>>533607778Biden's biolabs.
>>533607778
Putins a boomer bitch with a big ego. Dont worry ruskies we got tone of those pricks over here too
>>533607778They underestimated them. It's that simple. If Putin could turn back time, he probably wouldn't do it. War is stressful. But he didn't expect war. He expected a 3 day victory, maybe 3 months maximum, not as long as fucking WW2.
>>533607778the jews stole it from them
>>533607778Because of me. I wanted a lot of Russian gone
>>533607778Look at what the US is trying to do with Iran right now, and consider that maybe Russia didn't want that shit in their soft underbelly.
>>533607778Putin wants his legacy to be him seen as a stalin-esque nazi smasher. But he's going to instead be remembered as the one that had millions of russniggers sent to the meat grinder and showed the world how weak the russian military really is
>>533607778Ethnic genocide.Remove whites to make space for niggers and jews.
>>533607778Hunter Biden laptop
>>533607870there you are, motherfucker
>>533607827>NOOO YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY WANT A BETTER FUTURE FOR YOUR CHILDREN>You have to stick with the golden horde because...BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE TO OKAY
>>533607778because they're not turbo pussies like the usgay
>>533607778>Why did they invade Ukraine?$2000 a month delet criminal record chance to steal washing machine
>>533607778>fake country whose only national identity is nigger inferiority complex and hating you decides to join organization whose sole purpose is to destroy youVery mysterious, OP!
Diversion tactic to take Russian equipment away from Syria and Iran.
>>533607820>>533607827>>533607855>>533607861Putin already said that it was to denazify the Ukraine.
>>533607778ukraine was cringe
>>533607872Why does no one just watch Putins interview with Carlson lmao. He explicitly states why>>533607921Woah actual facts
>>533608076you have to paint my fence 50 times to earn the same amount and no you cant do it in one summeri will provide apples and banans as always
>>533607958>doxxing own relatives
>>533608153>Putin already said that it was to denazify the Ukraine.Correct, to remove hohol jew nazis.
> Vladimir Putin has used the term "denazify" as a primary, though widely disputed, justification for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which began in February 2022. He claims the goal is to protect people he alleges have been subjected to "bullying and genocide" by the Ukrainian government for eight years and to eliminate what he describes as "neo-Nazi" elements
>>533607778Because joe biden and his administration thought a color revolution/coup in 2014 was a good idea. Plus, hunter biden worked for Burisma in ukraine.
>>533608243he's your countryman, not mine quintessentially Echtes Deutsch
>>533607861Underestimated Ukraine and overestimated their own capabilities. Maybe even believed in their own propaganda at some point.
>>533608369he looks like any polake here lol
>>533608296/thread
NATO expansion
>>533608438his Ausweis says Deutsch tho maybe Deutsch means nothing today, but he is one
>>533608438He resembles your grandpa
>>533607999>the golden hordeis that goldren horde in the same room with you, pigger draft-dodger?fuck off back to jewkraine, to get GRAVE'izied
>>533607778The reason is that Russia viewed NATO expansion into Ukraine as an existential threat.In multiple occasions since the 1990s they said they said NATO expansion threatened them (they even asked if they could join NATO).Because Russia was weak, NATO kept expanding.It turns out that Russia isn’t weak anymore.Their military goal is to wreck Ukraine, turn it into a failed state, and make it unsuitable as a NATO staging area.> Prof John Mearsheimer explains it in 5 minuteshttps://youtu.be/EMR9QxIhUFAHe even predicted this war would happen in a 2014 lecture at the University of Chicago. Why did NATO keep pushing to expand despite Russia’s objections?
>>533608525kek nothing ever changes
>>533607778The official reason is to defend the population of Donbass region from bombings, remove radical nationalist influences in the government, demilitarise Ukraine and defend russian populace living in Ukrainian borders
>>533608376heheh that armour though meanwhile, tactical donkeys.
>>533607778massive misjudgement on putin's part. he thought they'd be welcomed as liberators and ukraine wouldn't raise arms against them after a show of force from a flashy invasion the same way taliban took over afghanistan with almost no fighting at all.
>>533607778To de-nazify the pig raping Ukrainians.
>>533608094>fake country whose only national identity is nigger inferiority complex and hating you decides to join organization whose sole purpose is to destroy youMandatory picrel
>>533608619You're 12. Go choke on a pierogi, polak.
>>533608619>1774027564369078 russia n(...).pngi wish my country was as genocidal as you envision in your schizoid, deluded heads, but that's not the case at all, unfortunately
>>533608538>Why did NATO keep pushing to expand despite Russia’s objections?NATO doesn't "expand", it's individual countries joining the alliance.There are requirements to be met. Poland faced a lot of obstacles in the 90s before it was allowed to join.
