Why do they really have to ban it forever? Are there bigger interests than "concern" for your well being? They've been demonizing smoking for some time that now everyone's indifferent to this. I'm the only smoker in a workplace of 100? What a hell? What happened to smoking is cool? >Previous studies have reported a 'smoker's paradox', where people who smoke appear to be protected against Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome CoronaVirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection (COVID-19).
Finally something good. Cut off the fingers of smokers one by one.
>>533602214>Why do they really have to ban it forever?because it serves no purpose.
>>533602214I fucking hate smokers. When I'm walking I don't want to have to smell that shit. Smoke in your own fucking house.
>>533602744id rather smell cigarettes than all the brown shits walking around
>>533602744You're fat.
>>533602214Good. Fuck the nicotine jew.
This makes me want to start smoking. What's a good beginner cigarette?
>>533602214Should be bannedI got COPD. I started at 15. Diagnosed last year. People take breathing for granted
>>533602214Smoking is and will always be shit. This needs to happen in the US as well.
>>533602214Tobacco is antiparasitic. It kills intestinal parasites.Therefore it must be banned.Just like Ivermectin.You MUST have parasites.DO NOT DEWORM
>>533602214Kek. Oldfags will make mad profits from reselling cigarettes.
>>533602803>>533602809goyim
As a smoker whi started at 14 years old and has still not been able to quit for over a year in my 30s, I support the idea of making smoking inaccessible. But I don't see a realistic policy to do so. This law might decrease smoking but it will also create a big black market and increase crime.
>>533602214there is the theory that tobacco raises test and can ward off some illness so that could be it.
>>533602214Im on board with drug decriminalisation but a complete tobacco ban. It's such a boring fucking substance with enormous negative effects.
>>533603039Nicotine does that and you can get nicotine without tobacco.Tobacco is just a radioactive plant
Remember that politicians don't care about your health for your own sake; they simply want to prevent you from damaging government property, i.e. "your" body.
>>533602214Next up: alcohol
>2017>Doesn't smoke cigarettesAre you bullied, mentally handicapped or both?>b-but it kills youAnd? Was life a contest about who lives the longest?>it's addicting!!!It's not, as long as you're not under-aged and you can smoke in moderation>it's....IT'S EXPENSIVE!!!Who forces you to buy a pack every day, fucking peat-gavel
Fucking manchildren. Burn rööki
New law:Anyone born before 1970 can't buy a new car. Used only.
>>533602214>bill banning people born after 2008Hell yeah>from buying tobacco
>>533602744Weed smells 10x worse, how do you even notice cigarette smoke with the smell of cars etc
>>533602868Lucky Strike red 100's
>>533602868In America, get Newports regular. Best menthols I've ever smoked. Otherwise, American Spirit (also regular) because no additives if you take to the taste of pure tobacco and best of all (or maybe on occasion), flavored Vietnamese cigarettes if you can get them. In all seriousness, though, idk if you really want to start smoking.. I only did because my teenage years were very stressful
>>533602214I actually agree with this
>>533602744fuck you, i'll follow you home, break into your house and rape you, tie you up and chain smoke all over your house and then i'll rape you again.
stupid law. possession is still legal i assume.
>Smoking esp. cigarettes is on the decline anyway.>I know lets make it a forbidden fruit and also give more oppertunity for the muds to make more black market money.
>>533602214Safetyism gone nuts.I tried, and failed, to purchases a safety knife for work today.A whole hour trying to get the government mandated age verification system to work, and failing at it, just for a £4 safety knife.I'll have to make a prison shiv out of a shard of broken glass and some electrical tape for a handle now.
>>533603475Very based.
>>533602214I am 100% in favour of this. Of course it won't stop someone who really wants to, but it will stop many. Smokers are disgusting.
>>533602214Smoking was always gay and feminine.
Many benefits from tobacco, they don't want you having.
A fucking leaf.
>>533602744Smoking isn't tobacco
>>533602214its okay, they will make up for the lowered number of smoking related deaths by importing as billion more muds to stab people on the street.
>>533602910KWAB
>>533602744>I fucking hate cities. When I'm walking I don't want to have to smell immigrants cooking. Cook in your own fucking country.
Good. Now ban alcohol, attendance at live sports events, televisions, cinemas, TikTok, Instagram, and all forms of pornography.
Smokers should hang!Smokers are poisoning everyone around them with their awful smell, they are littering cigarette buts and boxes everywhere, they have yellow teeth and fingers and wrinkled mouth.Selling bootleg tobacco smuggled from Bosnia should be treated the same as drug dealing with up to 10 years in prison. Cashiers that sell cigarettes and other nicotine products to kids should also receive a lenghty prison sentence.
>>533602214>smoking le bad>but ackshually pumping your body with weed, fent, oxy, coke, heroin, molly, mushrooms, SSRIs is hecking GOOD for you and we need to improve access for people :)The absolute state of the West.
>>533604980Pornography is different nudity and sex should be normalized pornography should be broadcasted on the normal Tv channel mixed in with news, political shows, cartoons, Tv series and movies and there should be no age verifications on porn websites.
>>533602214how to profit from this?
>>533604980you forgot automobiles, after all they shit out tons of carcinogenic fumes that people are forced to breathe in against their will. just as bad if not worse than 2nd hand tobacco smoke.
>>533602744>thinks indoor smoking is a good ideaFucking retard.
>>533604717Correct, the first bong this year that has been right about a single thing. And i am sure the authorities have been notified already.
>>533602214is anyone else getting really suspicious that nicotine is actually good for you or counters kike mind control somehow? they wouldnt be trying this hard if it wasnt impeding their kike plan somehow
>>533602693People enjoy it. It serves the ultimate purpose.
>>533605014Based
>>533605978For sure. Literally everything they push is about control and service for Jews. If nicotine was killing whites, why would they care?
>>533606325See >>533603107
>>533602214Im sure a black market wont pop up overnight to serve demand.
>>533606621Completely invalid, they do a 100 things where they literally go far out of their way to deliberately harm this government property of your mortal coil. The reason for this are the hormonal and cognitive benefits brought on by nicotine use, that may make you as an individual inconvenient to them.
>>533603105I saw somewhere today(maybe here) that scientists somewhere(poland?) Had determined that vaping causes cancer because of nicotine. So they'll probably push to ban it per se.
>>533606937I may choose to damage my own property for any reason I want. What I can't abide is someone else damaging my property for their own reasons.Get it?
>>533606825mate its £20 for a pack of smokes here right now. there's already a black market. They cost like £4 in poland.
>>533607216Okay that take is valid but it still falsely implies that nicotine and smoking is harmful.
>>533602868Cock.
>>533602214Many boomers are upset gen alphas will live 10-20 years longer than they will, enjoy dying in your 70s faggots.
>>533602214the UK parliament is a joke at this point, and so are their citizens
They should ban it for everyone. Doing it like this leaves an opening for someone to sue for age discrimination and ruin everything
>>533602214Next do weed and then alcohol, followed by gambling and finally usery. All retarded vices will be destroyed.
>>533607017you can get nicotine free here, just go to the pharmacy and order it. gum, patches, inhaler thingys.
So you can arrested for bumming a fag but also not get arrested for bumming a fag as long as you don't bum a fag from the fag you are presently bumming.
>>533604411there is no benefit to allowing tobacco companies to operate like a legal drug cartel in the country.Everybody knows smokers get addicted when they are kids, and nobody wants to be addicted to extremely expensive smoking. Its ridiculous that its taken this long, tobacco company CEOs should be executed for the deaths they have caused for profit.I hate this govt, but a broken clock is right twice a day
>>533602214Sweet, a black market for African migrants to slide right into
>>533602214They need the next generation of wageslave cattle to be healthy so they can work at the Amazon fulfillment centers when they are 89, it’s important to support 200 year old boomers healthcare and pensions.
>>533610888checkedThey should give out extremely harsh and unfair punishments for smuggling tobacco
>>533602744I hate cigarette smoke too, but I'd take it over the skunk weed I smell everywhere nowadays.
>>533605245>>533605014>smokers should hang!>nooo don't take away my wankerino material!!!The reddit mind virus.
>>533606143People don't enjoy it. They just think they do because they're addicted. More importantly, it directly negatively affects the health of quite literally everyone around you. Damn near everything else you can enjoy in life that has an effect on other people doesn't actually affect their health at all- it just annoys them at best. This is EXCEPTIONALLY cut and dry.
