This would fix everything.
>>533601063Its probably cheaper to make electric vehicles and hybrids
>>533601063She can both live in and run her start startup from that car. Genius
>>533601063Sorry, but environmental regulations say no.Also, it would ruin Obama's legacy (cash 4 clunkers)
Wh...what?
>>533601063Shut that dumb bitch up.
>>533601063That would require competence and would be pro-consumer. Never gonna happen.
>>533601150obama was a dick cheese and his cash for clunkers shit can eat my ass.
>>533601150Tweak the engines/exhausts to meet emissions standards. Keep the aesthetics and body and interior and driving feel.Pretty simple concept surely muh engineers can understand that
>>533601063Every car before the mid 90s looked like absolute trash. All of them.And if you like a big gay ass 70s truck... fuck you.
>>533601063Those can actually be worked on, don't have built in trackers and killswitches, are actually efficient, run long term, don't need overpriced computers in redundant locations that break in sequence, don't make cultists money longterm, I mean I can keep going if you want...
new cars are cheaper, the steel is thinner and other 'efficiencies'
>>533601063Honestly you might need a radiation suit, for what might happen.
>>533601096Nigger how
>>533601063Friendly reminder that Kevin Nash was right during the summer of 1992KWAB
>>533601481>what might happenSome test of advanced weapons, they might do that.
2003 Ford Focus ZX3 hatchback would be a good one to bring back.
>>533601063She's not wrong.
>>533601063Yeah do this I don't care who needs or wants to hear it stop making shitty new cars when you clearly had more talented engineers 30 years agojust use their designs those are the ones that work DEI fucked the auto industry to shit or something how about you just do it and see how it works instead of being fucking faggots that release $80,000 faggot boxescars are made out of fucking plastic now and you're telling me I'm wrong hey fuck you I'm actually the only one with their head screwed on correctly
>>533601096Just the head unit of new electric cars are worth more than some old cars
>>533601594>2003 Ford Focus ZX3 hatchback would be a good one to bring back.Just for the love of god talk with VW or Volvo about rustproofing.There's an abundance of those engines because the cars built around them have since returned to the earth.
>>533601150Reading about Cash 4 Clunkers was fucking insane. Millions of perfectly good cars intentionally totaled in attempt to bail out the auto industry. No wonder zoomers don't drive
>>533601500same reason it is cheaper to make flat screen TVs than cathode ray ones. because they are complete dog shit. and serve as intelligence gathering devices first and consumer good second.
>>533601063Same reason we cant go to the moon again
Exhaust concerns.Chuds gonna say that this doesn't matter and isn't worth the cost, just so they can cling to a romantizised world they never knew.It's pure ideology. If you'd agree, or if you had your shitty case, you'd just find another thing to complain about.
>>533601063Modern cars have to follow all sorts of regulation, are much safer and still use less resources.You could probably crash a 1985 Mercedes into a 2026 Smart and the Mercedes would shatter like an egg.Another problem is size. Almost nobody actually needs a car bigger than a small sedan, but even the smallest cars are now battleships compared to earlier versions (pic related).A 1990 Honda Accord would be widely unpopular when all people want is SUVs.
>>533601168lol, 190hp. The 92 accord is probably faster.
Safety standards
>>533601821If you live in the rust belt, the problem isn't the car.
>>533601519Right about what? Walking into that alley ass-first?
>>533601063i can tell this brain dead zoomer never drove anything from the 90s. Most compact cars were <120 hp with 4-5 speed transmissions. Shit, go up in size to any BOF truck or SUV and they might top out at 60-70mph depending on drive train configuration. Some really basic models didn't have a/c. They fit the road at the time but you're going to not even be at highway speed getting on an on ramp before some mall crawler rolls you over. Yea, cars blow now but i encourage to get on FB market place, buy some normal non-meme non-performance car from 1990 and let me know how it drives.
>>533601063Any fritz would tell you its emmision and safety standards, it’s illegal to make those cars today.Also their is over-financialization. It’s unprofitable to build reliable cars.
>>533602124>mercedes would shatter It wouldn’t. It’s occupant might, though.
