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if he holds all the cards…. then why is he extending the ceasefire without iran even asking for it?
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>>533599474
He must always TACO
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>>533599474
Trump is an idiot if he thinks people don't know he's a bald faced liar.
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>>533599474
The Jews hold all the cards. They own even you and control your future.
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>>533599474
He's not going to BTFO of them unless he absolutely has to. Only brown people and jews will seethe about this post.
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>>533599474
>>533599533

Today is Tuesday isn't it?
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>>533599474
Both sides want peace and get nothing from continuing this war. It's so obvious even Bibi's cock sock in the white house sees it.
Now it's just about reputation and getting the best deal or just quietly going back to the status quo ante bellum.

Either way, it's all much less retarded than waging war so actually one smart decision by Trump this month.
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>>533599474
NO MORE CEASEFIRES

BOMB, BOMB, BOMB !
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>>533599604
Apparently smarter than you if he's the president of the most powerful nation on earth while you're just some literally who.
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>>533599474
Where does he state Iran did not ask for an extension?
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>>533599474
Much as I hate Trump and think the Americans are acting purely in bad faith he's got a point.

The Iranians should prove they can actually open the strait by keeping it open for a week before anyone bothers negotiating with them. For all anyone knows, the Iranians closing the strait have nothing to do with anyone Tehran sends.
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>>533599604
it doesnt matter what joe sixpack thinks, he has botfarms, his MIGA cultists, and the senate/house shooting down any measures to stop the war
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This is just sad to see at this point
He really thinks he's in control of the situation
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This shit Is so embarrassing, they should cut his internet access.
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>>533599474
absolutely cucked
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>>533599735
Doesn't matter what a liar says you retard
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>>533599474

It's TACO Tuesday folks.

Seriously what choice does he have? If he launches more atatcks against Iranian civilians the Iranians have said they will retaliate against US vasal states. That will mena millions in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other nations dying of thirst in the coming weeks. Plus a demonstration of how powerless the US is.

So we now have two more weeks of empty threats and rhetoric as he flails around unable to accept he didn't make a good decision.
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>>533599474
>Automatic draft for 18-26 year olds
>New Defense legislation that moves into war manufacturing.
>Military spending went up 50% to 1.5 trillion with a T.
Don't listen at what he says, watch what he does. The war in Iran has only just begun and it's going to last for a decade.
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>>533599474
>trump did this
>trump did that
>WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
you dumbfags should just forget about trying to understand 512d chess, you fuckin plebbitniggers on parade
but then again we already understand that your local sewing circle leader whips you up into a frenzy about drumpf and you have to come here and act out to earn upboats at plebbit
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>>533599474
Literally taco tuesday
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>>533599474
Because he has iran cut off and doesn't need to escalate any further
>>533599630
Irony for Russian to even try and claim thst about others with yet another year of kiketins war
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>>533599955
2 more weeks to short oil
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>>533599727
The anon you're responding to didn't say anything about Trump's intelligence, he said he was a liar.
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>>533599474
What do you know about Iran and what its asking ?
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>>533599474
Because he doesn't want to prosecute the war but he has no good alternative because Iran won't budge. Therefore he's stuck.
The strait is still closed as long as this charade goes on, which means the economy is continuing to be fucked.

He's stuck between a rock and a hard place, Iran hasn't given in on any of their demands (allowing them to enrich Uranium, control the strait with tolls, reparations from the US and Israel for damages, US troops removed from Middle East bases)

Trump is never going to agree to that, but at the same time the only alternative is doing a regime change war, which can't be done from the air alone which means boots on the ground which will be very unpopular and go on for years.

There is no good option open to him, so he's dithering and trying to drag out these pointless talks. As you can see, there were no talks today with Iran but he's extending the deadline anyway... It's pathetic.
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>>533599474
Is somebody doing insider trading again? If so then there's your answer
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>>533599474
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>>533599474
Because all he’s holding is a limp dick
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>>533599474
>Iran does nothing
>Trump still TACOs
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LMAO!
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We are such a fucking joke holy shit
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>>533599474
insider traders will be captured, tortured, videos posted online, and executed.
I cannot imagine how dumb a person has to be to align themselves with Trump. You're all going to suffer extreme pain and suffering for your crimes.
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>>533600141
how do they keep winning bros
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>TACO tuesday
So do people want him to do it or not?
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>>533599663
Yes and Trump claimed the ceasefire ended this morning.
Although he is a confused senile old man and it technically should end tonight.
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Where are the whiners about the market?. THE NQ DESTROYED THE BEARS AFTER CLOSE
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Iran is holding all the cards here
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>>533600100
>boots on the ground which will be very unpopular and go on for years.

Boots on the ground would last a very short amount of time because the ones who don't get sunk on their way there will die quickly on the beaches
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>>533600100
Notice there's no deadline attached to this one.

Literally as soon as the US stops blockading Iran it will own the whole middle east and Israel will collapse.

The obvious and funny corollary is that the US blockade of Iran will simply last indefinitely because there's nothing else the US can do.

What's the bet that Trump will die in office while the blockade is still on?
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he literally has no cards except his pitiful excuse for a blockade which slits our wrists possibly even more than it does for iran.

actual admit of defeat even if he'll pass it off as some strongman tactic
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>>533600100
Longer it goes on, longer the pain spreads on higher oil prices. Win win for Iran. Time is on their side.
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>>533599474
>if he holds all the cards
He think he does. He's just a retard who thinks he's in control.
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>>533599740
Iran will open the strait the second America opens it and Israel stops murdering Lebanese children.
They have been very clear about this.
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>>533599474
I just want to state for the record:

America is better at blocking the strait of Hormuz than Iran is.

That is all. Cope and seethe.
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>>533600234
No, but it's hilarious that we're on Brumpf's 6 gorillionth "final warning" two months into the one day SMO to regime change Iran.

He's ultimately a massive coward unable to commit to anything and his threats are entirely hollow. America is a modern paper tiger.
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>>533600343
Betting on Trump being a coward is a good bet.
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>>533599474
Wumao even.
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>>533600234
Do what? Commit suicide on international live television? Please.
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>>533600479

For all we know, a totally different branch of the IRGC is blocking the strait and will refuse to take any orders from Tehran.
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>>533599474
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (BREATHES IN) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>533599474
Iran won't negotiate while ever they're under an illegal blockade but they will let ships through with a toll, all except Zionist allied ships which is reasonable since they attacked them.
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>>533600397
HA HA HA TRUMP IS CRUSHING ALL YOUR OIL RELATED BUSINESSES THAT USE IRAN AS THE SCARY OOGA BOOGA TO KEEP PRICES UP ALL THE TANKERS FILLING UP IN THE US WON'T BE PAYING YOUR HIGH INSURANCE RATES HA HA HA
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>>533600644
Submarine oil tankers evading the Americans when?
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>>533599474
We should just bomb Iran some more. Sounds like we destroyed eveything already
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>>533600488
>Desperately beg the Iranians to open the strait for over a month culminating in your president having a public melt down on social media
>OPEN THE FUCKING STRAIT YOU CRAZY BASTARDS
>miggers collectively of embarrasment
>rebrand the strait being closed as a US blockade so it doesnt look like you've comletely failed to guarrentee safety of navigation (the one cope you had left that anyone needed your trillion dollar zogbots globally)
American century of humiliation.
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>>533600590
The IRGC is in control, the diplomats keep making mistakes. It looks like they have finally fallen into line.
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>um acshually Iran begged us for an extension (nevermind they were totally ready to make the deal just yesterday)
Does anyone even believe the shit he says anymore? Even if I was a braindead MAGA I don't think I can come to terms with all of this TACOing anymore.
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>>533600114
At most the Iranian regime.
They simply did not show up for the negotiations so Trump had no way of playing this time.
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>>533600687
You have to pay high oil prices too, dummy
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>>533600523
>Betting on Trump being a coward is a good bet.
If he bombed the shit out of Iran you'd call him a war criminal. He is trying to accomplish our goals with minimal loss of blood.
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>>533600590
It's extremely unlikely. Iran's strategy hinges on controlling the strait. If it can't do that, than they might as well give in to the jews' demands.
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>>533600397
There's also a limit to how long the US navy can enforce this blockade. Supplies are running low and the morale among sailors is in ruins due to the length and poor planning of this operation. There are also very few ports left in the AO that are friendly to US navy vessels.
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>>533599474
US lost strategically
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I just realized that Trump can actually nuke Iran and the whole middle east without any consequences.
Jesus Christ...
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>>533600763
>Even if I was a braindead MAGA
You can not comprehend the level of stupidity of them, even being a leaf.

That's how low MAGA is. Even faggots are tops compared to them.
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>>533599727
You got me. I admit. I'm not nearly as good as Trump at conning morons like you.
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>>533600523
You are a democrap hoping Trump creates misery you can whine whine whhhhhiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnneeee about in the midterms.
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>>533600850
>without consequences
acting like a demented retard has consequences on the world stage anon. just imagine how every country is already really concerned about trump and then he nukes a country and all their worst fears are confirmed
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>>533600838
>US lost strategically
How?
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>>533600590
Nah.

You probably think that because they shot at two cargo ships who thought they had permission to pass.
But it turned out the ship owners got scammed by someone pretending to the from the Iranian regime selling "safe passage" in exchange for Bitcoin.

The IRGC is extremely disciplined, following order is a religious matter for them.
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>>533600780
I didn't say any of that. Just anon focused on stock betting so I responded to that. He is showing great weakness, it's true.
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>>533600440
Win win for China and Russia too.
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He doesn't have the cards.
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>>533600928
Shills all on trying to act like I said anything but the facts: Trump made a huge mistake and is trying to cower his way out.
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>>533600850
That's kind of how it works when you're a nuclear power and your enemy isn't. Sure people in other countries might get really mad at you and burn your embassies down and sure the fallout can fuck other countries and cause refugee waves but ultimately we probably aren't going to nuke you if you nuke a defenceless country.

But Putin and Xi might get some ideas if Trump does it and it would certainly make every country in the whole world pursue nukes and I doubt the US wants that kind of trouble. Even if Trump want to roll the dice there are some saner people around him and in the military chain of command who will step back.
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>>533600944
What strategic victories did the USA achieve?
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>>533599474
I don't trust him anymore. He's been lying throughout the war and I have no reason to believe he has stopped doing so.
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>>533600763
>Does anyone even believe the shit he says anymore?
look at this dumb fuck, lmao
there are those of us who have known for 10 years that he's yanking your chains this way and that to the point where you are all so confused you will never know when the trap gets sprung until it is too late
its superlatively entertaining watching you fags squirm and bitch whine and moan about everything your plebbit admin tells you to
and you fags still havent figured out you're useful idiots yet
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>>533599474
>until such time as they come up with a unified proposal
this nigger's mind is gone. itan's 10-point plan was made weeks ago and it remains unchanged
also:
>continue the blockade
he's retarded if he think's iran isn't going to attack the blockade as soon as the original ceasefire ends
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>>533600773
Why dummy, the milk run to the Gulf of America is eezy peezy, and the insurance underwriters can't charge what they charge for iran's risk
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>>533599474
Happy TACO Tuesday everyone!
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>>533600440
>Longer it goes on, longer the pain spreads on higher oil prices. Win win for Iran. Time is on their side.
Yes, and they know Trump is impatient and doesn't want to continue a regime change war, so they're happy to wait things out. Which is why he's not really avoiding anything by dragging out negotiations for the sake of negotiations. Oil is going to remain around 90-100 at best. This entire year is economically fucked because of the knock on effect of the last 7 weeks already and the US is still using emergency reserves right now.

>>533600371
Trump isn't going to do boots on the ground because it would have to be a huge invasion of at least half a million men, since Iran is a lot bigger than Iraq and a lot harder terrain.
Plus he's hates the idea of the idea of all the footage of US troops getting killed because it will be terrible publicity. And this is a war that's unpopular to begin with.

>>533600397
>What's the bet that Trump will die in office while the blockade is still on?
Tbqh if Trump is actually a dying man then this could be an example of him playing 4d chess for once. Die in office so the outcome falls on Vance instead of him.
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>>533601045
Critical degradation of Iran's military and nuclear capability.
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>>533601028
>there are some saner people around him and in the military chain of command who will step back.
Didn't he fire all those sane generals recently?
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>>533601028
A nuke on Iran ensures that basically every nation that can get nukes will pursue them. Also I still suspect Iran has nukes. So a nuke on Iran means a nuke on Israel.
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>>533600951
add the mullahs and the IRGC to the group with Dick Cheney, Dubya, and all the others they hated until globohomo said no they're akshually frens
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>>533601144
Migger cope
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>>533600838
The ones in command now are all veterans of the war with Iraq, the top man right now worked his way up from combat positions to lead the whole thing, the Zionists are going to go for a new round of decapitation, that's all they have.
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>>533601211
You are a seething tranny
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>>533600944
Iran knows trumps threat of re-bombing them is an empty threat, since they now know trump understands that trump loses that way also since it'll still affect energy/gas supply.

no matter what trump does it will effect the US economy for the worse. Only edge trump has is that he's an unstable retarded that no one can predict. but that's not really a good thing.
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>>533601239
>the Zionists are going to go for a new round of decapitation, that's all they have.
All they have is being able to kill the leaders of their enemy any time they want.
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>>533599474
Trump is under the thumb.
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>>533601144
Okay, and? Was Iran ever a real threat to the USA?
And wrecking the entire world economy (including the USA and its allies) is a victory because...?
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>Trump's final warning
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>>533601045
>What strategic victories did the USA achieve?
The USA successfully closed the Strait of Hormuz. Joe Biden couldn't do this in 4 years.
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>>533599474
>tacos again
>strait STILL closed
kwab
are we finally drawing near an end though?
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>>533599604
Fuvk you. He just exagerstes.er, MAGA, knows what he is really saying.
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>>533601334
Has this tactic given you the results you wanted?
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>>533601135
>boots on the ground
Outside of a deal that heavily favors Iran, which would be a personal defeat for him and his reputation as the deal master, he has no choice but to put boots on the ground in some capacity.

>>533601417
Not even close
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>>533601118
>he's retarded if he think's iran isn't going to attack the blockade as soon as the original ceasefire ends
Nah.
First of all they don't really have the capability to strike accurately at such a range.
Secondly they probably just want to buy time until congress has to vote to continue this war two weeks from now.

And if congress says no that would be good for Trump because then he can blame his defeat on Biden and things will go back to normal.
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>>533601256
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>>533601370
>Was Iran ever a real threat to the USA?
Yes.
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>>533600837
Yes, so that's now the question. What is the ability of the US to keep the blockade up? And what's Iran's ability to undermine it?
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>>533601466
>Not even close
nah. it has to be almost over. Trump can't keep putting it off forever and the global economy won't tolerate this bullshit for long, nor can he afford to keep boats out at sea actively tarrying random vessels.
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>>533601451
Don't know how to answer that one this is an on-going conflict.
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>>533601476
>And if congress says no that would be good for Trump because then he can blame his defeat on Biden and things will go back to normal.
True, that might be his plan to avoid responsibility for this fiasco.
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>>533599474
No thanks?
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>>533601466
>Outside of a deal that heavily favors Iran, which would be a personal defeat for him and his reputation as the deal master, he has no choice but to put boots on the ground in some capacity.

If Trump can keep the blockade going, why does he have to do anything else?

Seems to me that this is the least worst thing for Trump. Just keep the blockade going.
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>>533599740
didn't trump say the strait was open though?
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>>533601466
>he has no choice but to put boots on the ground in some capacity
Then he gets impeached.
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>>533600198
I don't Americans who use "we" when referring to shit the American government does. They are jewish aliens and an illegitimate regime not connected to the American people in any way.

When shit happens to the American government it happens to them not us, although the affects of their evil retardation do happen to us
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>>533601466
>Outside of a deal that heavily favors Iran, which would be a personal defeat for him and his reputation as the deal master, he has no choice but to put boots on the ground in some capacity.

Would need over half a million troops though, plus mechanized infantry, tanks - and at the same time the global concomy would implode, the Houthis would close the red sea knocking another 10-15% of world oil suppply out, the Iranians would strike back at Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Dubai etc cauaing mass death through thirst within weeks.

Even Trump won't go for it, just going to keep TACOing until he is so cornered he willd eclare victory for the 36th time and move on to something else.
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>>533601638
>If Trump can keep the blockade going, why does he have to do anything else?
>Seems to me that this is the least worst thing for Trump. Just keep the blockade going.
This is the point that those in this thread seem to be missing, the blockade of Iranian ports is strangling Iran. It is costing them ungodly amounts of money every day.
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>>533601638
>Just keep the blockade going.
how is that a win though?

midterms will come and he's gonna be assraped
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>>533599474
how magnanimous of him
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>>533599474
What a jobber.
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>>533599645
>I really don't want to do standard day one war stuff like power plants, I know these guys are suicidal cultists who will never see reason but if there's any way to avoid plunging 90 million people into amarchy I will try to pursue it
OMG YOU ARE A DERANGED WARCRIMINAL AND ALSO A PUSSY COWARD
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>>533601777
Seething tranny
Drop just a few thousand US Marines in there with no ROE and see how long your precious Iranian regime survives.
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>>533599474
I've played wow before so once you dab on level 10 twinks as a level 60 you feel a bit bad so you kinda go and hang out in Ironforge so you hang out the front and duel em a bit then you let the lvl 28s enchant crusader and stuff to dab on the poor cunts
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>>533600944
>PLEASE OPEN THE STRAIT REEEEEE
>WE'LL BOMB YOU TO THE STONE AGE
>TACO 5 TIMES
>TACO 6th TIME INTO A 2 WEEK CEASEFIRE
>TACO 7th TIME INTO A PERMANENT CEASEFIRE AFTER IRAN REFUSES TO ATTEND NEGOTIATIONS
LOL
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>>533601487
More of a threat than it is now?
The blockade of the Hormuz strait is wrecking you and your allies, you know.
>>533601538
If the decapitation tactic was working you wouldn't be having this quagmire right now.
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>>533599474
So is the strait open?
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>>533600688
that would easily be the coolest thing in the last 20 years
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>>533601989
Iran is blockaded and can't do anything about it, seethe leaf.
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>>533601792
The blockade is pretty bad for everyone, but it's the only thing between Trump and an absolutely catastrophic defeat for America and Iran emerging as a monster bent on revenge, so if I was Trump I'd keep the blockade going.

Iran does have other ways to sell that oil by way of Russia and its ports outside the gulf and the longer the blockade lasts the more it will adapt.
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>>533602074
but I thought the strait was open and america was controlling it?
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>>533599630
based ruski
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>>533602074
>ACKSHUALLY WE BLOCKADED YOUR BLOCKADE
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>533601792
Trump lies a lot, I wouldn't trust his 500 milllion a day figure.
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>>533601931
Please do this, I really want to see the drone footage
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>>533601922
lmao Trump doesn't give a fuck about any of those 90 million people. He was ranting about ending civilization a week ago. You probably called them sand niggers and said it was a good thing or you didn't give a shit if they died either.
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>>533599474
chicken faggot retard proves that he has absolutely nothing backing up his ridiculous peacocking.
just surrender already you pathetic retard. stop embarrassing us.
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>>533600479
>Iran will never open the strait
FUCK
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>>533600837
>supplies are running low

