..for an american.https://2009-2017.state.gov/m/fsi/sls/orgoverview/languagesThe Obama Administration's version of this page ranked Japanese as the world's hardest language via an asterisk next to it saying the Cultural Elements push it above korean, arabic, and chinese.The Trump Administration removed the asterisk putting Japanese on equal level with arabic, korean, and chinese.As someone certified in Japanese, i'm almost 2 years into the language, and past the hard part. Japanese is really tough at the start but once you get past the initial hurdles, it becomes easier to take in over time.What do you think, anon? Is Japanese really hard?
>>533464986Wow. VIPSince 2025WowSuch age such wow自殺する
No, the grammar works like a simple equation and the phonetics can be learned fairly fast - with a teacher, it’s one of the more easy languages to learn.
>>533465070>自殺する失礼な奴
>>533464986>after two years and past the hard part>and past the hard partHe doesn't know...
Nihonjinbro...
>>533464986The difficult part about japanese is learning enough kanji and speak like a native. Learning speaking Japanese by itself isn't really that hard.
>>533465070That means "I will commit suicide". Not kill yourself. You have to use the command form, しろ instead, if that's what you meant.
>>533465470>>533465156but chinese grammar is more simple than japanese, and learning chinese is easier than japanese due to kanji not having pronounciation differences in chinese.the battle is pretty much japanese against arabic.
>>533464986It's the most learned language on Reddit. The only hard part about Japanese seems to be coping with the fact that the literary language doesn't resemble the spoken language. So it's like you're torn between people who want to experience Japan as an ossified culture through reading and people who just learn kana and learn how to speak it to experience Japan as is. Because Japan as it projects in media (see: Cool Japan) may as well be an entirely different world from what it actually is and the incongruity causes people to hate each other. The distance from post 1950 Japanese and pre makes it so than even native Japanese have difficulty reading pre-ww2 stuff and anything prior to Taisho is like learning a new language. Seems like the best way to learn it is just to focus on the spoken language, avoid anime, and learn very basic literacy. Otherwise you're just interacting with a projection.
>>533464986I can read kana fine. I know a couple hundred kanji. But god I can never keep vocabulary in my mind and I drop anki once it gets to 200 reviews a day. Sometimes read n4/3 stories and understand the gist and thats it.
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>>533465650Suggestion from me is reading manga with furigana at the beginning to learn words since you can easily look them up, and then start challenging yourself with manga that doesn't have furigana since it starts forcing you to bother with the kanji and not the kana.
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>>533466004She doesn't need to speak at all, if you understand the point I'm trying to convey
>>533464986For Americans all languages are the hardest, including English.
Languages aren't hard. I learned french and russian in a week.What's actually hard is the fatigue you'll get from natives mocking you over your pronunciation. I know dozens of foreign people with thick accents who have been here for year and clearly never spent any effort to improve their pronunciation. And I don't care because I can understand what they're fucking. Which is probably ironic because I probably speak in a very american manner that most ebonized (west urban) americans can't seem to understand me very well. Which makes sense because I grew up in new england and the midwest.But basically even between americans we don't speak the same so when some retards from some shithole thinks their language matters because black people in africa speak it wants to be rude to me because I don't have a native level of speech I makes me realize how fucking sad these people are.Though this has only happened to me in paris, most russians will point out you're speaking in a very american way and even help you, but are mostly amused that you can speak at all.Anyways I could probably learn japanese very easily, the problem is I don't see any use. French and Russian are very useful, there are a lot of books that are worth understanding in their native form.
>>533466550A week is like prodigy status language learner unless you claim learning a language is memorizing a few phrases.
>>533464986It's the easiest to learn outside of kanji, actually Romaji is a better system and Vietnam were right to switch to it
>>533465544>Chinese grammar is easier Not once you're beyond Duolingo level kek
