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— NEW: Iran's Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei has given the green light for the Iranian delegation to depart to Islamabad for talks with the U.S., according to Axios.> — NEW: Iran's Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei has given the green light for the Iranian delegation to depart to Islamabad for talks with the U.S., according to Axios.OH NO NO NOIRAN CAVED AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhttps://t.me/tabzlive/80630
Seems like the Iranians were all talk when they said no 2nd round negotiations lol
fafo
So excited for tacos tomorrow :)
>>533550422Probably buying time for April 22Time favors Iran not US
— Vice President JD Vance is expected to depart for Islamabad by Tuesday morning for talks with Iran, Axios reports.https://t.me/tabzlive/80631So that plane going back was bullshit he didn't even fly there yet kek>- The Supreme Leader of Iran, Mojtaba Khamenei has given the green light for the Iranian negotiation team to head to Pakistan. >JD Vance will attend on behalf of the US team, alongside President Trumps' envoys, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner.https://t.me/rnintel/59541Iran caved lel
>>533550364>AxiosI sleep
FUCK ISRAEL
>>533550422>OsintDefenderliterally mossad lies all day
>>533550668Digits say they will and never go to war again
>>533550575 #Can Cheech and Chong secure a deal this round?
>>533550364>Axios
>>533550779Sorry for deleting
So we're definitely getting an announcement of a deal that the US team negotiated with empty space and air later right?
>>533550364>Axios, All I needed to see.
>>533550815No worries, fren. I’m here for migger cope
>>533550858Vance needs to get in a plane first
>>533551049>Vance gets in the plane>we are not negotiating anymore>plane goes back>alright we are willing to talk >Vance gets back in the plane>we are not negotiating anymore
Where is JD?
IRANNY IS DONEKEKKNEEL TO AMERICA AND ISRAELS MIGHT THIRDIE FAGGOTS
>>533551144kek, they should do itis like a hour flight for them anyway
>>533550858Never. This will be America’s Ukraine because neither side will capitulate
>>533551171
>>533551171you said this literally every day of the war
>>533551171hormussy status?
One more sleep until more boom boom Tel Aviv.
Current analysis is that shit is about to hit the fan soon for priceshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f353QO5Dgus
>>533551236Want two more nooks, gook?>>533551249Future colonies need not speak, jeet.>>533551255Emu war status?
>>533551255Post those amelia memes please
>Iranian officials have expressed significant concerns that ongoing ceasefire negotiations with the United States could be a "trap" designed to lure senior leaders into the open for assassination.>Tehran reportedly fears that face-to-face talks in locations like Pakistan or Turkey are a ruse to draw out high-ranking figures, such as Parliamentary Speaker Mohammad-Bagher Ghalibaf, for targeted strikes.>In a related move, the IRGC recently warned American tech firms like Microsoft, Google, and IBM to leave the region, accusing them of providing intelligence that facilitates these targeted killings.They want to kill the negotiators
>>533551327Yeah do one over Okinawa, lets fix the American soldier pedo rape problem once and for all
>>533550364>AxiosThough I wouldn't be surprised if the Cuckmenei curse hit. Sometimes I wish Larijani was still alive
>>533551381Of course they do, they're jews
>>533551327you couldnt even occupy aghanistan migger, everyone hates you here
Negotiations should be held in tehran if trump wants to negotiate. Iran can put more pressure idk why they dont do it
>>533550364>Real in my mind
>>533551488digits confirm
>>533551381WaPo literally published an article calling for the negotiators to get killedIt's unreal mask off stuffhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/04/08/ceasefire-deal-iran-us-israel-war-trump/
>>533550575>18 hour flight>Will depart after ceasefire ends>Thinks he isn't already departedI hate you people so much.
>>533551510Flight number you schizo?
>>533551650>Still can't comprehend that's the planeDumbest retard round 2
>>5335513816 israeli cell phones present at charlie kirk assassination were in islamabad during the last negotiations there.They probably have it all figured out and are hoping to lure them in for round 2.
>>533551208The regime might as well negotiate and give up the nukes. They’re pointless anyways if the US can never invade them. The American people will never have the political will for it again. Better for the regime to survive and continue focusing on anti-aircraft weapons, cruise missiles, anti-ship missiles, financing Hezbollah and Hamas, and cheap drones than waste time on nukes
Everyone, give Hormuz your energy!ULTIMATE KIKE-SLAVE DEATH!
>>533551255Big beautiful blockade.
