>took decades of build up before rapidly escalating into sudden violence>and that was basically after every alternative was exhausted, including political>polarization so severe it split entire states, towns and families with brothers not caring if they were blood and flesh—they were quite literally willing to bayonet each other over the issue>when it did spill over to war—technological progress was rapidly accelerated with things like submarines, machine guns, and even tanks being dreamed up all as a by-product in order to aid in mutts obliterating other mutts over a single ideal>Still America's bloodiest warIs it really that absurd to say this sort of shit can't happen again? Yeah, no fucking shit the country that's historically been synonymous with political stability has yet to implode. As if this country is suddenly equivalent to the Sub-Saharan Africa (At least basically no more than the rest of the West)
>>533619944Civil war is a lie and was never about freeing slaves. It was about southern farmers and plantation owners not wanting to pay taxes to the yanks (probably Jews) in the north.
>>533619944But really just from the technological progress perspective here—what would even be the 21st century equivalent? Swarms of drones? Autonomous combat robots paired with AI? More complex neuron-powered computers? Battles possibly spilling over into space? >Americans are too unmotivated to kill each otherAs if your average mutt who fought then wasn't a fucking farmer lol
It's no different than when Germany is forced to cull slavs every once in awhile. The south will need to be lawn mowed again
what is the materialist divide?no one is going to civilizational war over culture war shit
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>>533620007Wrong, retard. It was about states rights and federal government overreach, of which slavery was a component.
>>533619944>Is it really that absurd to say this sort of shit can't happen again?most americans today are lazy cowards, they would never spend years of there lives fighting a giant war in their own backyards in todays world. random sporadic acts of violence will keep happening but a full on civil war is basically impossible without complete societal collapse happening
>>533620380Nigger everyone had slaves and the emancipation proclamation wasn’t till 2 years after the civil war ended Stop reading your jew owned history books
The abolition of slavery during the Civil War only became central because it was such a significant part of the Southern economy. The North had already industrialized heavily through its ports, rail, and manufacturing, while the South relied far more on agriculture and never developed the same level of infrastructure, which ultimately gave the North a major advantage. The war itself was also ignited over resistance to central banking powers. Nevertheless, both sides were tied into the same Masonic power structures “ordo ab chao.”The South had interest and indirect backing from Europe, particularly Britain and France, even if it never became full recognition. It was probably simply to destabilize the union further. Meanwhile, Russia sent naval fleets to American ports, to show support for the Union. If I’m not mistaken ultimately the union was granted major funding which it accepted the demands of a central bank, so they too were backed by Europe.
>>533620591>the emancipation proclamation wasn’t till 2 years after the civil war endedemancipation proclamation: January 1863civil war ends: April 1865
>>533620233You won't do shit, pussy.
>>533620650I thought greenbacks were used instead of the banks
>>533620755Greenbacks were printed because the Union didn’t want to rely entirely on high-interest loans from banks, but that doesn’t mean banking power just disappeared. At the same time, the National Banking Acts were passed, which actually built out a nationally coordinated banking system. So you’ve got both happening at once, government-issued money and a more centralized banking structure growing in the background. The fact they even had to issue Greenbacks kind of proves this. If everything was fine with the banks, why go around them at all?
>>533620591>everyone had slaves*mostly everyone in the south.
>>533620755>>533620901Ultimately, it wasn’t about who won. It was about stressing the system enough and causes so much chaos that regardless of the outcome the banks win.
>>533619944Property Taxes. Lincoln the crypto Jew wanted them, the South did not. They knew it property taxes would enslave all men forever. The South fought and died to try and prevent our current situation: tax slaves.
>>533620996You got him, tigerDid you sleep at all
>>533620007Fpbp >>533620380Close but the union didn't give a fuck about slavery. Two yanks, one from Ohio and another from ny penned and passed the Corwin Amendment in both the house and the Senate. It failed to ratify because the southernern states said we don't give a fuck if you guarantee slave ownership in the Constitution, we're seceding anyway. It was overreach but slavery was a political afterthought. The nigger base didn't care much one way or the other and it only got pounded into people after the Jews showed up in droves in the 1900s
>>533621070I only got like 3 hours of sleep in. Thankfully I'm on sick leave for the rest of the week and the next.