pffffftt hahahahahahahab

The USA could impose a blockade on Iran forever
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Only the strong can implement a unilateral ceasefire. We obviously won the war and no longer need to fight.
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let me guess, the 'until such time' will be a friday just after markets close
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>>533602352
How will this open up the strait?
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>>533599474
You see Venezuela? This is what you should've done, the orange faggot is a fucking coward
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>>533599630
>The Jews hold all the cards. They own even you and control your future.
They also control Russia. That's why the Hasidic Jews pushed to invade Ukraine and kill all the goyim and turn Ukraine into new Israel.
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>>533599474
>without iran even asking for it?
Iran is literally begging president Trump for a cease fire behind closed doors by calling the rescued pilot.
No, you can't see either of them.
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>>533602470
>How will this open up the strait?
The Iranian regime will die.
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>>533601466
>Outside of a deal that heavily favors Iran, which would be a personal defeat for him and his reputation as the deal master, he has no choice but to put boots on the ground in some capacity
Yes, which is why things are bad no matter what he does. There is no good option open.

>>533601638
>>533601792
It's an existential war for the regime, the blockade is bad for Iran but it's bad for the West and the Gulf states because oil remains high as long as the strait is blocked.
It's a question of who blinks first. Because blockading the strait long term actually means long term economic damage for the West. It isn't existential for the West so it comes down to the public actually being able to put up with the economy being bad for that time, which they aren't okay with.

Iran might be able to limp along for years, like North Korea does, and over time it will find other means of income to make the blockade slightly less bad too.
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>>533602517
>The Iranian regime will die.
Is this really what is happening, though?
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>>533599474
>Iran didn't even ask for this

LMAO the TACO to out TACO all TACOs.
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>>533599735
Iran ghosted him on more talks. The Left is cracking up. You won!
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>>533602074
You can't do shit about them blocking the strait either.
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>>533599474
>extend the ceasefire until their proposal is submitted
kek, so iran has basically managed to get the US to blockade the strait on irans behalf for the foreseeable future, allowing iran to save ammunition and not look like the bad guys, yet still undermine the petrodollar.
so this is what 90d chess looks like.
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>>533602470
It’s open, if Iran can’t do anything to ships passing in the straits then it is open
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>>533599474
He needs more retail all in on stonks, Trump is a master market manipulator. This gives the insiders time to unload large positions then you rugpull.
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>>533602517
They fought Iraq for a decade with far worse casualties than this shitty nothingburger war.
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>>533602521
>It's an existential war for the regime, the blockade is bad for Iran but it's bad for the West and the Gulf states because oil remains high as long as the strait is blocked.
>It's a question of who blinks first. Because blockading the strait long term actually means long term economic damage for the West. It isn't existential for the West so it comes down to the public actually being able to put up with the economy being bad for that time, which they aren't okay with.
This is more or less correct.
>Iran might be able to limp along for years, like North Korea does, and over time it will find other means of income to make the blockade slightly less bad too.
Not this though, oil revenue makes up like half of the Iranian government's budget.
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>>533601931

It took about 700,000 against Iraq in the 90s, then I believe it was about 300,000 after shock and awe in the 2000s - and that lead to a decade long catastrophe and the US fleeing in humiliation. Iran is vastly bigger, better armed, more populous, tougher terrain - I doubt an army under 500,000 would even get a foothold. The idea a few thousand US soldiers would get anywhere is sheer fantasy, they would be wiped out in days.
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>>533602608
The left is probably fine with him chickening out. Less Iranians killed and makes MAGA and Trump look very weak.
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>>533602716
>They fought Iraq for a decade with far worse casualties than this shitty nothingburger war.
They aren't going to have any money, they could lose thousands of solders and be better off.
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>>533602774
In fact they're probably laughing at him lol
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>>533599474
A ceasefire gives you time to reload your ammo in case things doesn't go as planned.
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>>533602574
>Is this really what is happening, though?
It has to change or evolve.
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>>533599474
Even if you sandniggers hate Trump and his regime, you should be happy that there's no war in the region. Tens of thousands of innocent civilians will die if a country's critical infrastructure is bombed
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>>533601931
this, 1 ultra super corn syrup powered marine has the same battle level as 10000 mujahideen cuck warriors
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>>533599663
the war ended on taco tuesday and trump already did a taco for tuesday by saying it was going to resume tomorrow, so this is a second taco this tuesday. judge napolitano and scott ritter went over his inane piracy the other day and people are saying that general caine just invoked his duty to refuse illegal orders. many people dont know that the doctrine of illegal orders comes from the time when God napalm bombed 50 dudes for following the illegal orders of a corrupt king
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>>533602855
Nigger mentality

>just be happy Tyrone isn't stabbing you ok???
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>>533602674
>if Iran can’t do anything to ships passing in the straits then it is open
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>533602851
>It has to change or evolve.
You're right. Iran now has a different, even less friendly to the USA regime.
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>>533600734
>diplomats keep making mistakes
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>>533602951
Word salad
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We won already. We won.
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>>533599474

