ITT /pol/ will defend this government overreach
I will happily buy and sell tobacco products to anyone born after 2008
>>533589068OI, SO I CANT BUM A FAG BUT I CAN GET BUMMED BY A FAG INNIT?
>>533589068>government overreach>Feel good policy made by some idiot who will never have to implement the consequences Many such cases in UK politics.
>>533589068all nicotine products should be outlawed.
>>533589068This is a very good law, smokers are leeching on the healthier taxpayers as they use public health care more frequently and dying faster.
>>533589068Good, fuck smokers, they're all women and oversocialized normiesWe should ban drinking next
ITT: /pol/ will oppose a right wing conservative policy because a centre left government is responsible for it
>>533589292To be fair, smokers actually cost less because they die fast
>>533589331Relax Mohammed
>>533589292Smokers cost net less precisely because they have shorter life expectancy. They draw less from social security and care homes and other elderly medical care
>>533589068because we're so supportive of the UK, amirite?
>>533589378I'm ironically not a muslim, but I agree with a lot of muslim attitudesI'd also ban dog owners, at least in cities, because they're useless, filthy animals that shit everywhere
>>533589280https://news.sky.com/story/nicotine-no-worse-than-cup-of-coffee-report-10349589Fucking nigger.
>>533589068I smoke Djarum super. Once you smoke these you can’t go back to regular cigs. Wonderful taste and retrohale, it’s like smoking freshly shredded hay, it’s sweet, and super smooth thanks to the eugenol in the clove oil plus massive nicotine hit, you need to pace yourself with these. Typical smoke session is 15 minutes. Wish I had a fresh pack right now…
>>533589292they pay shitload in taxes and die faster so they leach lessfat fucks on the other side
>>533589292Negligible, most people are vaxxed, eat cancer and snort exhaust fumes all day.
>>533589068>>533589068So the British just made a blackmarket for cigarettes. That's real fucking smart.
>>533589068>2026>Doesn't smoke cigarettesAre you bullied, mentally handicapped or both?>b-but it kills youAnd? Was life a contest about who lives the longest?>it's addicting!!!It's not, as long as you're not under-aged and you can smoke in moderation>it's....IT'S EXPENSIVE!!!Who forces you to buy a pack every day, fucking peat-gavel
>>533589068They would never have the guts to go after alcohol.
Is UK going to ban drinking that is far more harmful? I went from drinking a half gallon of cheap hooch every 2 days to 1 can of 6mg nicotine pouches every day 3 days. My quality of life has vastly improved.What about the over prescription of SSRIs? >As of recent NHS reporting, over 8 million people in England are prescribed antidepressants, including SSRIs. This represents approximately 1 in 7 people. SSRIs (such as citalopram and sertraline) are the most commonly prescribed antidepressants in the UKYeah ban booze and zonking people out on Benzos and then come back to me about nicotine. If you're going to pick and choose based on popularity of a substance then you're just doing le political theater or theatre as the bong bros insist on spelling it.
>>533589280Where in the US Constitution does it allow ANYBODY to tell you what you can put in your body? I am pretty sure the 4th, 5th, and 10th all allow you to put anything you want in your own body.
the amount I smoked in my 20s I could have put a deposit down on a house
>>533589456Fuck off, muslim piece of shit.
WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE BILLION DOLLAR CEOS WHO SELL CANCER DEATH STICKS???
>>533589365>right wing conservative policy
>>533589456you know where the door is
>>533589456Literally you.
>>533589068ffssomewhere an austrian troon is smiling
>>533589670So heroin and fent should be 100% legal? Regardless of the social cost?
>>533589817>social cost
>>533589331>they're all women and oversocialized normiesthis bong doesn't go outside but I do not blame him
>>533589366>>533589393>>533589520>Getting expensive cancer treatment and being artificially kept alive for 5 years longer than you should have been is much cheaper than living to 85 and dying in your sleep one nightI don't think the math works out in the smoker's favor here even if he's dead at 60
The UK is like the film equilibrium or demolition man. Everything banned, your thoughts policed, your life curated and controlled. We're not living, we're existing. I want to live and I want to die, its time to abandon this cesspit.
>>533589456Be a lot easier just to get rid of you. You shouldn't make that a choice.
>>533589777Banning drugs is a right wing conservative policy, so is banning porn. /pol/ is just full of grievance addicted losers who just want to complain about the current thing.
>>533589950children of men was a good film shame about the nigger
>>533589068They are just making it more badass to do
>>533589068imagine one species of bird telling another species of bird how to live.Fucking scum.,. HANG THE CULPRITS
>>533589912>>Getting expensive cancer treatment and being artificially kept alive for 5 years longer than you should have been is much cheaper than living to 85 and dying in your sleep one nightNo smokers are dying at 60. Not from smoking.
