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Day: 13 of the 14-day Ceasefire™ period in Iran
Day: 51 of the 1-day Special Military Operation™ to decapitate Iran
Day: 4 of the 10-day Ceasefire™ in Lebanon

▶RECENT:
>Iran confirms US interdiction, seizure of Iranian vessel, says will retaliate ‘soon’
>US Navy destroyer USS Spruance intercepted Iranian-flagged ship TOUSKA in Gulf of Oman. Vessel in US custody
>Fars and Tasnim: Iran still has not confirmed they will attend the new round of talks in Pakistan
>The White House: JD Vance will attend the new talks with Iran in Pakistan
>POTUS to Fox News: If Iran doesn’t accept the deal, the entire country is getting blown up
>Pool's closed
>CNN, citing Iranian officials: A new round of US–Iran talks is expected to take place in Islamabad, Pakistan, on Monday, APR 20th
>Intense Israeli artillery shelling of Khiam, Debbine and southeast Lebanon, less than 30 minutes into the ceasefire

▶WARNING:
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>Uкraine / Яussia discussions belong in uнg or cнug

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>>533532062
Pray for the bombings to start tomorrow
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Trade Bibi's lubed up asshole for irans uranium. We can do 2 regime changes and bitchslap israel for the trouble.
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>>533532062
FEAST YOUR EYES
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Nothing ever happens
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FUCK ISRAEL
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So is israel just screwed now? What is their endgame as this goes on and on for months, if not years?
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New FBI incoming...
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>>533532062
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>>533532062
Nothing is even happening today Trump folded AGAIN
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>>533532062
I wanna die
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oh and can the baker please add this link for the real spot price of oil and its products here in the US?
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_spt_s1_d.htm
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Trump status?
Hegseth status?
Vance status?
Caine status?
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Iran is so assblasted about losing the Touska to the mighty US BLOCKADE. Sorry Irannies but the POOL is CLOSED. Say goodbye to YOUR power plants and bridges TOO. When you bless ISRAEL you WIN!
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American website: Israel may consider a 6-day war-style pre-emptive strike against Turkey if tensions escalate and get out of control

A stunning analysis by an American news site 19fortyfive warns that Israel may consider a pre-emptive strike against Turkey if tensions escalate and get out of control.

The scenario is compared to the Six Day War, when Israel launched a surprise attack to neutralize threats within hours.

According to the analysis, growing tensions under Recep Tayyip Erdogan and expanding military capabilities could push Israel to drastic action if it feels an existential threat.

Potential targets may include:

• Turkish F-16 fighter jets and bases of the Turkish Air Force.

• UAV production sites (including facilities in Qatar)

• Naval bases and ships

• Air defense and radar systems

• Central military industrial infrastructure.

Experts say that if Israel believes its survival is in danger, it may strike first, quickly, decisively and overwhelmingly, to disable Turkey's capabilities before a full-scale war breaks out.

A conflict of this scale would shake up NATO, redraw regional power dynamics, and risk a wider war in the Middle East.

https://nziv.net/126650/

/TIG/ soon
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>>533532668
Trump status?
trying to use the nuclear codes as he is winning
Hegseth status?
taking advice from Jack Daniels and Captain Morgan
Vance status?
Seething on an 18 hour flight there and 18 hour flgiht back
Caine status?
saving us from commiting atrocities
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>>533532487
Someone called him "Hush Patel" for covering up for Epstein clients... and I can't unsee it. I called him Hush Patel with some hormones who don't say anything presumably because they assumed that's his middle name or something
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Stop saying Iranny
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>Iran’s FM Araghchi tells Russian counterpart US behaviour incompatible with diplomacy
Based Iran tells chabad Russia to fuck off with their cuckwarfare bullshit
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>>533530906
i think the status quo is the worst case scenario i could have imagined on day 1 of the war but things can always get worse

fertiliser shortages could cause a famine in africa, which triggers another migration crisis for europe. jet fuel shortages could crush tourist economies. chinese stockpiles of oil, plus its russian pipeline, could give them another leg up in manufacturing and make everyone more vulnerable to dumping.

all of this is more strategically harmful to america than iran, but america continues to think minor tactical successes are more important than strategy.
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>>533532771
Kikes wont do shit without their golems full backing
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>>533532062
>>Iran confirms US interdiction, seizure of Iranian vessel, says will retaliate ‘soon’
So that was a lie?
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Donald here. You know these sand niggers are just boring. Think I will blow the dams North of Tehran and laugh as 10 millions sand niggers have to drink camel piss to survive. DJT
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>>533532960
the ceasefire ends on wednesday bud not today
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>>533532824
You lost Iranny
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>>533532062
Israel and America are WINNING big against Iran, folks, really BIG, and people are talking about it everywhere. Total STRENGTH, total POWER, and a level of coordination that nobody thought was possible. They said it could not happen, they said it would be too difficult, but look at what is happening now, it is a complete TURNAROUND. Israel is SHARP, America is STRONG, and together they are absolutely DOMINATING in ways that are very hard to believe. Iran is trying, they are scrambling, but it is not working, it is just not working. The strategy is SMART, the leadership is TOUGH, and the results are coming in FAST. Everyone sees it, even the critics see it, they just do not want to admit it. This is what WINNING looks like, this is what happens when you have CONFIDENCE and REAL POWER. Israel and America together, it is a combination that cannot be BEAT, not even close, and it is only getting STRONGER every single day, believe me.
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>>533532817
Imagine believing some retired spook has any idea about the specifics of private POTUS meetings. He's not even jewish, he knows nothing.
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>>533533159
Keep your boomer mind control incantations to yourself
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>paper /pig/anon
Longs: FRO, INSW, NAT (tankers), UCO 155sh (2x WTI), UVXY 100sh
Options: 6x SPY 5/15 $690P, 2x GLD 5/15 $445C (added on gold -1% anomaly on kinetic day)
Closed: RTX 5/15 $200C when I clocked Q1 Tue pre-market. -$750 tuition, earnings rule added.
Thesis: market binary-pricing deal/no-deal Wed. Extended closure modal ~48%, kinetic tail ~27%.
>Trump ×2: "blockade stays until DEAL"
>Vance STILL in US per Reuters
>Araqchi/Baghaei/Pezeshkian triangulated no
>Qaani in Baghdad activating proxies
>Reuters Gulf source: "Hormuz is the red line, goal posts moved"
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>Axios: Trump's over it, doesn't like Iran holding the Strait using it against us
Triggers: UCO>$41.50 scale (Jul17 $44C), FRO<$34.85 fail, SPY>$712 fail, GLD<$437 kill
Asymmetry: deal -$2K, closure +$2K, kinetic $105 WTI +$25K, regional $130 +$100K. ~12-50x skew.
Vol 38% prev daily, UCO coiling $39.30-$40.20. Springs Tue Islamabad or Wed expiry. HODL.
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>>533532771
Yeah, hush patel is also great. He has a versatile name.
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>>533533240
You lost tranny lol
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im going to KILL the next persian i see
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>>533532602
don't encourage the kikes
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Help me Im winning!!!
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>>533532817
>Seething on an 18 hour flight there and 18 hour flgiht back
Does he really fly from the us to pakistan each time? Is he coming back tomorrow?
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>>533533002
oh so they're going to retaliate but only when the war would have restarted anyway? very scary.
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>>533532062
>Day: 13 of the 14-day Ceasefire™ period in Iran

