If capitalism requires constant GDP growth, which requires a constant increase in consumers (i.e. increase in adult population), doesn’t this mean it also requires constant immigration to sustain itself?>but anon we could just make more babiesYes but we know from data that 1st worlders tend to average around 2 kids per couple on average.So inevitably capitalism requires 3’rd world immigration to keep itself going
>>533506248>If capitalism requires constant GDP growthIt doesn't>which requires a constant increase in consumers (i.e. increase in adult population)Nah only in consumption>, doesn’t this mean it also requires constant immigration to sustain itself?Nope
No we raise birth rates
>>533506345>>If capitalism requires constant GDP growth>It doesn'tWhat?
>>533506403Capitalism doesn't require constant GDP growth, a collapse of a capitalist system does not logically follow from either stagnation nor decrease, therefore growth isn't a necessity for its survival
>>533506248I requires money not infinitely tied up in stocks and shareholders or hidden away in some boomers basement. Basically boomers dying will solve a lot of issues.
>>533506248Capitalism doesn't require increasing population, maintaining the inflation tax does.
>>533506474Long term stagnation and/or decrease in GDP absolutely results in the collapse of a capitalistic system.Interest rates go up which means neither the government nor private citizens can borrow credit easily to consume, plus existing debts become more expensive, housing valuations and other assets fall in value etc
>>533506547So people limit consumption resulting in bankruptcy of some businesses and yet the system of voluntary exchange of goods and services for currency does not magically cease to function
>>533506248>Yes but we know from data that 1st worlders tend to average around 2 kids per couple on average.Are you retarded? Did you miss the 200 years before mass migration where the birthrates did sustain GDP growth?3rd world immigration is just the outsourcing of childrearing for the sake of greater profits at home, it's inherently unsustainable but better in the short term
>>533506248Only when birthrates don't recreate new consumers, which it won't if it's too low, and yes then it becomes corporations and industries that demand immigration, which it takes at least 70% the blame for.Wars are also in the interest of big businesses if it creates deflation, as well as influx of workers and customers. But what's harder to gauge is how much of that is true in a globalized economy, since most companies are worldwide, so why would they need foreigners at "home"? And that is often due to domestic labour laws, and cheapness of newly arrived foreigners.
>>533506248>If capitalism requires constant GDP growth?capitalism is basically just property rights
>>533506248Endless expansion is only necessary because of fiat and debt. Money created by debt can never be repaid in full sp the balance sheet must continually expand to prevent total collapse in the fiat. This is the very basis of the entire jewish global hegemony.
>>533506248>ITTgoyim confusing capitalism with private central banking corporativism.
>>533506248It's not actually capitalism but corporatism or crony capitalism. It does not require constant gdp growth but a debt based economy and and fractional reserve banking does. Approximately anyway.
>>533506248It's not capitalism that requires constant growth you fucking retard, it's usury. The debt based fiat currency that doesn't exist, but it's borrowed into existence and the very act of adding interest on currency that doesn't exist, meaning that the interest doesn't exist in the system, creates a debt that can't be repaid, and this a perpetual need to keep borrowing. The interest keeps growing, but you have no way to pay it off except to beg the banks to lend you currency to pay the interest but now you do owe. Every loan every credit expansion that is interest bearing is inflationary because it is increasing the amount of currency in the system and thus each individual unit of currency is worth less, as it is not backed by anything but faith. Over time, the currency is devalued more and more, which is why the companies and everyone got that matter, needs year on year growth in that currency, otherwise they are losing to the inflationary theft from the government and central bankers, who pay dividends to their clients. Only one percent of people here understand how insanely disgusting this usury is, because it's a major gateway sin that is destroying everything. Name me something and I can fucking link it to inflation. If any of you NPC bots understood how much this debt based currency, which is not money, was behind most of the ills in society, you would be feeling the need for pitchforks. Even the feminism is enabled by debt based currency. Men are no longer economically viable so these women turn to ideologies that give them what they think they want.
>>533506547Capitalist countries all around the world have experienced stagnation and even decrease and they haven't collapsedYou are dumb as fuck and you should be ashamed of yourself
>>533506248>doesn’t this mean it also requires constant immigration to sustain itself?that or turning your population into slaves that work for the lowest reward that doesn't turn intova revolt. Imagine what kind of manipulations it needs to perform, oh yeah you don't have to imagine. Capitalism is more retarded than communism.
>>533506400only if it's cheaper than immigration. If immigration is cheaper, you destroy the birth rates and increase immigration because every new migrant and baby not born = profit.
>>533507904I don't see why that would be the way to handle it
>>533506248Economy is a cancerous god you are sacrificed to.
>>533506345>Nah only in consumptionWe need more obese people.
>>533506248You don't need immigration if you can sustain population levels.
>>533506248>capitalism requires constant GDP growth,It does not, but even if it did under capitalism we would never import migrants since migration is bad for the economy.Migrants take away more than they contribute. They also create instable low-trust society and business requires trust and stability to work.
>>533506248>If capitalism requires constant GDP growthEconomic growth is usually the result of cooperation and technological progress and infrastructures developing. It is not a 'requirement', it is a result.GDP growth is a requirement only to the ponzi scheme of Central Banking, which is a direct attack on private property, it's arguably the opposite of Capitalism. Capitalism hinges on respect for private property... printing money is theft, it's essentially having Middle Class pay with inflation for Bankers' whims.
>>533506248Yes
>>533506248>If capitalism requires constant GDP growth, which requires a constant increase in consumersWow, and if my uncle had a cunt he would be my aunt! Seriously, who told you that and why did you believe them?