>>533589292SMOKERS PAY MORE IN TAX AN ACTUALLY PAY FOR THEY HEALTH CARE, YOU RETARDED SHITHEAD
>>533589965>nooooo muh furbabyfuck off and live on a farm if you want a dog, redditor>>533589912do you have any idea how much shit goes wrong with people till they die in their 80s?smokers die really fast, like 6 months
>>533590011And more profitable for drug dealers. They should have learned from weed you can't ban something people can just grow.
>>533590096like 9 dollars a day in the US.
>>533589817Part of the reason society is collapsing after the Industrial Revolution was the push to keep dysgenic useless eaters alive to work in factories. As we move towards automation we don't need them anymore. We should encourage as many people to OD as possible so that the surviving genes are not amenable to addictive substances. We need some kind of pressure to weed out bad genes or you just end up with modern Weimerica flooded with shitskins who each have 10 children.If we had just let George Groid OD then the nation would be better off.In 5000 years Archaeologists will dig up Jimmy Carters simple pine box and George Floyd's elaborate gold casket and know once and for all that Niggers Are Actually America's God-King Pharaohs.
>>533590110I have a house, and I own a dog in case people like you show up. Shit, I think I'll get a second, bigger, stronger, meaner one and wear a picture of you while I beat it. Just in case.
>>533590232We tried that already. Why do you think there are laws against drugs in the first place?Drug addicts do not just die off, they become total drains on society forever.
>>533589817Don’t you realize that they already are? These are pharma creations, that’s why they’re here: they are legal to produce and distribute. “Uh oh some fell off a truck and got distributed” (generous assessment of drug mules flooding the border) but it’s actually totally fine because the Jews make money off their legality. Fentanyl is a political talking point for debates and justification to exert the will of the empire abroad, no politician is going to visit Philadelphia and make a speech. You hear it on the debate stage or during media rotations and never again, and that’s been the truth for at least two cycles. Much like Minnesota. You should look into the US government forcing Afghani farmers to grow opium.>a white blizzardIf you want to talk about social costs and be taken seriously then you need to start with segregation as the subject.
>>533590110my grandpa smoked for 80 years and he lived til 95, what the fuck are you talking about , nigger
British politicians are unironically retarded. All this does is axe millions in tax revenue and creates a black market for fucking tobacco of all things.Honestly just let the monarchy rule again at least they’re not delusional even if they are rich Germanic fucks.
>>533589950don't worry bongbro, we'll come save ya hopefully after we've saved ourselves w/some gunfu
>>533590355>arguing from a single data point for a statistical caseshow tits, femoid
we aryans born in 2007 truly won
>>533590323I'm saying it should be not just legalized but pushed onto the population. How countries can have MAID programs to kill off perfectly healthy people but ban fun substances funstances if I may is beyond my ability to understand.
>>533590232All of the "useless eaters" as you so eloquently put it, was due to the agricultural revolutuion of the 1940s and 1950s. As the food supple expanded the population did also proportionally. And now the cities and roads are all built, and the population is rapidly declining just as planned.
struck a nerve, muzzie?lel
>>533589068reminder that jews don't want you to smoke because it's healthy and increases testosterone.
>>533590436We tried that tooIt used to be that kids in parts of england were born, grew up and died as adults addicted to opium their entire lives
>>533589912>>Getting expensive cancer treatment and being artificially kept alive for 5 yearsnot happening in europethey just smoke till they die
>>533589912That happens to far more people then just smokers though (cancer or otherwise) it's just smokers typically go through it a bit more early
>>533590164>about 9 dollars a dayfuck that sucks...we get our smokes without tax stamps from the shrimpers @ the docks for $4 a pack or $35 a carton since they get food booze and smokes tax free w/agricultural exemptions, they make you take the celophane off though before you leave with them since no tax stamp and all=illegal
>>533590330>You should look into the US government forcing Afghani farmers to grow opium.They didn't FORCE them you dweeb they just didn't stop them.
>>533590426>born in 2007Yikes
>>533590436Get this man to the head of the CIA immediately, we’ve got another crackmancer in our midst.
>>533590516>It used to be that kids in parts of england were born, grew up and died as adults addicted to opium their entire livesSure okay...
>>533589280Nicotine is good for you. Addiction comes from the added ingredients.
>>533590586Why do you think drugs are illegal? They didn't start that way. A huge proportion of this country were opium addicts once. What do you think happens when it's legal?
>>533590542You can track their crop percentages over time dumbfuck - why do you think the opium crop has drastically reduced after we got booted out of the country?
>>533589672>didn't grow your ownToo fuckin' bad.
>>533590650natural selection happens when it's legal.
>>533589068There some code black.
Why the arbitrary date of 2008? Why not 2004 or 1998 or 1886? Just ban smoking, including vapes and the nigger's lettuce, full stop.
>>533590702jews realized fent can kill alot more white kids than heroin ever could so they diversified their portfolio in china and exited the afghan poppy market
>>533590793you can't select against having mu opioid receptors lel
>>533590650>Why do you think drugs are illegal?because its difficult for the government to tax the manufacture and sale of them, that's the only actual reason. the government doesn't actually give a fuck about your personal well-being or any potential community damage caused by drug users. heroin would be legal if the government could profit off of it.