>>533602124The first and second generation CRV are heavily sought after because of the 2.4L 4 cylinder and inexpensive upkeep.
>>533602130He can't into LS swapping.LOL indeed.
>>533601063funnily enough, for the same reason we can't build more Saturn Vs and fly to moon
>>533601944LCD screens are 10x times smaller than CRTs electronic and bulkiness wise.How is electric car 10x times smaller than a fucking regular car?
>>533601096also gayer
>>533601168it certainly has character. those exhaust pipes though. the 92 accord was a timeless beaut in a different way. no need for profanity.
>>533602556>LCD screens are 10x times smaller than CRTs electronic and bulkiness wise.yeah it is almost like that makes their business model magnitudes more profitable i don't give a fuck if that makes storage and transport and retail floor space better for them. that shit isn't my problem. what is your point you sped?
>>533601063My mother had a 1992 Accord. It was our family car. She bought it new with cash and we all loved it. A few years ago, some dumbass in a lifted pickup truck rear-ended her, resulting in the insurance totaling it. She regrets not keeping it and having it repaired, despite the cost of repair being more than the market value of the car. I miss that car.
>>533602124>no car retardill smash you and your bicycle with my 1992 volvo you dumb nigger faggot. afterwards ill drive straight through the wall of your whore of a mothers house, smashing her head instantaneously with the mighty force of OG engineering only an autistic swede (male) could construct and drive off with minor lacqeur damage and a smile on my face.
>>533601063Because capitalism requires not sustained profit, but ever growing profit. The return must increase every year forever. Innovation has run out, now it is just planned obsolescence, higher prices, lower reliability, and outright scams.
>>533601063That would be extremely antisemitic.
>>533602680I don't understand the nostalgia for honda at all.I lived back then.WTF
>>533601063Lada knows that, see pic related, have been in continuous production since 1977. But consoomers need to fill their empty souls with constant upgrades.
>>533601063We can't make a 1992 Honda Accord, we don't know how anymore.
>>533601168sorry youre wrong faggot
>lets make cool hatchbacks that young males will buyno uuh, we cant. because uhm we just cant okay?
>>533601227That was 20 years ago chud. Get over it. It has no impact in 2026
>>533602952>I don't understand the nostalgia for honda at all.>Posts a lancia.
aerodynamics have significantly improved mpg in the last 30 years
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car safety regulations dont make much sense. why motorcycles legal?
>>533602250100hp is fine for general commuting and shopping. We should require a higher class license for vehicles over 2500lb with recertification tests every 5 years, and such vehicles should be required to be manual only and no steer/throttle by wire so they're safer for everyone around them.
>>533601096not without M A S S I V E state and government subsidies from robbing taxpayers it ain't
>>533603325>we don't know how anymore.You're telling me that we somehow lost the technology? I'm starting to believe the 1992 Honda accord isn't real and it's all just propaganda.
Single male cars peaked here
The auto manufacturers have lobbied governments to increase safety and emissions standards such that no new competitors can enter the market without massive investment in current technologies and manufacturing processes.
>>533603521>im single because 2 door but i have enough boot(trunk) space to kidnap you type carnot surprised
>>533603446>you dont NEED more than 100hptypical no fun, no guns, cucked faggot
>>533602250> cars were <120 hp with 4-5 speed transmissionsThat is a perfectly normal amount of power. And 5 speed is the normal amount of gears.Also, 120 hp is sports car territory.
>>533601829it is insane. I saw a video talking about how they poured some kind of mix into the engine to completely seize it and make it unusable. Was it just a ploy to try to infuse money into the economy?
>>533603634>no funtell me all how fun Danish car taxes are lol your government is making you ride bicycles and public transit cars are scheduled to become an upper class luxury item like it's 1926
>>533603412A completely rebuiltt and 1000% modified one.You might just be a tard.
>>533601063I miss my old pontiac so bad. That thing was awesome for zooming around town.
>>533603788>Also, 120 hp is sports car territory.you drove a Fiesta XR 2 with the super powerful 107 hp beast of an engine, didn't you
>>533603634If you want to have fun with a vehicle buy a bike. If you want to drive to work buy a Fiat.