>>533551708We're in the golden age of the cruise missile and the bunker. And painfully relearning Yugoslavia's lesson that strayegic airpower is actually dogshit at achieving political goals, even with PGMs.
>>533551777Does that open the pool?
>>533551735\o/
>>533551848In migger minds.
>>533551677I asked what the flight number isYou've got the screenshotShow us the flight number
>>533551708Its the only thing which can detter a future us or israeli attack. Or maybe they can do like the israelis and get a nuke behind closed doors, but thats unlikely
https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/2046396880670584987Iran gives the green light to talk to Vance. War on hold another 24h. Maybe another week if Trump claims we got a deal.
>>533551708They don't have nukes. And you don't scare anyone.
>>533551892You are a dumb retard that is the plane retard. You are literally so fucking stupid that you cant understand that it's incredible.
>>533551892Part 2 of you being a full retard moron
>>533551922They give up nukes and Israel will start claiming biologicals
>>533551701> 6 israeli cell phones present at charlie kirk assassination were in islamabad during the last negotiations there.Oh wow, shaped explosive charges stuffed in the microphone again… I guess Lavrov tipped them since Aragchi and Lavrov had a talk earlier today, and cohencidentally 40 israeli spies were caught in Moscow airport in relation to the war on Iran… > They probably have it all figured out and are hoping to lure them in for round 2 Fits the kike’s modus operandi. Also they quickly arrived there in the hopes to set the traps in advance most likely.
>>533551708>give up the nukeswhat nukes? They're as real as Saddam's WMDs.
>>533551837Obama got lucky killing Gaddafi the way he did, even if it did end poorly for Libya and the Euro migrant crisis. Trump really thought he could pull it off again with Iran, and he realizes how badly he fucked up
WW3 confirmed>I have declared a national emergency under Executive Order 14156, and I further determine that action to expand the domestic petroleum production, refining, and logistics capacity is necessary to avert an industrial resource or critical technology item shortfall that would severely impair national defense capability. Therefore, pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, I waive the requirements of section 303(a)(1)-(a)(6) of the Act for the purpose of expanding such capability.https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/04/presidential-determination-pursuant-to-section-303-of-the-defense-production-act-of-1950-as-amended-on-domestic-petroleum-production-refining-and-logistics-capacity/
>>533551777Non-frens no pass.
>>533551892Part 3 of being a full retard moron. Shut the fuck from here on out for your own sake. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are too fucking dumb for this debate.
>>533551735AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>533551255born-again virgin
>>533552077what does this mean
>>533551922>Iran nukes Israel>Israel nukes IranNot sure what that achieves. Israel can’t invade, it’s only the US that’s a threat if they go balls to the wall and accept Vietnam tier casualties, which will never happen
>>533551708
>>533551924why would you believe he has a deal?what on earth would we give them that would get the oil flowing?the energy shock is coming no matter what
>>533552087Wait, why does the gun at the bottom has barrels on both sides of the gun?
>>533552193Because they are morons.
>>533552116I asked for the flight numberAlso known as the call signCan you do that for us all :^)
>>533552194AI hallucination, your autism revealed
>>533552238It's posted dumbass go back to coping. Glad you showed you got wrecked done last time before shutting the fuck hopefully for your own good.
>>533552077So we're digging ourselves in deeper into debt than the loss of revenue from the recession and Republicans spending like niggers like they always do and now a dose of Maga Maoism?I'm starting to understand why in the Roman Republic, it was customer for people that truly fucked up to kill themselves as an honorable way out.
>>533551255CLOSED
>>533552281Just write it down, whats the flight number/callsign of that flight to Prague and IslamabadI don't expect above 80 IQ from phoneposters but surely you can manage it with some help from grok or something
>>533552147Doing some of the shit he should have been doing months ago instead of the Maduro op that just spent billions, put a bunch of wear on ships, and achieved basically status quo ante.
>>533552193I agree with you, but that won't stop Trump from Truthing one out to keep his friends Polymarket bets going.
>>533552147It means the oil corps have a blank check to build all the refineries and pipelines they need to reduce reliance on middle east crude. It also means that federal lands are wide open for mining strategic materials.