>>533608774>a pierogilol ameritard can't even into plurals
>>533607778Live fire exercise that got out of hand.
>>533607867>jews stole it from other jews
>>533608314>>533608586>>533608220Also this I remember when Ukraine got invaded, the media narrative switched overnight from reporting on Covid non-stop to reporting about Russia/Ukraine non-stop.Covid became a compete non-issue.It took me weeks to read up on the events that led up to the Ukraine-Russia war, but normies were immediately very opinionated about the causes of the war and who was to blame (Putler).Propaganda works.
>>533608774I wish I was 12 again. Time flies really fast after you hit 30. A lot of things stops to be amusing anymore, priorities change drastically.
>>533608094Do you consume any information that does not come from /pol/ or twitter?
>>533607778The actual reason is that Ukraine didn't want to be a part of Russia's economic zone / sphere of influence and tried to align with the EU instead. Russia blamed mostly NATO about the war however because they wanted to pressure the United States to leave European security architecture so they could more easily regain the other former soviet republics as well.As to the reason why Russia is so adamant about reclaiming their old soviet sphere including Ukraine, it probably has mostly to do with how Putin and his entourage see themselves as successors of the Soviet leaders and want to undo the collapse of the Soviet Union, at least in terms of territory. Soviet-revanchist boomerism of sorts, in other words.Was it necessary for Russia to invade? Yes and no, depending on whether you speak about the Russian state or the Russian imperial project. The Russian state itself had no pressing need to attack; it could have easily accepted the post-dissolution borders of Europe and facilitated mutually beneficial trade, but the Russian leadership chose to go for the imperial project of USSR 2.0 instead because the strategic culture which Russia inherited from the Soviet Union encourages such thinking.
>>533608932thisfun fact: we joined NATO under a post-communist president who used to be in the russia-controlled communist party russia is so shit even their lackeys wanted out from under their boot lmao
>>533607778eu nato encroachment the border with ukraine is russia's most vulnerable land area in case of another war with euronazis
>>533609099>1775412117375564 4chan fr(...).pnglet me guess, zydopolaczku, everyone should follow poolish propaganda instead of Russian?
>snatched Crimea>saw Ukraine going more towards Europe>thought he could get the rest before then>gets btfo'd by Ukrainian strength and western tech
>>533608817One day you will be larping Sancho Pansa on your trusty tactical donkey.
>>533608296>>533608450Imagine believing this shit justification is even meant to be taken as real and not just adhoc.
>>533607778To keep Nato at bay.
>>533609199>saw Ukraine going more towards Europe>terrified Ukrainians might start living better than pidors in just a few short years
>>533609154>who used to be in the russia-controlled communist party>russia is so shit even their lackeys wanted out from under their boot lmaonice revisionistic gaslighting, poleshit kikehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Polandhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Dzerzhinskyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Pestkowskihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Rokossovskyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronis%C5%82aw_Weso%C5%82owskihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazimierz_Cichowski
>>533609337Already were remember the good old memes of drone videos watching russians run across fields with washing machines
>>533609337>living.pngholy reforced coping, lmaohere's the OG, however, zydopolskie podczlowieku
>>533609376>nice revisionistic gaslighting, poleshit kikeAleksander Kwaśniewski, former member of PZPR, former communist government minster, post-communist president of Poland when we joined NATO in 1997he did his best to make us joinredeemed himself for his communist pastis still a respectable retired politician now even russian lackeys turn on russia when they get a chance
>>533607778For fun. To entertain /pol/. To make Ukraine famous. To create /uhg/.
>>533608932Individual countries consider relations with NATO countries and Russia before deciding to join. They are also offered incentives by both sides. NATO definitely decides who gets to join and therefore it’s accurate to refer to it as NATO expansion.At the 2098 Bucharest summit, the USA proposed that Ukraine should join NATO - the even referred to it as the “Membership Action Plan”.Merkel and Sarkozy were both opposed to Ukraine joining NATO. She even said that “Putin would view Ukraine’s NATO membership as a declaration of war”.https://youtu.be/ObRyVtszTQU
>>533609154Polish post- commies were torn between the prestige from joining NATO and obstruction of the process.Szeremietiew (the initial projects of Territorial Defense and "Krab" mobile artillery) used to write on his blog about the absolute shit he had to deal with during that period in MOD.
>>533607778to fuck men apparently. anyway, why the hell do we never get invaded? i fucking hate turtles.
>>533609515w dupie mam twoje kacapskie edity ruska onuco
>>533607778Why did you beat the shit out of your wife who was trying to leave you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0-GsciZPo4
>>533609523Poles betray everyone. They already started betraying the USA once they smelt new opportunities.