>>533590928Correct - it’s the entire reason we left that country.
my god, the absolute state...I think that with few exceptions, everything should be over the counter. If I want to, I should be able to go to cvs and get anything, cialis, ivermectin, z pack, over the counter...Trying to regulate what people put in their bodies is antithetical to freedom. It's indefensible and fails to hold up to any number of other substances that would be "legal" but worse for you. Why not ban caffeine while you're at it? Where do you stop?Weed being illegal has always seemed retarded given that alcohol is everywhere, and far more dangerous, and consequential. They pass all these regulations, but it never has a desired effect. Like in Texas they're clamping down on the thc derived from cbd... wow... great move? No.. literally just driving people to the black market. People who were smoking the legal corner store cbd are now just going directly to a drug dealer who's operating outside of the system. Prostitution is in the same boat. It's made illegal, and all that does is keep the money in the hands of criminals. As if it's not 2026 and there's not a lot of girls willing to sell their body. Look at the porn streaming sites. Right now as we speak, thousands of girls are sitting in front of a camera in various states of undress with sex toys stuffed inside of them and people are paying money to vibrate their sex toys. All day long.Some girls probably make next to nothing, and are handing over their entire dignity by filming such acts. You don't even have to pay lol. There's more dignity in a girl getting a few hundred bucks to fuck another consenting adult. It's insane that the government attempts to legislate our bodies.
>>533590951no, it's because having 30% of the population being useless zombies makes it hard to govern them
>>533589515Faggot
>>533590650>Why do you think drugs are illegal?Because jews have taken the claim to own your body and all that you produce.
>>533591070what is freedom? it's deciding something with your own free will. but does a drug addict have free will?if you become a drug addict, you've lost your free will, the drug makes the decisions not you.the real meaning of freedom requires banning addictive substances so that your decisions are yours alone.this is also why pornography and alcohol should be banned
>>533589068holy kek
>>533590938>everyone is a drug addict no matter what!Funny because most people are smart enough to never stick that needle in their vein in the first place and the people who aren't need to be weeded out of the gene pool. It's quite simple and you're pretending it's complex.
>>533591085no its because jobless heroin addicts don't pay taxes, they just lay around all day. if anything it would make them incredibly easy to govern. your average heroin addict isn't gonna be out protesting in the streets or rioting because they would be too fucked up to even pay attention to what the government is doing.
>>533591205no dude.its the other way around. a free person can do anything they want. They can go anywhere. They can say anything. They can smoke whatever they want because it's their body. As I said, where does it stop?We suddenly care so much about the citizens health? With our poisoned food supply? Are we going to ban all items w\ too much sugar? Think of the lives you'd save, m8. So, we're going to just ban caffeine, sugary snacks, what comes next? You got a loicence to pull on your own pecker, m8? Who knows if your body can handle such feelings. Perhaps you need to apply for a loicence before you think about wanking that thing again.
>>533589211reported to gay communist death squad
>>533589068As a British American Tobacco and Imperial Brands shareholder, I strongly do not support this.
>>533590524it's sad more people don't realize you don't need gene therapy to beat most cancers barring the horrible ones like lymphoma and blastoma-whateverit'scalled that you see the bald kids on the commercials have. fasting + lionsmane/reishi/maitake mushroom and spore extracts can unironically destroy most tumors. hell fungi derived chitosan (low molecular weight chitosan, crustacean derived is high mol weight) alone can destroy/weaken/shrink over half of all known cancers, and for the really bad ones all you do is put gold nanoparticles in a solution of chitosan, then put that in a jewelry cleaner (sonicator) for about 2-3 hours, then mainline that shit in your veins and the chitosan will directly seek out the tumors due to attractive nature, attach, and deploy the gold which then kills it dead. ofcourse you'd want to do this in a flowhood or positive/negative pressure clean room to ensure sterility>While chitosan is widely recognized for its biocompatibility and role as a drug delivery vehicle, its intrinsic ability to suppress tumor growth involves complex biochemical interactions, including the modulation of nutrient availability and cellular signaling pathways.[1] [2] The concept of "starving" tumors through chitosan-based interventions often refers to the polymer's ability to disrupt the tumor microenvironment, inhibit angiogenesis, and interfere with the metabolic pathways upon which rapidly proliferating cancer cells depend.[3]
>>533589292I remember when my barber died 15 years ago. He was 96, 3 pack a day smoker since his teens. You know what killed him? Falling off a ladder.
