanizing the population, showing that they are military capable, and legitimizing their ongoing demands that they require nukes for self-defence.
>>533468639its a literal fox news jew shill pushing fox news talking points like "MUH PROTEST WHERE IRAN KILLED 40,000 OVER NIGHT!!!"the sad thing is.. the average fox news viewer believes that shit with convictioin
>>533459678this. i smelled a rat when i learned that the pakis had given the iranians conflicting english and parsi versions of the negotiating terms. apparently, the language of the english terms was way stricter than that of the parsi version.pakis were basically taking a fall for the americans in screwing iran over. glad that it didn't work, though. these peace talks were a joke.
Iran can now skive off the top of the GDP of every single gulf oil nation, soon they will be the richest country on earth.Why would they go back to the situation before. America can't keep bombing them, they are literally running out of bombs. Every bomb dropped that is not in service of a ground offensive is a waste of money.
>>533468766>So Trump's entire claimed reason for the war is a lie.how could anyone ANYONE truly actually believe (out of the blue) Iran was mere moments away from nuking the entire planet to ash, simply because they are "le crazy religious fanatics" all while being told this by insane Christian religious maniacs?
>>533468766>Trump's entire claimed reason for the war is a lie.Yup. Doesn't matter though. The War for Greater Israel will proceed as planned.
>>533468894>Every bomb dropped that is not in service of a ground offensive is a waste of money.israel understands this, and is forcing said ground offensive this week, if not tomorrow (or fucking "now")israel wont survive as a state past this month if the US doesnt invade Iran now
>>533460021>because their goals is to disrupt the West in the first place and get what they want.Every accusation a confession.
Too much news these days and haven't been paying attention, but the Strait is open right? So like whats the point of negotiations?
>>533460021>their goals is to disrupt the West in the first place and get what they want.Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. so why didnt Iran 'close the strait' earlier if that was their 'goal'?
>>533469180>Too much news these days and haven't been paying attention, but the Strait is open right? So like whats the point of negotiations?the strait is closed (and was the whole time)trump was lying utterly about fake negotiations that were never happening to buy time for the US invasion forces to be moved into the regionthe israeli state is further gone towards collapse than anyone in the US realized, thus, the invasion of Iran will timetable is being moved up to essentially "now" to forestall this conclusion
>>533468766>So Trump's entire claimed reason for the war is a lie.well yeah but that's normal for Trump. he's the ultimate goycattle just following his masters.
>>533465109https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_ClawLiterally the sequel, down to the details. :)
>>533468874Is everything here just plain opposite of truth now?
>>533464495Image Context?I tuned out this retarded war 2 weeks agoIt's just Iraq 2.0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbhPWmzYsms