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Why doesn’t Mao get the same type of love as Hitler
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bug
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Didn't kill any jews
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because he is a fat chink
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>>533597996
Neither did the other guy
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>>533597843
Because Hitler secured global American dominance, not Mao.
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>>533597843
Design is mediocre at best
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>>533597843
Not handsome like the fuhrer and I
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>>533597843
hitler's name doesn't sound like he eats dick.
>mao ze dong
yes, he does.
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>>533598167
the other guy at least named the jews.
mao was a grifter that only great at killing his own country men.

funny that his doctrine was so bad they had to replace it, twice actually.
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>>533599164
Mao saved China from being America's slave.
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>>533597843
Hitler was a better leader. Mao starved his own people. Hitler at least was doing ok before he started getting btfo in the war
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The German language. so aggressive, makes great war propaganda and a bogeyman when you don't have a clue what they are saying.
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>>533599261
>Mao starved his own people
buddy, you need to lay off that propaganda shit
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>>533598167
well, first of all Hitler pinpointed and corraled the jews as much as he could, then he gassed quite a few -not enough clearly- so you know...
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>>533599415
>dies of cringe
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>>533597843
Hitler actually cared about his people
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>>533597843
>orders all the birds killed for eating part of the food
>pests the birds kept in line eat far more of the food

>orders everyone to melt down their farming equipment and any metal in sight to "make steel"
>mass famine while everyone makes useless pig iron

Mao was retarded
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>>533597843
mao is actually jewish
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>>533599234
nah, it's typical of china dynasty founder emperors: they stole all the glory of the fellow comrades then claim that he did all the stuffs.

for your westerners to easy understand it: just like stalin erased all other important figures of the communist party. mao did the same shit.
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>>533599261
>Mao starved his own people
Mao was a leader in the revolution that overthrew the feudal overlords who used routine starvation as a measure to reduce the occurrence of peasant rebellions (because banning education and circulating cannibalistic superstitions wasn't effective enough as suppression).
Communists ended a steak of there being a famine every year for two thousand years under imperial rule; now fascists obsess over the last famines that occurred while the country was being rebuilt because they don't happen nowadays.
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>>533599662
A bit like how the CCP has been slowly but steadily convincing the chinese that the CCP&mao werent actually a bunch of cowards hiding out in the mountains while the japanese where in control of china.
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>>533599801
>they don't happen nowadays.
china in 2026 is no more "communist" than the US is "free market capitalist"
those labels mean nothing anymore, it's just all mishmashes of whatever works on the local populace, given opposing labels for geopolitical kayfabe
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Coz he was the enemy of his own people. Same as that idiot Pol Pot. Hitler didn't kill the intellectual class like these retards did
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>>533599991
You're utterly retarded
The entire reason wealthy Chinese send their kids to the US for schooling is that you can't buy your way into China's top schools which use pure merit for their selections process. That's the difference between socialism and capitalism.
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>>533599801
>KMT
>feudal overlords

And ofcourse, the situation now is much better with the local ccp party member ruling over you like a king and having his personal army of goons who will beat the shit out of you if you act out of line.
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>>533600103
>The entire reason wealthy Chinese send their kids to the US for schooling is that you can't buy your way into China's top schools which use pure merit for their selections process.
how does that disprove what I said
>it's just all mishmashes of whatever works on the local populace
they're used to communism so they get communist flavored mishmash garbage
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>>533597843
His name was Chairman Mao
He walked in style, made his people smile
He was the leader of a China town
He walked in style, made his people smile
Now he's lost as a leader
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it's not some "r-real communism hasn't been tried" argument, they're just not actually communist
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>>533600115
Yes, far better than rule under the nationalists who traded opium for guns/funds with the Americans during WWII to support their regime. Nationalist China was the first narcostate, and the communists put an end to it.

>>533600231
You're screaming at communists that they're not actually communists because they don't match your special snowflake definition of what communism should be, that you've made up as someone who hates communism.
You're a retarded child throwing a tantrum.
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>>533597843
Loved by chinese, commies, and american "socialist" even blacks like LeBron.
WTF are you on about commie
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>>533599801
>routine starvation as a measure to reduce the occurrence of peasant rebellions
wrong. peasant rebellions happened because of starvation. chinese peasants were actually docile as fuck.
but you are right that the overlords welcomed the famines, because when the peasants dont have any rice to eat, they are forced to sell all the assets: their children, their animals, then their lands, for cheap. after a few centuries, all the lands belong to rich feudal lords, the country collapsed, revolutions happened kill all the landlords, and the peasants one again own some land.

that reminds me, US now is in its end of the cycle, too. the jews are purchasing all the farming lands, leaving nothing to the poor farmers.
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>>533600344
>You're screaming at communists
well I'm talking to you, so, you're a communist? I thought "screaming" was caps?
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His legacy of success is hard for creepy anime rightoids to relate to. They only understand losing.
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>>533600304
It's more like a worst version of a cyberpunk capitalist nation with a slave class who thinks they live in a communist nation.

>>533600344
>and the communists put an end to it.
Lol, next your going to say that the CCP ended poverty in china.
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>>533600423
Your worldview of no one having real ideology but just politics flavored mush is the hysterical ranting of a 12 year old who learned about communism from illiterates on the internet

Granted, every anti-communist is dumber than a box of rocks by default, but you're especially dumb
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>>533600619
Wow, reposting shit from reddit
Maybe you should go back
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>>533600619
essentially

>>533600643
>Granted, every anti-communist is dumber than a box of rocks by default
so, you ARE a communist? no wonder you're so upset, calm down
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>>533600619
they did the good job though. 1 billion people out of poverty, railways and highways every where.

even china is collapsed right now they still have the infrastructure to recover after sometime.
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have a snickers or something, I hear you communists have low blood sugar regularly
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>>533600775
I wouldn't really consider myself a communist because it's rather vague as a label unless you pin it to a specific context.

But since I don't eat up propaganda from the Epstein class I don't hate communism like a drooling retard. Anti-communism is the ideology of the cattle of the western empire ruled by pedophile fascists.
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>>533600103
The gaokao is not a communist idea. It's thousands of years old. In fact Mao ended the gaokao and it was brought back after he died.
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>>533600936
>I wouldn't really consider myself a communist because it's rather vague as a label
so, this is a "reasonable statement"
YET
>>533599991
>those labels mean nothing anymore, it's just all mishmashes of whatever works on the local populace, given opposing labels for geopolitical kayfabe
this is "hysterical 12 year old ranting"

ok tryhard
you will never be a real troll
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>>533601034
See how you had to leave out my words "unless you pin it to a specific context"
That's because you're the troll
Why do you troll by promoting the same pro-pedo, anti-communist propaganda that the Epstein class has been teaching you since birth?
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>>533601129
>>those labels mean nothing anymore, it's just all mishmashes of whatever works on the local populace, given opposing labels for geopolitical kayfabe

>this is "the same pro-pedo, anti-communist propaganda that the Epstein class has been teaching"
try hard III: a bad day to try this too hard
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>>533599261
China's economic malaise during the Mao era was caused not so much by Mao personally, rather by political infighting and the need for extreme military-industrial investments to prepare for war with the USSR or USA. Just like Stalin had seized agricultural assets to fund a rapid industrialization, causing famine as a by-product, so did Mao, except the resources were spent quite sub-optimally in China because of the "Third Front" strategy.

The "Third Front" project consumed over 40% of national investments during a 16 year period. The air raid shelter construction and missile program was also extremely expensive.
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>>533601233
You're the one trying so hard you've dipped into an image folder to try to piss me off
What's the size of your folder? How much of your worthless life have you wasted saving pictures to try to troll people?
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>>533601349
>you've dipped into an image folder to try to piss me off
why would pictures anger you? and how could one anger you more than you already clearly are, over nothing?
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>>533600115
The reason Xichang spaceport was built far inland was to make it harder for the USSR or USA to attack it in case of war. It's supposed to be phased out and replaced by Wenchang spaceport. However, Wenchang spaceport is designed for China's newer rockets that cryogenic propellant, and those rockets have kept hitting production delays and snags. Now, China's imminent transition to reusable rockets is making the issue of first stage disposal kind of moot anyway.
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>>533601740
So it's okay to drop rocket stages on people in the meantime?
You chinese really care little for humanlife do you?
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>>533601437
What's the size of your folder of saved images for trolling?
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>>533601925
Everything is a trade-off. Is it okay to put the country at greater risk of not being able to launch satellites to geosynchronous orbit? With the technology at the time, for the PLA's ability to communicate via satellite, geosynchronous orbit was absolutely critical.
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>>533602096
Why would it matter, so long as he's giving them away for free?
That's a fundamental principle of communism, right?
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>>533602096
why would you think I was a troll? do you feel trolled? are you desperate for some report excuse or something?
literally imagine
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>>533602294
lel
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>>533602324
>>533602294
The size of the folder would show how much of your life you waste trolling, that's why you'll avoid the question at all costs
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>>533602676
>What's the size of your folder of saved images for trolling?
0kb
I don't save anything for "trolling", only for posting
how much can one save a year without being "pathetic", to you? so you could determine how many years were spent based on "folder size" ?
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>>533597843
Because the whole world didn't unite against him to stop him from doing what he wanted to do, so there's no room for "what if he was actually right?"
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like say hypothetically someone had a 7gb meme folder, would that be 7 years, so 1gb a year?
and where exactly was this conclusion reached, did you come up with this formula on your own?
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Mao spearheaded the Chinese Cultural Revolution. He had almost everyone of affluence in China murdered, leaving behind retards. He then became the King retard. He was a self aggrandizing retard also. People worshiped him. China was going through a grain shortage. Mao saw a bird on the side of a field eating some grain seeds. He decided to have the Chinese people kill all the birds they saw, to stop the birds from eating the grain. Any other retard would think that although birds eat seed, insects are their primary food source, but hey he is King retard. The birds were decimated. This let the insect population thrive and flourish. The insects then decimated their grain crops. This led to millions of Chinese deaths, due to famine. He doesn't get the same recognition internationally because Mao's accomplishment was killing his own people out of incompetence.
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>>533597843
Because he was a complete fucking retard.
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>>533602970
>He had almost everyone of affluence in China murdered, leaving behind retards.
This is actually not true and is the difference between Stalin and Mao. Stalin successfully murdered every single competent party member, leaving behind a group of absolute retards and dooming the USSR upon his death.
Mao was relatively light on executions. He kept competent officials like Zhou Enlai around until his death, and guys like Deng Xiaoping, who would have been murdered in USSR, were only demoted or exiled in PRC and were thus able to take power and fix the country after Mao died.
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>>533602876
seems we'll never know his formula for determining time spent on IBs by meme folder size
could have revolutionized tryharding as we know it
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>>533599801
Mao adopted non-scientific farming methods from the Soviet Union (Lysenkoism) and added his own retardation. He knew people were starving but continued to export food and refuse outside help from other countries. The famines that had occurred before were caused by natural disasters or war, not deliberate stupidity.
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>>533603364
Hey, wait a sec, that image you just posted is 132kb
I'm beginning to question what your real motives are in all of this.
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>>533603763
unfortunately I seem to have misplaced my 4mb 100x100 "how to troll /b/" image
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>>533599801
The great leap forward caused a huge amount of unnecessary starvation. Mao set completely unrealistic goals for production and incentivized lying to meet quotas, which led to millions of peasants starving out of sight out of mind. When the extent of the fuck up became clear Mao took a step back from the day to day affairs of running China and took on a more ideological, big picture role, while leaving actual competent officials like Zhou Enlai to clean up his mess.

In 1975 near the end of his life China had another couple of years of poor harvests, and the peasants, remembering the fucking disaster that was the great leap, began decollectivizing and privatizing their own fields despite the risk of imprisonment or execution because they were so desperate, and party high ups like Zhao Ziyang and Deng Xiaoping encouraged them to do so, even though it was formally illegal
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mao fucked up hard later in life and almost destroyed his legacy
he still gets lip service because he's the revolutionary in their foundation myth, but it's the reformers who saved the country from collapse
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>>533604180
>Mao set completely unrealistic goals
So, no malicious motivation
>When the extent of the fuck up became clear Mao took a step back from the day to day affairs
And course correction
>and party high ups like Zhao Ziyang and Deng Xiaoping encouraged them to do so, even though it was formally illegal
And flexibility from the leadership to meets the needs of the people
Why am I supposed to hate communists when they're doing the best they can?
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>>533604396
Because Mao then spent the last ten years of his life terrorizing everyone who attempted to actually create a functional economy. 2/3 of the party was purged. Universities were shut down for 4 years. Scientists and teachers and party members were dragged through the streets, beaten and humiliated, at the whims of vindictive youths. Civil wars broke out with factions of teenagers shooting each to death in the streets. The Chinese economy was stagnant from the beginning of the great leap until Mao's death 18 years later. The CCP successfully managed to scapegoat the Gang of Four for his reign of terror to keep their legitimacy.

Anyways I do not hate the Chinese "communists" but I do think they are really just authoritarian capitalists and that Mao was mostly retarded as a peacetime leader. Zhou Enlai was the man responsible for salvaging Mao's retarded whims into semi-functional policy, and at the end of the day the best thing Mao did was leave a centrist Hua Guofeng as his successor and left rightists like Deng and Ziyang alive so they could rise to power after his death.
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>>533604396
so was it 1gb a year? or no
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>>533604862
>Anyways I do not hate the Chinese "communists" but I do think they are really just authoritarian capitalists
Where did this brain rot originate, anyway?
Every right wing retard on the internet seems to parrot this now lol
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I think he filtered me
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>>533605084
China was one of the poorest nations on earth when Mao died and then experienced 40 years of 8-10% growth by transitioning to a full market economy with 30% state ownership. China has very little in common with, for example, the USSR.
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>>533605267
I asked who started this retarded narrative, not for more bullshit
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>>533597843
You mean Deng Xiaoping. Mao brought communism and death to his people. Deng brought National Socialism and prosperity and respect.
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>>533597843
Xi is more respectable.
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>>533597843
Because he was just an uninteresting tyrant like Stalin, a psycho who committed mass murder for the hell of it. And he was probably also a Jewish puppet, like Stalin.
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>>533604396
>So, no malicious motivation
Killing people for no reason is malicious motivation.
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yup, definitely filtered
literally imagine
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>>533604862
>The Chinese economy was stagnant from the beginning of the great leap until Mao's death 18 years later.
That's not true.
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>>533605627
The manchurian affairs

What happened there who's fault was that?

If you can't answer that you may as well tell me how the birds died and they got a famine
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>>533605395
Can you define what would make China a "communist" country as compared to a capitalist one? Is it just the party name, or the lip service paid to Marxism, or what? The fact is that policy wise they have almost nothing in common with with the ML states of the 20th century. Pretty much all policy since Deng Xiaoping has been focused on enriching the nation through capitalist economics and calling it "Chinese socialism". I am aware communism requires build up of productive forces and whatnot but I have a hard time believing a party as pragmatic as the CCP genuinely believe they will someday achieve communism.
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>>533605657
Those years of negative GDP growth from the great leap and cultural revolution, plus the uneven develop favoring the cities meant that for the average peasant life was more or less identical in 1976 to how it had been in 1978.
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>>533606026
*1958
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>>533599801
>Mao was a leader in the revolution that overthrew the feudal overlords
Wrong. Mao was a revolutionary that got the working class together to establish a new government with the help of Russians and modeling it after the ussr.
The feudal lordship ended with dowager and the remaining generals were just bandits.
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>>533606026
>>533606069
Uneven development between cities and countryside is something that has happened to every single industrializing country in history. If anything, this phenomenon was less pronounced in China during Mao's era, because he specifically set to equalize them, both for equality and also for military reasons: he expected a nuclear war to happen and figured that the big cities would be annihilated, and that the countryside should be able to continue without the cities. The Great Leap Forward was a short-term disaster, yes, but most people don't realize that on the long term it led to successful small-scale industrialization of villages in the 60s and 70s, after they corrected their initial stupidity.
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>>533606213
Mao's point was that the feudal system had not ended and that british historians were wrong and ill intended for saying it had
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>>533598167
Sadly.
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>>533606278
>he specifically set to equalize them
>led to successful small-scale industrialization of villages
Collectivized farming and communes were largely a disaster. Industry and enterprises developed in opposition to government policy in areas where the party looked the other way. China was only 15% industrialized by 1976 when Stalin, the man whose system they were trying to emulate, had built the industry that won world war 2 in the same span of time.
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>>533605746
>but I have a hard time believing a party as pragmatic as the CCP genuinely believe they will someday achieve communism
Most Marxists don't since the entire point is that real communism is a utopian stateless future toward which capitalist history trends because the motivating sentiment for socialist revolution is the result of the conditions capitalism creates. Marxist theory is an analytical framework, not a religion with a minimum required dogma. They call it Chinese socialism because it's the result of theorists going, "Hmm, how do we actualize the goals of socialism in a world where states and capital still exist today and will still exist tomorrow?" That's why it's silly to apply any kind of purity testing to communists when the entire thing is supposed to be pragmatic adaptation for utopian goals from the start.
Like yeah, executing oligarchs who piss off the party while the west is controlled by child trafficking warmongers gives China plenty of credibility as communist in my eyes.

>>533606026
Except that they wouldn't be killed for going to school, and as resources made schools appear in places where they had never been build before those peasants were invited into them (there are some fantastic short stories from the period about lingering class/caste/profession related bigotry). Educating the liberated was one of the pillars of the revolutionary movement right from the start.

>>533606213
>>533606335
Again, the perfect example of this is how the nationalists funded their resistance against the communists by creating famines through forcing opium production in order to trade with the Americans using the very same pilots and cut-out airline company that the CIA would later use for cocaine smuggling flights from their puppets in the American narcostates.
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>>533606819
>the west is controlled by child trafficking warmongers
aka "he buys into the facetious notion that china is "unkiked"" just because asians are far less receptive to the mass immigrant bullshit all around so japan, that's been a us puppet state for 80 some years, is just now starting to get the first waves
chinks don't give a fuck about a chink kid drowning in front of them so of course they don't care about muh refugees
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>>533607093
>chinks don't give a fuck about a chink kid drowning in front of them so of course they don't care about muh refugees
Okay but when you say things like this, you're just pointing out that the reality here is you're a neonazi pedophile ranting obscene racist vitriol. You wouldn't care about someone drowning in front of you, you're a soulless piece of shit. Unless you think of a way to profit off the drowning or you wanted to rape the kid, you'd just point and laugh.
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>>533605708
Whatever historical event you cite doesn't change the facts of what Mao did. He already won but decided to go a step further and slowly starve his political opponents to death.
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>>533606803
>Collectivized farming and communes were largely a disaster.
They weren't. Agricultural production went up massively to the point where people in China looked visibly fatter and healthier in the 70s than in the 50s and 60s despite having 200m more people.

>Industry and enterprises developed in opposition to government policy in areas where the party looked the other way.
Bullshit, most of it came from state programs since they had the funds.