>>533591349>a free person can do anything they want. as i said, does a drug addict have free will?they do not. the drug addict is not free to stop taking the drug. the drug is doing their thinking for them.you can't be free to sell yourself into slavery, and you can't be free to abandon your own free will, that's a contradiction.real freedom requires safeguards against conditions which stop you from being free, including self inflicted ones such as drug addiction.>Are we going to ban all items w\ too much sugar?fuck yes we shouldevery single employee of every snack food and processed food manufacturer should be imprisoned for their entire lives for destroying the health of the whole population and getting them addicted to sugarwe should treat sugary foods worse than heroin
>>533590938>you can't select against having mu opioid receptors leltouche! i grow kratom for that exact reason (havin mu's), well that and gettin people off dope and booze
>>533591441the sonicated gold nanoparticles form chitosan gold nanoparticles/liposomes, forgot to say the outcome
>>533591496>96, 3 pack a day smokerLmao. Your barber was a doppelganger of a German chancellor.
>>533591205>Arguing against freedomAnd this is why you freedom hating man-bitches like you should be forced to fight in a war in the Middle East.
>>533589068what the fuck evennot a smoker anymore but I want to take down five packs of marlboro reds when reading shit like that
>>533591398*Bribes you with cigarettes*
>>533591815>arguing in favour of drug addictioni hope you end up living around fent zombies
>>533591733He despised jews too. Old southerner, based as fuck when it came to being racist. I had to learn to cut my own hair after he died because I couldn't find another barber that wasn't some faggot with dyed hair charging $100 so they do a shit job while running their mouth about irrelevant shit and raining herpe spittle everywhere.
>>533589068I never had an interest in smoking until I noticed the unrelenting war on tobacco from the same group that pushes every other harmful chemical in food, medicine, recreation, etc. Now I've got a bag of harvested wild tobacco which I occasionally roll cigarettes with.
>>533591819Don't worry jew, you guys will always have smoking baby cocks.
>>533589068Yes, drugs should be illegal and the punishment for using, selling, distribution, manufacturing, etc. should be so ridiculous that it deters 99% of people.
>>533589068Welp, time to start smuggling some cigs to UK, going to be a big business.
>>533592016everyone thinks there's a war on drugs, but the punishment for drug possession is ridiculously lightif everyone who was caught with any amount of any drug whatever was given a mandatory 20 year minimum jail sentence i bet it would eradicate drug use
>>533589068Unspeakable evil is starting to happen in Britbongistan. Of course I will defend it, I want all anglokikes dead. A big thank you to Rothchilds and their puppet Keir Starmer. Exterminate these anglokikes and replace them with browns please. Thank you.
>>533591938go to a beautician college...tons of bitches that cut hair for grades and they don't charge over $5 a cut with the bonus being you get to choose your barber.
>>533590642exactly, only use natural tobacco products. For me, it's hand rolled cigars. Only two ingredients tobacco leaves and vegetable based glue
>>533592137>inb4 don't want niggers cuttin my hair it won't be filled w/niggers if you go to one of the beauty schools in the peckerwoods. mostly white women with a few mexicans
>>533592137I do it myself, takes 5 minutes and that's it.
>>533592086untill the 80's it was 5-20 years for a joint in most of america, mostly niggers got those sentences but yea, we've tried that
>>533589068Unfathomably based. At least they got one thing right.
>>533589068can't get a job, can't buy a house, can't have my own country, can't tell them all to fuck off out of my country, can't even smoke a cigarette. I can't even wait to die in this economic zone, what a boring shit place.
>>533592230fair nuff, i like the beauty schools because you get one of those manicure/pedicure massages by 2 students (one for each hand/foot) while getting your hair cut, shit makes my willy tingle
>>533592275nobody went to prison just for having a joint, it was drug dealerseven so that was a successful policy and reduced crime by a lot, you only stopped doing it because it was "racist" and now your cities turned into crime ridden shitholes again
If this goes through (it won't) they should impose a healthcare tax on fat people.
>>533592360lol tell me more about my country why dontcha. my uncle was a judge for 38 years in Texas, he sentenced niggers, mexicans, and low status whites collectively to thousands of years in prison...prob tens of thousands.>The severity of penalties in the 1960s and 1970s was rooted in federal legislation passed in the 1950s, specifically the Boggs Act of 1951 and the Narcotics Control Act of 1956. These laws established mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenses, including marijuana possession, often stripping judges of the discretion to offer probation or suspended sentences.[2] [3] Under these acts, first-time offenders could face mandatory prison terms ranging from two to ten years, alongside substantial fines.[2] While the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 eventually replaced these earlier statutes, it maintained a strict prohibitionist stance, classifying marijuana as a Schedule I substance with no accepted medical use, thereby ensuring that possession remained a criminal act subject to federal and state prosecution.
>>533592354Based. You do you. I don't particularly like people, especially when there's a high probability they have STDs and other shit going on touching me anywhere.
>>533591931look at that bong, everyone, and laugh.(probably a muslim jeet, tho)
>>533592086>>533592360Exactly, make the punishment ridiculous with a no patrol mandatory minimum. People will catch on real fast when 1-2 of their buddies who are 22 are now in prison until they're 44 because of weed, alcohol, cigarettes, etc. Prohibition would have worked if everyone caught drinking alcohol was given 20 years and those manufacturing, selling, and distributing were given 40 years.
