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What exit options does he even have for this war?
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>>533575288
Tuck tail and run.
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>>533575288
SHEKEL transfer from Shlomo the kikes
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I dunno but reports are coming out this morning that massive oil short positions were just taken.
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>>533575288
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Hope the democrats pass a war powers act (they won’t) that makes him have to pass a budget to pay for the war and until he gets one passed (he won’t) he has to withdraw all troops from the region.
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just leave lol
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>My name is Donald J. Trump, and you've just been PUNKED!
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Nuke Israel
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>>533575288

epstein options?
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Bombing their water supply, nukes, emulate Italy and switch sides and bomb Israel along with Iran?
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>>533575288
>What exit options does he even have for this war?
Offer to regime change Israel in exchange for uranium. They are more of a problem than a solution. If we threw Bibi and Hegseth under the bus along with Kushner and Witcoff we could seriously reposition ourselves at the bargaining table.

Israel also deserves a huge diplomatic bitchslap for getting us into this, So regime change Bibi and put in someone who knows their place.
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You can win the war. You just have to accept that all the oil in the gulf is gone. Let the oil be destroyed, then winning the war is very easy.
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>>533575800
you don't need to reposition yourself from being on top
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>>533575288
his exit plan is to croak in a couple of days
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>>533575288
Leave and be a coward, or go in and be an idiot that got thousands of americans killed.
But of course he's an american so he will never admit defeat.
Good luck dodging those drones, fatsos.
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>>533575845
That would crash the economy of the USA, and get everyone off the petrodollar. It would also require drafting zoomers, whose futures you just ruined. And trust me, Iran will be a quagmire. It will be Vietnam 2.0
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>>533575288
He should enter Iran and listen to what they have to say.
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>>533576283
So what is the answer?
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>>533576043
Bibi is causing problems and he's worth selling out. We have a better chance of regime changing him than radically changing Iran's political environment. for now.

Blame Israel, and cozy up to Iran to respect their power. That would rebalance the region with us in the middle taking over control of everything.

If you want to do world politics like a gangster do it like a gangster.
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>>533575288
>"Iran isn't worthy of being our opponent"
>Does a 360 and walks away
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>>533575288
Implement the Obama Iran deal again
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>>533576492
Time machine, kek. Zoomers aren't gonna fight for ZOG btw
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>>533575288
You dumb fuck, he doesn't need an exit strategy - he's just gonna keep blowing shit up and taking out their leaders, until they cough up the nukes.
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>>533575288
he can exit anytime pic related
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>>533576708
Impossible. That ship has sailed! Iran isn't trusting Israel and Israel's golem again. They would be retards if they did. Additionally, any treaty made by USA and Iran will get violated by Israel, so that only makes things worse. We just blew up Khamenei at a (((peace conference))) so put yourself in their turbans for a second. Would you trust a peace deal if you were them? Perhaps equally important is the fact that Iran's regime is currently headless, which means it's essentially impossible to make any kind of deal with them. Sooner or later they'll get nukes btw, their literal survival depends on it.
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Let them off with a "warning" until midterms ends
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>>533576852
>Muttmerican says something retarded
They don't have nukes right now, but they will soon. And they won't cough them up because nukes are the only way to prevent Israel and Israel's golem from blowing your nation's schools up.
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>>533577029
They have something far better than a nuke, they can throttle the global economy simply by closing the strait.

Admitting to having a nuclear weapon would be suicide as it would give credence to the proportionality of using tactical nukes.
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>>533575288
Surrendering eastern europe to Russia and peacing out on Iran terms. As he was instructed to.

Securing the multipolar world order.
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>>533576956
Their strategy at this point is to cause enough pain that us attacking them is unthinkable or genuinely impossible. It seems to be working
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>>533575288
exit?
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>>533575288
They coup his ass at a cabinet meeting like Beria
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>>533577459
Baria was just in charge of the interoir and intelligenc while Trump is essentially the general secretary
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>>533576573
Sensible take
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>>533575288
He's gonna have to pay the toll I'm afraid.
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If he doesnt escalate, his Jewish handlers will put his entire family in prison.

The united states is going to fight an ground war for greater israel and nobody can stop it. There is a reason these people werent even allowed in country clubs until the 1970s. Now we get to be human shields.
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how long before taco escapes to israel?
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>>533575845
>You can win the war.
11 US bases destroyed, new more militant regime, sanctions removed, loss of gc allies etc.. kek ok
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>>533577578
the best part is we could get most of the world on board with that solution. Hell even let stakeholders choose Bibi's replacement. Diplomatic channels would make Iran feel like they had a voice in the discussions because some appeasement is required. We sure as shit arent paying reparations.
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>>533577881
Trump will pay reparations but he'll say 'Europe is paying the reparations not us' just like he did with tarriffs. His retard supporters will see that as a win.
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>>533576852
boomer hands typed this
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>>533575288
surrender and retreat
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>>533578100
I assumed it was bait but you're probably right
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>>533575288
total humiliation. he literally destroyed every off-ramp that was handed to him and will run out of congress-free power to do anything eventually, that or run out of money. This war has neigh zero support.
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>>533578062
>Trump will pay reparations
USA taxpayers dont play that shit and you would get 90% in favor of war. Trump is untouchable but his crooked family is on a long list of people the USA should consider throwing under the bus to get $3 gas prices and not starving half the world.
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>>533577155
If they had a nuke, we would be dumb to nuke them. Tel Aviv would go BOOM the same day. Nuclear deterrence. It's right now that we can nuke them all we want with impunity, which is why they want a nuke to begin with.