— President Trump on Iran:As soon as we get them to no nuclear weapons in Iran, which is going to happen, I think, very quickly, actually—we've just decimated them—you're going to see prices drop. You're going to see energy come down like you've never seen it before. All these things are going to happen.After having the best economy in history. I said, "Well, we're going to have to take a little journey down to Iran."https://t.me/tabzlive/80632Trump: It's all gone. It's all gone.We are now controlling the Strait of Hormuz.They're losing $500 million a day by us blocking the Hormuz Strait.https://t.me/tabzlive/80633
>>533551255Sealed off for warmongers
Fancy Iran : https://x.com/iraninbulgaria/status/2046292407998877781?s=46
>>533551255hormussy so tight america is cockblocking for some reason
>>533550364https://www.presstv.co.uk/Detail/2026/04/20/767252/qalibaf-no-talks-under-threat-iran-prepared-reveal-new-cards-battlefield
>>533550350Niggers are not humans. This is the only philosophically consistent position.
>>533552598old, was made before the new breaking news talks confirmedhttps://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/31259
>>533552434Fancy Iran
>>533550350it is the obligation of all Americans to willingly die for the safety & security of Israel. Any hesitation to sacrifice your life for our greatest ally is vile anti-semitism.
>>533552744>Axios Nope. Not trusting kike source. Will wait on an Iranian source only to tell me what the Iranians will do
>>533552794>>533552850>dead americans >a price we are willing to pay
>>533552847>Mediators from Pakistan, Egypt, and Turkey reportedly pushed Iran to attend, with a final approval said to have been granted by Iran’s supreme leadership late Monday.https://t.me/wfwitness/90082It is confirmed
>>533552847They are coping hard at this point the flight left already is documented as returning to prague then will leave to us. Taco Tuesday.
>>533552994It is not.
>>533552744https://t.me/presstv/186396kike begon
>>533552994Taco Tuesday is here. Ahahaha
>>533550364Preparing for war for 40 years btw
>>533552794>>533552850
>>533553162it would be great if vance found out that iranians are cancelling negotations while he is up in the air. vance is like bad luck brian
>>533553329He already found out the flight log for air force 2 is up above. He was already there. miga is just coping beyond reality"Trump, by imposing a blockade and violating the ceasefire, seeks—in his own mind—to turn this negotiating table into a surrender table or to justify renewed warmongering. We do not accept negotiations under the threat of violence, and over the past two weeks we have prepared to play new cards on the battlefield."
>>533553136>>533553162>>533553439All those xeets were posted hours ago
>>533553537Because it was obvious hours ago you retard. Mine was like 1 hour ago. You will be fooled every time forever
>>533553537And? Has anything changed?
>>533553537I guess you're right, memeflag; Iran now communicates solely through the Jewish propaganda agency known as Axios. thanx!
>>533553439>>He already found out the flight log for air force 2 is up abovei found that convo hard to follow. you just posted garbage data while not sharing the flight number and bullying people to trust you and take your word for it
>>533553663According to Axios yes. And the last time things were similar, claims of not going until they went.
>>533553713The literal plane is up there. You people are unreal if you can't figure it out with that. A toddler could do it. I've never seen so many people struggle to look up airforce 2. It's mystical.
>>533553689Has Axios been found lying about what Iran says yet?>>533551701The source for this is a grifter posing as an expert on xitter, and he claims 4 not 6.
>>533553769Keep deflecting bullshitter
>>533553826Coping retard x3
>>533553769post the flight number enlightened one
>>533553713It was easy to follow and fun to watch the migger pilpul about the call signIt's funny how modern political discourse basically boils down to miggers pretending to not understand some basic concept
Vance is in WashingtonEveryone will know when he's on the move
>>533553877That's a plane not a call sign. It's only AF2 if the VP is on board.
So when the FUCK do they resume blowing up refineries and shit.
just got back from shitting in the street anything happening today...
>>533553928Soon™
>>533553877That's not the flight number you absolute braindead dumbfuckFor fucks sake
>>533552077>>533553962
>>533553877fucking retard
>>533554012Too little, too late. Tomorrow there's lots of futures contracts due for fulfillment.
>>533553928I got something you can blow if you're bored
Gem
>>533554098Cococococaine?
>>533554012what does it mean ??
>>533554128ur dick
>>533554040>Still coping Unreal levels.
>>533553928The miggers always forget that "bridge and powerplant day" = "pipelines refineries and desalination plants day". Trump is obviously too afraid to attack Iranian infrastructure again, because the damage already incurred in the gulf states exceeds acceptable limits.
>>533554149It has finally dawned on Trump that this is not a 4-day special combat operation.
>>533554149Transitioning into a full on war economy.The funny thing is he's saying that we're perfectly fine on oil as-is while also doing this on the down-low.