Your right he shouldn’t nuke Iran would that make you cry less ?
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>>533601023
>Trump made a huge mistake and is trying to cower his way out.
he wants to declare victory and cease operations, but he keeps trying to pursue a win instead of firing hegseth and rubio for their insane stupidity and dereliction to duty. both hegseth and rubio had a responsibility to know that there was no strategic objective that could be achieved by force in iran
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>>533599533
>Bypassing
>Unreliable
>Retards
>Regurgitating
>Idiotic
>Troon
>Operations
I love how President Trump so easily distracts the emotionally incontinent leftoid fembrains with shitposting as he gets things done. GOAT POTUS!
>FTC Announces “Made in the USA” Sweep, Including Three Law Enforcement Actions to Protect American Consumers and Businesses
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2026/04/ftc-announces-made-usa-sweep-including-three-law-enforcement-actions-protect-american-consumers
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>>533602667
The blockade only applies to ships going to/from Iran, others have been permitted to pass through freely.
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>>533602954
Stop being a bloodthirsty warmonger, Ahmed. Think about your 6-year-old wife
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Someone needs to just put this senile fuck in a room tuned to an AI Fox News broadcast praising him 24/7 to distract him
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>>533603466
Even through the iranian blockade?
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>>533601487
>>Was Iran ever a real threat to the USA?
>Yes.
iran has had intercontinental ballistic missiles for decades, being the sixth country to sent animals to space. they dont have nuclear warheads because the ayatollah had proclaimed a fatwa against building nuclear weapons. having a nuclear icbm is a potential definition of a real threat to the usa, but in reality there is no meaning to it, because iran is on the other side of the world and basically just is a nation of engineers sitting on a lot of oil. iran is, however, a geopolitical rival to israhell, which controls the usa through lies and blackmail
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>>533599474
The blockade is going to kill more Muslims that continuing to bomb them. They don't make enough food to feed their populations and are dependent on handouts.
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>>533603194
All of a sudden anons pop up to act like any of this is good for the US and to discourage people from mocking this for what it is. We celebrate another day of peace, but we don't have to make dear leader feel good about it or coddle him.
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>>533602682
Except this time, it didn't affect the market at all. Still holding strong at 90 wti and 99 for brent. Even robots know this kiked faggot is a total liar.
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>>533603702
The muslims in question being the GCC countries who are supposed to be your allies.
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>>533601525
>Trump can't keep putting it off forever
Wanna bet?
Who's gonna stop him?
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>>533603466
sure, sure
and that guy shooting at cars on a street corner is only targeting pedo's, everyone else is free to drive past without issue.
no ones going to take the risk of being misidentified by some random mystery meat mutt captain.
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>>533599533
What do you even bomb at this point? Iranian Leadership is obviously fractured. During the last negotiation the iran leadership flew in, then in the middle of the negotiation, the iranian leadership flew in again. Id imagine just having iran blockaded indefinitely will lead to a power struggle to kick off inside iran.
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>>533603940
>Who's gonna stop him?
Midterms.
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>>533603830
Aren't all Muslim countries dependent on food imports and they depend on electricity to desalinate their water?
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>>533600714
Are more or less ships going through since the American blockade?
America wins again.
Cope and seethe.
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>>533602074
>the problem is the blockade
>Oh! I know, we'll double blockade it, thereby canceling it out and being unblocked
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>>533604059
That's true, but are you planning on blockading the Caspian Sea also? How are you going to do that?
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>>533603996
He already said what he'd bomb. He just didn't want to. And Iran didn't show up. Indefinite ceasefire probably will help Iran organize their power, not create faction war.
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>>533603216
make the groyper jewish and it's accurate
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>>533604203
Taking out the powerplants takes their 70+ desalination plants offline. Taking out their bridges will make it harder to disperse food throughout the country.
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>>533603992
Ships have indeed been sailing past the blockade unmolested, apparently cargo shippers have more trust in the Navy's trigger discipline than you do.
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>>533603996
>What do you even bomb at this point?
Why do you need to even bomb anything, if the military was completely destroyed? Why would he want the "dust" if the sites were completely destroyed?
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>>533599474
Time is on our side here. Ideally the blockade never ends and Iran gives us a good excuse to keep it that way forever.
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>>533604170
>US President Donald Trump said Tuesday that Washington used the ceasefire period with Iran to replenish its weapons stockpiles

Did the Iranians get deceived again?
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>>533602838
Yeah except in this case Iran didn't agree to a ceasefire kek
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>>533599474
He's making bank every time he does it. He knows it doesn't matter, he's literally robbing them in broad daylight every Tuesday.