>>533577425
Yes, hit the USA where it counts: in the boomer 401ks. That will unironically work
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>>533576283
No it wouldn't lmao. The US has enough oil.
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>>533577658
Most reasonable solution, frfr no cap
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>>533577784
Destroying the oil is good in ITSELF! Even if the war didn't happen, destroying that oil would be great for America.
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>>533575358

fpbp

Taco salad for us all, same as every other day.
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>>533576492
Blow up the oil. Literally just blow it up. We don't need that oil.
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>>533577881
You act like Bibi is the problem, when it's the deep state Jew cabal. Bibi is just a figurehead. Think about it, even if Trump finally croaked from a McStroke, the cabal would be fine
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>>533578232
That won't end the war though. Iran isn't unblocking shit
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>>533578885
We don't WANT it unblocked. We want it all destroyed. Destroy the oil.
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The oil in the Middle East is the foundation stone of globalism. Tear it down, and globalism falls.
As a prize, you get to win the war against iran. That's like, your little payoff. the real prize is America gaining the strongest oil monopoly on earth, and all the manufacturing rushing home to get the oil. A new age of American domination. Not through some international partnership, not through some foreign empire. But through our own resources, our own might and power.
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>>533578677
Dumbest post of the thread (so far) award, and as usual it's a Muttmerican. Nigger retard, you do realize that USA isn't an island? A spike in manufacturing costs worldwide really would affect USA. You have to be a complete imbecile not to realize how interconnected the global economy is. Are you a boomer by chance? If Chinese electronics increase in cost, you best believe that will cause major pain to the US economy. If India has to pay more to create food, you're gonna see that reflect here.

>but Muttmerica can exist without Chinese manufacturing
If you tried to post this, you would get another "dumbest post of the thread" award. No chinkslop == economy collapses. Of course, this isn't the only problem, and a rather simplified view, but no matter. American economy would collapse if global oil supply got fucked. Yeah, we would have enough fuel to put in our cars, but we wouldn't be able to afford the components of the cars.

>petrodollar
Everyone's already talking about switching from the petrodollar, and many already have switched. No one wants to do business with this version of USA. Unpredictable foreign policy, crazier and crazied retards at the helm, wanton bombing of civilians and other brazen war crimes, a declining economy, alienation of allies, etc. We are giving up control of the world economy to China. Baba Vanga predicted this btw. Think about it, why would a random independent small nation use the USD for oil trading, in the age of cryptocurrency? USA has already demonstrated how it really can just freeze and rob your petrodollars at any point. Look at Russia. No one wants to do business like that. Petrodollar == USA jews can rob all your money at the press of a button.

Anyway here's your award
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This really is the reason Trump rose to power. Why he achieved the presidency. Why he went through all that tribulation. If he just destroys the oil, it will all be worth it. A world-changing event. The biggest political shakeup in modern world history.

I don't assert that this is directly beneficial to our side. But this is a "gameboard shift" that would tend positively in our direction. You would find, in the years that followed, a massive resurgence of nationalism and the decline and phasing-out of globalism and internationalism. This would provide ripe fields for us to grow. Trump is a bull in the china shop destroying things. Let him destroy this. Change the world order forever.
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>>533575288
Falling to his knees and begging for Iran to accept Obama's deal again.
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>>533578922
That only benefits accelerationists. This move hurts everyone and benefits no one except for Russia and China. Raping the world's oil supply will cause everyone and i mean EVERYONE to hate America and Israel. Is that the plan?
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Why are people still treating him like he's sane?

He's lost his mind. He has dementia. He has zero sense of reality. Rumor from the mirror that it he tried to use the nuclear codes on Saturday and one of the generals stopped him.

He needs to be impeached, removed, and imprisoned. His cronies need to be held accountable via Article 2 section 4. Mike Johnson needs to be held accountable too via Motion to vacate the chair.
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>>533579328
>you do realize that USA isn't an island?
We nationalize our oil. Then we get low prices. The world buys the excess, which we provide for the highest prices in human history. We make out like bandits.
Because the oil price is lower here, manufacturing would RUSH home, like a firehose. All that wealth that's been feeding the development of foreign countries would come rushing home.
Yes, there would be suffering. But that would be borne by the third world. The first world would rise and triumph. This would be a fundamental paradigm shift.

>but Muttmerica can exist without Chinese manufacturing
AI is coming online. We can do it ourselves. We don't need foreign slaves anymore. NOW is the time to do this. This particular moment in history, is the perfect time.

>American economy would collapse if global oil supply got fucked
WRONG! We would triumph, and the third world would be fucked over. They have grown like an obese animal at the largesse of globalism. Time for that to end. No more of the clutching masses of the hordes outside the walls. No more of this. We can save the world. America and Europe will rise together and crush everyone else.