>>533553993>Ghalibaf told you to fuck off officially>We apparently house air Force 2 in Pakistan now because you are a retard>You are incapable of looking shit up even when spoon fedIt's just delusion retardation at this point. Never ceases to amaze me with your cope. It's funny you can't seem to find our presidents planes even to prove me wrong. Unreal even.
>>533554209i cant tell whether they are boosting domestic production in order to lower the prices or its because there is a supply shortfall
>>533554209>Transitioning into a full on war economy.Yeah, but the war is already lost. Unless he's planning to dump another $500b of deficit spending onto millenials and zoomers that will come due sooner than we want.
>>533554167https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/98-0001It landed 3 days ago, and there's nothing saying it did so as AF2. kys miggerfaggot.
>>533554382You will be coping tomorrow and the next day. Hilarious.
>>533554291i mean a lack of supply leads to raising prices, so increasing the supply keeps the prices suppressed, so...>>533554343it's worse than that, at this point the US needs to invade to get anything done in the region, and actually negotiating isn't something they can do without a deep international loss of face.So now it's meatgrinder time.
>>533554209>war economy>barely any steel production>barely any manufacturing left>30T in debtlmfao say hello to the end of pax judaica and amerikkka
>>533554480Yessir, tell that to the administration, they appear to not have gotten the memo.
>>533554448>t's worse than that, at this point the US needs to invadeThe time for that was D-Day+0. The energy crisis and munitions crisis means that the US will be consuming its own seed corn at increasingly greater expense to fundamentally not actually stop the Iranians from launching a Shahed into the strait to keep the tankers bottled up. It's joever.
>>533554418Last landed in Camp Springs. Maybe try not attempting to pass a pic from 2 weeks ago as recent next time.
>>533554592You will coping tomorrow and the next day. You can screenshot this and look it every time you are wrong. It is inevitable. you are a retard.
>>533550422Oh good Vance is given another thing to fuck up lawl
>>533554558That's the reality, and in a sane world I think we'd see a full US retreat from the area, as they should've never even gotten entrenched there in the first place.However, at this point it's either taking the lumps as they've come, which comes along with a staggering failure of the US empire on a global scale, leading to a burgeoning multi-polar world which is absolutely something the US does not want, or, slowly dragging out a bloody conflict by sacrificing it's citizens to squeeze the idea of being at the head of a hegemony on global power just a little bit more before it inevitably loses enough power that it's forced to retreat.That's just how things have played out here it seems.
>>533554857>what, no cope line this time?
>>533554713Mk well screenshot so I can't laugh at you harder.
>>533554883good riddance to us empire. good riddance.end scene.
>>533554883I think the American economy collapses before this can even turn into a quagmire, more than it already has from his poorly conceived trade war and the energy crisis he self inflicted.The 60-day timeline for the War Powers Act is coming up, and B*ssent is basically out of runway to manipulate the market to make things seem more normal than 50-60% gas price increases in red states over the last 6 weeks.
Overlord is watching.https://www.flightradar24.com/OVRLD02/3f51363a
>>533554857ben is a clown bro, total sellout
My favorite part of this conflict was when Trump announced that the USA had arms Kurdish groups but the weapons were stolen. It's so fucking funny because nobody would've known if he hadn't said anything. Trumps second term is such an epic disaster holy shit >From "you'd be in jail" and grab her by the pussy" >To "we won this war! It isn't a war! We already won though and that's why we're bombing them" and "the weapons were stolen.. lying people got the weapons.. makes me very angry I said "Life comes at you fast
I guess we'll have talks after all
>>533554247I've said it to you twice now, this will be the last timeAir force 2 - AF2 is a fucking call sign, not a planeFor sensitive missions like this Vance won't be using that, he'll be using a SAM call signYou keep doubling down on things you have no idea about The plane is irrelevant, the callsign is everything.
>>533555141Congress hasn't actually imposed on this war at any point, and I think they'll approve further actions. It's been talked up for decades at this point.And there's many tricks they can try to play to sell the illusion of normalcy for a while, for example, the EO he just signed and linked to above.But then when that won't work, there's plenty of tricks like super distractions, false flags, heavy social shaming, etc. to get the population on board with it.I don't know how long it can last before a total collapse, but the thing to keep in mind is that the powers that be don't want a -total- collapse, they want something they can control. And complete anarchy doesn't suit them particularly well.