>>533610879Ok, but why do you attack the citizen who wants to smoke tobacco instead of the companies that you describe as cartels? Why not promote a healthier tobacco market?This is obviously not for the citizen, like every single "anti-tobacco" shit the government does.
Imagine being proud of being a smoker because marketers tricked people into thinking smoking tiny cigars was cool and not gay Thinking smoking is cool is a 100% manufactured marketing idea, completely artificial. People really are cattle, proud of being loyal to their favorite corporations and products
Man I miss bsccy so much its unreal Smoke one for me willya?
>>533611522Nigger, have you ever tried tobacco?Yes, I enjoy it, it doesn't require addiction. >"It's because you are back to baseline, chud!"No it's not, I can easily go for months without smoking. The claim that tobacco is unenjoyable, or that it tastes bad, or that only addicts smoke is so obviously parroted by people who have little experience with tobacco that it's amusing. Like try to stop for a second and think, do you really believe tobacco smoking would have become so widespread just because?>>533611672Because tobacco hasn't been smoked thousands of years before these companies existed. You don't even need to smoke cigarettes to smoke tobacco.
>>533611552because the citizen often doesnt want to smoke tobacco, the "citizen" is usually addicted to tobacco and has been from their teenage years. Would you say the same shit about heroin? We can argue about personal responsibility as if teenagers have it. but i dont understand the point in trying to deflect the argument away from the people who knowingly profit from the mistakes people will definitely make at the population level. Its predatory, and its killing people and making them. Even the slightest hint of any argument that these companies do nothing wrong and should be allowed tom operate is completely retarded.
>>533611983Could you stop smoking? You sound like a pothead, like, it's not even bad for you man, cavemen smoked this shit every day man
>>533611983thats good for you. congratulations. the majority of people aren't like you. be thankful that you have won the genetic lottery when it comes to nicotine addiction, but also, be ashamed of yourself for being so fucking stupid that you would take the chance anyway.Stop smoking you stupid fucking faggot.
>>533611983i have tried over 40 different psychoactive drugs and tobacco was one of the worst. i didn't get a high from it. i became dizzy and my heart started racing. the dizziness from dissociative anesthetics feels like the world has become a roller coaster ride. but tobacco didn't give me the funny kind of dizzy. i felt poisoned.
>>533602300>>533602693>>533602744Bootlicking faggots kill yourselves
>>533611672Like thats the issue, this is dystopian mass ZOG overreach and you faggots clap it on because uh oh stinkyFucking soulless animals
>>533611987Tobacco has been smoked since before such companies existed. Instead of trying to make a more healthy tobacco market what they do instead is tax the hell out of you and police you. Teenagers are all sucking on vapes anyway.>>533612119God forbid people enjoy things in moderation. It's like trying to ban alcohol because people get addicted to it.>>533612069>Could you stop smoking?If I wanted to I could very easily do so. I mean you don't have to believe me if you don't want to. I only really smoke when I want to chill for a while, and if I don't have a nice moment where I can sit down and smoke I simply don't. Sometimes the lapses between smokes are months long, the periods I smoke the most it's more like thrice a week.>>533612205It sounds like you smoked too much for your tolerance level. It happens, I'm a lightweight when it comes to nicotine tolerance so I prefer milder tobaccos that don't take me over that threshold you experienced.
>>533611987>muh addictedAddiction is a meme. I'll smoke half a pack out drinking and then go a week plus without smoking. Shit is not addictive
Smoking is based
>>533612569what the fuck is a "more healthy tobacco market" exactly?You cant just hand wave some magical collection of meaningless words and the problem just goes away.The fact is millions are addicted to smoking, it has killed millions, and your "healthy tobacco market" doesnt exist, never will, and is something a retarded person would say when they think they sound smart.They shouldnt tax it either, just ban it outright, and if that makes you upset, then i just dont really care. tough luck i guess.
>>533612718then you are retarded and will probably just end up smoking full time anyway.why dont you tell the millions of people addicted to smoking that its not addictive.or the millions who have died to smoking related illness."hey guys, its not addictive, thats just a meme, i can tell you this from my life experience as a young guy who only smokes every weekend when im drinking at the moment"lol, you fucking idiot.