>>533620693>>5336205911% of the population had slaves and at the peak, 80% of slave ownership was Jewish, and almost 100% of ships were Jew owned. And the emancipation proclamation was not a south wide thing - it was exclusive to the few dozen counties and parishes where the union knew the Confederacy had a presence
>>533621038no, the south fought to try and preserve an outdated system that was basically feudalism. the rich southerners fought mainly out of their own sense of pride while the poor southerners fought to maintain their positions above black people
>>533621293the whole, jews owned all the slaves thing is completely made up. and when you say "1% of the population owned slaves" that doesnt mean that theres barely any slaves, just a few people owned almost all of them. almost half the population of humans in the south before the war started were slaves
>>533620209drones will be obsolete in the next war which will be fought with electromagnetic rays tuned to the genetic aura of the enemy race. one press of a button and every nigger, and only niggers, within 50 miles instantly drops dead. clone troop cyborgs birthed out of maturation vats ready to charge into battle with genetic memories gifted from our most elite soldiers and immune to emp's that will take out drones. interplanetary warfare for control of the he3 supply lines. perhaps breakaway factions which simply depart earth to unknown destinations to escape war.
>>533621293So how did Jews do that, were Anglos ever in control of America
>>533621520>electromagnetic rays tuned to the genetic aura of the enemy race.Shut the fuck up
>>533619944That war was over slaveryWhat are you proposing the next one will be over? Capitalism? Taxes?I dont think theres anything like slavery. Current culture war is too retarded
>>533619944If the framers of the constitution explicitly said that once you entered the new union you couldn’t leave, the constitution wouldn’t have ever been ratified.The framers did not believe that the constitution would compel all future generations of Americans until the end of time to stay in the union. The idea of forcing a people into a political union they don’t want is political slavery. The New England and mid Atlantic states had discussed leaving the union before the southern states. The constitution guarantees a Republican form of government and that means that the people in the states are ultimately sovereign. A sovereign people have the authority to make decisions concerning political pacts. The ratifying conventions of NY, RI and VA all mention the right to resume the powers granted to the federal govt whenever they deem necessary. The Treaty of Paris ended the war for independence and recognized the sovereignty of the the 13 states.The bill of rights was added to the constitution after ratification in order to satisfy Americans who felt the new federal govt could become a tyranny. The convention of 1787 discussed the possibility of the sovereignty of the states being annihilated and the proponents of the new national govt said that would not happen. All of this to say that the right to secede or declare independence from the federal government belongs to the people in their respective states. If this right were clearly acknowledged by all Americans perhaps we would have a union that worked for everyone instead of just wealthy Jews and their shabbos goyim.
>>533621520You are the dumbest person on pol ive seen in a few yearsYou should kill yourselfYour cope is too insane. You have already lost a thousand times over. You will be ground to dust and snorted by nigger troons for eternity
>>533621679Shouldn't have attacked fort sumter retardYou probably could've seceded if you didnt chimp out
>>533619944>calls us mutts>scared of a civil waraww, johnny foreigner's nervous that his gravy train is about to go off the rails.
>lol
>>533621635>That war was over slaveryIt wasn't.If it was, it would mean that the average slaveless Southerner was hell bent on defending slave owners, like going to war for Musk and Thiel, while Northerners were so concerned about human rights they were willing to die for it but a few years later they slaughtered all Injuns.Total fairy tale.
>>533621791I’m not a southerner you government schooled retarded clown faggot. Lincoln should’ve redrew the troops at the fort since it was on sovereign territory that left the union.
>>533621791Fort Sumter was an invading military force that fired on free trade ships passing by.am yisrael chazir am yisrael met
>>533622040Only roughly 1% of all Americans owned slaves. That always gets conveniently left out whenever anyone brings up "The war was over slavery"
>start deadliest war in american history>lose>claim youre going to "rise again" then never do another important thing>still extremely proud of yourselves for no reasonwhy are southerners like this?
>>5336222041% of americans owning slaves doesnt mean that there were hardly any slaves in america. there were about 4 million slaves in the south before the war, almost half the southern population. so again, I dont get what point is trying to be made over the 1% owning slaves thing
>>533619944>Is it really that absurd to say this sort of shit can't happen again?Both the north and the south were deeply patriotic. The left isn’t going to fight and die for a country they hate. They’re just going to bitch and moan because they’re overgrown children.
Remember when Dixiefags passed a law legalizing the capture of runaway slaves? Imagine being so obsessed with blacks that you pay people to bring them back to your house after they escape.
>>533619944The American Civil War was not about slavery. About 1% of white southerners owned slaves, and slave owners were rich enough to pay someone to fight in their stead (or would send one of their own slaves). Some slave owners did serve as officers in the confederate army though- military service was still considered aristocratic in that era.
>>533621293>80% of slave ownership was Jewish, and almost 100% of ships were Jew ownedBullshit
>>533619944they didn't have glowniggers back then. glowniggers keep americans safe from themselves.