>>533609583we pulled all the strings and used all our assets, Brzeziński first and foremost thank God it went through imagine being Belarus in 2026
>>533609456
>>533609602>w dupie mam twoje kacapskie edity ruska onuco"kurica nie ptica, Pol'sza nie zagranica", keep that in mind, zydopolskie gownoyou're next after Jewkraine, but this time we'll be genociding you -- no mercy like in 1864/1905
>neural net>losing submarines to an army with no navy>the classic coup attempt>general dr evil forcing retreat from kherson>shoigu wheres my fucking ammo>gets invaded>begs north korea for helpHonestly embarrassing that Russia couldn't even hide it's drama even if it was losing.
>whythere is no why
>>533609721>you're next after Jewkrainesure, in two weeksnie zesraj się czekając
Russia wants compensationIf NATO expands, then Russia must expand also.NATO took the Baltic states and so Russia took Ukraine.
>>533609136Where’s the evidence for this or are you just making shit up?The Russians have stated multiple times that the reason for the war was the threat of NATO expansion into Ukraine.Merkel and Sarkozy knew this in 2008 at the Bucharest summit, and cite it as the reason why they objected to the USA’s membership action plan for Ukraine.See>>533608538>>533609540
>>533607778are you trying to have a serious discussion or are you just a 1pbtid bot, because you see it all goes back to the establishment of the mongolian nation in the year 356BCsee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOCWBhuDdDo
>>533609721
>>533609878NATO does not expandcountries request to join NATO and have to meet 9001 terms and conditions to be invited pidor just hates to see his former empire fall apart and will bully anyone trying to escape, like Georgia and the -stans
>>533607778DPR, LPR was Russians Now it does
>>533609819>sure, in two weekstwo weeks? right now, lmao, already 45k polakike volunteers have died in the Ukraine, and more on the way
>>533608619>fuck Chechnya Interesting, so you think unilateral secession is valid? Oh wait but then that would invalidate the claims of Russian “occupation” in Crimea. Even so Russia more or less recognized their status in 1996.>fuck Chechnya againbasayevs forces invaded Dagestan and Russia fucked them up. Was Russia supposed to just sit back and let them? Either way I think simping for Islamic terrorists who are famous for murdering children is pretty gay.>fuck Georgia Georgia literally fired the first shots, even the EU investigation on the matter concluded Russia was in the right. Russia didn’t do anything out of the norm, Georgia violated their ceasefire agreement with Abkhazia and attacked Russian solders.>crimea is rightful clay Okay so when Chechens secede you think it’s cool and valid but when Crimeans secede it’s hecking occupation? The only thing I get from this image isn’t that Russia is le bad, it’s that your hatred of Russia is totally irrational. Your entire perception of Russia is that they are evil and anything they’re involved in must be nefarious, even when your stupid ass meme doesn’t demonstrate “Russian aggression” at all.
>>533610027>45k polakike volunteerswhy not 450 000?go big or shut up
>>533609183Wouldn't hurt. Your propaganda has degraded over the years. Now it's somewhere between schizo fairy tales (Ukraine biolabs) and 80s USSR bullshit (natzees!).Nowhere close to the level it used to have in the early 2010s. Mostly because Putin's stooges have ruined any credibility your media have had left.
>any zigger using the NATO excuse forgets Finland is now a full member of NATOnext excuse niggers
>>533609745Very interesting. Maybe you should do a special military operation of your own to show us. Last time I checked you were too afraid to join the special military operation of your closest ally with his full support.
>>533609008>media narrative switched overnight from reporting on Covid non-stop to reporting about Russia/UkraineThis big story in the USA in 2021 was electoral fraud, real or alleged.Ukraine was a convenient distraction.People who in 2021 were full of rage at Biden and the Democrats a year later had forgotten all about that and were full of rage at Putin and Russia.
>>533610084We still fund Ukraine, with your money lmao cope and seethe tranny
HIV+ssians are docile white niggers and I wish death upon them and all commies, shitskins, mutts and s*rbs who support them
>>533610084we are a defensive alliancealso>we're not touching you
>>533610198>HIV+ssiansIt's HIVans
>>533607778Ultimate live-fire training exercise/ bydlo extermination program, and it worked. Russia is now ranked as the #1 most powerful military in the world.
>>533610133You still shit bricks when our jet suddenly decides to change its flying route.
>>53360913630th anniversary of collapse of USSR fell in December 2021. Most westerners ignored that anniversary, but Russians didn't. I would guess this was the moment Putin made decision to invade.
>>533610278Yes yes Ivan like we don't have submarines parked outside your doorstep waiting to glass you.