>>533589068>UK creates a law to let 2009 niggers make absolute lodsa money
>>533591913or *anonymouse access to porn*
>>533589211>isle of menn
>>533589068Cigarettes must be good for you if they are going so far to ban them All kikes burn eternally in Hell
>>533589280Nicotine is an anti parasitic
>>533592554oh i feel ya on the std aversion. i member when that faggot ass queer greg luganis busted his head on the diving board in the olympics and was bleedin everywhere in the pool, my dad said every single person who was helping him on TV would be dead in 5 years because aids which was punishment for niggers and faggots behavior. that fuckin traumatized me. the foids @ beauty school do shit in a sterile fashion though so not really worried bout the herps or hep
>>533591931>i hope you end up living around fent zombiesThe irony is that when you're drafted and forced to fight in the Middle East, porn and drugs will be all you will have when (if) you come back. You'll be the fent zombie, and you'll deserve it. It will be your escape from the world that freedom-hating authoritarians like you have created.A war draft will set you straight.
>>533592802you are projecting your anxieties onto me, you're going to die on some desolate iranian hillside because every single one of your politicians is an abject zogslave
>>533589250Of course, you retard, one is a disgusting, selfish habit, that hurts everyone around you and society at large, while ruining your own health and wellbeing, and the other is just smoking a cigarette. What did you think the British government was going to support?
>>533592640we had dudes drawing porn for $20 a sheet when i was enlisted. i went with jessica rabbit squatting on my dick FPV, betty boop was popular too, mostly taking it in the ass for some weird reason
>>533592676It increases testosterone, which kikes have been quietly destroying since the 1980s. On average, men are losing a percent a year since they started tracking it in the 80s. It’s how you create a docile and ultimately infertile population.
>>533592744It's worse than that now, STDs are spreading everywhere, especially shit like HIV. We're hitting degeneracy levels indicative of severe societal decay. I'm allergic to degeneracy.
>>533589068So it's official, smoking is good for you.
>>533589068>Actual headline: UK creates tobacco black market for young adults.>Actual actual headline: UK demands youth live longer to keep paying taxes for old age pensions
>>533589068This is an unenforceable law which they will argue means they need more surveillance.The reason they are ramping up on surveillance is jews/elites have become so unlikeable they don't even like themselves and are descending into pernicious paranoia.
>>533589068Doesn’t tobacco smoking, even if it’s your own home grown and processed leaf, made with no added toxins or tar, still give you lung cancer?
>>533592967Betty Boop gets mogged by Toot Braunstein. Let me guess the Boop fags were all mexicans?
>>533591496
>>533589068Hitler, a labour party leader, strongly discouraged smoking.Starmer, a labour party leader, strongly discourages smoking.
>>533593252>oy we need to watchu on the loo so you don bum e fag!That is the actual point of this law. Politicians give zero fucks about public health.
>>533592598They did try those things.No one cooperated with the authorities.The government went so far as trying to give people mass methanol poisoning and it still didn't work.>They should have made them cooperateI am getting real sick of autists that fold under one person yelling at them saying we should forcibly make 80-90% of the population do something. Go touch grass.
>>533593252People were skinny in the past because smoking
>>533589068Bongs, fucking explain yourselves. I genuinely don't understand why you are okay with this kind of stuff? And don't tell me you aren't okay with it, because if you weren't, you'd be doing something to stop it.So what is it? What is it that just makes you bend over and take whatever bullshit your government chooses to shove up your ass? I genuinely want to know.>"Y-y-y-you're government does it to you too, b-b-burger!!!!!"No they don't. Yeah Americans have definitely become complacent about our rights, but nowhere near the level you bongs have. You faggots will literally let your government do anything to you.
>>533589068they basically just tax it out of existence here after banning it from all businesses.
>>533589456most people that own dogs or pets in general on average are not more likely to be a smoker/alcoholic than your average person. I'm not a 100% sure but i would bet dog owners smoke or drink quite a bit less on average
>>533592904>votes for jewish authoritarians>thinks that warnings are projectionYou'll reap what you sow, faggot.
>>533589068Fuck the tobacco jew
>>533593252>still give you lung cancer?Breathing the chemtrail air will give you lung cancer.
>>533589068Suprised the jews allowed this. They must be switching them to AI-addiction, porn, propaganda, etc, and getting the goyim hooked on drugs they sell might be passe to the filthy jews destroying the white west.
you can do that? just ban fags?
>>533593797>they did try those thingsThey didn't. Show me under the law where drinking alcohol ever carried a 20-year mandatory prison sentence. You can't because it never happened.
>>533593477>>533593805>>533594116Just literally a yes or a no was all I was hoping for, you bunch of limp dicks.
>>533593807What's the problem exactly?>social problem>government solves that problem with a lawAmericunts be like NOOO YOU CAN'T USE THE GOVERNMENT TO SOLVE PROBLEMS
>>533589211sounds bad business as I don't think they smoke a lot in muslim countries
>>533592967That sounds pretty gay. You’re gooning to something drawn with a man’s hand that doesn’t exist outside of his mind.But I guess the army is like that.
