Orange Golem once again tries to damage control/declare victory after US defeat
You lost uranny
>>533559819>Operation Midnight Hammerwho did Donnie caught Melania giving a hammer to at midnight? was it Vance?
>>533559819The US has come to the conclusion that the strait of hormuz is a no-win situation. there is functionally nothing the US can do about the closure THUS all messaging about the war of israeli aggression in Iran will whole-sale switch to recovering the enriched uranium, which it believes is the one sole remaining point it can achieve anything that approaches victory.to this end, israels intent is to have the US launch a total-war campaign of israeli-style collective punishment against Iran, attacking civilian infrastructure that will create conditions of widespread national humanitarian catastrophe that will consume the Iranian governments attention and resources, creating a window where the US can enter Iran and occupy Isfahan nuclear complex, to establish an occupation zone, where it will set up an extraction operation for the enriched uranium or as trump puts it "nuclear dust" (to make it seem insignificant in the media).this is will 100% of the new messaging going forwardit will be a total saturation of the 'removal of enriched uranium' talking point, agnosium. israel and the israeli lobby in the US have wagered the future of israel itself on its recovery. the "ceasefire" in domestic israeli politics has nearly collapsed the country, and most israelies see it as the final evidence of inarguable 'defeat'. thus trump must act NOW, not 2 weeks from now when his 60 day war-powers act expires.
>>533560051the "enriched uranium / nuclear dust" talking point is 100% israeli to the core. Iran, by denying this one, sole point..can ensure this war can never, EVR be spun as any kind of 'win' in any way, shape or form by israel, who hitched all of their political messaging to recovering the uranium as the 'win condition'.Domestically, the 'ceasefire' is a catastrophe for israeli messaging, and has plunged thier nation into what is essentially cataclysm, that will result in the nation breaking apart for real. isael achieved ZERO of its stated goals of the war. ZERO>no regmine change, no 'popular uprising'>no definititve end to nuclear program, removal of nuclear material>defense industry and assets of Iran remain in huge numbers>no litani river, no lebensraum, no greater israelas a result of these catastrophic failures, israeli government narrative pivoted to "recovering the enriched uranium and ending Irans ability to make nuclear threats". this was supposed to have been achieved militarily..and the US attempted at Isfahan, which resulted in the "F-15 WSO recovery" horse-shit that has all but been DROPPED and memory holed.now....with no recovery of the uranium and a trump ceasefire in effect, israels defeat has been all but "sealed"....and this has thrown israel itself into domestic calamity, dealing with the reactions of satanyahu's coalition and the israeli people themselves, furious at their new reality.
We know he's lying because there were nuclear readings after every bunker buster dropped showing zero signs of nuclear leakage.No one knows where Iran is keeping it's nuclear material and Iran claims they left it buried in the facility bombed last year. If Iran is telling the truth this war is completely retarded
I don't know why the IRGC just don't give Trump a bone and let him claim victory, it's not like they need a nuke when they have the strait anyway, just give the Uranium up, have it diluted down to a usable grade and keep it.
>>533559819dont worry im sure Iran has another 50 AI videos to post in reponse
>>533560051>>533560082Will China continue taking the economic results of the blocade or react?
>>533559934You lost ToIranny
>>533559819It is fine if he wants to declare victory even after defeat so long as he packs up and leaves the middle east
>>533559819Does this faggot do anything other than cope and seethe all day? I know the administration is run by jews but it seems like Trump's only job is to bitch and moan about the goyim not believing the lies.
>>533560755lots and lots of inside traiding
I am really happy to see usa losing yet another war after Afghanistan
>>533559819>our great aviators, look at me I support the troops!>also I will soon send tens of thousands marines/infantry to their deaths for Israel
>>533560465they won't do shit because they can't>>533560491weak, irany is the tollrany
>>533559819So not only was I supposed to believe that collecting dust was a thing, I'm supposed to believe that this dust can be made to stop existing by double-tapping it the same way that made the dust?...So basically someone gave Trump the news that it isn't feasible to dig up nuclear debris from the bomb site that they never confirmed was or wasn't nuclear-related to begin with, so Trump made up a story to get out of the task he invented.
>>533560419Not how it works, USA needs the enriched fuel for its donestic reactors -- like they actually neeeed it. They need it worse than oil since they're still fucking with russia and getting no uranium in return for veing cunts
>>533561271Their nuclear program was obliterated but also they were two weeks away from a nuclear bomb. You would have to MAGA to believe it. That's also why he calls it "nuclear dust" enriched uranium is too difficult for MAGA to understand.
>>533560082>F-15 WSOThis is so fucking weird. Shouldn't they be doing the whole media tour like that guy shot down and rescued back in the 90s? They really have just completely memoryholed the whole thing.
>>533559819>we destroyed Iran's nuclear program for like the 6th time!!!!!!!! this time for real!!Exactly how low IQ do you have to vote republican ever again at this point? 80?
>>533561313Saskatchewan has plenty of mines.