I say accelerate this shit because I want to collect purple and green scalps. Leftists faggots need to hang and be put in their place so we can heal. It's all fat brown dykes, old women with 10 cats, and pseudointellectual youngfags that know nothing about the real world. I'd rather settle the disputes with violence because I'm really not scared of their brown retards.
>>533620650>The war itself was also ignited over resistance to central banking powers.no it was about slavery. not because southern planters were just so racist and they wanted to whip niggers forever, it was because they wanted to defend their economic position that was 100% reliant on slavery.as always, economics and material reality drive politics but in this case slavery was the economic system being defended by the instigators of the civil war
>>533622564If It wasnt about slavery, then why did all the states with the most slaves secede? you really think the biggest war in american history was just over taxes and states rights? It was overwhelming fought over the issue of slavery
>>533622564>Dixieniggers paid black people to shoot their white brothers so Moshe Steinberg the plantation owner could bring even more "human capital" to AmericaHard to conjure up a more depressing scenario. Kikefederates never truly got what they deserved.>>533622639Hello rabbi.
>>533621293>1% of the population*population of the entire united states in 1860its a little bit disingenuous to count new yorkers and ohioans when looking at slave ownership rates. hell, its even a bit dirty to count the population of the inland upper south since slavery was much less central to their economies than it was for the coastal areas or the deep south
>>533620007but i keep hearing the jews were the plantation owners, and they had the jew Judah Philip Benjamin... wait. is it a case of the jews inside both sides starting shit with each other just to destroy the nation?
>>533622779Provide a source for your statement
the revolutionary war was the first civil war you ignorant mutt
The question is “do sovereign states have the right to leave the federal union?” The answer is yes. If we respected this right, we could be done with Jewish wars in the Middle East and mass migration and a whole host of other poisonous policies.
>>533622893you only have the "right" to leave the union if you win, which the south did not. and if they had won America would largely be 50 different irrelevant countries today instead of 1 super powerful country
>>533622878A civil war is a fight over the central control of a government you interloping jeet
>>533622981>instead of 1 super powerful country controlled by Jews. FTFY, lobotomite
>>533619944Last hope for muttmerica... game over
>>533622810Common sense should suffice, but I'll take the b8 just for (You): https://timayenis.substack.com/p/jews-and-the-atlantic-slave-trade-bd1Now, let's think about this. Why would whites risk their lives sailing across the ocean to bring literal boatloads of Africans to America if they hated them so much?
>>533623089enjoy complaining in vain about jews for the rest of your life. you're never going to beat them!
>>533622808>Benjaminthey put a fucking jew on their paper money... that's pretty much all you need to know that we've been lied to about everything.
>>533622690I honestly think a lot of the "it wasn't about slavery!" is due to people being taught that "it was about slavery" means the south rebelled because they just wanted to be racist, nothing deeper than their hatred of black peopleif that's how you understand "the civil war was fought over slavery" then you're actually right. it wasn't fought because the north wanted to put an end to southern planters being mean to the black people. yes some northern abolitionists fought for that reason but there's also a reason it took 3 years for the federal government to make it explicitly about slavery, as it became obvious they were heavily winning it was about slavery in the sense that northern industrialists saw that slave economies were backwards and not competitive, and didn't want vast swathes of the US to be occupied by useless subsistence economies on the one hand. on the other, the southern planters knew that they got to live it up at the top of a highly stratified slave society and were willing to fight tooth and nail to protect that status. their personal material interest was to suppress industrial development wherever possible to keep the gravy train going
>>533620591The emancipation proclamation was literally a recruitment tool for the Union during the war
>>533623158Im not baiting. This says that jews owned slaves. And that a large number of jews owned slaves. But it does not say that 80% of slaves were owned by jews or that they had nearly total ownership of the slave shipsWhats the point in lying anon?
>>533622338>1% of americans owning slaves doesnt mean that there were hardly any slaves in america.The point is why would 99% of people go to war for the interest of 1%, the number of slaves in that regard is irrelevant.It wasn't over slavery.
>>533623158>Thus, at a minimum, well over 20% of all US slave owners were jews, despite being statistically insignificant 0.7% of the population at the time. The actual percentage was likely much higher.I agree that jews are evil and that in any evil enterprise, you will find jews vastly overrepresented. But the claim that jews owned all the slaves and the majority of slave ships is bullshit.
>>533620591Virtually no one had slaves you stupid faggot.
>>533619944>rapidly escalating into sudden violenceNo, there were many years of increasing direct violence, and I don't mean lone psychos taking pot shots like we get. Bloody kansas, john brown, slave raiders. It took over 50 years of "the slavery debate" before it boiled over.