>>533594382>well yeah 90% of the country decided not to cooperate>and they did try to poison every drinker>but they didn't have my arbitrary mandatory sentencing!Adding methanol to alcohol is a de facto mandatory death sentence.Arguing that it isn't is very similar to arguing that the soviet union was not true communism.
>>533589515They're kretek / clove cigarettes.That's what most Indonesians smoke.
>>533594457>The bong gets defensive and actually sticks up for nanny state bullshit just because he took offense to my antagonistic toneI think I just got the answer to my question.
>>533594737>nanny state bullshityour government is run by pedophiles and they ordered you to die for israel
>>533589068Why would anyone support that?
>>533591122checked and correct. Clove cigarettes are for gays and edgy teens. Real men smoke these
>>533594599Who cares if the citizens refuse to cooperate? The cops arrest them for drinking, and then they are thrown in jail for 20 years. It's not that difficult to understand.>muh poisoningNon sequitur and you're literally arguing with yourself.>gets proven wrong>doesn't admit he's wrongThanks for showing that not only are you extremely low IQ, but also a child. I accept your concession. Thanks for admitting I'm right and you're wrong.
>>533589068OI, CITIZEN!HAVE YE GOT A LOICENSE FOR THOSE LUNGS?
>>533589068The amount of taxes people in the UK pay should easily cover NHS spending even if the smoking population was ten times higher but all the tax income is embezzled or spent on useless programs, fake programs or sent abroad as 'foreign aid'. Banning recreational activities that people use to cope with the absolute misery that is British life is another ludicrous dystopian move in a long long list of them by the British government. >Create dystopian shithole>People use small things like smoking, drinking etc to cope with the shithole you created for them>Ban their coping mechanisms
>>533594789>The bong continues to lash out with irrelevant whataboutisms instead of accepting any criticism if his own countryTruly a pathetic people. Chink bug people have more rights and personal liberties than bongs at this point.
>>533589068and just like the Prohibition in america that shit won't work either
>>533589211Based
>>533594457Shut the fuck up you little british boot licking faggot
>>533589068What is wrong with that country.When the same people who run the government also dictate what people believe and target any dissenters, is it still democracy?
>>533594826>we'll just arrest every citizen!The cops will either refuse to arrest their entire community or lose so much social authority and respect that the public turns on them.>muh poisoningAfter the government shut bootleggers down, the only alcohol left was indestrial alcohol. Which the government added benzene and methanol to. Around 100000 people died. It quickly became clear that we were on a path to killing the majority of the country.You also cannot refute that mandatory death is more extreme than mandatory 20 years, which is why you completely avoided the point.>You are big stupidThis is a petty attempt to get an emotional rise out of me.The reason you do not understand why prohibition failed is you view people as systems rather than organisms. Such a viewpoint suggests you spend most of your time outside of society looking in. Which is why I deduced you have little if no real social contact with the outside world.
>>533589068I wonder what kind of shit they're trying to poison people with that nicotine protects from
>>533595364>we'll just arrest every citizen!Strawman/10 Man, that low IQ just got even lower.>still arguing with himself from a non-sequitur that only he brought upAnd that even lower IQ just got lower. Impressive.>still refuses to admit he was wrong>doesn't even attempt to deny that he's a low IQ retarded childI already accepted your concession. Congrats, you also got filtered. Again, thanks for admitting I'm right and you're wrong. Keep replying, I won't see it. I know you'll respond, all low IQ retards do. Show me just how low your IQ really is.
>>533594524No hooka?
>>533589515Those are shit and designed for kids to get hooked and never smoke again after one pack.
>>533589662That would be antisemitic. Also the reason they hate tobacco is that whites/turks grow it.
>>533590122>not purchasing smokes from your local indigenous tribeShiggy Giggy
>>533589068>NOOOOOOOO I NEEEED MY GOYSTIIIIICKS>I HAVE TO POLLUTE THE AIR AROUND MEEE>I HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIIIIGHT TO FIFTY 15-MINUTE SMOKE BREAKS EVERY WORKING DAY>I CAN QUIT ANYTIME I WANT I JUST DON'T WANT TO EVER SMOKE LESS THAN A PACK A DAY>IT SMELLS LIKE ROSES ACTUALLY>HOW IS JOHN TOBACCO III GOING TO AFFORD HIS FIFTIETH YACHT NOW???>ACKCHULLY SWEATIE TOBACCO PRODUCERS ADD MORE TO THE ECONOMY THAN ANYONE ELSE, BOW DOWN AND BE THANKFUL TO OUR OVERLORDS
>>533589817Absolutely. There's 100% no filter even with the law. Fentanyl wood never be a problem if Roxys were legal and cheap, addiction is less an issue if the public is allowed to explore options that make breaking addiction easier(mushrooms, easing regimes for individuals with high tolerances, alternative substances the addict isn't familiar with that takes away withdrawal symptoms) Bring back quaaludes, I know doctors that miss that shit immensely, none of them were addicted and all of them loved it. Shit woulda been great for addicts or people turning to opiates to feel something different.