Fuckin funny...
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5th time now this stupid fuck has threatened to bring hell down on Iran totally without backing down then chickning out last second. Shart of the fucking deal indeed. Now give it a few days and he will start talking threats again and by next tuesday will give them another extension after some "very substantial talks thank you for your attention to thos matter"
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>>533604607
Who is going to let the orange nigger do this?
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>>533603576

>>533602667 claimed that the US has been tricked into blockading the Hormuz for Iran. If Iran still has to do the work itself than that claim is untrue.
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Remember when trump met the Queen during his first term? He was drug through the mud online for "disrespecting" the queen by not showing "Royal Protocol." Now, some years later, the Blockade of the Strait of Hormuz is fucking over the British Empire hard. Although many nations ambassadors have met with the Trump Administration, why is it on the British Ambassador was threatened with Operation Economic Fury? As long as the Strait is closed or blocked, England suffers. The blame can be shifted over to Iran, but the reality is Israel and Iran have each been bombed out of immediate relevancy. They are proxies. The true conflict is economic and it is US vs. England.
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>>533604852
May you provide evidence that a significant number of ships are passing through?
Remember that the daily transit was 120+ a day before the war.
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>>533604759
Who's "our"? The 1%? Jews? Nothing more pathetic than an American thinking Exxon's success is "ours" and that it'll improve the life of the 99% in any way.
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>>533601144
This is a strategic victory for Israel, not the US.

Iran controls the flow of energy to our allies and the price of oil (our biggest source of energy) worldwide. And that flow has stopped because of this war, and the price of oil has gone up. This is a huge loss for the US and its (real) allies.

In theory Iran should actually be an ally of the US, like Saudi Arabia. But since they are an enemy of Israel, our "greatest" ally, we cannot let this be so.
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>>533605261
The United State of America is becoming the world's oil supplier and I guess that makes you mad?
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>>533604759
tell that to the majority of Americans suffering from high oil prices. This war is in no way to our benefit. Its so painfully obvious, I can only conclude you are jewish.
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>commie loser cope intensifies
I love watching you retards cry about America winning
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>>533605387
do you understand supply and demand at all? the price will go up due to the decreased supply. Yes, this benefits (((shareholders))), but not average americans.
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>>533599474
>END THE BLOODY BLOCKADE YOU BASTARDS
>jk we block it now to pump our portfolio
This fucking guy
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>>533605539
Doesn't even help shareholders that much. Maybe oil companies to a certain amount, but they also have to pay for higher prices.
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>>533599474
to move the boats past Oman
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>>533599474
Ceasefire is about to run out and you can't unilaterally declare an extension just like that. Iranians should strike as soon as the timer runs out. Missiles in all directions with no warning.
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>>533599474
he holds the cards but the cards hes holding dont even make a pair, let alone the royal flush he desperately needs.
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>>533605387
That sounds great for oil suppliers. But I, and pretty much everyone else in America, am not an oil supplier. And I'm not naive enough to believe oil suppliers have my best interest in heart. So please explain how this benefits normal American people and not just the giga-rich who will use their profits from this to actively make our lives worse by continuing to raise prices while lowering quality in every way imaginable.
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>>533599474
The US is low on missiles.
They cant fight a war anymore.
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>>533599474
Every Tuesday like clockwork.
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>>533599533
>>533599645
I've said it twice, I'll say it again: Everyone always forgets that "bridge and powerplant day" = "pipelines refineries and desalination plants day". Trump is obviously too afraid to attack Iranian infrastructure again, because the damage already incurred in the gulf states exceeds acceptable limits.
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>>533605889
Cry more, commie
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>>533602734
It's going to hurt Iran a lot but the question of it changing the regime is another thing entirely. And it's very likely that even a collapsing Iran would also make the strait unsafe for ships too as one of many Islamic terror groups could take power or the country falls into civil war entirely.
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>>533600890
kek
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>>533600780
this is just the latest migger cope, saying we call him a warcriminal (he is) and that he's a coward who won't attack (he's a coward too). they aren't mutually exclusive when you dont have to fight yourself
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>>533605929
Low on everything basically. This whole operation was not set up to be a drawn out conflict at all. Trump is more scared of continued fighting than Iran is. He is panicking. Iran has set up their whole nation for decades to be a fortress, both politically and militarily. Their whole nation has done nothing but prepare for a long, bloody war against a much stronger military. Meanwhile trump has cobbled together his gung ho military operation in a couple of weeks and packed enough stuff for a long weekend.
He has bought into Netanyahus delusion, that all it takes is a bit of bombing, for Iranians to topple their regime. Because I think Netanyahu actually believes that to be true after years of propagandizing this.
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>>533601931
It's not about that, you need peace in Iran to have the strait be open.
A failed state in Iran will mean the strait is unsafe. How do you get a peaceful Iran without regime change?
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>>533600012
oof
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>>533599474
right on time
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>>533606315
Huh it's almost as though zionist propaganda has to believe the enemy to be strong and weak at the same time
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>>533606233
Iran won't collapse under a blockade like the strait. They may lose ships, but they will get by. This ceasefire gives Iran time to strengthen its hardeliner power.
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>>533599474
because hes a lying migger
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>>533606054
I'm sure those oil companies financial successes will trickle down to you one day just like the successes of Meta, Google, Nvidia, Apple, Amazon, Tesla, Oracle, Walmart, JPMorgan, Microsoft, Berkshire Hathaway, UnitedHealth, and Cigna did. This will definitely be the time the CEOs grow a heart and pass on the savings to actual Americans, I know it. In the mean time I hope your trailer park treats you as well as the Saudi hotels most of those CEOs are probably partying at right now.
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>>533600208
Nothing will happen and you know it.
Remember Epstein? Barely, I guess...
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>>533606377
everything was fine before Trump killed the leader and some of his family. he made more serious and hardlined people take charge. literally Trump's fault.
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>>533604774
The US is using this "ceasefire" to send more US troops to the Middle East. Iran is so fucking retarded
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Its more tactical, he can get things into possition for a bigger attack, refill ammontion and so on
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>>533599474
Trump isn't holding anything but his new title of child killer. He's a jewish puppet who attacked iran for isreal.