>>533555372Last time they used IRAN01 AND IRAN02 for the delegationAlso they've opened their airports now
>>533554713https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/99-0004Landed in Prague from Islamabad
>>533551708When the have nukes they can negotiate to lift sanctions.Do you know that everytime North Korea is on the brink of food or energy crisis they'd just launch some missiles and then telling America and Japan to send aids or else?Iran could lift all of their economic sanctions by conducting just one successful nuclear test or they'd send their nuclear warheads to Tel Aviv
Ceasefire ends tom.Trump will bomb bridges in middle of "negotiations".
>>533555422>Congress hasn't actually imposed on this war at any pointTrump is within his rights to fuck around for 60-days, but like with Vietnam a sufficiently irritated Congress can defund it and end military operations. The WPR formalizes that process.>I think they'll approve further actions.It's certainly possible, even likely. But Trump seems to be signaling TACO by not mentioning specific demands in his latest Truth threats (although he could have issued demands since I last checked). We'll see how much Congress feels the hotseat as I expect gas prices to really spike as we come up on 60 days before they're supposed to come up with AUMF for continued action.>to sell the illusion of normalcyYou can't sell normalcy if there are odd-even gas rationing in the summer>But then when that won't work, there's plenty of tricks like super distractions, false flags, heavy social shaming, etc. to get the population on board with it.That's completely failed. There was no "rally around the flag" effect. I don't think they're capable of propagandizing the American people outside the shrinking MAGA cult into a war they've never really wanted.
>>533555596No it ends wednesday night DC time per Trump.
>>533555422If there is ONE thing democrats would team up with Trump for, it is to do the bidding of their jew overlords.
>>533555596the ceasefire expiring is a nothingburger, rockets aren't gonna start flying the second it expires. iran won't strike first because they're trying to play the diplomatic game and the US won't strike because they're waiting for more ships and supplies to reach the area. it'll probably be a cold war of nothing happening for a few days until the US is ready and restarts the war on friday after market close
>>533555695What happens in America retreats from the Middle East?Because it seems to me like Iran loses nothing from charging tolls and bombing Tel Aviv at this point.
>>533555057It doesn't need to even be the end of the empire. The thing the empire needed above all else was a pivot to Asia. They could do that now, cut their losses and focus on competing with China. Every president after Clinton has tried to pivot to Asia only to get drawn in by "legacy" interests whether that's establishment neocons, miggers, or liberal/constructivist types.Bailing on Iran now before getting stuck in another expensive and deadly forever war is the best outcome if your goal is to restore imperial America.
>>533555847The USA is not going to leave the middle east even if it causes WW3
>The US can't win with air strikes.>The US can't win with a ground invasionIt's over. The war ended the moment there was no revolution in Iran in the first days. What has happened since then is purely desperate last-ditch efforts. It's over.
>>533555847>What happens in America retreats from the Middle East?Nothing good. Trump won't be able to run trillion dollar deficits anymore because of how quickly the sovereign debt crisis he created by spending like a nigger will come up. With that said, I don't think China wants a petroyuan yet (if ever), so they might prop up the USD to have a managed decline over the next decade.>Because it seems to me like Iran loses nothing from charging tollsThey really don't, unless the world comes together to fast-track a framework similar to Turkish control over the Bosporus.>bombing Tel AvivThey can kinda do whatever they feel like, since they can match or exceed Israel at all levels of the escalation ladder - and basically match an Israeli nuclear strike (which would not be fatal) by cracking their desalination plants.I think what Israel really needs to look out for, if the US withdraws from the ME, is a fresh and well equipped Egyptian army doing what it's been itching to do since Gaza, perhaps with Turkish support since Israel has been threatening Ankara because they're retarded psychopaths.
>>533555821Do you think a fullscale invasion is in the works?
>>533555821The knock on effects from the loss of energy and fertilizer production (even if temporary) are now inescapable. There will be rationing in the 1st world soon.
>>533556113meanwhile my gas prices were 3.45 today
>>533556068did you really write all of that just to be unaware that an empire doesnt care how much debt its in? ha ve you not heard of this thing called the roman empire?
>>533556113governments should be ordering farmers to be growing staple crops only
>>533556038This, maybe we will have another war by 2070
also note how china isnt panicking over losing oil even though its somehow useful for fertilizer. this is because their population has been in freefall for 20 years. maybe its even below a billion. who knows?
>>533556094I wouldn't put it past King Migger and his DUI hire. However, I don't think it's possible. They don't have the troop numbers that were stretched by the 2003 Iraq invasion against a larger and better prepared military. Nor do they have the luxury of months to mass and stage while unmolested by fires. Then, when you consider that Schwarzkopf nixed plans for an amphibious assault on Kuwait because some ship hit a mine at some point in 91, it becomes pretty obvious that a fullscale invasion is simply impossible.
