Boy oh boy, districting Texas to pick up five House seats in a midterm Republicans were never going to win sure was worth it!Thank you Texas GOP!
Why is gerrymandering even legal
>>533524639The dumbest thing was that they were fucking warned. Multiple voices were pushing back on this retarded plan, saying that it could blow up in their faces. But stopping it would have required telling Trump that his genius plan was actually fucking stupid, and the republicans were too cucked to do that. Meanwhile people online were too high on Trump's bullshit. >"IT WILL WORK YOU'LL SEE TRUMP'S A MASTER POLITICIAN!" >"KICKING OUT ALL THE ILLEGALS MEANS DEMOCRATS WILL NEVER WIN AGAIN!" >"IF IT DOESN'T WORK THEN WE'LL JUST CANCEL ELECTIONS AND DECLARE TRUMP EMPEROR!" Stupid childish fantasies. Well, now that it's eminently apparent that Trump is a moron, and also very, very apparent that no, elections aren't going to be canceled and deporting illegals won't save you, what's left? It's going to be a fucking slaughter.
>>533524639Another 4D chess game that wound up being 1D tic-tac-toe. Two more weeks, I'm sure the plan will come together this time.
>>533524639Democrats have been gerrymandering far longer than Republicans have. If dems can't squeeze out more seats it's because they have already gerrymandered them to the max.
>>533524639the democrats have been doing this for decadesthere is no reason not to push backand the moment someone does they spurge out>y, you cant do that. only we are allowed to do it... we're going to get even
>>533525432>>533525543Gerrymandering happens every ten years after the census. Donnie dumbass is the only one to try out of the blue to rig an election.
>>533525334It's a racket. California has experienced an exodus due to national high cost of living expenses and taxes. Tens of thousands of Californians moved to Texas specifically which justifies their redistricting efforts.
>>533524639nothing is more of a scam than empty land having the equivalent voting power of millions
>>533524639Maybe it should just be clear the voting, elections, and democratic system overall are just a huge scam. I actually cancelled my registration to vote because clearly it doesn't fucking matter even on local school budget shit
>>533526055it matters and it works, but you keep falling for the same retarded kind of people.
>>533525971It does when that land is forced adapt to regulations irrelevant to their needs. That's not even a conservative outlook that's a common liberal environmental take to not destroy wildlife habitats and waterways.
We had a civil war where the cause was the democrats play by their own rulesMuch the way it is today. The democrat party gets to do whatever it wants and say they are the morally just onesAnd we all stand around and watchIdkI guess this will always be the way. Lefties stepping all over your toes for no morw reason then thats just what they like to do.Much freedom and liberty
>>533524639>>533525334most dem states are already super fucking gerrymandered. Look at the north east north of virginia, you have states like mass or NJ with 40% republicans with 0 seats or like 2/13 seats
>>533525971urbanites shouldn't be able to vote
>>533526232it's hilarious that you think you own the land and you decide which needs they are going to use that land for
>>533525432The Democratic Party has existed "far longer than Republican have." Please stop pretending that Democrats are slimier than the GOP when we have more than enough evidence to the contrary.
>>533524639>>533525334If the republicans redistrict so all their states look like Massachusetts, the Republicans will have 15 more seats.Democrats started this and are only screaming because once the GOP does the same thing, democrats lose. Like when they fucked with the filibuster or used underhanded tactics to turn out low info voters.Your entire pathetic life consists of cheating and then shitting and crying when someone nukes you back.
>>533525148Because the Republican Supreme Court deemed it so>>53352554340% of the vote in a small low population state can very well net you zero representatives no matter how you slice the land up. One of those states literally has just one seat, it’s impossible to gerrymander at all. What the concept actually looks like in practice is something like the North Carolina state senate getting 30 Republican senators out of 50 with just 48% of the vote.
>>533525717>census of illegals used to gain 20 electoral votes>2020 was a fair electionHerpity derpity derp derpface! Are you paid to be retarded and post retarded takes. No way you actually believe this. You are fucking retarded, kek
>>533526733As with the other retarded post, yours includes crying about a state with just one seat.