>>533589068That's awesome, they should do this for alcohol too and make it 1908.
>>533589068Smoking is brown coded or something
>>533589068I'm going to smoke a cigar right now.
>>533589515gudang garam professional is better. These are very nice for spliffs as well
>>533589456Petcucks are all mentally ill.
>>533589068God I love being an American, and I don’t even smoke
>>533595633>strawmanReality. Most people did not compky with the authorities during prohibition and puboic trust in institutions eroded.>another attempt at gettin a rise out of meyawn>yeah but you didn't admit that brawndo has what plants craveThis conversation is over.You are a social reject looking for an excuse to lash out at people.
>>533596477incredibly based screen cap
>>533589068Seems pretty unfair and arbitrary to take away rights from living people that cannot yet vote. Should be for those born after 2026.
>>533589366I worked in thoracic oncology, which is 90% smokers (maybe more).One dose of chemotherapy costs a few k€ and they need a lot of those. Then there are the lung surgeries (thank fuck they don't get priority for transplants), medication, radiotherapy, immunotherapy...But, most smokers don't get cancers, most get asthma and cough, and shitty heart and vascular health. It's like diabetes : shitton of associated diseases, but unlike the type 1 that didn't choose to get diabetes, all smokers choose to willingly inhale black fumes and then ask for healthcare.
>>533593807We just moved the smoking age from 18 to 21 and miggers were silent.>The federal smoking age in the United States was raised to 21 on December 20, 2019, when President Donald Trump signed the Further Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2020, into law.
>>533589255>consequences>cheaper healthcare for literally everyone>less accidental fires>less littered cigarettes>objectively improved air quality>boomers don’t light their money on fireGive me more consequences if that’s what they are.
>>533589068>hey, lets create a black market. how retarded are these fucks? what stopping someone born in 2007 from buying cartons then selling them to those born after 2008? also, doesn't an adult have their own choice? why stop at cigs? why not ban alcohol too for anyone born after 2008?
>>533597070That's fucking nothing compared to the cost of caring for some fat fuck with heart and kidney failure and diabetes for many years. That wouldn't even cover a month of full time care.
>>533597123>boomers don’t light their money on fireIt won't impact them, the way the law works is that it's only illegal to sell to anyone whose DoB is 01/01/2009 or later>cheaper healthcareAlternatively; smokers pay a lot in tax via duties on tobacco. They also have much shorter life expectancies than non-smokers, and so put less pressure on NHS geriatric services. Therefore, smoking is actually good for the NHS.
>>533597123In America they removed the ash tray from cars and replaced it with a 44oz big gulp holder and people wonder why Americans are obese.How much does that cost in health care.>consequences>cheaper healthcare for literally everyoneObesity problem from quitting smoking.>less accidental firesStop kids from playing with matches...>less littered cigarettesSoda containers and junk food containers thrown everywhere>boomers don’t light their money on fireBoomers throw away their money on soda and junk food.
>>533589068A small amount of tobacco smoke smell can cure gayness even if you are not smoking it British men are all absolute faggets and men not acting gay frightens them easily
>>533589068This is a good thing
>>533594405Nobody knows for sure, because first you'll have to find air that isn't full of chemtrails first, before anyone can definitively test it.
>>533597793Faggots*
>>533597228We already have a black market but it's the greater good. Eventually we end up with a society where nobody even starts smoking and it dies out. Most people start smoking by buying from shops, they don't search out the local scratetrs selling donkey shit filled fake junk.
>>533597123The government should kill everyone, no more humans = no more diseases ,fewer deaths, less waste, nature heals etc. I love the government
>>533589068Good. Ban people over 17 years old from playing videogames next. The social damage it causes is too high when they should be working.
>>533591496Probably lost his balance coughing
>You can smoke as much as you want as long as you quit by age 30.>It has virtually no ill health effects as long as you quit by 30.Governments and activists don't want you to know this.
>>533589280>>533589292>>533589331>>533589365For /pol/ and conservatives who talk about muh degeneracy all the time i can't imagine why they'd be against a ban that gradually phases out nicotine use. Maybe alcohol too. Why would you want the younger generation to get into smoking or drugs for that matter?
>>533599660>memeflag
>>533594524Muslims smoke all the time
>>533599707>tobacco shill
>>533599841I'm going to smoke whether its legal or not
>>533589068They want the zoomers to stay on the literal cancer stick vape things full of Chinese chemicals.Normal fags are so full of chemicals now too though. I am buying £20 packs now because the cheap ones taste disgusting.Fucking clown world.
>>533600009Good thing this only affects the next generation, not (You). Just don't do it in front of people or they're gonna get radicalized and take it away for everyone
>>533589292Sorrry but fat retard opinion.
>>533589366This.>>533589912Those people aren't dying in their sleep, though. Statistically they're getting obese, living ten extra years, THEN dying slowly of heart disease and cancer over a few years.