>>533623604I want slaves to shell my peanuts and peel my grapes
>>533623172am yisrael chazir am yisrael metignoring this post will get your mother sent to the vet
>>533623455When did I say that 80% of slaves were owned by Jews? Or that they owned nearly every ship? That was gRmj14wx, not me. See the colored IDs on each post? That indicates who says what.>>533623554>I agree that jews are evil and that in any evil enterprise, you will find jews vastly overrepresentedI'm glad I didn't have to spell that out for you. I thought you were casting doubt on the fact that we have Jews to thank for the scourge of slavery in this country.
>>533620007>Civil war is a lie and was never about freeing slaves. It was about southern farmers and plantation owners not wanting to pay taxes to the yanks (probably Jews) in the north.Largely correct, but also false.If you want to know the cause of the Civil War, just read Georgia's Secession ordinance.https://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_geosec.aspOr for that matter, read John C. Calhoun's 1850 speech to Congress.https://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2001/11/03/john-c-calhoun-on-the-clay-compromise-measures-1850/Thirdly, I would go with James Buchanan's last State of the Union.https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/fourth-annual-message-congress-the-state-the-unionThe nice thing about the Georgia document is that it also gives insight into general political dynamics that still exist.Other good reads, the Lord Acton/Robert E. Lee Correspondence.https://archive.lewrockwell.com/orig3/acton-lee.html
>>533620007>>533624279When you're done with all of that, you should read Lysander Spooner: No Treason. Which is not only a treatise on the American Civil War, but on the entire world.https://praxeology.net/LS-NT-6.htm
>>533623524almost all wars are fought over issues that really only effect the top 1%. the civil war wasnt any different
>>533622878>the revolutionary war was the first civil war you ignorant muttBoth wars were just wars of independence. A civil war is when multiple factions fight for control of the same territory. We call it the Civil War because we don't want to call it the War for Southern Independence(or as Southerners call it, the War of Northern Aggression).
>>533622878wtf
>>533624588Explain to me how did reason for WW2, Germany vs SSSR part, affect only top 1% of Soviets.
>>533622893>The question is “do sovereign states have the right to leave the federal union?” The answer is yes.That was Jefferson's theory. Hamilton disagreed with him. But it wasn't tested until 1861-1865. And finally decided in Texas v. White.With that said, the states were not sovereign, and independence is not limited to sovereign states anyway(see Declaration of Independence).Regardless, arguing about the legality of independence is retarded.
>>533623765>That was gRmj14wxYou called me a rabbi when I told him those stats were wrong, so what exactly were you objecting to?>>533623765The jews were not solely responsible for slavery in the US
>>533624882the wars obviously affect everyone. but the reasons why they are being started dont. there was no actual reason why the german and russian people needed to invade poland, thats just what their governments wanted to do.
Who gives a shit about any of this? Fuck jews and fuck niggers
>>533624963>there was no actual reason why the german and russian people needed to invade polandI mean, this is technically false. Poland was to Germany what Ukraine is to Russia.
>>533621070Serbia and Crotia. lmao who gives a shit about your people? You don't account for any more than an African bushmen lmao
>>533625178>Poland was to Germany what Ukraine is to Russiaa territory you want back but end up in a huge, losing war over thats completely not worth it? youre right, it is the same
>>533624963I didn't ask thatI asked how does Germany's reason to attack SSSR affect only 1% of Russians>What their governments wanted to doThe government makes decisions because that's what governments doHow does the creation of Lebensraum only affect top 1% of German population.
>>533625315No, a bunch of belligerent retards picking a fight over land where everyone hates them because they're paid off by kikes in Britain.Instead of using Poland as your example, you should have mentioned Operation Barbarossa. Fucking moron.
>>533625437That's like a Trump Xeet
>>533620007No it was the north not wanting to pay for cotton. Don’t turn it around by saying it was the south who refused tax increase. Why was it taxed as punishment? I hate the norf they putta they nose up. No matter what continent.
>>533622810>Moshe Abraham Slaves and Ships inc. Leaves little room for doubt Jew
>>533621515>Completely made upEvIdeNcE?
>>533622779>Evidence???>Show us signs and wonders or else!!Jews are on cross generational repeat with their woman arguments
>>533619944Dumpy gathered 800 generals and lectured them on getting ready to kill Americans
>>533619944Yea, no. There is going to be no civil war. The elites can't afford to have their cash cow destroy itself.
>>533619944America will be a mixture of Brazil and South Africa. White boys will be hunted for sport and not fight back. Start your own ethno-cult and Oriana with vertical agriculture and synthetic material manufacturing so you don't have to rely on foreign inputs, if you care. Otherwise enjoy big black cock.
>>533630788show flag, lard golem
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