>>533526356There is plenty of gerrymandering going on on both sides. As a political tactic it is bipartisan. It also has nothing to do with what I fucking said. It's like you people think "BUT THE DEMOCRATS!" and it fucking shortcuts your ability to actually consider the conversation. Starting an idiotic redistricting plan in the middle of the decade in such a one-sided, blatantly partisan manner was always, always, always going to invite pushback from the democrats, and they were in a better fucking position to exploit it to the hilt. Regardless of whether you want to be delusional and tell yourself that "OH ONLY DEMOCRATS DO GERRYMANDERING!", the point is this stupid plan of Trump's had a humongous likelihood of blowing up in his face. It even has a non-negligible likelihood of blowing up in his face *within Texas itself*, because gerrymandering is not a cheat code, it's a gamble where you actually make some seats *less secure* in order to attempt to capture more-and if there's a large enough swing against Trump, it could actually lose him some of those "less secure" seats, now. It was a stupid, stupid fucking idea, and everyone was warning about it, and they went through with it anyway to appease the orange retard.
>>533525543Hey, if you want to give House seats based on proportional representation instead of winner take all, I'd be more than game for that.
>>533526356 6 out of the 10 most gerrymandered States favor the GOP, although that won't be the case for long in Wisconsin but that's after many years of extreme Republican gerrymandering. Pretending like this is a Democratic problem party is cope. One party introduces legislation in Congress every year to end it completely - and it's not the GOP.
>>533526629dems are slimier the dems haven't even had a primary in 20 years
>>533525334>deporting illegals won't save youAllowing illegals won't save you either, nigger. What do you not understand about ILLEGAL? If massive amounts of White rightwing migrants were to come in illegally, you'd be the loudest voice against it. We already saw that on how dems responded when Trump allowed in White Afrikaners - and they actually were LEGAL and actual victims of black violent racism.
>>533527340oh yeah I remember the south africans who were obese and had new clothestruly how I expect victims of genocide to look like
>>533524639The GOP has always been controlled opposition.
>>533526768>ecause the Republican Supreme Court deemed it sogerrymandering has been around since 1812, decades before the GOP even existed >no it's fine when the dems gerrymander
>>533525717>memeflagjeet
>>533524639It proved leftists don't give a fuck about democracy to everyone though.
>>533525543Republicans in those states are too spread out to give them a seat.
>>533527012they do the census in decade years and the effects don't get applied until like 2012/2022/2032>>533527083I'm not readin' all that, retard. the dems were already trying to do it before trump got elected. see that NY map that got struck down that was so fucking bad it accounted for more gerrymandered seats than every republican state combined
>>533524639Do you ever get tired of being retarded for a living?
>>533527192>6 out of the 10 most gerrymandered States favor the GOP,no, there is no fucking way. that NY map that got struck down had more gerrymandered seats than all the republican state combined. dems have shit like mass which has zero republican districts
>>533527340Again more retarded cope. Where the fuck did I say anything about allowing illegals? Where, you dumb faggot? Oh yeah, fucking nowhere. The point is that this delusional fucking cope about how kicking out illegals would change the electoral landscape to make democratic victory impossible was routinely cited as a reason why gerrymandering in this stupid fucking way was going to be anything other than a miserable fucking failure. I know you miggers are stupid so you have trouble focusing on the topic at hand, and if you see one of your trigger words it causes you to belch out the latest slop your LARPing e-conservative influencers are feeding you, but try to at least make the slightest effort.
>>533527090you can't. the dems federally banned that in the 60s
>>533524639Its actually worse for them, because Texan hispanics are extremely unlikely to keep swinging right like they did in 2024. The gerrymander used data from 2024, so its looking like it could be a dummymander. They may lose more seats than they gained.