Soon™ back to action.
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>>533532856
I love Iran trying to fight the good fight but they aren’t getting certain shit like the US leaving in the region. They need to temper their expectations.
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>>533533699
I’d have preferred to stay in Pakistan for the two week period. It’s not like the vice president is all that busy, and the trip can be justified as being ready to negotiate at any time.
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>>533533927
Heh, what's America going to do about it? Attack iran and try to invade it?
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>>533533527
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>>533532065
>I did not know. Did this change anything? Has the rapes gone down. I don't follow Indian news or any news for that matter, and you already know what filtered news we get on Pol.
it's difficult to answer with confidence because underreporting can happen for many reasons. But reported rapes are unlikely to not be featured in the news, for sure. Plus, with our population, if you have a 1-in-a-million level fucked up mind, there's still 1,500 of you around. Excluding women, that's 750 Indian men with a 1-in-a-million level fucked up minds. Now that's 0.0001% of men, yeah and if the cops don't save them, they get lynched by men pretty quickly, particularly if there's kids involved. But stuff like that makes the news and it's easy to get clicks talking about horrifying news from India. As to the reality, it's difficult to say because as per the UN office of Druga nd Crime https://data.unodc.org/datareport/violent-offences the per country stats are interesting. Now on paper, the incidence of rape is per 100,000 is all over the place. For 2013, India and Thailand have 2.6, Singapore 2.2, Pakistan 1.2, Germany 9.3, France 16.33, Greece 1.55, Spain 2.72.. idk.
https://data.unodc.org/datareport/violent-offences
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>>533533927
Idk UAE juat said they're a strong powerful gulf state who don't need no hegemon and Israel for the first time ever offered it's territory for a US base. These morons may just talk themselves into something similar to what Iran is demanding.
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Dow jones is over 60,000

Everyone sign up to own the trannies
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>>533534082
https://people.com/tv/kim-kardashian-iranian-officials-accuse-star-of-being-a-secret-agent/#:~:text=The%20Iranian%20Revolutionary,Kardashian%20West%2C%2035
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>>533532960
>So that was a lie?
There were reports that drones were launched at the ships. No idea if it happened and if it happened, if any drones hit. If any hit, no guarantee it would be reported, either.
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Browns and Lefties are COPING and SEETHING

Touska status?
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>>533532817
Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
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Europe canceling flights due to fuel shortages. Reserves are starting to run out everywhere. Blompf has a couple of weeks left to solve this mess.
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>>533533938
>stay in a foreign nation for an indeterminate length of time that may or may not redeem your real-time location to interested parties oh also this nation borders the one you’re trying to negotiate with
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>>533534469
>Blompf has a couple of weeks left to solve this mess.
solve your own mess, turdies

NOT
OUR
PROBLEM

maybe dont rely so much on Sand Nigger Juice
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Melty Monday
TACO Tuesday
Fake News Friday
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>>533532771
strategically speaking, why the fuck
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>>533534469
nothingburger
we have refineries, we have oil
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I have the feeling Kash Patel will fuck up something soon. Worse than that time he got hacked.
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I can only assume that anyone who seriously supports the orange nigger and isn't doing it as some kind of ironic joke is just brain damaged at this point
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>>533534550
>backstab all of your allies for Israel
>think that this will not have any repercussions
Why shouldn't Europe and all of the countries in Asia just align with China and break your blockade by force?

And remember that you mutts will suffer for this in any case since your oil jews sell the oil on the global market and the american consumer will pay for this increased demand till the situation is solved.
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>Retired CIA analyst Larry Johnson: >Trump tried to used nuclear codes against Iran during White House “emergency meeting” on Saturday. Trump was halted by Air Force General Dan Cain who used military privilege to stop him.
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>>533534793
lmao go ahead and try it, losers
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>>533532771
only a moron can actually believe this kerfuffle.
>>533534662
if you actually plan something like this, you would keep it secret. you wont publish your plans in broad daylight telling the entire world you are planning a "suprise" attack.
it defeats the purpose.

counter to your point, there is strategy in releasing a news article like this. it is basically giving signals to USA and publicly calling for their support. this is what is called public blackmail. and they are blackmailing their golem which is the USA.
but not a single prominent name in the USA both in the policial sphere of influence or media circles have never invoked turkeys name as an enemy. the war against Iran is as unpopular as it gets and adding turkey do the pile is not even talked about since the public response to it would be even more unpopular.
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>>533534189
Kek
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Why does anyone keep following this while shit isn't being fired and we are two months off from the damages cascading into anything serious? Just ignore this until June or until the memefire breaks.
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>>533534550
did trump nationalize the oil companies yet? otherwise youre getting raped too
not to mention the only reason your money printer works is that the dollar is pegged to global trade transactions
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>>533533927
They see the writing on the wall, it's their time to get Libya'd.
>let America stay, Iran gets Libya'd in the following couple of years with more perfidious/sneak attacks and subversive glownigger ops
>tell America to fuck off, America refuses, Iran gets immediately Libya'd unless they somehow win this war
It seems this time they would rather go down fighting rather than cucking out and raising symbolic flags like the old guard.

Ironically America would've won this war if they hadn't murdered the old guard.
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>>533532771
So this is why the Krauts have said 18-35 year old males need to stay put. Also why Starmer has said the country needs to be ready in war time. Israel attacking a NATO country will start WW3.1
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>>533535232
i had plans and trump fucked them up on feb 28
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>>533535013
Don't you think the Turkey messages might server domestic purposes (in Israel)? I'm not following a lot of domestic Israeli propaganda, so maybe we're missing something (rally around the flag through fear of a multi front war OR pretending like the multi front war is possible, so the population accepts a ceasefire).
Israel has been whipping up the population for war and conflict... Them backing off would require a special kind of backpedaling.
>but I'm just guessing
>as you are too
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MQ-4C Triton drone up....

nice callsign, 'overlord'
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>>533534871
>Trump tried to used nuclear codes
Man is barely literate.
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>>533532771
>>533535298
If Israel attacks Turkey, NATO ends.
Turkey would align with Russia.
Russia would invade Europe.
Then it's nuclear armageddon.
Jews aren't that retarded.
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>>533535604
We going to lose a second one?
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>>533535742
nuclear armageddon is good actually
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>>533535742
>Russia would invade Europe.
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Trump no1
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>>533532771
>19fortyfive

that website is the most retarded zog propaganda possible written at a highschooler level
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>>533535232
Because it's interesting to see the American Empire fall apart in front of my eyes. As for the fallout, future diplomacy and excursions will probably only be limited to the Americas from now on. Expect more beaners coming into this country as a general rule of thumb for the future of this nation.
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>>533535453
Israel’s domestic “propaganda” is as follows
>war means Netanyahu can postpone his court dates
>the Israeli public has a bloodlust against its neighbors that somehow makes Netanyahu look like a moderate
Ignore what they say about being tired of going to the bunkers, what they actually vote for is the More War party
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Why are the Irannys such pussies?
They're having their ships taken and losing izzat by the second
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The Saudi Al-Arabiya channel quotes the Pakistani media reporting that Pakistan's Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif has asked the United States and Iran to extend the ceasefire for an additional two weeks, and tomorrow he may announce the extension of the ceasefire.