>>533610077>Wouldn't hurt.right, wouldn't hurt of us, Russians, genociding the whole subhuman judeo-polish race and occupying your fake-ass country
>>533610278yes, we're worried about your 1980-designed pieces of shit falling off the sky and littering our beautiful countryside
>>533610007Stop lying.Anyone with an internet connection and search “nato expansion” and find several examples of respected research institutions and governments using this terminology.
>>533608817>Currently engaging in brutal land invasion while kidnapping Ukrainian childrenHow much worse can it get? Russians are the most apathetic losers on the planet, it feels good to be a westerner knowing my life will always be more fulfilling than yours lol. Go sign a contract and die in a ditch
>>533610348>occupying your fake-ass countryyou can't even take Nizhnya Zapizdovka, population 50 lmao
>>533610414NATO does not go around asking countries to join it's countries that request to be invitedstop sucking russian cock and playing word games
>>533610348You must admit we managed to be here for a very long time for a fake country.
>>533610318The conversation is over. Come back when you actually do a special military operation and show us what you really can do on the battle field. Until that save your tough stories to your fellow tank-topped bum boys and female letterboxes of peace.
>>533609878The Russians have made plenty of claims about the reasons for the war, there is some truth to many of them while some are made specifically for a certain target audience.Before 2014 Russia had been building relations with Western Europe and there was a general understanding (not public of course) between Russia and Western Europe that the United States would eventually pull out of Europe and then Russia would more or less be "given" back its old soviet sphere by Western Europe.NATO membership for Ukraine would have require unanimous support from NATO countries and Western Europe based on the aforementioned understanding with Russia would have blocked it, as you cited the French and German leaders said, hence I don't consider it a credible scenario; too many people in both Europe and in the US considered Ukraine's NATO ascension unwise. Even Kissinger advocated against it.Which of course raises another question, why would NATO membership for Ukraine be a threat to the Russian state? It wouldn't be, but it would be a threat to the Russian imperial project since acquiring Ukraine back to their own sphere would be much harder if it were a NATO member.
>>533607778To take back what's theirs
>>533610592>Come back when you actually do a special military operationshould probably take your own advice considering you're kind of losing.>bum boystypical russian thinking of gay shit again
>>533610261either way, they are disgusting niggers that need to be eraticated, their kvetching here is boring and the fact that they made their own safespace general because they couldn't handle the gore and bantz says it all.
Russia should've kept to the James Bond scheming stuff. Shoving drunken hillbillies into drones and generally sucking at war kinda ruins the allure. Thanks for letting us defang you from a distance though.
Basically they sat by when the CIA started a revolution to overturn an elected official. NATO had promised not to move one inch closer but the US had other plans.When they decided to shell the border areas around Donbass area and kill native Russians, it was more than Putin would accept. They have had the ability to remove Kiev any day they wanted. Instead they took the ground being attacked, secured the area around Crimea, then halted and secured.
>>533610429>while kidnapping Ukrainian childrenwhy do we need jewish children, tard? >>533610560>not going anywhere.jpg>kingdom of polandnonexistent revisionist entity created by coping bydlo-polakikes to justify the existance of their madeup country; in reality there were fragmented principalities between 1290-1569
>>533607778Jews made them to set the conditions for Israel to expand its territory in the middle east.
>>533611043Piłsudski's Intermarium is gayer than he envisioned, but it's slowly becoming the reality.
>>533610620The huge flaw in your argument is you act like the euro maidan never happened. The narrative given over and over is that the maidan was totally democratic and not at all a color revolution, and likewise there was never a civil war in Ukraine over a legitimately elected president being illegally removed from office. The claim I hear over and over is that no one in Donetsk and Lugansk opposed the maidan and all the soldiers that fought there in 2014 are actually Russian soldiers in disguise…this is of course assuming people even acknowledge the war in Donbas, which people tend not to because it’s inconvenient to the narrative of “one day Russia invaded for no reason whatsoever”. From a strategic perspective Ukraine being nato a huge problem given they’re a short drive from Moscow and the stretch to there is flat and hard to defend. Now factor in the fact Ukraines government was replaced with fanatics who despise Russia for simply existing and it’s not a good recipe for long term success. The Ukrainian nationalists have always been insane but before this point they were relatively contained, now they’re running the country and currently running it into the ground. This is the whole “denazify” part of the SMO, groups like right sector, svoboda, and azov are duplicitous and impossible to live around, as long as they continue to function they will keep engaging in terrorism.
>>533610719How's that going for them? You sound like a Galloway supporter
>>533610620Where is the evidence that Russia wanted to occupy Ukraine as part of some “imperial project”?Merkel and Sarkozy were the only Western leaders to oppose Ukraine’s NATO membership plan in 2008, because they understood that Russia viewed further NATO expansion as a final act of aggression; an existential threat. Nevertheless, steps were taken (mainly by the USA) to bring Ukraine into NATO. This culminated in the CIA-backed Maidan (orange) revolution in 2014 were the pro-Russian president of Ukraine was ousted in a coup d’état.> Lecture on the causes of the Ukraine war by one of the world’s leading international relations scholarshttps://www.youtube.com/live/qciVozNtCDM?si=TyWB5eYDIs7n6x0P
>>533611263>Piłsudski's Intermarium is gayer than he envisioned>implies Piłsudski kike wasn't pro-faggotry just like the modern-day NATOthe amount of revisionism, holy shityou polak-bydlos are really pathetic when it comes to creating a good non-contradicting narrative/image for your fagg-ass country
>>533609721Why does your basedack have Third Reich imagery, an USSR cap and a "Z" patch?
>>533607778Depends on how far you want to go back. Best to start with Reinhard Gehlen and keep going till you reach February 2022.
>>533611736>Third Reich imagerycuz both of my great-grandfathers took part in supressing the polish uprising in 1944, slaughtering gazilions of poles>an USSR capfrom since USSR army had the Russian Czarist cockade, you lower IQ bydlo?the soviet caps had stars on them, not Russian Imperial cockades, FYI
>>533612078>the soviet caps had stars on them, not Russian Imperial cockades, FYIFascinating
>>533607820he had the power to change the nature of organic life, but it came at a cost, he could not remember his name
>>533608599>massive misjudgement on putin's part. he thought they'd be welcomed as liberatorsAs I understand there is much nostalgia in Ukraine for USSR among older people of Putin's generation, and if he had launched this invasion 20 years it's possible that's exactly what would have happenedProblem is that a whole new generation has grown up since then that remembers nothing of that and instead looks to Poland and the west as models of development, not Russia.
>>533611043https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_warThis is easily obtained information Ivan. Now go sign that contract!!!How does it feel knowing Russia is never gaining that "world power" status back? Genuinely the laughing stock of the world after this failed "Special Military Operation"
>>533607827Look at all these CIA crisis actor mutts imported from the US to “protest”. Disgusting.
>>533611358Most Ukrainians preferred the EU alignment, technicalities aside the parliament was correct to oust the president for going against the public will, that is how a democracy is supposed to work. Riots, even violent ones, don't disprove that.Whether the Ukrainians elected nationalist leaders or not is a matter for the Ukrainian people. European NATO countries had no desire to attack Russia and the Ukrainian "nazis" would never have attacked Russia alone. The whole point about "Russian strategic vulnerability" is nonsensical since the Ukrainians were worried about being attacked by a larger country that would annex them after their political coercion had failed, which ended up happening twice, yet you portray the Russia as the weaker and endangered party.>Where is the evidence that Russia wanted to occupy Ukraine as part of some “imperial project”?Because they still considered it to be a part of their de-jure sphere of influence, hence they objected to it joining NATO and facilitating trade a trade agreement with the EU. If Russia had no designs over Ukraine they wouldn't care who Ukraine trades with or with whom they join in defensive alliances with. And because they are occupying Ukraine as a part of an imperial project right now.>a final act of aggression; an existential threatYou still fail to understand the difference between Russia as an imperial project and Russia as a state. Russian project to regain the soviet sphere would have been threatened by Ukraine's NATO membership, but the Russian state had no reason to fear it; NATO had no desire or reason to attack Russia. The imperial project was a choice by Russian leadership, not a geopolitical necessity.
>>533611507>>533612913the second half is for you
>>533611507I can understand Hans sucking off Mearsheimer, since he said Germany should have nuclear weaponsHe also said Ukraine should never have given up their nuclear weapons.So maybe Mearsheimer just says whatever?but how about>a landing at Hostomel carbon-copied from the invasion of Hungary>a massive invasion from a supposedly neutral country, thousands of kilometers away from the "ethnic Russians" of Donbass, but paradoxically pretty close to the political center of the country>RIA Novosti crowing that "Ukraine would be reconstructed in its rightful place in Ruskyi Mir">Putin's own words
To create more living space for Jews. Nearly all the Ukrainian men are dead, they will be backfilled with Israelis. American Jews can easily get Israeli citizenship, then use the citizenship to come in as "Israelis with Ukranian heritage".
>>533612801>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_waryou're not answering my question, sneaky fag, an article created by a pack of schizoids is not an argument>This is easily obtained information Ivan.how about we, Russians, kidnapp you and slowly and bloodthirstily torture you to death, though?