>>533527192the dems are literally the reason gerrymandering exists, retard. the dems mandated single member winner takes all districts in the 60s
>>533527749>say retarded shit>here's an explanation why that's retarded>HAH I'M NOT READING THAT!1. When you say that, everyone immediately knows that you did in fact read it, and you just got mad at it because you had no relevant rebuttal2. Kill yourself, coping faggot
>>533524639Districts should just follow county lines & lump sparse ones together, but still follow the county boundaries.
>>533527941you are a tranny. Dems mandated winner take all districts in the 60smost dem states like mass and NJ are super gerrymanderedthis whole fucking thing started because NY tried to gerrymander midcycle due to coof and it got struck down and the NY map was so fucking bad it accounted for more gerrymandered seats than all the gop states put togetheryou are a tranny and dems are evil
>>5335246391pbtid gottcha rage thread.
>>533527537It didn’t get an official legal greenlight until Rucho v. Common Cause where the conservative bloc ruled in favor of it, just like how they rules in favor of unlimited bribery.
>>533526306STFU boomer and go back to facebook
>>533527985Wesberry v. Sanders, 376 U.S. 1 (1964), and the Uniform Congressional District Act of 1967>>533528129it literally had been going on for over 200 years at that point
>>533528207And then Roberts & company was given the opportunity to end it all but said "Nah go nuts". Now here we are.
>>533528055>muh tranniesMiggers, so fucking predictable.
>>533528124>unable to discuss the topic due to social media infection>uses a stale boilerplate attack on OP>rots in it's diaper waiting for FedEx to drop off it's transition drugs>cries alone
>>533525334>But stopping it would have required telling Trump that his genius plan was actually fucking stupid, and the republicans were too cucked to do that. I think Trump was seriously banking on the Supreme Court siding with him in declaring Cali's redistricting illegal while Texas' was fine. Which was fucking stupid from the start and relied on at least 5 of the justices being corrupt pieces of shit rather than just 2 of them, but im sure the republicans were thinking, "when has Trump steered us wrong before?"
>>533527905funny republicans right now hold house senate and courts and they aren't doing shit about it
>>533528187lol you mad sonnyIm not a boomer but id rather be a boomer then a zoomer
>>533528283again, it had been going on for 200 years. that court gave us heller, mcdonald and bruen and got rid of roe
>>533528663dems would filibuster, wetback
>>533524639democracy is fake and gay and anything that accelerates its downfall is good.
>>533527051Ohhhhhhhhhhh so massachusetts isn't horribly gerrymandered so that republicans can't win any seats? Oh cool glad we cleared that up.Hey did you know democrats are going to lose 10 seats in the 2030 census no matter what, and with deportations it'll likely be closer to 20?You will be a permanent minority because no one likes you, no one likes your shit and rather than saying "yes sir, gerrymandering is bad and I'm part of a bipartisan group to end gerrymandering in illinois and Ohio and massachusetts and kansas" you're just going to keep doubling down until we use our guns to expel you to canada (your true homeland) and you are never allowed back.>>533527192Keep lying! Maybe if you keep lying it will be true!
>>533529254The original question being answered wasn’t how long it was going on but why was it legal. You can point fingers at each side all day on who has been doing it for the last 200 years but there's only one group you can point to on who legally enshrined it when they could have struck it all down. And in doing so will have made those last 200 years look like a paragon of electoral fairness compared to what may lie ahead.
>>533527083>There is plenty of gerrymandering going on on both sides. As a political tactic it is bipartisan. It also has nothing to do with what I fucking said. It's like you people think "BUT THE DEMOCRATS!" and it fucking shortcuts your ability to actually consider the conversation.But the democrats is an argument when democrats are never saying "we should ungerrymander our states, if they do the same", democrats are only attacking maps of the majority in North Carolina and Georgia and Florida, but never ever questioning why Connecticut and Maryland are 100% democratic reps.So now, you get the metaphorical rope. And the best part is that it's your own rope you're being hung with. Enjoy, you dimwit faggot.>large enough swing against Trump in TexasThere won't be. Texas has 2 million More republicans than democrats. This fantasy you have of a blue Texas is why you have progressively and constantly lost more and more ground despite lying and cheating your way at every opportunity, because you refuse to live in reality at any stage, which is why now you're going to get BTFO.