More blueballing
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>US submarine sinks Iranian navy frigate with a torpedo
>US destroyer stops Iranian freighter by firing its main gun at their engine room
US sailors are living the dream
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>I'm winning the war by a lot

Well you either win or or lose it so what is it you orange nigger?
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>>533536136
>two weeks
Why does it always have to be the meme two weeks? Can't they do something respectable like 88 days. That's a cool number and almost a full quarter, you sure can do some stock market shenaningans with that.
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>>533535816
yeah

>>533535930
Ukraine has a better military than all europe combined, you know that?
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>>533535742
>Russia would invade Europe.
This is NATO propaganda
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>>533534871
Would be extremely funny if true
>military privilege
What's that? I thought the president is the undisputed leader of the armed forces
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>>533536051
Sure but maybe there's a realization this is a dead end. If Israel runs out of AD before Iran/proxies run out of shaheds and arti, while USA can't resupply nor are there any other means to resupply on short notice, then they are screwed. More than "oh no, legal trouble for bibi" screwed.
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All of this is pure speculation either way. I obviously hope Israel gets wiped of the map. Then a one-state solution might work.
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>>533536138
so can they actually drive it?
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>>533536345
>Ukraine has a better military than all europe combined, you know that?
Ok? So why would Russia increase the size of the front by 5 times?
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>>533536225
There's no way US is getting anything better than JCPOA
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>>533536413
To conquer land quickyl where there's no dug in trenches lmao
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>>533536225
Mentally sound human being right there
>BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
never gets old as well
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>>533532771
>memeflag
Russian shills stirring division between countries aligned with the west.
This sort of propaganda is worth keeping track of but not believing.
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The magians will lose. Shia dogs are not muslims
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>>533536461
With what men and equipment? They've lost most of their tanks, they lost over a million men in Ukraine and their air force was shown to be shit.

The secret behind the German blitz was combined arms warfare, something the Russians have proven they can't do. You can't conquer land by just shoving a bunch of light infantry in meat waves and hoping the enemy doesn't respond fast enough. That logic is why Russia is in this Ukrainian quagmire to begin with.
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uhg/chug please go
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>>533536588
Ummah status?
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>>533536225
wow!! more years of embarrassment and humiliation that we have been forced to suffer due to incompetent and cowardly leadership!
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>>533536407
Yeah they previously mentioned that they fired at the engine room so likely it can't move under its own power now.
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>>533535453
It is a call for foreign interference and assistance, as in foreign i mean the USA, but again there was not a single sentence invoked from the USAs side that supports israels ambitions against Turkey.
Even israelis are not that stupid. So the internal politics reasoning is flawed in my opinion. I despise them but dont think for a second that a majority of israelis think they can win a war against Turkey without outside help.
They are trying to take over Southern Lebanon and failing miserably against a determined guerilla resistance. There is no way in fucking hell for israel to pull that shit off without using nuclear weapons. There is no such thing as a knockout blow against Turkey. You have to be utterly retarded to even believe that israel actually has a chance against Turkey without using nuclear weapons or the assistance of the USA. And I am not saying this because I am turkish. It is almost a funny statement.

Hypothetically speaking, what can a Pearl Harbor style against Turkey will achieve?
>It will automatically trigger Article 5.
>It will push Iran and Turkey closer.
>It will alienate the only country in the region that supports israel and supplies them with most of their oil, Azerbaijan.
>Tel Aviv would be targeted not only by Irans missiles but also Turkish missiles.
>Turkey can annex israel but will most probably dont fall for the bait, because that is what Saddam did against Kuwait. Saddam got the greenlight from the Americans before invading Kuwait, he was told that you can go with the attack, we wont intervene. Only for the "babies in incubator" bullshit on the TV and the initiation of Desert Storm.

i can go on but again, it is utter stupidity. That bullshit news article is just israelis asking for american support on publicly.
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>>533535013
>you would keep it secret. you wont publish your plans in broad daylight telling the entire world you are planning a "surprise" attack.
Sounds like something you'd leak if you were trying to mess with miggers by just dumping all the schizo shit Bibi says while he's jacking off in the oval office
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>>533536377
Air Force General have a say, MoD too.
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>>533536391
>Sure but maybe there's a realization this is a dead end
There is not. There is only a realization that the ovens are turning on and they haven’t the faintest idea of what could have caused that to happen
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I called it before, however I thought the antennas were in Azerbaijan, they were in the UAE and Qatar. Turns out a 1.2 billions radar does more than just a long range radar:
>After Iran bombed the secret center for cloud seeding, cloud pulling, fog, and radars in the UAE..
Suddenly
>The climate in Iraq and Iran changed, and now there's rain every week, and temperatures shifted dramatically by 5 degrees, which is a huge number.
>Floods returned to Iran after it had suffered from severe drought, to the point that the Iranian government was considering moving the capital from Tehran to southern Iran due to the drought.
>The goal of this center was to destroy the agricultural sector in Iran and Iraq, leading to the elimination of livestock wealth, as well as causing a drought and desertification disaster.
>The UAE is complicit of weather warfare against Iran.
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>>533536446
Sure they can, if Trump just pulls the terms out of his ass and tweets it
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>>533534871
With sound :
https://x.com/jimmy_dore/status/2046224644479524939?s=46
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>RT
>UAE ditch dollar for CHINESE yuan — US officials
>If Trump won't bail them out as Iran war 'plunges Emirates into CRISIS'
Play jewish games win jewish prizes
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>>533536051
>Ignore what they say about being tired of going to the bunkers, what they actually vote for is the More War party
The "main opposition" party was also opposed to the ceasefire. You can either vote for bloodthirsty kike demon, or even more bloodthirsty kike demon in israel it seems.
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>>533536661
The magians will unite the Ummah against them
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They making me mad, nooooke them
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>>533537214
>The UAE has quietly started to blackmail Washington. If the US doesn't provide the Emirates with a "financial cushion", Abu Dhabi is ready to abandon oil payments in dollars and switch to yuan and other alternative currencies. All this is happening against the backdrop of the war with Iran and the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, which have already started to hit their pockets hard. The Emirates, which were a model of loyalty and stability just yesterday, have suddenly hinted: "If you don't help with money - we'll start playing the game of multipolarity." While the Americans proudly boast about how they "keep the situation under control", their closest "strategic partners" are already figuring out how to quickly abandon the dollar. The East is the East - there, friendship is friendship, but oil and money are separate.
I would say let them COOK.
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>>533536856
>Even israelis are not that stupid.
You're discounting that the israelis are desperate to achieve whatever they can before we abandon them. Even before all of our boomers die out, there will be a big swing on how America deals with Israel. Mamdani's election in NYC was the canary in the coal mine regarding this issue.
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>>533536856
>Hypothetically speaking, what can a Pearl Harbor style against Turkey will achieve?
Yeah, I in no meant they would do it. At all. 0.01% chance in my opinion. I meant to say that we can't estimate all the internal politicking, if we're not really on top there. Attacking Turkey is geopolitical seppuku for all the reasons you mentioned and more.
>>533537015
>goes to blackboard
>"HUBRIS"
Nah but for real: Maybe you're right but I'm pretty they know Iran, Lebanon AND Turkey would be too much. It doesn't even take the whole NATO framework into account.
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ceasefire and negotiations status?
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>>533537064
does this 1-month period really represent the reversal of a 40 year decline?
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>>533535013
This dude is in denial.
youre on the menu bro. israel comes before nato.
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>melty Monday
>TACO Tuesday
>Wednesday
>Threat Thursday
>Fury Friday
>WAR Weekend

What does Wednesday stand for though
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>>533536138
>US sailors are living the dream
Shooting at unarmed vessels?
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>>533537505
The nothing ever happens meter is still sitting firmly at "nothing".
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>>533537625
Oh I know