>>533555141WTI May futures expire tomorrow and that’s going to drive Dated prices to shoot up even higher. And that’s the trouble with manipulating the fake and gay futures market: actual businesses require actual oil to run their actual processes, whatever some kikes say the price is next month doesn’t matter if you need to buy the oil right now
>>533556094I do.
>>533556026my dude y'all can't do vietnam and afghanistan nor iran and now you want to try china. finish your dinner before trying dessert. boundless hubris is the empire in its deaththrows swansong
>>533556151>did you really write all of that just to be unaware that an empire doesnt care how much debt its in? ha ve you not heard of this thing called the roman empire?Yes, these things happen slowly and then all at once.
>>533556026>The thing the empire needed above all else was a pivot to AsiaThat was dead when Trump was elected and killed TPP and TTIP.
>>533556298You misunderstand me. I'm saying this shit in Iran is so dumb and counterproductive that from the perspective of the most jingoistic America uber alles type, the rational decision would be to cut bait and dodge the sunk cost trap.
>>533556241What about just taking the coast and then using that as a big bargaining chip? Or special forces raids on key facilities, bunkers etc
Soon, patriots soon. The sand nigger apocalypse. Dead sand niggers by the millions. The bodies will burn all night and the living will envy the dead as they glow and eat the corpses. Heaven, patriots heaven. Soon. Donald.
>>533556368>the rational decision would be to cut bait and dodge the sunk cost trap.,,, and pivot to china only to slip on a banana peel. theres no misunderstanding
>>533556236China has large reserves, have been developing alternative energy, can transport oil through land, and can ration the fuck out everything if they want to.The Chinese really learned their lesson.
>>533556449>What about just taking the coast and then using that as a big bargaining chip?Doesn't matter. They can launch cruise missiles from 100s of km away. Even without anti-ship seekers, lobbing them in the water will grind shipping to a halt.>Or special forces raids on key facilities, bunkers etcSpecial forces are basically useless in a real war like this.
>>533555821>US won't strike because they're waiting for more ships and supplies to reach the areaEveryone always forgets that "bridge and powerplant day" = "pipelines refineries and desalination plants day". Trump is obviously too afraid to attack Iranian infrastructure again, because the damage already incurred in the gulf states exceeds acceptable limits.
>>533556475Iran should open gofundme they will get trillions
hows india holding up right now?
>>533556542More like post a bitcoin wallet, because I imagine anything else would end up with the US trying to steal the money.
>>533556241Ground invasion is one of the most retarded options which in this clowntopia means it’s also one of the most likely
>>533556519People seem to forget that the poor fuckers aboard oil tankers won't sail into artillery and drones just to keep gas cheap.They are not soldiers, just regular civilians in civilian ships. Also, probably jeets.
>>533556520irans missles can't reach americas desalination plants>>533556542importing jeets could get their economy going
>>533556519What about arming the Kur no wait never mind. What about EMP bombs?
>>533556492Thinking China will run out is silly anyway. They'll just buy someone else's that's lower on the totem pole. The poorest 20% of countries are in serious trouble though. Before you all laugh though, you're using their resources and those countries breaking down into anarchy will just cause more problems.
>>>533550350Yahu(יָהּ), bless Israel. Yahu(יָהּ), bless European Americas. Yahu(יָהּ), bless the European Union. Amen(אָמֵן).
>>533556884His options are to squeal and take the economic crisis, destroy technological civilization if he employs a WMD and the Iranians actually destroy gulf oil infrastructure in what are their likely MAD plans, or make the economic crisis worse somewhere in between by continuing this war with whatever stupid warplan Kegbreath comes up with.
>>533556911When are the 20% poorest countries not in trouble? When they cut USAID that made it so a million AIDS babies could no longer afford medicine.Their populations are already majorly inflated by economic aid. Who the fuck told them to have 4 million people slums in a place that doesn't have fucking water? I say fuck em'.
>>533556995Another option might be to strategically intervene in Cuba and maybe cause a small refugee crisis of a million so that the attention goes off Iran
>>533557055Their populations will just bounce back when things normalize though. That's pretty constant throughout history. But they'll make things worse for everyone else during the troubles.