>>533527863Texas hispanics are voting right because they benefit from Border Patrol funding since the BP is like 70% of jobs in south texas, you subhuman retard. You're so dumb you refuse to live in the real world and then cry when reality fucks you in the ass. Don't you get tired of being stupid?
>>533524639Louisiana v. Callais
>>533529652Sure thing dumb nigger. Enjoy the loss that everyone told you was coming in November.
>>533529588>everyone who criticizes Trump must actually secretly be a democrat fantasizing about his downfall!Cope. Cope. Cope. Cope. It couldn't possibly be that there are people on the right increasingly furious about the obvious fucking disaster this buffoon is leading us into. No, the only authentic conservatives are loyal miggers.
>>533529473Buddy, any party no matter its colors that gets around 30% of a vote is lucky to be represented by a shit sandwich. There’s no gerrymandering in or out of that with how electoral geography works. If it was more like 43% then *maybe* you could have a point.
>>533530110The funny part is he's talking about US being deluded when anybody who can read basic polling knows how fucking bad its going to be. I WONDER WHY so many Republicans have been retiring this year despite being incumbents? Perhaps because, unlike the retard you and I are arguing with, they actually do know how to read a poll.
>>533525148They put it up to a vote and somehow got it unanimously passed, then suppressed voter ballot investigations and are now passing bills to ban people from investigating. Liberals won't say shit because it benefits them. If Trump did this, it would be a civil war. And before you say Texas did, their courts ruled it unconstitutional.
>>533529554again, if dems wanted to ban it, they had 200 years to do so. dems are the ones who mandated single party winner take all districts and banned proportional representation
>>533530938>Noooooo you have to dignify my naked political stunt as an actual concern
>>533529554>And in doing so will have made those last 200 years look like a paragon of electoral fairness compared to what may lie ahead.also go look at what south carolina used to do before the 1960s. there are elections where only like 4,000 people in south carolina were allowed to vote for president in the 20th century
>>5335285941pbtid.
>>533529588my favorite part of the texas retardation is still the>blue texas this year>by the way we a running some guy who explicitly said is going to confiscate guns and allow mexican trannies to rape kids for some reason
>>533530159>1 in 3 Americans deserve ZERO representation>no it's bad when republicans do this back to us
Hey, easy solution is abolish the electoral college
>>533530110we get it, you are a yurojeet from some shitskin country like hungry on a vpn, troon>>533525148how do you prove it? and dems passed a bunch of laws like the law that mandates single party winner take only districts and MANDATES gerrymandered nigger and spic majority districts. Like the most famous gerrymandered district is a legally mandated wetback majority district in like illinois
>>533525717then trump has the merit to be the first one that openly pointed and tried to work against this shit?
>>533525148why do states not have party list voting for congress so people can vote communist or libertarian instead of blue zionist or red zionist by district
>>533531395this has nothing to do with the electoral college. gerrymandering is about legislative seats. the EC is based, btw. the only way to improve the EC is to just make it so each state gets one vote>>533531690dems banned that in 1967. prior to 1967 half a dozen states still worked like that
>>533531368You couldn't give that 1/3 representation through maps alone even if you tried in many cases.
>>533526232Farmers need to be tard wrangle. Left to their own devices, they will drain aquifiers, import illegals, and ruin marginal land to chase subsidies. Frankly, the interests of the agricultural lobby are overrepresented to America's detriment.
>>533525148because the constitution allows it. the reason it’s more of an issue over time is because we keep the house capped at an absurdly low number of representatives. It’d be harder to have weird or insane gerrymanders if we had double the number of reps
>>533531549>MUH TRANNIES MUH TRANNIESThe migger, when all arguments have been exhausted, will always bring up his masturbation habits.
>>533524639>Proposed =/= as real measured outcomeKYS now fast
>>533524639>>533531549
>>533531806yes you absolutely could.