>Everyone's already talking about switching from the petrodollar, and many already have switched
Yes those oil states are not loyal allies. We have to parlay them between other states, like China and Russia. FUCK THAT! The future shouldn't be some bargaining table where we lose to China. The future should be AMERICA ONLY! Destroy those fucking oil states, they are garbage.

>We are giving up control of the world economy to China.
In your timeline, where trump cucks and fails the shittest, yes. I'm all about America baby. This world is OURS!
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>>533579521
>This move hurts everyone and benefits no one except for Russia and China.
How does it benefit Russia and China? Most of that oil is feeding China's factories. With that oil off the table, China has to beg us for a droplet of black liquid. We can bend them over a barrel, as we de-industrialize them. Manufacturing will come rushing home.
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>>533579376
Take off your rose colored goggles. American (((nationalism))) exists only to serve Israel. No one wins if oil prices skyrocket. Do you really think US consumers could withstand their grocery prices doubling, and their tech prices tripling? In what world is that a win for anyone but the elites at the top, who will play the system to enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else? You're like, burn the world, burn it all! Then you'll be like "why am i so hungry? Why is there no food?" Retard Americans with 0 foresight or self reflection as usual.

>crisis good
Only if you're like George Soros or Alex Karp. Are you a Jewish billionaire?
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>>533575288
exit strategy for this war does not exist
this war will end american empire and Trump will go down in history as a man who singlehandedly destroyed it with one dumbfuck move everyone was warning him against
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>>533579644
You're the dumbest poster on the thread. 2 dumbest post of the thread (so far) awards in a row? Sheesh!

>we don't need Chinese manufacturing
Idiot, you won't be able to post here. AI isn't gonna magically save you, that's such a low IQ thing to say

>make out like bandits
The rest of the world will treat us as such, while Russia and China will create the civilizations of tomorrow.

>we would triumph and the third world would be fucked over
Yeah just like we could easily defeat Vietnam and bring democracy to the middle east. You should really KYS for being such a retard. There's no way you're not a boomer.

>>533579692
China can get oil from Russia, so now the anti-American alliance grows stronger. They'll also ally with India. Muttmerica will no longer be able to sanction Russian oil. The grand plays you described in your other post would fail, because USA would simply not have the cards to play to make it happen. You're overestimating the strength of your decaying empire.
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>>533579703
>No one wins if oil prices skyrocket.
They wouldn't skyrocket. We have enough oil. All we would need to do is insulate American consumers from global demand pressures. Which could be done easily, by nationalizing our oil supply.
>their grocery prices doubling
We have enough food too. An overabundance. The only reason there would be a scarcity of food is if we continue feeding the hordes of the third world, as we have been. Time for that to end. This is rugpulling the third world.

>and their tech prices tripling?
There would be other complications like that, I don't dispute it. But I think, we could work it out. When we are the biggest oil producer on earth, everyone has to beg us on hand and knee. We would be in a very strong negotiating position, and we could get the prices we want.

>You're like, burn the world, burn it all!
We NEED radical change. That's not optional. Actually, anything that fundamentally shakes up the world, is something we should try. I've found often when you're stuck, changing things around in unexpected ways can sometimes click in your favor.
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>>533579997
>while Russia and China will create the civilizations of tomorrow.
Delusional? Russia is going nowhere but down. And China? They are utterly dependent on Gulf oil. Sure Russia can supply some, I don't dispute it. But that would also make them extremely dependent on Russia, and Europe would become dependent on us.
That way, instead of Europe and China joining and locking us out of the party, we have a civilizational battle between west and east. I think that realignment is beneficial.
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>>533579522
He is sane, it's just that he's a golem slave. He has no will of his own, which is something that he shares with 99% of the Muttmerican populace. We have retards in this thread right now saying that Muttmerica could survive without Chinese manufacturing. Trump's supporters are bigger retard golems than he is. They really do think that this Iran crisis is good news somehow. Absolute mongrels. I understand if this came from the point of view of organic American nationalism where we got to decide our national destiny ourselves, but this is all done for the sake of Israel. Amerigolems have no will of their own, after all. Take that boomer retard I'm arguing with ITT. He wants zoomers to go die for his 401k to be saved
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>>533575288
It’s all about Israel so unless Israel is hit hard and has to exit the war then it’s never going to stop.
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>>533575288
Hanging himself.
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>>533580270
You're the reason people hate Americans. You talk a mile a minute, but all your words are idiocy. Russia is going down? How do you plan on supplying Ukranny if you're also fighting like 3 other wars, retard? China becoming "dependent" on Russian oil? Not a problem because they'll get along. This may be hard for a Muttmerican to grasp, but not every nation is a crazed golem vassal state to Israel. Trust me, the rest of the world will be fine without USA. It's USA that needs the rest of the world. We are the global empire. We need our subjects, not the other way around. A king depends on his subjects much, much more than vice versa. Also KYS

>EU
Actually gave me a good laugh. EU is, at this very second, talking about how to get away from Muttmerican hedgemony. You think you can just keep antagonizing Euros and they won't do anything about it? Lmao. Muttmerica is losing friends left and right.

>we could work out tech prices tripling
KEK you vill own nothing but unironically. Genius mutt!