>WINNING Wednesday
lol
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>>533532817
not gonna like, former trump voter here, this is what made me regret my vote
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I'm not gay enough to keep up with the gay messaging about this gay ceasefire
Are the Iranians sending anyone to Islamabad today, or tomorrow, or not at all?
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>>533537524
Yes, massive reversal, water is returning all over Iran, some floods were reported in the north East, water filled clouds are back, temperature changed drastically.
Weather weapons are real, silent and dangerous. It’s another war crime to add to zog’s offenses, as per the UN resolutions it’s strictly forbidden.
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>>533537640
Unironically yes lol, the majority of people join the military to blow shit up and/or pay for college. Then they think about maybe going into something else with a security clearance and vet status after they're out as well. It's a good deal if you weren't shipped into one of those bases around Iran.
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>>533537744
This literal nigger is the biggest bullshitter of any /pig/ thread.
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>>533537580
turkey has massive geostrategic value to europe, israel only has political and economic value which it keeps fucking up with all these wars. i think turkey would come before israel in this scenario.
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>>533532771
Please let this happen to hasten Israel's destruction
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I WAS PROMISED F-14 KINO
WHERE IS MY F-14 KINO? REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>533537221
you mean against the only people that are figthing for the sunni muslims of gaza? more like jewmmha lol
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>>533537580
the only anons that say stuff like you are all memeflags.
there is also a kekistani flag that always says the same shit like you.
and he says shit like
>do the needful
thinking he is a convincing operator.
>>533404194
>They just need to kick Turkeys door in and it will collapse. Decapitation strike, coup, color revolution whatever, and its done. If not Trump and the secret alliance with the Greeks will do the needful, the Turkish military is well known for its frailty.

lose that memeflag man. you are not convincing anybody.
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>>533537667
BY A LOT!
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>>533537744
a massive reversal hmm. how massive are we talking? like 2 mm rainfall which is a huge number?
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>>533537843
Dubaï is known for promoting cloud sneeding so it wouldn't be that far of a stretch to imagine them or the US using it to fuck over a country not that far from them
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Is every brown dead? War status?
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>- Iran's lead negotiator Ghalibaf has effectively declined any negotiations while the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports is still in effect.
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>>533538460
The Americans and Sephardics? No not yet unfortunately
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THE LION RETURNS
>inb4source
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>>533538152
all I'm saying is Israel is hunting you all one by one.
and you keep thinking "it will never happen to me because..."
its not a pretty situation to be in, no doubt
but for the USA israel is the most important thing.
its not rational, its not logical. but it is.
the world is in denial.
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>>533537524
Why are you asking a Schizo? leave them alone to ACK- when the weather returns to shit in the summer, this is the rainy season in Iran if the USA had the ability to control the weather don't you think Russia would be a desert by now? along with China and North Korea?
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>>533538518
>36 hour flight for nothing
JD bros...
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>>533538609
There is some famous clip of Gadaffi saying exactly that to all those arab kings, and presidents including Assad. They didn't take him seriously, and some were even loling. Dumb cucks.
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>>533532824
Hormussy
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>>533538660
>>533537707
so.... is that a "no"?
no meeting in Islamabad?
>>533537952
who ever promised you such a thing?
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>>533537843
>>533538442
You can make it rain with cloud seeding but there's no way to prevent it yet, unless they're prematurely making clouds that would head into Iran rain, but manipulation on this scale would require dozens of specialized planes
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>>533538609
>Israel is hunting you all one by one
What is the end game?
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>>533538797
https://youtu.be/W6syr1tjbgA?si=gE6uhnOzDXzzzwxD
super famous clip but it was deceptively edited to make it look like Assad was laughing at Qaddafi which was not exactly true
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>>533538660
Fuck I love AI.
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>>533532062
>$166 billion in tariff refunds to companies
>companies raised prices under tariffs
>taxpayers paying the tariffs twice
>plane tickets 50% more expensive
It's ok, I didn't need the money anyways.
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>>533538902
>What is the end game?
every country within 2000km of tel aviv is either a Libya tier shithole or ethnically cleansed and turned into greater Israel
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>>533538518
I don't get what's going on here. On one hand, Iran is rejecting negotiations, while on the other they're reopening their airports and airspace. Surely they wouldn't do that if they knew the war was going to start again in a day or two.
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>>533538518
What’s stopping the US from pretending to lift the blockade for a few weeks to let stuck ships through for market relief, and then going back to business as usual? It seems like Iran doesn’t even plan to keep Hormuz closed forever.
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>>533538936
Full movie
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>>533538918
well he didn't took Gaddafi seriously, and now is a prisoner in russia. Anyway, those cucked arabs monarchs think they are safe lol.
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TOTAL TRUMP VICTORY
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>>533539098
true.
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>>533532062
>Fars and Tasnim: Iran still has not confirmed they will attend the new round of talks in Pakistan
so they're attending aren't they?
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How many truthsocial meltdowns do we need per day
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>>533539231
Ghalibaf just tweeted to the effect that they would not
I am just going to stop paying attention and I think maybe not open /pig/ until I hear about more missiles flying
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>>533538638
I'm just teasing him. I think the simplest explanation for low rainfall in Iran is global warming.
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wait so if this yellow line is Israel's "new security border", does that mean they advanced to it? or they're just handwaving and saying they control it defacto now?
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>>533539268
the pump&dump will continue until morale improves
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>>533538638
>it will happen when the weather cools
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This is the gayest war ever
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>>533532062
gonna need some salsa for the next trump melty, we’re at velveeta levels of melting down - a nice orange queso
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>>533538859
>who ever promised you such a thing?
Kek himself by granting the roller his digits
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>>533539351
It's what they wanted to conquer before the stop order came through. But they didn't manage before the ceasefire so now they're trying to will it into existence by shooting at civilians and anyone who is trying to return there.
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Looks like the melty count is at medium :) I gotta catch some sleep. Someone else bake!
cheers
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>>533539529
they didn't even get that far last time ffs
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>>533538797
He said it back in 1988 actually, nobody took his words seriously
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>>533539015
kek, directed by M Night Shamalamadingdong
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>>533539351
more like

“this is as far as we can get, so if we draw a line around the area we can just fill that in, instead of actually advancing”

can’t hold territory without boots, jews just sit inside merkavas and make a mad dash for APC’s when they change shifts