>>533532110capping the house was based
>>533532748it was one of the worst things to happen to our democracy because it just means it’s hopeless for a local peasant to get elected without being backed by big money. if districts were a lot smaller it’s much easier for normal folk not backed by big monied interests to get elected
>>533525971>fractional reserve banking>first past the post>jus soli citizenship>unfireable government workers>welfare recipients voting>social security>the national firearms actI could keep going, but I don't have nearly the time to do the whole list of bigger scams than not turning over the whole country to cityfags.
Theres no point to trying to win elections. We are trying to win against 100-200 million nonwhites who are projected to grow in number while we are projected to shrink. Their strategy is simply to make us a minority in our own country. If we keep on voting about it all that will happen is Republicans will turn brown as well like Vivek, Rubio, JD etc. It's just math. There is no way to vote your way out of this, aside possibly from some of the white states seceding.
>>533529588This is the next senator of Texas. But neither the DNC or RNC are ready to have that conversation yet
>>5335337807 of his staffers resigned and went to the FBI with evidence of his massive corruption - crickets ... legislature holds trial to impeach him, loyalists thwart the removal vote ... he's gleefully criminal and also publicly spoke about Musk rigging the 2024 election for Trump
>>533525717>Donnie dumbass is the only one to try out of the bluehochul and gruesome would like a word.
>>533524639what does it matter? what makes you think there's a chance for a blue wave anyway?-dems refuse to drop gun control, costing them votes, when socialized medicine would save more lives than gun control anyway-dem leadership refuses to drop israel, and it's going to go over like a lead balloon, like how aipac candidates will go over like a lead balloon-constant attacks on men and the "manosphere" is not going to attract male voters. zoomer males are already moving to the right and internet feminists continue to alienate men by talking shit about "patriarchy" instead of explaining how capitalism harms men. they literally can't form an argument outside of "man bad"
>>533534439>-dem leadership refuses to drop israel, and it's going to go over like a lead balloon, like how aipac candidates will go over like a lead balloon>-constant attacks on men and the "manosphere" is not going to attract male voters. zoomer males are already moving to the right and internet feminists continue to alienate men by talking shit about "patriarchy" instead of explaining how capitalism harms men. they literally can't form an argument outside of "man bad"All this and the dems' general coddling of the mentally ill is why I'm also skeptical of a "blue wave" this year. Not that our faggot, kiked-out prez is helping matters. But I predict that, at best, the dems will retake the Senate, but not the House, thereby ensuring another two years of dysfunction wherein goyim continue to be left to deal in the real world.
>>533534239All the people I hate in the government are going after him so he must be doing something right. He's been a fine attorney General while I've lived here and one of the few people on the gop willing to roll up his sleeves and get shit done he's always suing the democrats and shit.I'm gonna vote for this guy first day of early voting of the run off. For once we have a decent option to vote for instead of Ted Cruz and John Cornyn. Total shitters.
>>533524639the demonrats would have done this anyway
>>533526306You're a retard. Can't wait for you people to rot
My house is in one city. My nextdoor neighbor across the street lives in another. The house to the right of me, and the rest of the houses around my block going to the right, are in a different city. The house to my left, and the houses on my block going to the left, are in a different city. I understand this is how this has to work, but it is pretty fucking retarded to have 3 different cities meet in a fucking housing development. WTF. If I lived one house to my right I'd have 1 day Amazon delivery, but bc I'm in a different fucking city by being next door to the city with the listed Amazon warehouse, I get 2 fuckin day delivery. What the fuck niggas.
>>533525148They could prevent it by making a law the perimeter of a congressional district cannot exceed 150%, 200% of the circumference of a circle an equal area.
>>533525148Because it's very difficult to actually lay out a concrete rule for when gerrymandering is happening vs when it isn't. Sure, we as humans can see when it looks like gerrymandering is happening based on weird border shapes, but it's very hard to nail down a technical definition for "this is gerrymandering" vs "this just matches a particular terrain element that we decided to use as a border / this matches the amount of towns that are part of the same community / etc".And to make something illegal you have to have it not be subjective or vague.
>>533532570Remember Red Lobster? It came back, in district form!