>we NEED radical change
That's what you boomers were saying when you elected that ZOG puppet, now look where we are. Your kids are about to be drafted into Vietnam 2.0
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>>533578769
Do we need low prices for American consumers?
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>>533580071
>we must accelerate!
You fundamentally don't understand accelerationism. Accelerationism will destroy this country first. You're the dumbest accelerationist i ever spoke with. Is Israel paying you to post?
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>>533580620
>How do you plan on supplying Ukranny if you're also fighting like 3 other wars, retard?
You underestimate the power of the US. The truth is, we can win all these wars extremely easily. We've just been thinking of complicated ways to hold ourselves back.

When it comes to Iran, their only negotiating leverage is that oil. Once it's all gone? You can rain hell on them. I think you could achieve a civilian uprising. Plus the gulf states would be eager to attack them after the oil is blown up.
Regardless, from an American perspective? We don't really give a fuck about Iran. The only interest we have there is the oil. Sure we can keep them suppressed for Israel's sake. I think if we continued bombing and assassinating for a few years, they would tap out. Especially when their only negotiating leverage is gone.

As for Ukraine, that's not stopping anyway. That's Europe's burden. If they can't even handle that, they have no business existing in the first place. I think if that war started turning against them, they would freak out and plendge their undying allegiance to us.

For China? Once the oil is gone, manufacturing would rush home to take advantage of the lower prices here. China would start rapidly de-industrializing. It would cause internal conflict, and maybe that could be used to push the regime off balance.
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>>533580682
Don't argue with that literal retard. He unironically believes that an oil shortage and global food shortage will lower American consumer prices. You might as well be arguing with a telephone pole. The pole would have more IQ. He argues like a migger boomer. The kind that's calling for a draft, knowing full well it won't apply to him. In a just world, he would be lynched.
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>>533579997
>while Russia and China will create the civilizations of tomorrow
You should stop equating Russia to China in terms of contemporary and future civilizational output potential. The only things Russia has in 2026 are natural resources and a servile population that can be pointlessly sent to the meatgrinder. When it comes to creating and maintaining advanced civilization fucking Brazil has better future prospects.
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>>533580810
Lmao you assign me this label "accelerationist" and then you accuse me of not playing within the bounds of the label you assigned me?
I'm not saying we should burn down america. I'm saying, this would reshuffle the gameboard, into a configuration that benefits us. I don't think we profit directly, but the new gameboard would be one where we have a good set of advantages.
In general, I think scarcity of resources tends to benefit the right wing.
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>>533580682
Yes. We have enough oil. We would have low prices for America. The world? Wouldn't be so lucky. Fuck them.
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If he get out of this awkward situation, do you think he will make Bibi pay for this shit?
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>>533575288
There is no win position, the only out is to stop playing. He is retarded and doesn't want to save face, so there is an actual real possibility of unironic WW3 if he nukes them or something.

China and Russia know full well Iran is the edge of the cliff, and the nasty ass shit they do to them will be done to them in time. So if they go all out, they will get a real response from them.
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>>533575288

Leak some crazy CP from the Epstein Files incriminating at least 10 big cats and while everyone is distracted, get the ships back while pinky promising Iran they will never do it again if they open the strait.
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>>533580947
Notice whenever you listen to people talk about the importance of the oil in the Gulf, they always bring up "the international order" and "food shortages in India". They bring up these third world places that would be impacted. Nobody argues the US would be seriously impacted.
That oil, is the source of globalism. Destroy the oil, and globalism falls.
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>>533580877
>You underestimate the power of the US. The truth is, we can win all these wars extremely easily. We've just been thinking of complicated ways to hold ourselves back.
Ok that's it I'm done talking to you. KYS. You are everything that's wrong with USA. Retards like you are the reason Vietnam happened. You are Jewish and a boomer. You want to point your finger while I go get blown up. Only this time I'm killing you instead.

>offload Ukraine burden to EU
Precisely why they hate you now, you ogre retard nigger motherfucker

>manufacturing would rush home if China couldn't handle it
First of all, China would handle it. The prices on their goods would simply increase. You admitted yourself that they'll be fine with Russian oil. Second of all, if American industries all get nationalized, that's basically socialism. There is 0% chance that our economy would sustain itself if all manufacturing localized within USA. The line simply would stop going up. Stocks would crash, your 401k would disappear, then i would eat you, your family, and your dog. You have no fucking idea what the fuck is about to happen.
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>>533575288
I suspect impeachment is coming. Whether the Democrats initiate it or the Republicans. He isn't long for office.
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>>533575288
Like the Kobayashi Mary, the winning move was not to play
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>>533581045
Yeah you're a complete retard

>DESTROY the oil
>CAUSE worldwide famine
>I'm NOT an accelerationist
>USA would benefit!

>>533580949
The primary point is that there would be an empire of the future, but it wouldn't be Muttmerica

>>533581070
>We would have low prices for America
You also said the Epstein conspirators would be charged. All you do is lie.
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>>533575288
This Iran war is a giant psyop to move power back to democrats. Covid 2.0. Trumps approval rating is ridiculously low now.
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>>533581070
We have oil but our refineries aren’t built to process it, which is why we export a fuckload of shale and import the good stuff from the gulf. Congratulations on winning this by the way
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>>533581257
You think I'm jewish? Because I want the first world to triumph over the third world? Interesting thing to call me.