>>533589515Absolutely fucking revolting.
>>533589365>right wing conservative policy>the government telling me what to doyou should consider, and then follow through with, suicidethis mindset explains a lot about your shit island
>>533589211based freedom lover is based
>>533589211based
>>533589068>In the near future>"You look under the age of 80!"
>>533592709I’ve heard this but I would love to see some data.Sure is weird how anti-anti-parasitics the elite are.Someone drop the parasitepill.
>>533589292I’ve been eating unhealthy food my entire life and smoking for half of it. Less health problems than anyone I know.Could be a coincidence, but I believe it to be a cohencidence,
>>533589211Right on, brother.
>>533589292>use public health care more frequently>dying faster
>>533589211Based.
>>533589664>Is UK going to ban drinkingThey're Muslim so perhaps.
>>533589365>conservatism is when no fun
>>533589068That's modern liberalism see:socialism though
>>533596477>anons just posting raw schizophrenia now and calling it based.If you don't have empathy for animals, you are brown and that's it. Say that kind of unhinged shit to people's faces and watch them walk away from you because in the real world, no one thinks dogs are enabling white genocide. Makes me nearly ashamed to call myself human with the sheer raw mental gymnastics some of these retards cook up to validate their mental illnesses.You kill your dog, then what? Women are suddenly going to like you? White children are magically going to grow on trees? Your girlfriend is going to watch you rip the head off her chihuahua and suddenly drop her panties and bend over, screaming "INSEMINATE ME, YOU WHITE STALLION YOU!!!"Absolute fucking utter retarded drivel. If you ain't got kids now, killing your dog is not suddenly going to make you appealing to women, you may as well just kill yourself rather than an innocent creature that can't comprehend you are having a mental breakdown over not being able to fuck.
>>533589068How the fuck do you even enforce this?Is the pakiboss going to check for ID of every person that buys a cig/vape?
>>533589211Oi m8 u got a loicense fo bein based?
Tobacco should be phased out of society>Smoker of 22 years with copd
>>533600134Thats why all the 2X young guys are all baldcells now. Saw a kid the other day with a class of 2026 jersey that was already like Norwood 3, fuck me
Jews trying so hard to ban tobacco that I actually think smoking is a good thing.
>>533589068If you think banning smoking is a bad thing, it might explain why you're single and universally disliked by everyone that knows you.
>>533589912Do you not understand how many times an average 80 year old goes to doctors appointments? It’s like their full time job at that point.
>>533589068The poisonous smoke jew must be eradicated
>>533589250Hahah perfect.
>>533589292fat people should be illegal
>>533589068that include weed? lol, slaves get nothing, hahahahah
>>533589068>be /pol/>life is sacred ban abortion>also i think we should let kids smoke>but fuck am i paying for their healthcare when they get lung cancer let them die
>>533603112>having the freedom to choose what you imbibe is exactly the same as murdering a fetusLooks like the anti-smokers lose again time to archive the thread cya tomorrow chomos.
>>533589068Parliament is sovereign, there literally can not be government overreach in the UK.
>>533597123>nanny stateyou forgot one ranjeesh >>533589912absolutely fucking noting compared to the elderly dying. they take ambulance rides once a week to the ER a decade before passing and that's only in their final years
Smoking doesn’t kill you. All the cool kids smoke.
>>533599660How hard is it to understand I want the government to fuck off? This isn’t a conservative standpoint. People should be free to kill their self’s with fent. Or Tabacco or whatever else. Everything kills you these days. Fucking Wi-Fi radiation.
>>533603921My parents were heavy chimney smokers. I have lung problems. It's not always a personal problem.
>>533589292They pay in more than they take out. Tobacco is close to 95% taxes over here. Fatties cost us billions each year.
>>533589068How doesn't this fly right in the face of age discrimination laws? Doesn't a law become void if it forces you to break another existing law?
>>533603418>i chose to smoke of my own free will>not because i was peer pressured or thought it looked cool or advertising zogged my brainsure bud you're a free thinker
>>533605212I've probably smoked less then 5 cigs in my life. I've never done heroin or fentanyl but i think we should make them easily accessible as well. The fewer useless eaters on the internet the better.
>>533589515Beedies...shit I haven't seen clove suckers in years
>>533605880>the fewer useless eaters on the internet the bettermake a start and rope yourself, you'll significantly make my internet better.
>>533589068so it's like, for life?not just, for like two years until they're 18?but old people get to smoke as much as they want?are they gonna have the guy in the bee costume make the arrests?
>>533607036oh sorry theyre already 18
>>533589515Obama banned these, also banned in Canada. I'm not driving all the way to Mexico to buy some
>>533589068If you are bothered by this you're too young to be posting here
>>533589068National socialist policy, ein volk ein reich, herr Starmer
>>533607036it's going to be really funny when we arrest 40 year olds for underage smoking
>>533589250kek
>>533589211i thought your government booted you guys off 4chan? what gives?