>>533603847>tell me all how fun Danish car taxes are lolthey are fucking terrible! the socialist experiment has been detrimental to scandinavia
>>533601063I'd say a 2006 Toyota Camry or a 2011 Ford Crown Victoria would be the top of my list for cars to bring back. If any of you are looking for a reliable and affordable daily driver those two are great.https://youtu.be/3hlmFyWqbHkI drive an 08 Lincoln Town Car that's built on the same platform as the Crown Vic and I love it.
>>533603952Fix It AgainTony
>>533603952no i want a car i can drive around in with my friends i dont want to kill myself on a piss missile
>>533601063Honda Accords with the pop-up lights were kino, I would buy one
>>533601063I've actually always wanted a 1992 Accord.
>>533602880This is just cope to deal with the failures of late stage democracy. Either that or a commie trying to trick people into death and slavery again.The free market has given us sustainable reliable cars before and could do it again so is not the problem.
>>533602952lancia is pretty cool. i gifted a Y10 to my then 23yo gf who was doing her drivers license, and drove that for a bit. it went 115mph and felt like riding a cannonball at that speed. my own car then was an e34. considerably smoother at higher speeds. i have no nostalgia for honda but like the body design. wanting the 90s back is understandable. i'd go for 80s myself.
>>5336010631992 is a little early but would be ok as long as it had EFI. My very first car was a 1989 Honda Accord, it had EFI but not all models of it did. The real sweet spot is 1996-2008 or so. Just the right amount of electronics
>>533603949We had a Fifth generation Toyota Celica 2L, 120HP
>>533601150>>533601829They're thinking of doing that in the Netherlands. 3000 eurocuckbucks for pre 2009 cars, as long as you buy an EV. I hate my government so fucking much you have no idea it's unbearable.
>>533601594I just want a normal sized 2 seat ford ranger. The fucking tiny ass back seats aren’t worth the lost bed space
>>533601096then why aren't they cheaper?
>>533601063The question is twofold- why doesn't the market cater to Zillennials and why doesn't the market hire them and pay them if it wants their business?
>>533601063But 92 Honda Accords were ugly as all hell.
>>533604121its not even bad
>>533601519KIRDBLT
>>533601829Its things like this which make me believe hell exists. Because such crimes against existence cannot go unanswered.
>>533601063Ah yes the good old days of no ABS or traction control
>>533603815It was to force people into buying new cars by wiping out the used car market. It might not have been so bad if cars weren't booming in price at the same time.
>>533604287Never post on the internet again and kys
why don't the make cars with those inner bars you find in rallies? thos cars hit trees like nothing
>>533601063You might be using sarcasm, but it sounds like a good idea. Just because something is a new design does not mean it is better.Antiques were built to last through the ages.
>>533603952>thinks you can't have fun with a carwhat kind of faggotry is this?
>>533601243Have you driven an early 90’s shitbox?
>>533604192120hp was "sports car territory" in the 1930s, maybethe Celica was a wannabe and 120 hp is barely out of roadblock territorycongratulations, you were NOT a snail getting honked at when dad drove you to school
>>533601249The peak is more like 2006. Things went to shit after Detroit went bankrupt
>>533601063We lost the technology, though.We can't build old cars for the same reason we can't go back to the moon.We lost the technology and are idiots now.Soon we will only be able to make electric self-driving retard mobiles.
>>533601096>>533601063isn't this the tesla model basically???/they been selling the same car structure since release, only updating shit and giving it new headlights .
>>533601829>eading about Cash 4 Clunkers was fucking insane. Millions of perfectly good cars intentionally totaled in attempt to bail out the auto industry. No wonder zoomers don't driveThey also did the regulations that favored giant SUVs over small trucks
>>533604163It’s the law, look up shareholder primacy. Absolutely every for profit entity is required to aim for 12% roi for shareholders every year. As soon as hospitals went from nonprofit to publicly traded companies the cost of a broken leg starts growing by 12% a year forever. Something that perfectly scaled for 100 years compared to wages suddenly is skyricketing even though the procedure is largely the same. Why does a broken leg in 1990 cost $250 to see a doctor and fix? But today it’s $32,000!? You should be fucking outraged that shareholders demand a cast return greater profits every year. There is absolutely nothing in our system built to lower consumer costs.Democracy is dead and has been for a while.