>>533605978This. That’s not normal. All while every other fucking drug on this planet gets pushed.Weed is being so heavily forced meanwhile it is proven to lower brain development and having a high risk of psychosis if used daily. Nicotine is the least bad drug habit you can have.
>tfw spirits are 16 dollars a pack here nowI'm not gonna switch to a cheaper cigarette though, and they satisfy my ciggy craving longer than any other brand. I didn't start smoking until my late 20s due to stress/work. I would occasionally smoke cigars and drunken cigarettes for a decade beforehand. Smoking a cigar is also a totally different experience than a cigarette, even the smoke feels different in your mouth.
>>533613057How does the same politicians who are completely silent about rape statistics to the moon because of niggers flooding your country and pushing weed being against one specific traditional drug doesn’t make you skeptical?How the fuck do you want to give them the power to buy something like that and clap? Fucking faggot.
>>533612718I wouldn't say addiction is a meme. Some people are clearly addicts and need help, but for most people what it takes for you not to be an addict is having moderation and knowing one's limits. Same as with any other drug really. You can drink coffee and not be addicted, you can drink alcohol and not be addicted. If you need wine as much as you need water, then maybe ceasing alcohol consuption would be good for you. But banning all of alcohol because people can become addicts is insane.Mind you the prohibition was a major force behind the establishment of Jewish mobs in the Atlantic coast.>>533612970Not allowing cartelised cigarette companies to have an oligopoly? Promoting moderation in consumers rather than having companies min-max the method of tobacco consumption for nicotine absorption?You know there was a time when cigarettes weren't even the main way of tobacco usage, right?>They shouldnt tax it either, just ban it outright, and if that makes you upset, then i just dont really care. tough luck i guess.Neither you and I have a choice at the end of the day, we are mostly at the mercy of those in power, but I would appreciate it if you didn't pretend you are doing it for some sort of moral crusade for the safety of the individual.
>>533602214rules for thee but not for me? Kikes
imagine thinking youre based and redpilled and not being able to see through the obvious media, and political campaign to end tobacco. Meanwhile theyre legalising weed everywhere and giving out needles to junkiesThey care so much about our health, thats why they tried to force the kike spike on us, promote abortion, trans kids, poisonous food supply and on and on
meanwhile vape shops on every corner
>>533602693neither does your dick but we let you keep it anyway
>>533602214>What happened to smoking is cool?People that smoke are not actors that are acting in a movie and smoke to look interesting. They are dumb people poisoning themselves. I have known about many people that were born in the 1950s that smoked since they were teenagers because nobody thought at the time it was so bad for your health and most of them died early from cancer.
>>533613186why should we go to all of this trouble and run this unproven experiment, that is open to endless corruption, just purely so that you can smoke sometimes while telling yourself that you only do it recreationally?There is nothing to gain from doing this. its time we banned tobacco. the benefits of banning it FAR outweigh the benefits of not hurting your feelings.
>>533613186Addiction isn't just like an on/off switch, you're correct. There's more components to being addicted to something than just the direct chemical one. If you have something you genuinely find enthralling, you can mostly distract yourself through cravings, but you'll always occasionally miss how crisp and satisfying a ciggy was at the right time. For me, it's all tied up with severe anxiety and clinical depression (as are most of my habits, drug related or otherwise).
>>533613168More than one societal issue can exist at once. Saying we should allow smoking because we have niggers raping people is a retarded argument.You are an idiot for suggesting it
>>533611983I'm the same way. I smoke when I'm on vacation once a year. I love cigars and going through half a pack of cigs in one fun night. I can smoke regularly for like a month and then quit for the rest of the year without even an inkling of a desire to start again. I just find the whole ritual of lighting up and feeling that smooth buzz. Putting out a cig and then walking away is also just plain cathartic, like closing a flip phone to hang up on someone back in the day.
>>533612353Legalize heroin for children
>>533613536You can't cry about the ill effects of a legal drug until you admit alcohol is easily the most dangerous psychoactive substance globally. And yes, they both should be legal. A freedom hating, bong counting, snaggletoothed Nigel could never possibly understand. Lick my boots.
>>533602868marlboro white or L&M bluethey are good medium strength cigsactually L&M grey would be probably the best for beginner they're low strength, idk if malrboro has equivalent
smoking is based and redpilled.