>China would handle it.
I think they could. But it also would create a lot more internal tension in the country. It would increase the probability of regime collapse. Not that it would even be necessary, since their world power status would start rapidly slipping.

>Second of all, if American industries all get nationalized, that's basically socialism.
I understand the importance of free markets, to motivate efficiency. That's not what this is about. This is about our country.

>Stocks would crash, your 401k would disappear,
Why would stocks crash when the US becomes the #1 oil producer on earth? We become the new Saudi Arabia, or UAE. Those are rich countries.
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Doesn't need one. We were in Afghanistan for 20 years. He's handing this one off to the next guy.
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>>533575288
Glass parking lot
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rope
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>>533575288
The sole goals of the war were to weaken Iran in some material way, put pressure on China and Russia, and insider trade. They’ve failed at all goals except insider trading.
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>>533581401
>CAUSE worldwide famine
hell yeah. We gonna starve em out. On Hitler's birthday week.
In all seriousness, the rise of the third world is a civilizational-collapse scenario that needs to be addressed. It's a giant guillotine over our heads that's slowly falling. We need to do something. We cannot let our civilization be swallowed. That is worth fighting for, by any means necessary.
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>>533575800
Israel has 10x as many nukes as North Korea does and their publicly stated millitary doctrine states that if they were ever to lose control they're nuking the world immediately
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>>533575600
We already have laws to restrict this, the Republicans that control Congress simply refuse to stop him.
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>>533579997
>Russia will create the civilization of tomorrow
lmao i cant wait to see this hyperborea
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>>533581453
>You think I'm jewish? Because I want the first world to triumph over the third world?
Literally yes, that's Jewish mentality. All you're trying to do is oppress the weak to prevent them from getting strong enough to challenge you. And you do it all for the glory of Israel.

>>533581453
>I understand the importance of free markets, to motivate efficiency. That's not what this is about. This is about our country.
You don't understand jack shit! You can't have a "free" market if you nationalize it. You need to take your brain medicine, grampa. There's no way you went to college. I bet you're barely literate to begin with. Just shut up already, everyone itt is laughing at how retarded you sound. You're an embarrassment to the country you claim to love. If you died tomorrow, USA would be better off. If everyone who thought like you died tomorrow, USA would actually become first world again.
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It's pretty obvious at this point that evil always wins. Only after evil wins and does its damage do people fight back. So the great reset is going to win, all the fat retards are going to vote for it, and after we lose everything, only then will people take action.

But probably not even then. We're just going to become a 3rd world shithole and eat bugs for eons.
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>>533581544
Your head deserves to be put in a guillotine. Everyone would be better off. Also, i hate to break it to you, but USA is third world in 2026
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>>533581708
>All you're trying to do is oppress the weak to prevent them from getting strong enough to challenge you.
Oh fuck off you little faggot. Seriously fuck you.
K-selected organisms proliferate as predators. Quality trumphs over quantity, only when they are willing to do what's necessary. We need a harder mindset, we need to get serious. Fight to survive, fight to live. Take what's ours.

>You can't have a "free" market if you nationalize it.
It's not a free market right now. It's all regulated anyway. These are big core national-industries, they're not little mom and pop businesses on a street corner. Grow up.
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>>533575288
Gun in mouth
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>>533575288
Suicide
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>>533581256
I think you might be right... BRICS shills are running damage control.
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>>533581256
You're just agreeing with him. If globalism falls that means the petrodollar is dead and the US collapses.

>b-b-b-but we can make everything at home we don't need anyone else!
Reminder all it took was for Xi to threaten to pull China's rare earth mineral exports for Trump to drop ALL of his tariffs on them. It's been more than a year and no new "deal" has been signed btw.
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>>533581659
Russians went to space first, don't forget
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>>533578885
>That won't end the war though
I doubt it. USA total surrender = Iran will go back to the norm.
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And everything is a giant psyop. Not even voting anymore, the only hope now is succession. Fucking boomers are still our politicians, worst generation possible.
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>>533581870
>Grow up
Ok boomer. Oh wait, you won't fucking let me! You want me to die in another one of your wars for Israel!
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>>533579092
Not quite. We export majority of our oil and import the heavy stuff. Why? I don't know, but we're nowhere near self sustainable with what we refine.
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>>533581963
it was funny during that timeframe as companies started scrambling looking to Vietnam to replace Chinese exports. Wouldn't have surprised me if the Vietnamese rare-earths weren't just whitelabeled chink shit either, kek.
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>>533582039
Sorry man, but no. USA could surrender tomorrow, but Israel would continue its warpath. And since USA are Israeli vassals to the end, USA would get sucked back into it. Israel would never allow us to surrender in the first place. Don't forget who calls the shots here.
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>>533582213
>but Israel would continue its warpath
let them do it alone.
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>>533575288
Nuke Israel, then India and Canada just to be sure. You can throw Mexico in there for insurance.
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>>533582245
Yeah and while we're at it let's get the Epsteinocracy out of USA without collapsing the entire nation. You're living in a fantasy world. America can no longer survive without Israel. If you remove the parasite, the host would die. You might as well suggest a fucking time machine.