>>533607778Everybody knows why. They're worse than nogs.
>>533613154>tf>tp>pajeetleaf failing to notice Canada has 10 times the percentage of Ukrainian descendants as the USbe careful out there
>>533607778FafoSimple as
>>533610969>shell the border areas around Donbass area and kill native Russians, it was more than Putin would accept.Putin is haunted by fate of his 2 predecessors. His one guiding objective is to not end up like them.What destroyed Gorbachev (and indirectly USSR) was failure to support Iraq in 1991What destroyed Yeltsin was failure to support Yugoslavia in 1999When Putin looked at Donbass he saw history repeating a 3rd time -- a friendly Russia-aligned people were under attack by USA and its allies and he HAD to do something to help them
>>533607778common senseIf China ever set military bases on Mexico-US border with long range missiles that could reach Washington DC, what do you think would happen?Think of how stupid someone would sound.......>Why did USA iNVadE? ?? ?
>>533607778They got drunk and thought it was a great plan and the next day they just went with it, Four years later they are fucked and can't find a way to escape for the Hell they have created for themselves and others.The KGB failed in governing Russia and the USSR and they have failed again giverning Belarus and Russia in the current day. They are basically unfit for anything much above being poisioning gangsters,
>>533614777>When Putin looked at Donbass he saw history repeating a 3rd time -- a friendly Russia-aligned people were under attack by USA and its allies and he HAD to do something to help themYou do spew some shit. No one was attacking any Russians in the donbass a GRU agent called "The unit were mostly Russian Armed Forces 'volunteers' from Russian-occupied Crimea and wore no insignia. Girkin admitted that this action sparked the Donbas War. He said "I'm the one who pulled the trigger of war."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_GirkinIf you are not a kremlin propagandists you certainly do soak your brain in their piss here too much. Are you one of their nucommies or an imported one fresh off your rubber dingy?
>>533615665>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkinseethe, polakike rapefugee, it's absolutely justified, sending our GRU agents to commit some TOTAL UKIE DEATH, if ukies are being aggressive towards us
>>533607778Why did Epstein talk to Zelensky in the mails about the war being a possibly good way to traffic ukrainian whores (kids) to the pedoelites? LOL. Ukrainians are nothing but whoresons for the kikes.
>>533609199I'll go halvesies with him.
>>533607827Do you think these retards regret it now? Hindsight being 20/20
>>533612968Putin is a cautious man, timid even. He does not like war. I can see how his mind worked. His initial plan was just to occupy these two rebel territories on the border. This would have been repeat of Crimea occupation in 2014. Quick, easy and bloodless.BUT... these territories have awkward borders, as does Crimea. To make all three territories viable, and to defend them from continued attack, there must be an additional buffer zone. So now you have Russian armies going deep into Ukraine, approaching Kiev even... so why not take the capital as well? And why not link up with the Moldova rebels also?So now original occupation of small border territory has become invasion of most of the country.Putin needed to have someone tell him "that's not going to work" and force him to keep to his original limited objective. But who is going to talk to him like that?
When Putin finally dies is there anyone in Russia that will still care about Ukraine?
>>533615872Ukrainians are too dumb to reflect or regret, they are subhumans who do the biddings of their overlords much like Russians at least the other doesn't pretend to be democratic whilst assassinating opposition to their propaganda.
>>533615872>do you think these retards regret it now?one ukie that i know do regret it, he's pro-Russian nowall the commonsensical people in Ukraine have already switched over sides only the braindead suicidal piggers still shilling for pro-EU integration
>>533608376>that picholy shit, takes me back to pre-ukraine invasion russsian military mythos. some thought they were tacti-cool gods of war, with the best special forces of all the world. remember that twitter retard who claimed they were going to take ukraine in less then 3 days in a mastermind military operation?well, that image got shattered pretty fast. it's good to know nobody is even close to our level out there.
>>533607999Hey, look! A tranny!
>>533616272>it's good to know nobody is even close to our level out there.how's that liberation of a BANAN in Iran, tho', kike-boychik?