>>533602124Left is a death trap. A lot of the space is cushioning for impacts.
>>533601063But how would they steal your information and control you? My car is old. When I rented a new one for a road trip, it had a camera watching my face the entire time and buzzed the steering wheel when it thought my eyes were closed or I looked in the mirrors too long. Fuck that. I will forcefully keep my car going for another 250k miles.
>>533604207>I just want a normal sized 2 seat ford ranger.Also a good choice. Bring that back, too.
>>533601063They would love to make the 1992 civic in a heartbeat. Unfortunately they lost the technology.
>>533601150That was a program to erase our culture. To delete our history.Obama was so slick and sneaky that most of the disasters he initiated weren't even noticed until our recent times.Back then people believed the psyop that if anyobe criticised Obama it was due to racism.We hadn't developed an effective immune response to that mind virus, at that time yet.
>>533604677they now sell chips that disable all those systemsthe camera, the start-stop bullshit, the lane assist thing that jerks your steering wheel, the beeper that recognizes maximum speed by reading roadsigns (incorrectly), etc. it's the new tuning of the 2020s
>>533604300I know! It has that nice, clean, inoffensive early 90s look. Newer cars all look like they're trying too hard.
>>533601063I’m the same mindset>2024 Pathfinder>2004 restored 350z 6 speed convertibleI would take the 350 any day over the Pathfinder if I didn’t have to haul a lot of shit in it like lumber or landscaping stuff or groceries. It’s all analog no weird bells and whistles and alarms and shit just straight drive the bitch. All this shit with backup cameras and lane departure alarms is because people are too busy looking at other shit than to concentrate on driving.Don’t get me wrong the pathfinder is great in bad weather and hauling shit but on a nice day with nothing to do I’d rather be riding old school.
>>533604796Yup my car is 22 years old I don’t need some camera staring at me and I’m just about to turn 50,000 miles on it
>lived long enough to see people having nostalgia over the horrifically ugly family cars of the 90s that created the current bodywork and under hood bullshit design trends we're stuck with today
>>533604650That’s not how it works in healthcare. The biggest payer is the federal government so they essentially determine the rates of everything from a dose of tylenol to chemotherapy to knee surgery. Every insurer basically just looks at what Medicare pays and tells hospitals they won’t pay more than that. You can’t charge an uninsured person whatever you want but you can’t squeeze blood from a stone. Most uninsured patients get care and just never pay any significant portion of it.
>>533601245Not so. Just ask the Cubans.Supposedly, US/Cuba relations are on track to normalizing. If this is so, there will be a major car culture tourism to Cuba BECAUSE of the workmanship and aesthetics of all the pre-90's cars they have preserved there.
>>533605080>design trendsit's government regulation, not design trendsthe more socialism you implement, the more the government intrudes in your privacy and makes decisions about what's good for you, comrade citizen
>>533605080I just like the 80s/early 90s smaller trucksWhy's every truck gotta be a god damn monster constantly at risk of side clipping every vehicle with its extended mirrors and impossible to see over fuck off hood
>>533601500Government subsudies, probably. Corporate welfare.
>>533601245You sound like you take it up the ass and suck dicks and eat cum
>>533601063Regulations regarding "safety" prevent that.
Cars aren't cars anymore, they're tech items like phones or computers. This was an intentional decision to ensure they are outdated within their predetermined lifespan. This is crucial to keep the mass production of cars continuing and to ensure you keep paying them. Old cars are too easy to fix and last too long, you can't be sold a good product nowadays because you won't be spending as much money in the long term.
>>533602837That's impressive. Cars from that era were basically worthless at 100k miles because they didnt last.
>>533601227This. Decimated the lower income community and mechanics.
>>533604377There were gas mileage requirements, iirc, so it wasnt just all old cars. It did take a ton of useful cars off of the road. It was long ago but the used car market never really recovered so I guess it deserves some blame. Even without it we'd probably still be in the same boat since we export a lot of used cars.
>>533601168B A S E DA SED