guarantee there’s a piss and shit bucket inside each tank
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>>533539351
>does that mean they advanced to it? or they're just handwaving and saying they control it defacto now?
Both things can be true at the same time if you're mentally ill enough.
Let me explain the joy of pilpul to you my high fructose corn syrup & textured vegetable protein fed friend.
Advanced to it = They drove there.
Do they "control" it?
No.
But they can drive to and from the line with only a mild chance of getting blown up.
God imagine if Vietnam never happened.
We'd have disentangled the Right from weirdo evangelicalism by now.
We'd be a genuine extra planetary species by now.
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>>533539015
ok, now THIS is kino. he's got my vote now
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What're the chances that something actually happens tomorrow? 10%?
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>>533539806
First of all, I eat all organic and very well; anyway I don't think they could even drive up to it lol, they were bogged down pretty hard before the ceasefire.
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>>533539846
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>>533539664
27 years later, they still don't learn. Those kings care more about hunting birds, expensive cars, and western slags.
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It sounds like Iran never really wanted peace in the first place. Sounds like they want to continue the war because they want to use some of their new tech
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>>533539933
they didn't because they were wining. But china pushed them to "negotiate", it only gave more air to zog.
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>>533540028
This, the amoral nation of China pushed Iran for a ceasefire because they get their oil from the gulf. But Iran still gave the chinese a warning their ships cannot pass either
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>>533539917
baltro is bestro
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>>533539933
Based galibaf
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>>533539933
He'll get over it.
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>>533539015
this was fucking great lmao
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Well boys I am getting the sand niggers. A few more nights and the sewers of Tehran will be full of glowing sandniggers eating each other after the blasts. I am giddy with excitement. The sand niggers will eat each other and the rats will finish off the remains. Sand nigger Kingdom will be the zombie apocalypse. Dead sand niggers everywhere. Glorious. Donald.
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>>533539664
need an edit like picrel
but it's not like i have a lot of good gadaffi pics in hand
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>>533540028
China needs time to make alternative plans and secure resources. Not sure how far they got.
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Mark Levin keeps cryint
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>>533532062
>▶Thread Theme: "HE'S A PIRATE" - PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ4KLpBRa8w
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>>533540269
>just 1000 more tomahawks and 800 more JASSM-ERs bros trust the plan
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News talking heads are saying that it will be clear by mid morning Islamabad time that if the negotiators are going to show up or not then apparently the ceasefire ends Tehran 12 midnight local time tomorrow. So seems like everyone is waiting and seeing. I have no clue what 10am Islamabad time that is for Eastern Daylight Time. Anyways it seems this time tomorrow everyone will have an answer either Trump Tacos again or not. I don’t think he will be very supportive of not striking if Iran refuses to show up to negotiations.
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>>533540395
China needs to wake up and realize they are coming for them too, and stop being such pussies.
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>>533538267
Way above previous averages.
>>533537843
We schizos are always right.
>>533538861
Spain have a system that dries up the clouds to prevent hail cloud formations on top of the wine fields. The technology exist and is pretty common, 60’s tech.
>>533538442
Indeed.
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>>533539933
I mean I hope you're right, but Iran has a habit of grandiose Wunderwaffe threats
There's no escaping the conclusion Iran's leadership has been far too naive expecting jew rats to negotiate in good faith ever
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>we have prepared to reveal new cards on the battlefield

I like how Iran is adopting Trump Speak
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>>533540545
China only cares about making money, it's just America but with a red flag and yellow people
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>>533540309
>but it's not like i have a lot of good gadaffi pics in hand
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>Russian economy collapsing
>Iran cucking out
>China doing nothing and losing
TOTAL AMERICAN VICTORY
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>>533540309
the man had to much drip for this world to contain
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>>533540309
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>>533540425
Ok so it looks we will know around 12am-2am east coast time tonight wither or not the Iranians negotiators are going to show up for talks.
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>>533540553
>There's no escaping the conclusion Iran's leadership has been far too naive expecting jew rats to negotiate in good faith ever
For now it’s the IRGC that calls the shots. The politics have no power or say on the decision making. Yes some Iranian politicians are real cucks like their President Pezeshkian, but the rest of Iranians are with the IRGC, there will not accept the blood of the Martyrs to be spelt in vain. It’s good thing that their politicians got no power in decision making right now. The IRGC will not concede an inch of their legitimate rights, and are ready to come back to fighting.
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>>533539351
Bint Jbeil status?
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>>533539379
>>533540722
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>>533539015
i demand a sequel
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>>533540729
>Blockade of Iranian ports = no talks in Pakistan or anywhere.
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>I advise US Vice President JD Vance to unpack his suitcases and not to head to Islamabad. With the current delusional and unrealistic demands and the continued naval blockade, no one in Tehran is willing to negotiate with him.

https://xcancel.com/s_m_marandi/status/2046334036923105761
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>>533540670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo
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>>533540712
He’s used to buy all his bitches special Rolex watches that gave them access to everywhere in Libya since they would know it was one of his bitches and nobody was to mess with her.
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>>533539664
>>533540688
>>533540712
he was quite handsome in an cavemannish way as a young man but he aged into some kind of weird orangutan lol
still miss him nonetheless
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>>533539933
>Sounds like they want to continue the war because they want to use some of their new tech
I really hope they built blackout bombs.
It's fairly straightforward but really effective tech (literally just a confetti cannon with wire spooled up tight) that'd increase the amount of infrastructure damage you can pump out per launch hundreds of times
Combined with saboteurs on the ground it'd make gulfies squeal.
You know what the real and true Achilles heel of those petrostates is?
Taking their ACs away.
Many people in Saudi Arabia essentially haven't ever been outside of a climate controlled environment when not in an emergency.
It's time to bring the pain.
I need to see sweat drenched shills fighting with natives over buckets of ice.
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>Iranian Parliament Speaker Ghalibaf:
>Trump, by imposing a siege and violating the ceasefire, seeks to turn this negotiating table— in his own imagination— into a table of surrender or to justify renewed warmongering.
>We do not accept negotiations under the shadow of threats, and in the past two weeks, we have prepared to reveal new cards on the battlefield.
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>>533540796
Ok well everyone still has to play by stated rules and tomorrow night Iran will resume getting its shit pushed in if they keep playing games and not showing up.
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>Pakistani mediators have conveyed messages to President Trump, warning against using strong public rhetoric and encouraging him to allow for the talks in Islamabad to appear as a “win-win” for Iran and the U.S., according to WaPo, citing a Pakistani official.
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would it be such a shame if trump dipped his toes in the water and killed at least 100 marines? come on trump, i know youre reading this. airdrop 50 marines on top of the uranium stronghold mountain with pickaxes, tripod laser and solar panels and tell them to get dig down. put 25 at entrance/exit of the mountain and airdrop a bunker for them to bunker in. all it would cost is 100 lives and it very well could get uranium
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>>533540964
the ones playing games are the Americans, who are in turn having their leashes yanked by their Israeli masters
the Iranian preconditions for a meeting haven't changed since the ceasefire was declared
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>>533540688
do you perhaps have something like an official portrait? otherwise i'll use one of these
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>>533540729
>Ok so it looks we will know around 12am-2am east coast time tonight wither or not the Iranians negotiators are going to show up for talks.

there arent going to be negotiations...there is nothing to negotiate..
it will be the US regurgitating the same exact maximalist israeli demands that are tantamount to the erasure of the Iranian state, which is an obvious 'non-starter' right off the bat.

no matter what, no amount of civilian collective punishment will achieve US demands, so im really not sure what Trump thinks hes going to accomplish going back to the
>"im going to kill off your civilization"
talking point other than creating zinger clips for bloodthirsty isreali domestic media who absolutely eats shit like that up
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>>533540997
>Even the Pakis are sick of the schizo tweeting
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>>533540997
the Pakis are clearly desperate to make this meeting happen, they keep begging for it and wishcasting it through western news outlets
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>>533540709
maybe he should just end the war and sell oil
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>>533540737
Yes, the IRGC is calling the shots and has been since Khamenei's murder, so this ceasefire would never have happened without its fiat. Massive blunder contradicting Iran's entire strategic doctrine
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>>533540964
>tomorrow night Iran will resume getting its shit pushed in if they keep playing games and not showing up.
By all means we all want to see dead zogbots and destroyed wunderwaffen F-15’s F-16’s. Seeing Juden Wunderwafen sending 7700 messages Squawking to base is how zog fighter jets should fly on a daily basis. Iran made it happen. We all wish the hostilities restart. Remember you are LOSING this un-justified dirty war.
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>>533541068
just search yandex that where i found those
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>>533541103
if unable to achieve US demands, Israel will settle for mass destruction of iranian infrastructure. and they don't seem to mind if gulfcuck infrastructure also gets destroyed in the process, or their own for that matter
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>>533540545
China's goal is to be the middle kingdom, the center of the world. Not in the way America is but in a natural way.
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>>533540964
>Ok well everyone still has to play by stated rules and tomorrow night Iran will resume getting its shit pushed in if they keep playing games and not showing up.

what does this even mean you faggot kike nigger?
how does collectively punishing Iranian civilians achieve even ONE of the stated israeli/US goals?