>>533612801The ONLY evidence of Russia kidnapped kids is Zelensky said so, faggot shill.Zero evidence can be produced because it was a cover story to explain the kids Zelensky was kidnapping to send to the west. White kids are expensive.>https://vtforeignpolicy.com/2023/09/ukraines-child-trafficking-supervised-by-nato-and-zelenskys-personal-involvement-report/>In the course of a long and complex investigation, the Foundation to Battle Injustice managed to find out that the structure and mechanisms of the special child abduction units “White Angel” and “Phoenix” were created with the direct participation of NATO advisers in Ukraine. Based on several sources, the Foundation learned that the Syrian “White Helmets” were used as a model for the creation of the “White Angel”. Admiral Anthony Radakin, one of the key NATO advisers to President Zelensky and Commander-in-Chief of the AFU Zaluzhny, patronized the creation of the organization. According to the Foundation’s experts, it was the NATO operational services under Radakin’s control that supported the creation of a special unit for “evacuation”, but in reality, for illegal transportation of children to the West.Anthony Radakin, 57, has been Britain’s Chief of Defense Staff since November 2021. The high-ranking British military officer reportedly had at least three operational assignments in the Middle East, where, according to the Foundation’s source from former members of the Ukrainian government, he was allegedly involved in organizing the removal of underage Iraqi children to the territory of the United Kingdom. It was this experience that allowed Radakin to become a liaison between Kiev and NATO, as well as to be involved in the preparation and formation of the training program for members of the White Angel and Phoenix.
>>533613420Odd how they have a manned space program and you have 0.5 of an airport.
>>533607778watch the documentary Ukraine on Fire if you really give a shit and want to be above normalfaggot niggercattle spouting "puccia bad!"
>>533607778Ukraine was killing it's own people.
>>533615665War in Donbass was stalemated for years. Neither side could defeat the other.Putin realized that this was going to change because of 2020 election.Democrats hated Putin and Russia for hacking the 2016 election and installing Trump in White House. So now military assistance to Ukraine was going to greatly increase, and Kiev was going to defeat the rebels.This Putin could not allow, because it would destroy him, like happened to his predecessors.
>>533609008And before covid news were, at least here, about migrant crisis all the time. The entire evening news were only about migrants. Covid comes, no mention of migrants at all.
>>533616669>Russia hackedYou are a special kind of retardNo politician believed thatRussia just wanted to be left alone with thier new territory. Unlike Israel nobody was kicked off thier land like in the Golan heights. People were free to sell thier land and move to Ukraine if thet wanted to.The land should belong to the people living on it.
>>533615665>No one was attacking any Russians in the donbassI wonder if you're a shill or a guy who fell for the shilling
>>533616876You must be joking, look up the Russia Collusion thing. They spent nearly a decade harassing Trump over this.Even today many Democrats are convinced that Russia sabotaged Clinton and made Trump president in 2016.
>>533610620>Which of course raises another question, why would NATO membership for Ukraine be a threat to the Russian state? It wouldn't be,Its funny when you faggot shills pretend to be reasonable.>why would Russia's sworn enemy aquiring the easiest invasion route to Russia be a threat?
>>533607900Go back to watching Disney, timmy
>>533607778The US overthrew Ukraine and installed a puppet government with the express purpose of using Ukraine to provoke and instigate a war with Russia. There was a laundry list of things Ukraine did:>Democratic representation stripped from eastern Ukraine, who heavily supported Yanukovych>Bombed east Ukrainians, predominantly Russian speakers>Banned Russian language>Banned the Russian Orthodox Church>Violated Minsk treaty>Built up a NATO trained and equipped army to attack the east again and also Crimea>Threatened and made moves to join NATO>Threatened to host hostile NATO nuclear weapons directly on Russia's borderThe last 2 where what directly started the conflict in 2022. The idea there would be to turn Ukraine into a missile base and weapon against Russia where they could shoot nuclear missiles at Moscow from close range. So finally Russia is forced to do something it does not want, for it's own security.
>>533616989Have you watched the news lately you retarded faggot. 100% fabricated and the people that made it up are about to be charged.Its like your faggot brain is brokenZero evidence ever existed of Russian hacking anything.It was all>The ukrainian guy from Croudstrike said so.More like contracting out cybersecurity to ukraine by the DNC let THEM have access to every device owned by every democrat for blackmail.
>>533609099Russian propaganda was all over the internet after Trumps 2016 win. It was the status quo of normies opinions up until Russia failed to take Ukraine.
>>533610007>NATO does not expandSure, just like Russia is not at war with Ukraine, it's a "Special Military Operation"You're just being pedantic, the addition of new allies is a type of expansion.
>>533607778Probably the same reason American went for iran. You have an army millions of soldiers, tools & tech. it seems temptation gets its way eventually.
>>533607778Because Russia lost their bases and ports in Syria. The invasion was to protect Crimea which is Russia's only access to the black sea to med. You see nordstream was about cutting off Russia's access to the north sea. The CIA regime changed Syria to deny Russia access to the med.Why? To isolate Russia from international trade. To regime change Russia, remember? Same idea with the war against Iran today.Why? To curb Russia and to start to isolate China. There's a cold war going on right now of America vs China which is being fought via proxies Russia and Iran.