>>533582291
USA needs Mexico badly
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>>533575288
Simple. Arrest Netanyahu to be tried in the ICC in exchange for the nuclear material and reopen the straight. Iran would 100% take that deal
Of course we know this whole thing has nothing to do with nuclear weapons so it won’t happen
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>>533575380
It coulb be that his friends are selling shorts. You can make money not just buying call, but selling purlts as well.
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>>533582437
>USA needs Mexico badly
Not with that Jew in charge.
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>>533581992
>Russians went to space first, don't forget
Soviets.

From the spaceport in Kazakhstan. With the help of Ukrainian engineers. With money and material resources robbed from the occupied area of 8,650,500 sq mi, you retarded bitch.
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>>533582095
You're gonna die from a chinese drone, the path we're on right now.
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>>533582452
If Bibi got shot tomorrow, it wouldn't fix shit. The cabal is the problem. The cabal doesn't show itself as public office figures. Same thing goes for Trump.
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>>533575288
Literally just kill them until they surrender. It will work, and we're going to get cope compilations to rival 2016 when they do. You retards were pretending that Venezuela was going to somehow resist too, Iran is a joke country and will break like the shitcolors that they are.
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>>533581590
Is it a cult? They surely realize that the financial instability caused from this will hurt their popularity with voters right? Surely it can't all be down to the jews? Why are republicans so afraid of trump?
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>>533582132
Looks like we're gonna be building a lot of refineries then. Supply and Demand baby!

Obviously if we prepared for this eventuality for years, we'd have all our ducks in a row, and there wouldn't be complications. But we have this opportunity right NOW to make a big change in the world. I think it's one we should take.

If we don't do this, we're going to lose to a gradual slide of globalism. Ro Khanna and his annoying voice preaching about "multiracial democracy", that's your future.
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>>533582625
A war with China would be fought in Hormuz. Do they have a fleet there right now, retard?
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>>533580949
>>533581659
hohols getting triggered will never stop being funny
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>>533575288
Only country that could realistically negotiate with Iran and US is India. But Trump humiliates everybody who comes into contact with him so there is 0 incentive for India to participate in this endeavour.
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>>533575288
Suicide is the only way out for him.
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>>533582780
No in the future, like within 10 years, they'll have these tiny little drones that swarm. They will be able to descend on a city, and destroy all life in that city. Like a roving band of locusts. That's the next step of warfare. Forget nukes, that's mass destruction right there.
Drones in space, drones in your bloodstream. They're gonna kill you. Launch all the nukes you want, AI powered drones will intercept it with 100% efficiency.
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>>533582565
So put her in the oven and leave the rest of Mexico alone

>>533582569
Russia was leading the effort and participating the most. Ukranians and Russians are the same thing, except the Ukranian language just sounds like a retarded version of Russian. Russians were in space first, with help from their Ukranian friends, among others. You can split hairs all you want, but it doesn't change shit. That would be like me saying "USA didn't walk on the moon, it was actually Israel". Tell me, is that a correct statement?

>>533582625
Yes, from a Chinese drone in Iran. Except I'm not going anywhere. You're not gonna get me to the front. Israel really can fight its own battles. Zoomers really are gonna sit this war out. I would rather kill myself than serve ZOG, and you can take that to the bank.
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>>533582168
I have some Viet friends and they say a good 25% of the shit that goes through Vietnam is just rebranded Chink stuff from the North trade borders anyways. China knows how to play the game.
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>>533575288
1. Nuke Israel repeatedly, Airports first, make sure ZERO survivors.
2. expel all American jews to Argentina or Mexico or whatever, that Fag-Flag Oblast in Siberia lmao
3. say sorry to Iran, pull out all troops.
Problem solved.
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>>533575288
>exit options
he dies mysteriously, JD vishnu becomes president and withdraws from the war, also fix economy. He becomes a popular hero
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>>533578062
>Trump will pay reparations
Best America can give is tribal casinos and no tax fire water. Were going to have some money problems and will be skipping the check. We can probably cut some reasonable trade deals to keep everyone happy or busy enough to not make the global economy worse.
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>>533582682
>USA won in venezuela
USA illegally arrested one dude. And the country hates USA more than ever. The plan was for an American take over, but all we got was one boomer spic and a few barrels of oil. America's win scenario in Venezuela is sucking their oil out. That hasn't been done yet.

>kill them
With what army? You think zoomers are gonna march? I speak for the zoomers, and we would much rather put YOUR head on a spike next to Bibi's, and his golems. You think zoomers are marching to war for Israel, kek lmao.

