Estonias HIMARS ammo (already paid & ordered via US FMS) is delayed. US stocks are depleted after 7-week Iran war, deliveries to allies like Estonia postponed. Some shipments due 2026-2028 now on hold, possible resume maybe in 2029 xDhttps://news.err.ee/1610000377/estonia-s-himars-ammunition-held-up-by-us-weapons-deliveries-delaysYears-long wait possible: US prioritizes own forces, production cant ramp fast enough. Minister Pevkur: limited info from the US, no quick fix for sure. Ex-commander: <3yr delay OK, longer needs alternatives (maybe Korea/maybe Turkey)."Arsenal of democracy" runs dry. Estonia should buy drones from Ukraine instead and enter the Ukrainian-Russian oil-tank destruction exchange now, covered by MSM only when Ukrainian drones hit Russian oil tanks, but when Russian drones decimate Ukrainian oil refineries, i must read about it only in non-Western media, recently xDVid-rel: yesterdays Russian attack on Ukrainian oil infrastructure, another one conveniently "missed" by Western MSM.
Second order effects of the failure to secure a quick victory after launching an operation without sufficient preparation or planning for adverse outcomes.
>Former commander of the Estonian Defense Forces Gen. (ret.) Martin Herem told the show that if the delay lasts less than three years, the situation will be okay.I dont understand this statement, desu. If i paid for smth and expected delivery this year, and then i was informed about 3 years delay, i would be fkn pissed, delicately speaking, id cancel the contract and sue the supplier xD Even if it was a delivery of potatoes, not yo mention a critical weapon system in a frontline country where local propaganda scares citizens with imminent Russian invasion any day now xD
>>533499492US doesn't use Himars against Iran
>>533500183You're stupid enough to be MAGA. https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2026/us-himars-launch-atacms-missiles-from-kuwait-in-strikes-on-iranian-military-targets
>>533500183The US used Himars against Iran during the Epstein Fury, tho. Confirmed by Fentcom:https://www.twz.com/land/u-s-striking-iranian-navy-ships-with-ballistic-missilesDelays stem also from Chinese rare earth export bans (2025+): PrSM/HIMARS rockets need them for guidance magnets, curbs slow US production ramp-up beyond war use
>>533500003>tf>tpGet a European VPN or something.. This is embarrassing.
>>533499492> allies like EstoniaYes if by "allies" you mean "vassals".
>>533500740What are you trying to say? No idea legitimately.
>>533499492Everyone and their momma told these retards to buy from Korea, but nOoOoOoo. Nobody considers US an ally here anymore, and most don't consider them a reliable business partner either.
>>533500150Why they don't they build the ammo under licence? If not them, I'm sure Germany could.
>>533500835Anyways, Estonia should be literally the _very last_ country where the US is incapable to deliver to. Thats because its order is microscopic, Estonia ordered _really_ low amount of stuff. Second reason is Estonia invests a lot in its defence, it spends +5% GDP on army, so it meets current Mutt-established criteria. Third reason is Hegseth naming Estonia as "model ally" in his speeches (alongside other expendable cannon fodder like Bolanda etc). According to new US defence doctrine (2026), so called "model allies" were supposed to get a preferential access to US weapon stocks.
>>533499492Sorry guys I need to spam Patriots at Shahed and I have about 15% successful hit rate so I need the missiles really bad please guys come on why am I the only guy with missiles on this team
>>533500938Wow, when she's not busy delivering McDonalds, GrubHub Granny is a military pilot too?
>>533501182Thats cool and all, but the needs of some “model ally” will ever outweigh the orders of the greatest ally
>>533499492Does that mean Estonia will be invaded by Russia?
>>533499492>Estonias HIMARS ammo (already paid & ordered via US FMS) is delayed. US stocks are depleted after 7-week Iran war, deliveries to allies like Estonia postponed. Some shipments due 2026-2028 now on hold, possible resume maybe in 2029 xD>Years-long wait possible: US prioritizes own forces, production cant ramp fast enough. Minister Pevkur: limited info from the US, no quick fix for sure. Ex-commander: <3yr delay OK, longer needs alternatives (maybe Korea/maybe Turkey).>"Arsenal of democracy" runs dry. Estonia should buy drones from Ukraine instead and enter the Ukrainian-Russian oil-tank destruction exchange now, covered by MSM only when Ukrainian drones hit Russian oil tanks, but when Russian drones decimate Ukrainian oil refineries, i must read about it only in non-Western media, recently xD>Vid-rel: yesterdays Russian attack on Ukrainian oil infrastructure, another one conveniently "missed" by Western MSM.