>>533602910>People take breathing for grantedThey do. I nearly dropped dead from an asthma attack last month.It was terrifying. I had to make peace with possibly dying before the ambulance showed up
>>533602910No way to prove it was caused by smoking probably just your bad genetics, sucks to suck
>>533605978Yes it seems to be good for you and stops the mind rays better than tinfoil
>>533602214>being an addict, smelling like shit and wafting shitsmell on others is coolThat shit would be a violation of the NAP even if it wasn't poison. Op is a homosexual tranny burning his "torch of freedom" to beat the patriarchy.
>>533603107That’s bullshit, they make no effort any other way with any drug besides nicotine
>>533613833being addicted to smoking is the exact opposite of freedom. You can throw as many insults as you want, but defending a trillion dollar industry that predates on the poor in the name of freedom is the kind of dystopian goyim tier cattle opinion id expect from a migapede
>>533613942>smoking is based and redpilled.correct.
>>533612263Pretty ironic projection, faggot.
>>533602214Won't work.Just like alcohol prohibition it will just make black market.In Canada, we already have a massive cigarette black market from native reserves for cigarettes where almost everyone smokes native cigarettes because they're 40 bucks a carton instead of 25 bucks a pack at the store due to excessive taxes.
>>533602214Is tobacco still legal though?
>>533602214Cigarettes are a vitamin. Socialists can't handle it's crippling side effects. Why? Because of a lack of excellence.
>>533613833also, i can cry about the ill effects of a a legal drug all day long if i choose to, i dont have to fist go through the exhaustive list of other substances just to placate you before i may be allowed to have an opinion on the thing we are actually discussing.thats a totally stupid position to take
>>533602214does this include hookah?!
>>533613536>Why should the citizen be empowered rather than be treated like a child?Also imagine thinking prohibition doesn't lead to corruption lolThe people making the laws are not your friend, and moralfagging about the public safety to step over your rights is one of their main MO. I thought that was abundantly clear by now
>>533602693Pretty sure they're banning the wrong kind of faggots
>>533602693I'm sure there's a lot of stuff you do/have that serve no purpose either. And I also bet you'd throw a hissy fit if the government tried to ban any of them and take them away from you.
>>533614146You could just not smoke, dumb bong. That's the whole "freedom" part. Unless you live in a fucking section 8 stairwell, no one is going to be assaulting you with secondhand smoke. I'm not a migger, I'm just not a limp-wristed sissy faggot that wants government to ban more things and pretend a problem was solved. Did you get a little chub when fake incest porn was made illegal too? Hopefully they can start getting assault dildos off the streets of london too.
>>533602214Outright bans on tobacco never last long historically. Progs hate tobacco because it makes people both think and connect. They want people smoking weed which makes people stupid and sit at home.
>>533614289Wrong, you need a loicense to waste my time, citizen.
>>533602214Just ban it entirely. I don't want to have to keep smelling disgusting boomer smokers, either.
>>533614488LOL its a probable 13 to 6 you smoke weed.
>>533602910weed would actually help you it brings up green flem when you wake up in the morning unironically
>>533602214>legally able to decide the political future of your nation>legally required to pay the government its cut from your earnings>legally required to die for national security if needed>n-no you can't simply chose to smoke a plant with thousands of years of prior usage
>>533614335We can just look at the outcome of what empowering the citizen looks like then.millions addicted, spending money on a trillion dollar industry globally, millions dying from related illness.yeah, great point, lets just empower more people to continue being hooked on poison, because its worked so well for generations now.Yes, i know the government is not my friend, but neither are you. like i said, a broken clock is right twice a day.
>>533605978i watched a recent cigar rolling video they remove the nicotine stem because it makes it addictive so probably not this time
>>533614146i would just like to ask as a person personally at what point did you think 300% tax was to much did you ever wonder why 800% tax was ok i guess its fine we should ban it anyway lil nwah shldnt breathe air he cant afford the tax i dont care about that guy that cant pay rent fuck him and his house 3 steppin on me because he canwhatever im steppable akways felt like a modest bhudiist dictation became creed hilarious its our souls that i pray for and why we bleed lol they trying to make us mad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv0YJOY5txc&list=RDCLAK5uy_kLWIr9gv1XLlPbaDS965-Db4TrBoUTxQ8&index=15mons
>>533614213>parrots "projection" because he's seen others use it>doesn't even make sense in this context Retarded faggot
>>533603284Why? I'm for it, as buying new is for chumps. Not much of a punishment.t. Genx boomerfag
>>533614623you need to be hanged you anti-freedom muzzie/kikenobody can interfere with man's freedom to have a drink and a smoke
>>533614623>millions addicted, spending money on a trillion dollar industry globally, millions dying from related illness.if its demographics and health that concern you, you will want phones and the internet banned asap too
>>533614623There is always one or two drugs of choices for society and tobacco is the most based choice among them that there is. OMG it maybe makes boomers die faster (which it probably wouldn't even do if they didn't poison it deliberately) while it makes younger people socialize and think more.The clot shot governments are not against smoking because they care about your health and you are a faggot.