if the US bombing Iran was going to produce victory, it would have never stopped
>it will never produce victory
which is why we are here

so please.
in your demented kike brain, explain how "Pushing in Iranian civilians shit"
produces tangible victory
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>>533540553
>>533541142
it's not clear from the outside that the ceasefire benefitted the USraelis more than it benefited the Iranians from a tactical perspective
yes, the USraelis had a chance to move in additional cruise missiles and interceptors, but the Iranians have had the chance to redeploy their air defense network and excavate missile launch sites with damaged entrances. in the meantime the strait remained closed which is the lynchpin of the defense plan. I don't think it's fair for us to call it a blunder.
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>>533541223
>if unable to achieve US demands, Israel will settle for mass destruction of iranian infrastructure. and they don't seem to mind if gulfcuck infrastructure also gets destroyed in the process, or their own for that matter

there is no way the rest of the planet accepts the consequences this will induce, just so jews can have a suicidal tempertantrum

south east asia, India and various other countries are struggling majorly already. if jews flip the whole table over, its not going to work out for them in any 'future' sense
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>>533540964
miga, drumpfer begged for a cisfire, keep the delulu that iran will get recked though.
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>>533541254
This is actually the US coming for them, but it isn't working out. It may be too late for America's planned energy wars to upend China's rise
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>>533541111
Checked.
>>533541118
They want to make “history” and war is bad for business. They dont want to be forced to drop a nuke on israel and get nuked back. So they really want to de-escalate all this.
>>533541142
I think the cease fire happened because they genuinely thought Trump would back off and he was about to, until the kikes started seething and probably threatened him again not to cave in which blown the negotiations. Some reports said, Vance was going to accept the Iranian deal then at the 11th hour, Kushner got a phone call and sabotaged the whole negotiations by asking unrealistic demands again.
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>>533540997
If that was true it would mean Iran wants to cuck out but keep the Izzat points. Similarly how they did it year ago when they just send 1 drone to crash in a field after america bombed them.
If Iran keeps the strait closed and does not surrender i will become #1 Iran supporter but if they do, then what happened to them was deserved and a payment for cowardice.
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>>533541357
the ceasefire was a direct indiciation that israel an the US are in major deep shit.
if yet more bombing of Iran was capable of delivering victory on even a single stated goal, it would have never stopped.

it will never produce victory, and israel is failing unimaginably in lebanon, and as a result is at a point of national crisis, so they are forcing the US to invade now, not later, not more deadlines, but like now (today) type now, or else netanyahus coalition wont last the month
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Have you said thank you yet?
>True God status: confirned!
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>>533541415
>will get
They already did get wrecked. Multiple times even, LMAO
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>>533537843
I used to think the same about holocaust deniers.
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>>533541516
the fact they already destroyed our bases in the region has been enough to be considered a resounding win. Everything else is just icing on top.
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>>533541481
>until the kikes started seething and probably threatened him again not to cave in which blown the negotiations. Some reports said, Vance was going to accept the Iranian deal then at the 11th hour, Kushner got a phone call and sabotaged the whole negotiations by asking unrealistic demands again.

any ceasefire or end of hostilities that is not Iran a completely failed state, and the uranium retrieved and on parade like a soccer trophy in tel-aviv will never, under any circumstance be permitted by israel or the israeli lobby in the US. period. the end

israel will NEVER let the US off hook untill BOTH of those things happen
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>>533541540
How are they failing in Lebanon? I just know they're occupying the south and desecrating Jesus. Give me the good news about the jew rats failing because unless they get exterminated and forced out of the country entirely, the damage they've already done is catastrophic for the people there.
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>>533541357
Fair enough, I'm only speaking on the strategic level. There's no doubt this ceasefire is and alway was in direct opposition to what has been the centerpoint of Iran's grand strategy for over four decades
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>>533541571
Sure miga, so wrecked drumpfer begged they cisfire.
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>>533540688
there you go
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>>533539664
>He said it back in 1988 actually
Nasser said it in 1960 to be fair
And Hitler back in the 1930s
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>>533541067
>>533541103
I know that Satanyahu masterminded this clusterfuck. The point is the stalemate can’t continue and something has to break it. I don’t like it, it’s just going to be tons of suffering and dead people which is where this is headed. The only feasible option is carpet bomb all the Iranian controlled islands in the strait and then probably anything moving within 100 miles of their coast line in the narrow part of the strait.
>>533541185
We’re not losing anything. Iran is just bluffing like Thridies do and trying to get Trump to really go in and if we do put boots on the ground we actually will completely destroy their infrastructure power/water everything before we put boots on the ground when they’re literally having soldiers and civilians killing each other in the streets for literal survival. Then we most likely do a Guantanamo Bay style taking of the Iranian islands and 100 miles or so buffer from the coast in the narrow parts of the straits… Iran can easily get completely BTFO if we really commit to it, which is what has been holding Trump back instead of just just putting the tip in, when Iran has already shot their biggest load closing the strait.

Of course you think the USA is losing because you’re also the retard who believes your government has a satellite that can see gold deposits in the ground or gold stores through buildings…
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>>533541479
They can surely slow them down but at a tremendous cost for the world. However in the long term that just helps China because it makes them the good guys.
Don't underestimate them though, they are still an empire and will do anything to keep it.
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>>533541681
I don't see how. le strait is le closed. 2 more weeks of global oil shortage with no missiles launched at Iranian targets is basically free time for the Iranians who have time on their side in the 3-9 month timeframe
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>>533541661
>How are they failing in Lebanon? I just know they're occupying the south and desecrating Jesus. Give me the good news about the jew rats failing because unless they get exterminated and forced out of the country entirely, the damage they've already done is catastrophic for the people there.
the litani river was not reached, they are facing major Hezbollah resistance, and the domestic reality that they will never annex some security zone has already set in domestically in israel, which is why they are forcing the US into the boots-on-the-ground invasion in Iran.

israel is domestically imploding at a speed that is now reached cataclysm, thus
israel is demanding Trump turn Iran into a humanitarian crisis zone, which they believe will prevent he IRGC from repelling the US occupation of Isfahan where they believe the uranium is. (and other sites)

israel must have some kind of 'victory' THIS WEEK in Iran or the entire netanyahu regime is going to collapse and drag the country with it
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>>533541516
>If Iran keeps the strait closed and does not surrender i will become #1 Iran supporter but if they do, then what happened to them was deserved and a payment for cowardice.
Iran has no choice but to be strong and enforce the closing of the Hormuz, and if the US keeps its blockade they will have to start shooting at their ships. Iranian channels are right now talking about the necessity to send 100 to 200 missiles at every one US navy ship to be certain to sink it and overwhelm their strike group air defenses. I believe if zog is stubborn with this blockade then this line of events is going to happen very shortly.
Not only remaining strong in closing the straight but also demanding full reparations and restoring their rights, off sanctions and nuclear enrichment, the only thing they said they would negotiate on is the % of enrichment, they are willing to dilute the 60% to lower concentrations. Period. All other points are not negotiable. And the cuck politicians have no say, so I think this time no cucking.
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>>533541735
>the point is the stalemate can’t continue and something has to break it. I don’t like it, it’s just going to be tons of suffering and dead people which is where this is headed. The only feasible option is carpet bomb all the Iranian controlled islands in the strait and then probably anything moving within 100 miles of their coast line in the narrow part of the strait.