>>533501269Top Rusian politicians accused Estonia (and other Baltic states) of performing an aggressive drone attack against Russian Baltic ports by giving airspace to Ukrainian drone swarms. Even such heavy-weights like Patrushev were talking about this. I dont think a full scale invasion is on the table right now but Russia could use other tools vs Estonia, like some "stray" and "unknown" drones hitting scarse/concentrated Estonian critical infrastructure points and blaiming Ukraine for this etc
>>533501459>Top Rusian politicians accused Estonia (and other Baltic states) of performing an aggressive drone attack against Russian Baltic ports by giving airspace to Ukrainian drone swarms. Even such heavy-weights like Patrushev were talking about this. I dont think a full scale invasion is on the table right now but Russia could use other tools vs Estonia, like some "stray" and "unknown" drones hitting scarse/concentrated Estonian critical infrastructure points and blaiming Ukraine for this etc
>>533501182>speechesSpeeches, papers, declarations, treaties. In what fantasy world do we live? This shit is not worth the paper it's printed on.
>>533501459These drones end up in Estonia coming from pidor airspace. Get your airspace under control, pidors.
In the 1930's the US Army didn't have enough tanks or guns to train with.
>>533501696>These drones end up in Estonia coming from pidor airspace. Get your airspace under control, pidorsI dont claim that Russians tell the truth. Maybe they do, maybe they dont. It is irrelevant. The truth in war means nothing. Russians create narrative about NATO countries like Estonia performing an attack against their ports. It is hard to tell how they gonna utilize it.
>>533500183Even if they didn't, it might share components with something that was used.
>>533501819>I dont claim that Russians tell the truth.its easily provable ox cart full of shit people are blatantly lying againwhat nato airspace is used to attack oil installations near ufa or sterlitamak?yea thats right the russian apes literally tried to claim its not possible to attack st petersburg without using nato airspaceeasily refutable lie from bunch of mindless apes who somehow have whole huge ass country under their controlpic very rel
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>>533501819It really doesn't matter what they say. It does not matter the slightest. They do what they do, and we have to be ready for war. Narratives, or conjuring up casus belli from nothing, it doesn't matter, and we don't care for it at all. They do what they do. The only thing that matters is how much damage we can inflict upon them. You don't listen to what the blatnoy says, you punch him square on the jaw.
>>533502092I am an ex military intel operative (actually hired by the US embassy straight from OSINT business where i worked as a kid) and i try to think in analitic way on the basis of accessible data.Poland has imposed a temporary restricted airspace zone (EP R130) over its eastern regions bordering Belarus and Ukraine. Effective from 10 March to 9 June 2026, it bans most civilian flights and drones from ground level up to 3 km (FL95) with a full night ban (sunset to sunrise) except for military and pre-coordinated operationshttps://www.pansa.pl/pazp-wprowadza-strefe-ep-r130-na-wschodzie-polski/I CANNOT rationally explain why it was done from a military perspective if we exclude unconventional scenarios.This Polish law creates a de-facto military-only airspace corridor. One of probable scenarios: Polish regime enables Ukrainian drones this way to operate low-altitude without collision risk or civilian interference, routing them freely northward to the Lithuania border. Pre-coordinated military flights enjoy exclusive priority, enabling rapid, undetected drone transit to Baltic states from where they hit Russian baltic ports.Ukrainian drones being found in various locations in all three Baltic states would confirm this. Russia would need to jam them and took them over in a flight only to redirect them against Baltic states. The other version is Ukraine simply hittibg NATO countries (by accident or notL and usibg their airspace as its own. xDThats possible that we delt with a massive strike against Russian baltic ports with using NATO airspace, from the direction Russia wasnt prepared for. Ukrainians simultaneously send some decoys through Russia to activate their AD alarms to create impression that the attack is being conducted through Russian mainland.Anyways, all of this is irrelevant during a war. The objective truth is of no meaning.
>>533501169USA makes less money if they license production to someone else.