>China was only 15% industrialized by 1976 when Stalin, the man whose system they were trying to emulate, had built the industry that won world war 2 in the same span of time.
Stalin was a genius, and I'm not shitting on his legacy, but Russia started in a better position than China did, and also had 5x fewer population and more resources. They're not really comparable.
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>>533606819
It's not purity testing. The party members who came to power after Mao's death were all traumatized from the cultural revolution and were fucking sick of the constant ideological debates and witch hunts and fully 180d Mao's economic policy. You keep using terms like Epstein class which show that you aren't even a knowledgeable Marxist you're just some Maoist third worlder retard using talking points like "the more billionaires you purge the more communister you are".
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>>533607428
>his political opponents
The political opponents of the revolution were slavers and thieves who all deserved extermination, just like the Epstein class in the west and every white trash loser for laughs as he votes for a genocidal pedophile because he hopes to one day join the team of childfuckers himself
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no one cares about non whites on the other side of the world
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>>533607365
>Okay but when you say things like this, you're just pointing out that I completely ignored explaining my dumbass trying too hard logic, and didn't actually filter you >>533602775
>>533602876
>and now am even more upset that you made me reply and out that I'd not filtered you
so what IS your formula for determining time spent on IBs via "meme folder size"
inquiring minds want to know

or did you want to ACTUALLY filter me now
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>>533607571
They always promise them 55 virgins or some shit
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>>533597843
People say Mao killed 60 million people but it’s also a lie (just like Hitler’s count). There was a war, the weather caused a famine + admittedly a bad policy in the 60s. While the Chinese government never officially conducted a study of how many people died, estimates range from a couple to a few million. Obviously it was some western Jew who came up with “muh 60 million were personally killed or starved to death by Mao.” It’s retarded. Where are the bodies of the 60 million? Where are the bones? How the fuck could 60 million people starve to death?
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>>533606819
>Except that they wouldn't be killed for going to school, and as resources made schools appear in places where they had never been build before those peasants were invited into them

Many were still prevented from going to school past elementary school during that period except for select people.
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>>533607571
They're all made up charges. Regardless, starving people to death as form of torture and execution is only what a sadistic person would do.
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>>533607508
>and fully 180d Mao's economic policy
Correct, Mao was wrong and they corrected course, as Marxist analysis would have indicated they should have done. Communism is not a religion where Mao is a saint whose ideas have to be taken as reality.

>>533607680
Just look at the reaction of the American right to the stripping of abortion rights. "Your body my choice" is just the latest iteration of the 4000 year old fundamentalist warcry of female enslavement.

>>533607733
Yes, that's what happens when you build a modern civilization from scratch and don't have enough to go around for the masses that were liberated from the feudal hellscape that existed before. This is why everyone obsesses over the missteps of the past instead of looking at the reality of China today. They always have to look back to a time when the Chinese people were weaker than they are now.
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>>533607476
>they weren't
Decollectivization and privatization of the countryside was a massive success. Like unbelievably huge. It begun as an experiment in a few states and was so overwhelmingly succesful and raised production and quality of life so effectively that it spread across the entire nation within a few years and was maybe the single biggest factor in China's economic turnaround.
>Bullshit, most of it came from state programs since they had the funds.
This money largely came from the state but was used in ways that were formally illegal. Although many party members saw how succesful these projects were and allowed and even encouraged them even though they were contrary to Maoist ideology.
>They're not really comparable
It wouldn't have taken a genius to realize that the cultural revolution was probably not compatible with the goal of rapid industrialization.
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>>533597843
Fat and retarded and bald
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>>533599415
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_campaign
He was legit retarded
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>>533607939
>skips riiiiiiight over it again >>533607672
>back to pretending it's not there
das
rite
nigger
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>>533607476
>They weren't. Agricultural production went up massively to the point where people in China looked visibly fatter and healthier in the 70s than in the 50s and 60s despite having 200m more people.