>>533559819
>>533559819>Iran's nuclear capability was completely destroyed>Also they can build a nuke in two weeks so I had to start another war.
>>533560051I think your strategic assessment of Israel's aims is accurate, but I also think this is suicide for the US. Loss of power plants will be a big problem for Iran but I also think Trump is kinda BSing about taking them all out or just wants to do symbolic strikes that will cost Iran but allow them to get back online in fairly short order. I think knocking out bridges is not that big of a deal, Iran is not a riparian landscape where this would bring commerce to a screeching halt, it's just going to impose costs and annoyance. Rail bridges are relatively easy to repair. Meanwhile the US will be getting shit on publicly and lose even more allies because dismantling civilian infrastructure is le bad and everyone understands by now that Iran's military infrastructure is built into their mountain fortresses and the US can't outbomb geography.The idea that the US is going to occupy the area around isfahan and then just lift out all the nuclear material is the stuff of movies or games. It would be a tactical nightmare scenario and I think even Trump understands that well enough to not want to put his hand in a meat grinder even though Hegseth would cheerfully do so, that guy has some sort of death wish. This TRVKE reads to me like he's trying to leave the door open for declaring victory and winding down, arguing that Iran will never be able to dig it out. Which is BS of course but that's the MAGA currency and his followers will declare victory whatever he actually does.
>>533559819>derka derka country #7 has WMD'sthat's great. keep me posted
>>533561645It's insane how stupid his supporters are.
>>533560082>isael achieved ZERO of its stated goals of the war. ZEROIsrael expanded Lebensraum.And what do they care if USA and the Arabs get BTFO in the gulf? - not their problem.
>>533559819Shitbrown muzzrat zuttcondom once again shedding his bitch tears after getting casually raped and impregnated by the USA
>>533560419It's existential for the IRGC. Forcing the US into a humiliating strategic corner vindicates everything the Islamic Republic has believed since its inception.>>533560465I think they're much better prepared for it than the US wants to admit. Look how many countries are moving to cooperate with them as the US purity spirals itself into madness. The Chinese are businesslike, they drive a tough bargain but they're not demanding people adopt communism or any of that, just acknowledge them as the power they are and stay out of the Taiwan issue.
>>533561313WE GIVE THEM URANIUM YOU DUMBASS
>>533560419>I don't know why the IRGC just don't give Trump a boneIt's Trump who doesn't give Iran a bone.He demands complete surrender so from the Iranian regime's p.o.v. they might as well fight to the death.
>>533561399>Shouldn't they be doing the whole media tour like that guy shot down and rescued back in the 90s?Checked and agreed. I wonder if the guy actually died or at least is severely injured. Normally doing a victory lap and putting a face to the story of heroic survival and rescue would be PR 101. But the official story makes so little sense, if you imagine it as a hollywood movie people would just be asking WTF and how is this a win
>>533559989>midnight hammerIt was Obama obviously
>>533560051>>533561663I salute you for posting considered, reasonable posts
>>533559819Operation Midnight Climax was already taken.Operation Midnight Exploding Cigar was deemed too self-fulfilling.
>>533560147The sort of containers they use to store uranium are very tough and not likely to be ruptured unless hit directly. I don't know what sort of container iran uses but it could be similar to pic related just to give you an idea.
>>533562400I guess I should add, personally I think they moved it because the strikes were telegraphed far enough in advance.
>>533560082Enter: New Mega 9/11 Israeli false flag, "underground nuke" sinks Manhattan, Internet gone 1 month, blamed on Iran gives Israel "moral permission" to use nukes "in retaliation"
>>533561807They're mostly Jews astroturfing at this point
>>533559989You know who...
>>533562333Thanks fren. I've enjoyed the late-night chats about the whole Iran situation over the last couple of months, the /PIG/ and related threads have been substantive and relatively bullshit free, the best of /pol/ in a few years. Perhaps it's because there aren't any distracting side arguments over whether Iran is run by jews or not.
>>533562621That would be unbelievably kino
>>533561350Logically, the original bombing site was a lie all along, or the new reason to attack is a lie, or both are a lie.
>>533560419Claim victory of what? Do you think its going to magically stop anything? Why did (((we))) start the war in the first place?
>>533562621It would be funny if they didn't push Memedani to get the capital to flee NYC for this reason. A man can dream.
>>533559934LOSER!!!
>>533561663>>533560051The problem with this is it's still a loss. Shifting the narrative to something about uranium doesn't change that loss, and losing a war has real consequences. In this case the consequences are Iran keeps tolling ships in the strait, keeping prices sky high forever. Iran hasn't caved on any of its demands. It wants the ability to enrich Uranium, it wants US troops out of the Middle East and it wants to keep full control of the strait.The outcome of that would be those Gulf States lose all confidence in the US, start doing deals with China and start building nukes themselves because Iran's doing it so they have no choice. The KSA has already said that's what it will do if Iran gets a nuke.All of that means the petrodollar is done for.The only way to end this in a good way for the US is to change the regime in Iran, which means boots on the ground because you can't change regimes with air power alone.