>>533614416>unprovoked, the mutt brings up incest porn, small dicks and tranny porn.kill yourself.>>533614471i wont thenI dont smoke. but i did for 15 years, sorry to say, but im an average person. like millions i was addicted to smoking. I cant see what skin in the game you have here to defend this. I guess corporate tyranny and ingesting poison is the only thing americans know.If the idea that being slaves to corporations isnt actually freedom got out, then your entire world view would collapse.
>>533602744I quit smoking about 12 years ago. The smell of cigarettes makes me crave one to this day.
>>533614859Same. Same timeframe too, actually.
>>533614754continents have been built on less...
>>533603059Midwit take. Alcohol and weed makes you retarded, so they are legal. Smoking makes you smarter, increase your test, is antiparasitic and it has a slight chance of killing you before they work you to death. Tobacco is banned by the very same people who just legalized weed because now we have solid evidence that weed makes you dumb.
>>533614623>We can just look at the outcome of what empowering the citizen looks like then.I would appreciate if you didn't take my words out of context like the faggot you are. Because my reply was in the context of favouring a more healthy relationship with tobacco, not letting oligopolies do whatever they want with it.>Yes, i know the government is not my friend, but neither are you. I never claimed to be your friend, mate.>>533602868If you want to try tobacco I find the more enjoyable method to be cigars and pipe smoking. If you really want to try cigarettes I would say you try rolling your own. These take experience to have a good smoke, but I think in a world where people want everything chewed out for them and easily consumable doing something that requires a little bit of effort and expertise is better, safer, and gives you more control.
Kills covid, respiratory viruses and bacteria and most importantly the nanobots in the vaccine dead. I just moved out of a black mold filled apartment and 4 cigarettes later I hadn’t breathed that clearly since I moved there. Increases free testosterone by 15-20%. Anything the government wants to get rid of you need to be doubling down on.
>>533604411>license for a safety knife>safety knifeI don't even know what the fuck that is.Grim.
>>533614649sorry, i dont speak nigger. I havent got a fucking clue what you just said.>>533614754I'm sorry, i dont want my people do be addicted to a product sold to them by jews that kills them.Im guess that does make me a muzzie/kike and anti freedom. >>533614779this thread is endless whataboutisms. I often see people being cool with banning porn/onlyfans, but somehow banning actual poison is a step too far. >>533614789are you younger than 18? because this is a retarded child tier opinion.
>>533614932Rare based spaniard.
>>533615074I don't recognize your loicense to decide whether I have a child tier opinion.
>>533615074you cannot make a good, functioning society by banning thingsif you think so youve basically given up on enlightenment thinking are ready to devolve into some sharia shithole
>>533602214This is a silly law on par with banning certain haircuts or cursing the emperors beard -sign of a nonsensical and fake goverment. Fuck em i say
>>533614932"i saw funny cloud formations later in the day after i seen those planes making chem trails"You are a retard>>533614956you keep saying this shit about "a healthier relationship with tobacco", like it isnt the addictive poisonous substance that it is.You cannot just use posters and kind words to make cigarettes stop being cigarettes.I'm not your mate, buddy
they need to ban anyone born after 2008 off the internet
>>533614932Legal weed. Not here in Alabama One joint can still get you prison time.
>>533615074its whatever dude ur worth 10x my networth anyway id try to convince you but your already convinced i wonder how much it would cost to change your mind i lied evidently its free and evidentiary you want to say your wrong but you cantlets play a game if your correct what does tomorrow look like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj18EikZMuU
>>533614907About the time when vapes became big.