If food was plentiful back then, then why did they need to implement the one-child policy? Why do modern chinese soldiers no longer fit in older military vehicles?
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>>533608136
>Why do modern chinese soldiers no longer fit in older military vehicles?
Americanization, the most terrifying mark of China's success
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>>533608011
>Decollectivization and privatization of the countryside was a massive success. Like unbelievably huge. It begun as an experiment in a few states and was so overwhelmingly succesful and raised production and quality of life so effectively that it spread across the entire nation within a few years and was maybe the single biggest factor in China's economic turnaround.
Collectivization had the same effect too when the land was formerly privatized. The truth is privatization and collectivization make very little difference in the end, what makes a difference is technology, and, GLP excepted, agriculture was consistently going up already, but as usual capitalists take all the credit.

>This money largely came from the state but was used in ways that were formally illegal. Although many party members saw how succesful these projects were and allowed and even encouraged them even though they were contrary to Maoist ideology.
This is genuinely the first time I hear someone make this claim and I've read about China a lot. What are your sources?

>It wouldn't have taken a genius to realize that the cultural revolution was probably not compatible with the goal of rapid industrialization.
Yet real gdp growth was roughly the same in the 70s, during the Cultural Revolution, and after, and they were accomplishing this without debt or foreign investment.
>>533608136
Nobody claimed that food production has stagnated since the 70s. Of course the economy has grown since then and people have more food now. That's true in the rest of the world too. People in the US and Canada now are much fatter than in the 70s.
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>>533607939
Whatever's happening today doesn't justify what happened in the past nor do those mistakes in the past can be credited with being responsible for good outcomes of today. Modernization doesn't require mass deaths.
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>>533608412
You're avoiding the question. Why did they implement the one-child policy if food was plentiful? No one other country had done this before.
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>>533608581
The one-child policy had nothing to do with Mao, it happened after Deng took power. In any case, unlimited population growth is impossible, it necessarily becomes a Malthusian nightmare at some point, and the one-child policy did nothing to stop that (it actually caused a small baby-boom).
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>>533608426
Of course it does, mass deaths were inevitable from the start because the population size was already greater than the carrying capacity of the nightmare fallen empire they freed themselves from. They tried to modernize and stamp out reactionary culture as fast as they could because that's how you save the greatest number of lives in the long term. Rail projects are the perfect example of this cause they went to some brutal lengths for that type of infrastructure building, but that's the investment that pulled the masses out of poverty in just a few decades after hundreds of years of tyrannical deprivation.

You're just mad they succeeded, and you're a parasite in a dying empire
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>>533597843
I mean, just look at him?
>>533597996
I'm sure he killed at least a few, would be hard not to.
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>>533599234
Chinese "prosperity" is literally build on selling crap to America, crap made by slaves in all but name lol. If America stopped buying they would be shit out of luck.
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>>533597843
Mao didnt do anything good, and he isnt the man who created the way to destroy communism.

See Hitler is good because he killed you, and stopped you existing.
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>>533608412
>Collectivization had the same effect too when the land was formerly privatized
The land was owned by landlords and used inefficiently. Any success from moving from that system to collectivation would have been even greater if they had moved to household private ownership. Peasants were always more productive on their personal crops than on communal ones.
>This is genuinely the first time I hear someone make this claim
The Great Reformation by Westad and Jiang goes into a fair amount of detail about how peasants began working in opposition to Maoist policy, for example reinvesting state gibs into private enterprise.
>Yet real gdp growth was roughly the same in the 70s
Maybe after the CR died down and Mao let Zhou and Deng clean up his mess again.
>without debt or foreign investment
China was never food self sufficient, importing from for example Canada, and by the early 70s they had begun buying tech from western Europe and Japan.
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>>533608912
>your prosperity is based on producing and selling goods and it would end if people stopped buying your goods

This is the most retarded shit I've ever read. How do you dress yourself in the morning
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>>533609264
I could ask you the same since you clearly cannot read.
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>>533609041
Hitler and the Nazis probably prolonged the life of the USSR by several decades. If they hadn't revolted against the coalition of western empires, the second world war would have been a hot Cold War and European empires with American backing would have obliterated Asia and Eastern Europe to extend capitalist tyranny to every edge of the globe.
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>>533597843
Contained to china, no conquest
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China. No digital ID, no food.

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