>>533502401BTW, Polish MP confirmed my theory during his parliament speech weeks after i published my analysis on /pol/ :https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/531972305/His speech was deleted shortly after publishing from Internet lately (YT, X, social media etc) and even from his own website, it was also deleted from parliaments video archives which means hardcore glowing interference. Glowies dont react like this in case of fake info.
>>533502972its just guy from braun whorepeats everything russian tell him to repeat for money same as you internet clownthose 2 posts refute your mindless bullshit about using nato airspace >>533502036>>533502055but of course you'll keep ignoring it you mindless russian ape because you know you are full of shit
you are that bangladeshi shill arent youanother z shill thread
>>533502972i actually hope you retards will be dumb enough to open another front to cover for the fact you dont have drone defense to defend against ukraine but it will most likely end in acts of sabotage and pushing niggers through the border like alwaysbunch of fucking apes
>>533501044>Everyone and their momma told these retards to buy from Korea, but nOoOoOooSK is no solution. Bolandas example is the best evidence. Chunmoo uses its own pods/missiles (CGR-080 etc). They do not fit or work in HIMARS launchers. Poland now operates two non-interchangeable MLRS fleets which extra logistics, training, and maintenance headaches. Polands local Chunmoo missile manufacturing only ramps extremely slowly. Many deliveries stretch to 2030-2033 despite massive orders and paper-tier/unconfirmed tech transfer. Estonia already bought 6 Chunmoo (deliveries 2027+) precisely because of HIMARS delays but that does nothing for the existing US FMS ammo contracts. Korea fixes the launcher gap, not the specific HIMARS rocket shortage. South Korea relies on China for 80% of its rare earth imports (persistent despite diversification efforts). China already imposed export licensing, caused 76% import drops, and banned SK firms from supplying defense products containing Chinese rare earths to the US (with threats of full cutoff). In a US-aligned scenario (aiding Estonia, kek, i wouldnt count on this), China could tighten or halt supplies to SK defense production, mirroring curbs on the US. Diversification lags until 2029+
>>533501169because they don't want our countries to have defensive capabilities
>>533503860sounds like its now or never churka
>>533504156The "greatest" most kosher ally of Bolanda despite more than two years of negotiations, like $100bln spent on American legacy ass-tier shit-weapon has still not agreed to transfer production of GMLRS missiles to Poland. xDhttps://www.fakt.pl/polityka/nie-ma-zgody-usa-na-transfer-technologii-general-to-ich-biznes/5jbmsfmFkn low-tech crap, 70 km range, sub-10 meter GPS "accuracy" etc. Amerimutts consider even such African-tier tech as too advanced for Bolanda. Meanwhile Iran, a brownskinned country where people still use cars from 70s due to decades of US-American sanction develops hypersonic glide tech, with 2k km range and pinpoint, under-one-meter accuracy thx to BDS integration. Where the fuck am i living? xDRussian EW degraded GMLRS accuracy in Ukraine with plenty of reports describing HIMARS/GMLRS as "completely ineffective" (kek) in some contexts, missing targets by 15+ meters which forced reduced/scaled-back use.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/05/24/russia-jamming-us-weapons-ukraine/Amerimutts dont want to share with Bolanda even such failed and toothless technology. This is insane xD
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Here you have Błaszczak/Płaszczak, a common example of ethnically Slavic Polish retardation mixed with irrational/destructive Cold War tier pro-americanism.First, the sold muppet ordered to poison all Polish soldiers with a long-term-fused genetic bioweapon developed since 2013 by USrael (DARPA + Israeli Moderna) for needs of global depopulation, only because he was given such orders from Washington.Then, the same muppet announces 500 Himars platform contract which is even funnier xDUS HIMARS launcher production is capped at 96 units per year (doubled from 48 in late 2024/early 2025, Lockheed Martin milestone confirmed Nov 2025). No plans for further increase of production. Poland's 486-500 launcher goal would require over 5 years of entire US output absolutely ignoring US Army needs, Ukraine aid, other allies (Romania, Australia, etc etc), and maintenance spares. Even optimistic future ramps wont change the math soon, new lines take years. Realistically, if we take into account urgent needs of US Army and all other US allies, it would take minimum 20 years for the US industry to build it. Anyways, thats still a nothingburger with ammo xD Ammo is much worse. GMLRS/PrSM stocks are strained (PrSM depleted in recent conflicts; production 400 PrSM/yr max, GMLRS ramping but prioritized for US forces). One launcher needs thousands of rockets for sustained ops, 500 systems would demand impossible surge without decades of dedicated output Poland cant have xDThis kind of "people" rule this neoconial and exterminated-by-design shithole.