>>533582742
Americans really are that fucking retarded. It's a true stereotype, just like Americans being fat and brown.
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>>533582921
>Zoomers really are gonna sit this war out.
You're clinging to this identity as a "zoomer". I don't care about that. My identity is being broadly northwestern European. It's King Arthur, it's the famous scientists like Poincare, Galileo Galilee, Joseph Louis Lagrange. It's the sword in the stone, the claim to destiny. The future of starships and the power station on Mercury. It's heritage and destiny. not to be lost to the clutching ravenous hordes of the third world begging for another handout.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/f3kj9iPPTJxo
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>>533582910
We need better battery tech for that to materialize, and who knows how long that will take
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>>533583182
Ok boomer mutt
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>>533580620
jesus christ that faggot you're replying to needs to READ A FUCKING BOOK
what a retarded Gorilla Nigger if not Eglin or actually just a boomer
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>>533575288
>Create JCPOA 2.0
>Say it's 10000x better than Obama's deal
>Claim to have saved the world
>Cry some more about useless Europe
>Exit
whatever happens with the strait after that is on Iran, and Iran takes the heat.
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>>533583182
Lets be real youre a disgenic fat corn syrup fed retard which makes your larp that much more hilarious
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>>533582569
Poland certainly didn't help much.
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Trump either goes down like a bitch, or he blows up the oil. This is the deciding point.
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>>533575358
He kinda can't though. The war is going to destroy his political power but I think any passing glance at the circumstances would suggest that backing off of the war completely and letting it be an even more obvious loss would be worse for his political power.
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>>533583328
You think? I competed at the state level. I'm probably a better athlete than any politician currently serving.
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>>533575800
Getting rid of Netanyahu would solve most of this
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>>533583125
don't forget Venezuelan crude is of the sour kind, dunno if Murrca can even process that shit in an economically feasible way. Should've bombed Ecuador next door lmao, their crude is apparently sweet as shit for some reason.
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>>533583333
maybe we could, if you didn't join bolsheviks to go on a rampage to genocide White Christians who lived here.
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>>533581963
The person you're responding to is a complete retard. That nigga don't know if he in Dallas or Houston
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>>533582742
There's probably still a perception that Trump's seal of approval is still the lifeblood of an R campaign. I would bet we'll start seeing a lot more anti-Zionist R candidates in the future though.
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>>533581583
Ousting Netanyahu doesn't mean Israel loses control. They just get a government that isn't run by a psychopath hellbent on war and destruction. He's regarded as a war criminal by most countries and isn't allowed to travel anywhere except the United States without getting arrested.
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>>533581583
That seems unavoidable though. The USSR agreeing to lose the Cold War without blowing everything up was a testament to the maturity and restraint of the Russian spirit.

Israel is doomed and lacks the character to take that loss with grace. Something is getting nuked, just a matter of when and how bad it gets.
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>>533583472
said white christians in question
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>>533583393
Did you get dropped on your head during states? Because you clearly have brain damage
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>>533576076
Actually smartest move he could play because if he dies or fakes his death then jeet D Vance has to deal with his mess instead while keeping the ZOG on top.
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>>533583511
The midterms will surely be interesting.... We've already had one landslide for a dem in Florida of all places...
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>>533582569
Belters always have to show how butthurt they are whenever Russia is the subject.
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>>533583656
There's nothing you could say that's more comforting than witnessing the fact, that Germany is turning into muslim-nigger shithole in real time.

All the barking along the way is just a cherry on top.
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>>533583266
Not even joking, 80% of Muttmericans can't read. That nigga probably hasn't read 1 book since grade school. No, scrolling social media doesn't count as reading. I'm an older zoomer, and let me tell you. Kids in America can't read or count. It's impossible for us to defeat China at this rate.
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>>533583835
those are fucking jew-loving mutts, damn sure not white, dude looks like a goddamn freakshow and she is swarthy and probably does weird shit with blood
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This is gonna turn into Porkraine part 2 we will waste atleast 1 trillion in Iran their is no plan to leave
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>>533575288
He literally just has to hold out for two weeks.
Then congress will vote this whole thing illegal forcing him to pull back so Trump can blame the failure on the Democrats which was the plan from day 1.
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>>533581451
This. Plus there's always a 50/50 shot that refinery work shuts down in the gulf for 2 - 4 weeks during hurricane season. You can add in the fact that California keeps shutting down refiners too.

Additionally, if other countries and companies need to rely more on American crude, that puts upward pressure on prices since there is more demand.

Everyone loses here except for big oil companies that have most of their assets outside of the GCC.
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>>533583282
Iran isn't signing another peace deal with Israel. They would be retards to do it. Would you trust Israel and USA? Would you trust a Jew? Besides, Iran can't sign any treaty even if they wanted to, because their leadership is fragmented.
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>>533578677
Not for the world.
>Yeah but that's the world's problem
It's a globalized economy ya dingus, and more for us than for anyone else. What happens in China, India or the rest of Asia will affect us. This was all deliberate policy from the 90s onward, that interconnected economics would prevent war (and increase central bank penetration).

Wanting to be an autarky doesn't mean we're an autarky already.
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>>533575358
Backing off at this point would just signal to everyone that Pax Americana is officially over.
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>>533581583
I've heard Isreali estimates at 200 - 300, while NK is around 60.
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>>533575288
Nothing his ego will accept.
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>>533583361
Question wasn't what can he do to save face. It was what can he do to exit the war. You cant un-shit your pants.
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>>533575288
Mors voluntaria to retain at least some sense of dignity.
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>>533582758
The US is working on its first major crude oil refinery since the 1970s. We ain't building enough of those...
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>>533584242
I think the maximal policy there would be for him to resign, then. Take 100% of the blame, resign in disgrace, let someone else sweep in who will then be forced to pivot 360 degrees away from his policies.