F A C T
A
C
T

The jews own trump so dont expect jewish hate for Muslims to stop anytime soon. The usa is now is a forever war for isreal. These talks are a laughable slap in the face since this war won't be ending. Just two dirt bag old geezers playing games of death against iran because they are both old and close to death.

This world is literally garbage. Worst part is retards keep having babies for losers like these guys to do with as they so please. Meanwhile you... O B E Y ... OR ELSE
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>>533601476
>And if congress says no
>says no
LOL
LMAO even
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>>533606642
Stop acting like this is all some big plan lol
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>>533606436
I agree.
I don't think Iran's collapsing very soon from the blockade regardless of how much it damages them economically. Even if it was a known fact that they'd collapse in a year (very optimistic) I don't think people are prepared to put up with a fuel crisis for that long.
And like I said, even if that happened a failed state of Iran is going to keep the strait unsafe for ships too. Unless the US gets some friendly government in Iran or decides to take a massive loss in the Middle East by capitulating to the Iranians (which would completely tank the petrodollar) then this isn't ending soon.

>>533606559
Yes. This is a decision Trump made that has permanent consequences, rather than a decision he can immediately reverse when it all goes wrong like usual. It was a bad war to start and it's especially bad to start it without any plan...

Pandora's box has been opened.
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its the art of 2 weeks.
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>>533599474
well he killed all their leaders. so now theres no unity so how can you have talks without a unified government. they shouldnt have talks or ceasefire but this is all theater so get ur popcorn.
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>b-but they're not even asking for a ceasefire tho
yeah. they're only demanding that the US stops spanking them altogether. lmao
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>>533606852
>Russia warns US-Iran talks may be a cover for a ground invasion

Even the Russians are warning the Iranians. The US is also blocking ships that can resupply weapons to Iran. It's all coordinated
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>>533607103
This is a very poor assessment of Iran's politics right now. Good spin though to fool the fools.
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>>533599474
The only option is to pull out he lost
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>>533607199
Why's it seem Trump wants out of the war and then keeps delaying unasked? Since you got the answers.
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>>533599474
Because they thought Iran was going to cave so they didn't bother moving their ships to a safe distance and so now they need time to scramble away just in case Iran decides to start shooting the second the ceasefire ends.
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>>533599474
>>533599533
Ironically his narcissism is his biggest weakness and therefore his biggest asset. He doesn't want to look bad. Unlike Netanyahu who would risk WW3 by any means. Because there is a slight difference between narcissism and psychopathy. Narcissists care about their legacy. Psychopaths don't.
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>>533607349
It is Trump's maskirovka/deception. Don't listen to Trump's words. Focus on US military actions like troop and ship deployments in the region
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>>533605387
ok
are you paying more at the pump than 1 year ago anon?
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>>533604759
Whos we?
Do you own stock in PetroBras
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>>533599474
I usually shit on pedo-cheeto but, my respects to him for showing some compassion to the Iranian people.
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>>533601792
>>533601792
Oil exports account for about 15% of Iran’s GDP, but that also includes pipelines to China and Türkiye which can’t be blockaded. Also the blockade isn’t absolute, the Iranian government brags almost every day about a new tanker that’s passed through the blockade with AIS date to back it up. And that’s not even mentioning the ship to ship transfers of Iranian oil being done in anchorages of gulf nations which has been a regular tactic for decades.
Overall the blockade is most likely very annoying for Iran but as a well organised autocracy they can force economic readjustment.
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>>533607631
>He doesn't want to look bad
Does making threats and backtracking constantly not make him look bad?
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>>533599474
Markets dont close until Friday, ma'am.
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>>533599664
This

Waging war because you’re scared to look silly is the dumbest possible choice.
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>>533599474
His trap card requires an extended ceasefire to trigger
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In these days of confusion, it's good that we have one thing we can always count on.
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>>533599664
why have the zogmutts been running cargo ops nonstop since the "ceasefire" began then
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>>533608455
>>533608489
>>533608627
The problem isn't so much the ceasefire as the fact that he started the war in the first place (with our without jew instigation, I don't care). I'm concerned the war will hand the Senate to the leftists, among other issues like affordability. Trump has done plenty of things right, but this isn't one of them.
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>>533608940
and you know
the epistein thing



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