>>533501044And one day you will realize that blindly hating Russians for things that happened to people before you were born, committed by people who are long since dead, was national suicide by corruption.There is no plan to defend Estonia. Some token forces are there for propaganda. Poland is the real front line and they have no natural casus belli with Russia or Belarus for that matter. Intraslavic hatred is stupid and futile given everyone's relative strengths. The Muscovite collossus isn't your enemy any more than Washington is your friend.>But people always have to learn lessons like this the hard way.
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>>533499492There were rumors coming out early last week that the EU was pissed off that they bought all of this military hardware as per the new agreements only for the US to not actually be able to meet demand.MSM is refusing to cover it though, so we only know from leaks in the US government about what arguments were going on.
>>533507737Thank you for proving my point.
>>533507779You think I'm going to entertain your delusional drivel? Lmao, you're even more retarded than you let on at first.
>>533507672I've never fallen into the trap of hating Russia over historical grievances. I hate them for what they're doing right now.
WHY CANT YOU EURO FUCKS BUILD YOUR OWN MISSILES IT WAS LITERALLY INVENTED ON YOUR CONTINENT DUMBASS RETARDS LAZY FUCK
>>533501044You realize that you yourself are pretending at this moment that the rational option doesn't exist, right?
>>533500150Sorry anon, jews come first.
>>533499492>but when Russian drones decimate Ukrainian oil refineries, i must read about it only in non-Western media, recently xDWe are ok with trading Ukrainian Oil refineries for Russian refineries. Ukraine depends much less on theirs than Russia depends on theirs. xD
>>533501269local russian population will need to be saved from genocide
>>533508275Ukrainian drone strikes on Russian refineries (2025-early 2026) caused temporary outages but near-zero long-term disruption. Most units restarted within weeks by activating idle spare capacity and rerouting crude. Chinese spare parts play crucial role here. Western sanctions blocked original tech hence Russia switched to cheap, available Chinese/domestic substitutes for distillation columns and components which enables to fix stuff in weeks. One of two most important Russian baltic ports already resumed operations after drone attacks. In 2025, Ukraine launched hundreds of drone strikes on Russian oil refineries, hitting at least +17 major facilities multiple times, with record waves in August–November. Yet oil exports saw pretty much zero long-term disruption. Russia offset damage by activating spare refining capacity (reducing net output drop to just 3-6%), quickly repairing units with Chinese spare parts, and shifting crude to undamaged sites or direct exports. Crude production and seaborne oil shipments continued largely uninterrupted. This year Moscow passed legislation forcing oil producers (Rosneft, Lukoil, etc) to fund anti-drone investments like nets, barriers, scaffolding, smoke screens, and reservist mobile air-defense teams, hardening sites against repeats. Future attacks will be less and less effective.By contrast, Russias strikes on Ukraine are incomparably more painful: 24 targeted hits in 2025 alone destroyed 60% of Ukraines gas production (Naftogaz facilities), plus power plants and grid nodes, triggering chronic blackouts, civilian suffering and economic paralysis far beyond Russias manageable export hiccups.
>>533508934This post of mine was just digested by newest Deepseek OpenSource engine. It thought like few minutes in expert mode, investigated thousands of sites from multiple countries (not only ZOG-owned media), and it confirmed i am right. xD
Tiny countries like estonia should invest in asymmetrical warfare. Buy some drones from temu, tape hand grenades to them. Much better than himars.
>>533508934>>533509959BTW, i cant fucking wait to check how fast Westoids are capable to repair their attacked/destroyed/damaged infrastructure. I am pretty much sure that if Amerimuttland was attacked, the repair ratio would be muuuuuuuch lower than even conservative destruction spread, due to absolutely critical deindustrialisation and skill-degradation. But i am actually being curious how fast the Western Europe can repair their stuff while being populated mostly with pensioners, shitskins/niggers and assfucking degenerates with +50% tattooed skin rate whose only life goal is consuuuuming carcinogenic/toxic "food" xD
>>533510688>Accidentally calls Ukrainians Westoidsbased retard