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>>533617238That was proven in court to be a lie.Concord Media the.accused "troll farm" showed up to court and the DOJ couldnt produceba scrap of evidence.The case was dismissed with prejudice meaning it can never even be litigated again.
>>533617416Russia still has a naval base in DanascusIs tonight retard night?
>>533616989Shut the fuck up retardNobody believes your nigger nonsence
>>533607778Cause Putin is the Zigger King so he has done the ziggerist thing imaginable
>>533617416The US has been the key aggressor against Russia since independence in 1991 for basically no reason.However what actually happened was that around 2010-11 the US and Israel started ISIS and began a campaign of overthrowing secular Arab governments, i.e. the Arab Spring. Russia intervened in Syria, basically stopping what could have been a US ground invasion. This made neocons and the Obama administration so incredibly assblasted they decided to proceed with a plan to overthrow Ukraine and take the Russian naval base at Sevastopol in Crimea. Now one would ask, what is a Russian naval base doing in Crimea? In fact it's a centuries old Russian base, so the real question is what is Crimea doing in Ukraine, as it was historically Russia and is/was inhabited by Russians. The fact is that it was given to Ukraine by Nikita Kruschev, a Russian Ukrainophile then head of the USSR. So this can dispel any notion of Russian hatred of Ukraine. This is a simplified view and there is more nuance like the fact Russians and Ukrainians are the same people but I can't type a novel here.
>>533607778A civil war going on in the east for almost a decade that was probably going to escalate at some point one way or another.
>>533618052All trade to the interior of Russia sails past Crimea. A blockade would destroy thier economy in months. Which was the plan.Pic is shipping lanes
>>533616989 chatgpt
>>533617654>>533617709Are you a glownigger? Thanks for spoon feeding me. I know that generally speaking Americans did want peace with Russia before Putin invaded Ukraine. Americans didn't care about Russia annexing Crimea. Americans didn't care about Russia selling Europe LNG. It was DC and the pentagon that cared which is why Ukraine got regime changed, nordstream got blown up, Russia got sanctioned.it wasn't Americans who wanted or did any of this. It was the government, it was your types. >>533618506That's correct because i know denying Russia access to trade was how the British empire contained Russia. How sweden contained Russia. You stop Russia by cutting off its access to international trade. Most of Russia's exports are raw materials. And they need finished goods for import.
>>533619263You are a piece of shit shill talking out if your ass.No Russia didnt lose thier port in SyriaNo there was no masive Russian shill campaign for TrumpLike I said they proved in court Russian troll farms dont exsist (or at least the USA never had evidence of it)
>>533619556Come on i know the DNC supported Trump to split the Republican vote via DNC emails. I am saying after Trump won Russia was reaching out to America in an attempt for peace. Americans didn't want war, sanctions, nordstream blown up before the government did it anyway. Americans just wanted peace and trade with Russia. Why? Because Americans don't hate Russia and wanted Russia an ally against China. Well guess Americans are going to fight Russia, Iran and China now. Yes i didn't know(because i didn't look it up) Russia still has their naval base in Syria.
>>533619807I apologizeHere's a happy white guy for any stress I caused
>>533607999Euromaidan lunatics chose much worse future for Ukrainian children.
>>533607778Autism and hubris of an old and corupt man.
>>533607778There have been a million reasons offered by the kremlin and none of them are rational or have held the test of time. There's no doubt that the legion of schizophrenic spiritual "philosophers" surrounding Putin had a huge hand to play in it, though.>>533608538There is no rational basis for the fear that Ukraine may join NATO. Prior to 2014, the prospect was always shut down swiftly and decisively. Russia rarely even claims this as the cause for invasion anymore.
>>533607778To kill Russians, unironically
>>533607778Chabad Lubavitch stratagem
Russian foreign policy is based around the idea Russia is still a global great power and that the post-Soviet countries are their sphere of influence by right. This is a fairly ridiculous idea but it's the supreme doctrine within the FSB, passed down by KGB boomers like Putin who miss the days where they were engaged in a 1v1 for the fate of the world.Ukraine is the most valuable post-Soviet country and the one that should be closest to Russia in terms of culture. Yet all the poisonings, bribes, annexations, funded rebels, Russian soldiers masquerading as rebels, etc. weren't actually enough to keep Ukraine from choosing the EU because Ukrainians see how rich Poland got and want that for themselves while Russia-aligned countries are all corrupt poor shitholes.So Russia was left with the choice of either admitting they're an irrelevant has-been with delusions of grandeur or going double-or-nothing by invading Ukraine and shoving them back into the Russian mir by force. Putin had swallowed his own internal propaganda about them being back to their old Soviet fighting strength and figured this would be a Warsaw Pact-style invasion like Hungary and Czechoslovakia. No such luck.