I don't think orange man has the character for that.
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>>533583835
accusing others of what you're doing is quite jewish, Cryzlololozyzczowitz
you're the only country in the world still posting "xD"
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>>533584482
epic drawing. I bet you have a whole folder.
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>>533575288
30% of the US voterbase is balls deep in the must be war in the middle east because revelations bullshit.
He has no out.
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>>533575288
Planetary TKD going perfectly I see, I appreciate it very much. A+.

Everyone knows both everyone and he are hostage to the alien CIA. If only you knew the actual distance punished Trump is going behind the scenes. But yeah. Islam is a No but so is Judaism one and the say, and Christianity predating them both by billions of years and not Abrahamism. And everyone needs to shut up and stop, firstly You Israel, starting with you Mark Levin, with your do-it-my-way-or-else being a jew on ))))XCOM(((( with his phone in the middle of the night you Spiritual Bastard Satanizt.
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If the war continues and oil shortages start to happen, like the thing with the planes that are running out of kerosene and when people are forced to only buy certain amount of gasoline per week, then the pressure from public opinion will be too big and he will have to make some deal that reopens the strait.
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>>533577425
Tried finding a sauce to the iran negotiator strike from US and cant find it. Link sauce?
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>>533575288
Lift his head up high and blow his brains out live on tv
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>>533575288
test
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>>533584119
You are arguing with an actual daft boomer. You unironically might as well discuss Plato with your cat.
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Blood clot or aneurysm
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>>533575288
No options. Ukraine is cooked.
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>>533584143
It is fucking over. Zoomers aren't gonna go fight for ZOG at this point. And even if they did, they're a bunch of low IQ fat diabetic illiterate retard goblins who can't do 1 pull up and are allergic to everything under the sun. It's over, America chose this path. Boomers ruined the country, now they want zoomers to go die for it. Not fucking happening. As a zoomer, I say we must kill all American boomers.
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>>533575288
Ally with Iran and go after Israel and India.
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>>533584640
No such deal can be made. Iran has no leadership to make the deal with, and also they'd be really dumb to trust Jewish Israel and JewSA
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>>533575288
What if we just mine the strait? That might be funny. Then we just say well, we don't need to waste money here anymore. I am sure the USA has some cheesy ass mine that works multiple times too and maybe some drone that works on solar power and a machine gun just to shoot people trying to disarm them. Then you refill the boats and give everyone vacation time on foreign ports while Iran figures that out.
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>>533585040
It's important to make Israel do the dirty work. After all this is their war. The US should have plausible deniability.
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>>533585040
Holy fuck Americans are fucking dumb. You do realize this will negatively impact America's economy?
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If Trump was still of sound mind maybe he could give a big middle finger to the Israeli Lobby and Israel itself. but he's far gone now he's just a walking puppet
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>>533585114
There is no difference between US and Israel. Israel is the head, USA is the body. Is your body a different person than you?
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>>533585173
If Trump stops playing ball, Bibi releases the actual Epstein files and Trump goes to prison alongside his family.
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>>533585221
>goes to prison
wait back up here. who's going to investigate him again? the trump establishment is going to arrest trump? lmao literally nobody is going to go to jail for the Epstein Files because King Migger would be the first to go kek
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>>533585307
>who's going to investigate him again
The Epsteinocracy, duh. The people actually in charge? By the way, they really could just kill him at any point. Fuck investigations, they'll JFK him
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>>533585221
So would nearly every single jew, CEO, billionaire and politician in the world. If anyone cared about the files (they don't actually) it would be suicide for Israel.
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>>533580071
>Which could be done easily, by nationalizing our oil supply.
I wouldn't describe the political will to nationalize oil as "easy" in free market loving America, run by free market loving boomers. I doubt they'd even think of it as something they could do.

Even if you could, that doesn't solve the infrastructure problems of having sufficient refineries to actually keep pace with our high consumption, something we've been neglecting for years and actively preventing when blue ties are in office.

And without this lynchpin none of that other stuff is happening. I think moving manufacturing back here and re-employing our blue collar class is obviously a good idea, but we probably shouldn't step off this boat until we have another one to step onto.
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>>533585502
They'll black out everyone's name but Trump and the other sacrificial animals. Trump has very little true power.
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>>533575288

He telling people than he is winning....every day to end of his term.
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>>533585495
mossad assassination seems much more plausible. they could double missile tap him and miggers would probably cheer since he'll be replaced with Israeli sympathizer Vance
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>>533584761
I talk to the cat a lot actually...better listener than my wife.
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>>533575288
25th ammendment.
clear out the real estate agents and televion pundits.
get some adults in the room.
Pragmatism and diplomacy is as american as apple pie.
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>>533579644
Billions will die and you get hit right back, be it nukes or bugs idk, but wiping out a third of the worlds population willingly would replace the Holocaust myth as the greatest tragedy in mankinds history.
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Full TACO
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>>533576486
And that's what no one did.
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>>533575288
>What exit options does he even have for this war?
claim he was tricked by bibi
arrest bibi and deliver him to the hague for trial and say "ok, we cool" and bring our boys home
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>>533575759
I like the way you think.
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>>533575288
do I have to post it yet again?
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>>533576852
Well then there goes the Gulf and the global economy



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