no amount of bombing will change anything or produce any 'victory' or the bombing would have never stopped in the first place

israel is in complete implosion after the failure of the lebanon campaign
its actually over for them if the US doesnt buy time by staging some huge land invasion now now now now, which is what israel demands
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>>533541118
Current paki is effectively an american vassal state, the survival of their regime depends on being in USA good books.
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>>533541735
I don't think you've been following the progression of the conflict closely if you think the USA can "carpet bomb" 100 miles inland from the coast in such a way that the strait would become open.
if you're forecasting American military victory you need to be predicting one of two things
1. Iranian morale collapse and surrender
2. massive ground invasion
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>>533541653
>israel will NEVER let the US off hook untill BOTH of those things happen
Im afraid this is true.
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>>533541481
I agree, something like that appears to have happened. Iran has been far too trusting of the jew rats running the US, which is probably baked into their general idealistic and moralizing world view, but the fact remains it's been a strategic blunder
The jew world order really didn't deserve this breather and I can't see how it may have benefited Iran strategically (tactically, sure, maybe)
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>>533541645
>destroyed our bases in the region has been enough to be considered a resounding win
wrong, the US's plan is to rebuild those bases in Israel. this will make it impossible for the US to ever decouple from Israel.
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>>533541735
>Iran is j-just bluffing
lole
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>>533541900
Read where I replied to the retard where the bombing would take place first then put boots on the ground to secure the area and control the area Guantanamo Bay style.
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>>533541853
>% to lower concentration
what was that story about giving it to china?
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>>533541735
>By all means send your boots on the ground, it will be an excursion right, too easy, Iran is already in shambles, boom boom power plants, boom boom water systems, that’s it we are winning, those muzzies are big mouth no action.
You still have not understood the nature of a Persian. PUT YOUR BOOTS ON THE GROUND I WANT TO SEE DEAD ZOGBOTS. I DEMAND THIS.
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>>533541357
How long could you guys even feed your military with the strait closed. Sure, there would be no problem if that was just oil for ships and planes, but on top of that and your own civilian needs, you'd also have to sell what you produce to, in Trump's words: "hundreds of ships now going to America"
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>>533541812
the only other thing they could have done is destroy every GC refinery but that would have united the world in revenge before the lights turn out

This way gives them a chance at legitimacy
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>>533541653
It's funny how Trump seemed to be desperaly trying to get out of the war to save the midterms but Israel keeps holding him there.
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>>533541932
>how it may have benefited Iran strategically
Iran's trump card was closing the strait. this ceasefire never opened the strait. so Iran could still keep economic pressure on while not fearing any retaliation. this is a strategic win.
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>>533541915
>israel will NEVER let the US off hook untill BOTH of those things happen
>Im afraid this is true.

its the flat out bottom line

there is no scenario where the US is allowed by israel to exit this conflict without turning Iran into a humanitarian disaster zone.

the bloodthirsty maniac people of israel were promised this, and will put netanayahus head on a literal stick if this is not one of the outcomes.
to israel, so long as Iran is a smoldering gaza-like hellscape, the failure to retrieve the uranium can be forgiven by the sheer scale of human carnage and most importantly the 'images of it' israel can parade and gloat and celebrate as 'total victory' despite failing every single other objective.

as long as israel can sell to its people that Iranians have been slaughtered the war will be considered a 'win' even though 'greater israel' was largely shut down forever as a result of all of this
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>>533542016
they said their nuclear material will remain in Iran, but are ready to reduce the concentration to 5%. No one talked about China or sending to China. They are solid about keeping it locally.
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>>533542112
>this ceasefire never opened the strait.
which is funny considering it's been claimed to be open, about to open, really easy to open, and irrelevant about a hundred times during the conflict lol
irmão why you switch to memeflag
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>>533542006
>Read where I replied to the retard where the bombing would take place first then put boots on the ground to secure the area and control the area Guantanamo Bay style.

I SAY AGAIN, if US bombing of ANYWHERE in Iran was capable of producing a 'victory condition' of any kind, it would have never stopped in the first place


the bombing stopped
its achieving nothing, at increased risk to US air-assets
the only possible way for the US to exit this conflict is via negotiation.
israel will never allow this,
and the choice was made for the US to cause a humanitarian disaster as a screen for ground invasion forces to seize isfahan.

this is what his happening
period
the end
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>>533541966
They’re making the calculation that Trump won’t actually fully commit and put boots on the ground but there’s really no other option to secure the strait since Iran has lots of short range missles but 100 miles inland severely disrupts their ability to control the strait.
>>533542044
A lot more Persians will die and it’s already been war gamed that there’s Pakistan ports that can serve as rear operating bases. For full support of taking the strait and holding it.
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>>533542215
just reread the story, china offered that is all
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/china-steps-in-on-iran-s-enriched-uranium-1776472658.html
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>>533541735
How the fuck did Miggerism become worse than Communism
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>>533542108
>It's funny how Trump seemed to be desperaly trying to get out of the war to save the midterms but israel keeps holding him there.

he made a deal with literally satan (israel) they demanded Iran be a failed state as a condition to 'exit' the war....he did not deliver, and they arent going to let him out without him putting the US boots on the ground. the US israeli lobby wont let him either
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>>533542264
>Ukrainian source
Bro even kike sources are more reliable source than hohols. I have not read that anywhere, only this hohol link you just shared
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>>533542282
>How the fuck did Miggerism become worse than Communism

miggerism at its core is militant judaism,
and in the 21st century, it has global consequences, not just localized ones
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>>533541766
I think the greedy jew rats who enabled China's rise were fully convinced they could strangle China into submission by energy warfare just like they had Japan back in the day
>>533541812
Yeah, this must have been Iran's calculation as well. It's still taken a lot of bearish momentum from world markets, but there are a lot of hidden costs at play here, for the US to pretend it's just a flesh wound by manipulating markets
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>>533542282
miggers probably have a plan to supply a couple of hundred million people with 2 liters of water per day, right?
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>>533541047
There's just about 0.0% chance they'd get any uranium, but all 100 would die, and Trump absolutely should do this for the laughs.
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>>533542244
Isfahan is a second thought, opening the strait is more important for world stability… The uranium in Isfahan is buried and Iran has no way of accessing it even now and won’t have anytime in the near future. If we take the strait and plunge them into a true humanitarian crisis then if a new government arises or militia overthrows the IRGC they would most likely love handing the enriched uranium back as a peace offering.

We are not going to do a inland invasion hundreds of miles inland in to try to get enriched uranium that is buried where the logistics of even digging to it would take months…
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>>533539379
Till Morale Improves.
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>>533542282
I’m not a migger dipshit anyone with a brain can see something has to give…
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>>533537640
If you don’t want to kill sandniggers with explosives, you’re not white.
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>>533532771
>let’s blow up the country selling us oil and supplies
Very believable
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>>533532062
threads slow af, gonna walk the dogs with the wife and buy fresh budderino

this day is so weird in colorado, all normies are baked but also angry cuz’ hitler and sad ‘cuz columbine

happy 4/20 bros

tee hee HH o/
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>>533542370
are you aware that china polluted its water in the name of proving goods to westerners. and a people's vital energy is limited and they used all their energy on simply providing goods for white pigs. the reason why english and german dominate the western hemisphere is because theyre a people who wisely use their energy while the french are quarantined in quebec cuck land. china has absolutely no vital energy simply an elite who are lookign down upon masses who are spent, exhausted, used up like your sister after the football team invited her to the lockerroom
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>>533541735
it's astounding how miggers somehow think us troops will be somehow invulnerable to drones and short range missiles and artillery in an age where tanks are already obsolete
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>>533542505
If you think 'taking the Strait' is even a practical possibility, you obviously don't know what you're talking about (if that wasn't clear from your 'unreachable underground complex nonsense, kek)
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>>533542258
>A lot more Persians will die
In a dirty war, imposed on your people it’s called Martyrizing them.
Iranians are in the business of Martyrdom, their whole Shia Islam is all around that, since Hussein was made a Martyr which caused the whole sect of Shia to created within Islam. You are threatening them with good times. They all wish to be Martyrs.
>t’s already been war gamed that there’s Pakistan ports that can serve as rear operating bases. For full support of taking the strait and holding it.
If you trust Pakis, then you deserve to fertilize the Persian shore lines. Pakistan is for now playing both side, in theory they should be siding with Iran, but only for the sake of de-escalation they are showing you their friendly face. India and israel are working together against Pakistan, do you really thing Pakistan will side with the same party that is possessed by israel ? Never happening.
It is clear that zog and the mutts are unaware of cultural affinities and implicite alliances in West Asia. No matter what they tell you they will band together when push comes to shove.
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>>533542282
When they talk like retards, no one knows they’re Jewish bots
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>>533542560
What if I'm more repulsed by nigs, spics, and mutts because I see them in my city every day, so I'd rather see them die?