>>533557156Congratulations on choosing option 3. If the hormussy is not opened then everything continues going to shit, no amount of distractions refutes that fact
>>533556236China will suffer, but they can survive. They won’t be happy at the suffering and will watch on in horror as their neighbors collapse around them. I’m sure utterly obliterating Korea, Japan, Australia, and the entirety of Southeast Asia will make people appreciate the US
>>533557213>Their populations will just bounce back when things normalize though. That's pretty constant throughout history.That's not true.Africa, as an example, used to represent a much smaller share of humanity before they were given a trillion dollars.
>>533551708worked so well for Kadhafi
>>533556542With goal tiers.>At 10 millions, new drones for Hezbollah>At 50 millions, a refinery in Qatar goes ablaze>At 100 millions, a pipeline in Saudi Arabia blows up>At 200 millions, ballistic missiles on the Burj Khalifa>At 6 billions, TKDEarly supporters receive the Supporter Package that contains:- a genuine chart of the strait of Hormuz- two of multiple (collectible) miniature military vehicles (missile launcher, speedboat, etc.)- a vial containing one microgram of 60% enriched uranium
Hormussy status?Bab al-Mandab status?Houthi status?
>>533557298Kim Jong Il and Zulfikar Bhutto are turning out to have been the most forward thinking leaders of the 20th century.
>>533557296People will still want their shit after the crisis and their always be some degree of aid as countries and companies will want to maintain their assets there.
>>533557345I hate to admit it, but same goes for Ben-Gurion. The whole world cuts funding for Israel tomorrow and they’ll just start lobbing missiles at their neighbors like North Korea for more funding. It’s too bad Chiang Kai-shek didn’t tell the US to fuck off and develop nukes anyways to keep the mainlanders away from his island
>>533557345Yes.Although I genuinely wonder if nukes might be outdated.They're supposed to be a deterrent, right? Yet Israel, which has a low threshold for using them (I assume), is still not using them despite getting bombed by Iran, and from Hamas and Hezbollah.Ukraine targets Russian refineries and ports with drones on a weekly basis, and the threshold is too low for Russia to nuke them.The same would apply to Iran. So perhaps they are definitely working on assembling a viable nuclear deterrent, or perhaps they understand the future is about cruise missiles, drones, AI, and having an industrial base to sustain this kind of warfare over the long run.Ultimately they can probably do both, although obviously they have limited resources and must decide what to prioritize.One strategy for them might be to negotiate a very hard bargain with Trump (a man of the cold war) to trade their nuclear program for a removal of every single sanction and restriction.
>>533551381>are a ruse to draw out high-ranking figures, such as Parliamentary Speaker Mohammad-Bagher Ghalibaf, for targeted strikesThis is what winning looks like
>>533551488>idk why they dont do itBecause they can't
>>533557617>Yet Israel, which has a low threshold for using them (I assume), is still not using them despite getting bombed by IranIran has been very careful in their targeting and fire plans to avoid the appearance of existential threat to Israel. They've been avoiding desal plants for that reason, for example.Tehran might be the most rational actor here.
>>533550350These threads are boring because it’s always the same: coping, responses, and denial, over and over again for more than 50 days straight.The war is over. Many people just don’t know it or refuse to admit it. The U.S. should have put more effort into the uprisings but didn’t. Now it’s time to either keep wasting time in a lost fight or surrender, recover, and go after Cuba to try to boost morale
>>533557565Difference between everywhere and Israel is that all of Israel's neighbours could lob missiles back and wipe it out pretty trivially. It's a small, open, poorly armed desert shithole that struggles NOW with an infinite line of credit and control everywhere. They get cut out they cease to exist, it's not a defendable location and historically never has been.
>>533557750>more effort into the uprisings they couldn't after that night that Iranians hunt mossad and cia agents.
>>533557444Sure, Some parts of Africa have oil and other valuable resources like gold, tin, copper, and so forth. Also, the Chinese have built a lot of infrastructure over there already.Those people are probably getting paid, and sent weapons and military instructors because Russia needs that gold.However, for everyone else they'll have to either come up with something valuable, invite some form of vassalization or starve.What really worries me are the jeets because America needs them against China so they will continue cucking to them. Canada too.
>>533557835>What really worries me are the jeets because America needs them against Chinawhy
>>533557750>or surrender, recover, and go after Cuba to try to boost moraleThis is why i don't want the IRGC to let americans go so easily
>>533557793Isn’t that the point of MAD? Israel’s neighbors level them with missiles and they’ll level as many of their cities as they can with their nukes before they go down
>>533557750You really don't understand the gravity of 20% of the world's oil being sent offline means, huh? You'll find out this week if you haven't already.