>>533562808>there aren't any distracting side arguments over whether Iran is run by jews or not.Pyramid Iranian Parliament with 33 windowsOnly real bloodline Jews are in Iran, imposters in Israel & diasporaYep, it's kayfabe.
>>533562400>I don't know what sort of container iran usesI think it's centrifuge tubes.Those are just large aluminum tubes with thick walls that can be spun very fast.I doubt they would survive a direct hit but they're deep underground so unless the roof collapsed it should be fine.
>>533562931Planned many years ago. Just like 9/11. Your Moloch nation will have a spectacular destruction tho
>>533563059>Boots on the ground. And Trump's reaction to the pilot being shot down inside Iran shows he's not willing to risk it.
>>533560147Alaistar Crooke says they moved it a few days before the bombing last year.400kg is not a big thing, it can be moved in a pickup truck
>>533562790go on....
>>533563059Agreed. KSA would have a nuke to save face but I think secretly they would be able to live with a nuclear Iran as they would also be making bank from high oil prices and not be really worse off with the US gone or heavily faded from the region. I do not believe the Sunni and Shia want to have any kind of military showdown even though the Shia view the Sunni monarchies as effete and degenerate. If the US were gone from the region I think Iran would forgo expansionism or trying to start revolutions in Bahrain (where most of the population is Shia) in favor of stability and reconstruction for a generation or two.The problem as always is Israel. Without them the oil producing countries could just exploit their resource advantage in a pragmatic way and inch toward an Islamic renaissance of cultural and scientific development and trying to exert hegemony over Africa. Israel's internal problems seem insoluble, the liberals and religious quietists like the Haredim are outnumbered by the hardline Zionists that want land and blood and the Zionists can't justify their existence without conflict, so they're just constitutionally incapable of getting on with their neighbors. I see no solution other than the establishment of an moderate Islamic hegemony that dismantles Israel militarily but lets the Jews exist as an regional ethnic group similar to the Fatimid caliphate.On the bright side the region is overdue for a massive earthquake of magnitude 7 or above
>>533565226What was Iran's role in Syria during the war there?
>>533559819Where did Trump get his poll numbers for support again? I thought it was from CNN. Is he back to saying CNN bad now?
>>533560051>professor 4chan-preddit with explain what is happening with his remote viewing expertise which xhe assures you is as ineffable as Doritos are tasty
Some of you faggots really should have been aborted
>>533560051>agnosiumIt's Ad Nauseam , illiterate nigger.
>>533565640>Some of you faggots really should have been aborted
>>533559819Wtf was Operation Midnight Hamster?Did this happen before or after the supposed cease-fire?I can't keep up, I'm too busy. Pls clarify.
>>533559819Is that his nightly sermon?
>>533560051Can't argue with the logic here, this seems to be a well thought out post.
>>533565947>2pbtid faggotHe's an insider but post moar faggot
>>533563059The UAE is already shaking down America for money, saying if they don't get money from USA they will start trading in Yuan so that Iran lets their ships pasthttps://archive.is/75jzE>But they have also argued that it was President Trump’s decision to attack Iran that entangled their country in a destructive conflict whose effects may not be over, some of the officials said. Emirati officials told the U.S. officials that if the U.A.E. runs short of dollars, it may be forced to use Chinese yuan or other countries’ currencies for oil sales and other transactions, some of the officials said.>In that scenario is an implicit threat to the U.S. dollar, which reigns supreme among global currencies partially because of its near-exclusive use in oil transactions.
>>533560419Honestly wouldn't it be better for Iran to say on twitter trump won, and send him a big trophy with "Biggest war winner" or something written on it. They don't give up anything and it might be good enough to get the US off their backs.
>>533559819OP is a LOSER!!!
>>533566029Yeah righto memeflag
>>533566346No that was the most sensible credible information I've read in the last two weeks. But only thing that anon seems wrong is "domestic turmoil" in Israel. No such news. Lebanons the one in turmoil.
>>533566674Yeah I said it was a well thought out post you drongo
>>533566674Doesn't half of Tel Aviv spend their day underground in bunkers these days? Their cities are basically at a standstill
>>533562400The cave installations are large networks and g us don't have a very large effective radius assuming they were on target and made it deep enough. Iran said it was 400m deep because of how the far into the mountains they excavated... The chances it was shit are almost zero. The strike was a show of force to make Israel happy it didn't do shit.
>>533559819>We completely obliterated the nukes>But we had to start the war because they were about to get nukes in 2 weeksJews don't even try to get their lies to make sense.
>>533567057It is normal for vermin to dwell in dark, undergound places.
>>533560051>the "ceasefire" in domestic israeli politics has nearly collapsed the country, and most israelies see it as the final evidence of inarguable 'defeat'.can you say more about this? hasn't there been widespread anti-netanyahuism since October 7th? will the israeli government fall and an election be called?
>>533566892>well thought out So you don't believe anon is a real insider then.
>>533567631Did he claim to be?