>>533541047
By the way, it's important to say, the probability of genetic defects in the base population is about 2% and 6% in first-cousin marriage. If you cousin is cute enough, it's worth the risk.
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>>533541853
It’s going to get fucking WILD if they manage to sink even some shitty little 1970s frigate, let alone cruisers and carriers. I really don’t know what will happen if American ships start being sent to Davy Jones locker. The great Satan might indeed sperg out and start using nukes. Jesus Christ.
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>>533542137
>as long as israel can sell to its people that Iranians have been slaughtered the war will be considered a 'win' even though 'greater israel' was largely shut down forever as a result of all of this
??
where do you see any isreali opposition? there's no need to sell anything
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>>533542480
i predict that if you were to airdrop a bunker in front of an entrance/exit of the uranium mountain and put marines in it neither side would be able to kill each other. i wouldnt trust 50 marines to be able to keep up teh energy and focus to shoot down drones with a laser turret though though considering how degen the army is
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>>533542625
As incoherent as 'muh vital energy' sounds, this is a new and original angle of American cope and you deserve credit for that
At least you didn't go muh demographic collapse muh ghost cities muh escalators of death etc
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>>533542625
they've long since handled their pollution problems
90% of them own their own homes and they have significant savings
you're completely out of the loop
meanwhile in america the middle class is disappearing the lower class has to use the gig economy to make ends meet
the hedge fund jews are thriving though, so there's that
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>>533542638
I never said that, of course there will be a lot of deaths… I’m not celebrating Trump I fucking hate how he did a complete 180 on his OG supporters.
>>533542639
Taking the strait is completely do able if you’re willing to kill a lot of your own troops, which I actually hate the idea of.
>>533542670
Pakistan has been a vassal state of the USA since the fucking 80’s, it’s glow nigger central.
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>>533542670
>Pakistan will side with the same party that is possessed by israel
you are a retard bro. pakistan has a strategic defense agreement with the ksa who are paying their bills. and the ksa is all in on destroying iran. that iran will even go to negotiations in pakistan shows how desperate and defeated they actually are. this shit was over a long time ago.
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>>533542886
taking the strait would require occupying all of the surrounding coastlines and mountains
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>>533542812
the irony is that people who are aware they have limits are the people who are without limits and the people who dont think they have limits are the people who have limits (and are a danger to their counterpart. this is encapsulated in the concept nietzsche reintroduced to the educated western man with the dionysus apollo. its like the relationship a man and woman have. the both chase each other in an endless circle and the results could be either catastrophe or godly
>>533542819
look up nobel prizes (not counting fake ones like peace prie) if you care enough to spend 30 minutes on it. chinese in america are way more successful than chinese in china. this is because china is a culture without morals of any kind so the air, food and especially the water is poison. the healthiest chinese are prob the tibet living in south west china and if china was smart they'd let them inherit china but the chinese will simply live in squalor and perish under an ever growing japanese influence in the region
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>>533542723
Ex-glownigger already said that Orange migger really wanted to use nukes this last Saturday, here >>533537130 the Air Force General stopped it
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>>533542886
>Taking the strait is completely do able if you’re willing to kill a lot of your own troops,
You do realize 'taking the Strait' has to include 'making it safe for civilian traffic' to be meaningful strategically, and that isn't possible with troops dying en masse?
There's simply no way securing that Strait as long as there's even a sliver of resistance in Iran
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>>533538442
I’m not into anime but this gave me a red rocket
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>>533542992
They went into Pakistan with maximalist demands, just allowing a diplomatic option doesn't really say much of anything. There was a lot of that early on in the Ukraine war.

>>533543063
Nobel is complete joke, don't waste my time with that shit. Go look at actual patents.
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Migrate
>>533543185
Migrate
>>533543185
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>>533543198
im forced to settle for something compromised until a competitor award program for accomplishments is made and becomes well established
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So, how much is tomorrow's oil futures short squeeze going to throw a wrench in Trump's war plans?
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>>533542992
>ksa is all in on destroying iran
Zog propaganda, KSA is trying to de-escalate lately.
>pakistan has a strategic defense agreement with the ksa
True but Pakistan would only move if israel is attacking KSA. They would not move against Iran, as they know if Iran falls, they are next.
>iran will even go to negotiations in pakistan shows how desperate and defeated they actually are
Well you are the one looking desperate your delegation went to Pakistan while Iran delegation have not moved from Iran. Who is in hurry for a deal ? It’s zog.
>this shit was over a long time ago.
Face it zogbot, you lost. Everyone is witness.
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>>533543043
I said there would have to a probably 100 mile buffer zone surround the coasts that remains in our control like Guantanamo Bay.
>>533543102
The sa,e thing that prevents us from doing a proper land invasion into southern Iran is the same thing that would prevent them from sending troops or resupply lines… The super treacherous mountain ranges that would stop it. Any troop movement or resupply lines would instantly become another highway of death for Iran trying to get there.
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>>533543244
that wont happen until the world decides they should all play nice with eachother so basically never
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>>533543063
I like your thought process anon, and I too admire Geburt der Tragoedie as the only Nietzschean work worth reading, but you're wrong on China, especially its technological and scientific advances the past decade, which are quite stunning
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>>533543327
You might need fortifications in the mountains themselves which sounds like an impossible nightmare
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>>533543327
That would perhaps hold water if Iran hadn't been preparing for precisely this war for decades. Just look at Qeshm island's underground bases and hideaways stashed to the brim with weaponry and every tool in the box for asymmetric sabotage ops
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>>533543526
Not so much but just use the mountains as a natural fortification themselves. Only so many passes and any convoy would be blown to pieces before even getting started up the mountains.
>>533543615
It would definitely be whack a mole for a while but doable.
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>>533543615
That’s also said why we would Capet bomb those islands and physically take them then it doesn’t matter
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>>533543308
>looking desperate
the US is genuinely seeking peace. unlike the iranians who are randomly opening fire on indian ships. we can afford to be gracious since we have total dominance. peace would be much better. destroying irans infrastructure is a total waste, but if they dont come to their senses, the US will do it without hesitation.
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>>533543804
KEK
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>>533542282
>How the fuck did Miggerism become worse than Communism
Gefreiter Hans, es ist lang nach ihrer Bett Zeit. Bitte begeben sie sich schnell und leise zurück in ihre Baracke. Morgen werden wir ihre unangemessenen Aussagen bezüglich Israel noch einmal vollständig besprechen.
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>>533543755
so would your supply lines, and they know those mountains like the back of their hands. would be buzzing with drones constantly.



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