>>533557912I want Israel to be destroyed but if that happens they'll go to patagonia and I don't want them in the continent. fugg.
>>533553713>posted garbage data while not sharing the flight number and bullying people to trust youThats most Iranian shills
>>533557980MAD breaks down if one side is unilaterally declaring to "end your civilization".Really it's only a deterrent for countries that can't deal with bad optics internally.
>>533558013jews will need to fix their reputation first.
>>533558176they will never change.. there is only one solution to jewish problem.
>>533551701>6 israeli cell phones present at charlie kirk assassination were in islamabad during the last negotiations there.how could you possibly know thatquit falling for bullshit
>>533558176One of the best things right now is that the reputation of Israel and the Jews is plummeting. The boomers who protected them are dying out and their numbers are dwindling. Soon only evangelicals and a few other American Christians will be left to defend them.
>>533558013Israel does need to be destroyed but they have nothing without someone backing them, which is the US. If you cut off Israel from the US it would shrivel up like a parasite and so would al the clout jews have and then the Palestinians would just eliminate them all in revenge and take their homes back. They would flee to other countries but they will no longer be as obnoxious and murderous as they are now. They would just hang their heads and stay quiet. But a reality where the US cuts off Israel is a pipe dream.
>>533558262>>533558284The printing press destroyed the catholic church, the internet will destroy judaism. Like how everyone now can see how they suck baby dicks, or call non jews goyim in a pejorative way
>>53355798820% is not that grave. The rest of the world can increase production by about 5% in 1 month conservatively leaving a 15% deficit. About 27% of crude is used for personal transportation and you can carve 10% out of that. The last 5% can come from a small decrease in industrial output.During the covid crisis, crude utilization dropped by 29% in a matter of weeks. People will have to do remote work, cancel vacations, and do some belt-tightening, but a 20% deficit is not enough to get Trump to accept being branded a loser for the rest of his pathetic life.
>>533557156If Cuba doesn't capitulate in a few days, China or Russia could ship them drones and they could bomb Miami or Key West. But Cuba would be over fast because their military are morons and have ignored Ukraine and now Iran. On the other hand, it would be funny to see miggers argue why being flooded by refugees is suddenly based.
>>533551708Trump isn't happy with just the nukes. He wants no ballistic missiles so Iran is helpless against Israel
>>533557156>We'll distract from a bad situation with an even worse one that directly affects AmericansGENIUS!!!!!
>>533558365Cubans usually vote for Republicans, so I imagine they would love the idea.
>>533558347>People will have to do remote work, cancel vacations, and do some belt-tighteningWhat you said was horseshit but this just shows you have no concept of how bad living in the US is for nearly half of the population. No one can afford vacations and businesses are axing remote work entirely. The inflation rate is already too high.
>>533558434Quite sure your family being sieged and starved out tends to change that. Trump can't even hold on to the white working class
>>533558469>you have no concept of how bad living in the US is for nearly half of the population. No one can afford vacations and businesses are axing remote work entirelyI mean, I can think of better criticisms of what I said than that. What you said is probably true because I'm of a different class. However, people would have to take extreme measures like they did in covid like switching to remote work everywhere that it's possible (jew daycare jobs).
>>533558347>People will have to do remote work, cancel vacations, and do some belt-tightening, but a 20% deficit is not enough to get Trump to accept being branded a loser for the rest of his pathetic life.No dude, this is an oil shock several multiples worse than the OPEC embargo. This is way more oil offline across the entire globe, and with infrastructure actually destroyed in some cases.And the OPEC embargo sent the US into a stagflationary cycle for a decade where it had way less debt, and under-utilized oil in the Gulf of Mexico. And this already on top of a shitty economy from Trump's tarrif wars.
>>533558654>in covid like switching to remote work everywhere that it's possible (jew daycare jobs).You fundamentally don't understand the difference between supply and demand here. There is a reason why oil momentarily went negative in Covid, and why it is climbing into the stratosphere now.
>>533558082they are a superpower now, they can be as annoying as they want
what happened to>we're not negotiating unless US ends the blockadeit's so Iranoverthey're clearly desperate to stop Bridge & Power Plant Dy
>>533559410
this blows
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>>533559628Whitest Iranian
>>533559410They didn't have to try very hard to stop it lmao>I have decided to give Iran another 5 days + 7 days +48 hrs + 2 weeks + 2 more days
>>533559410>Bridge & Power Plant Dythat would really blow
>>533553250Strait status?
>>533559784For Iran
>>533559628>t.
