Starting from the 60s, dad worked as a salesmen, he had a nice house and wife staying home with the kids building community with other moms in the area. Neighbourhood parties, nice cars, you could pick yourself up by your bootstraps. No education needed.White peoples where more cohesive back then, there was Christianity, weather you believed it or not it helped white people stay together more.Was the usa at this time the best place in the world?
The Matrix was set in the 90's for a reason.
It was an anomaly built on the back of a massive war and tons of men being killed or rendered useless.
>>533627880I'd say 45 to 65 when Civil Rights movement took off and niggers started wrecking shit and crime went up considerebly along with the immigration, worsening ecominc conditions and gradual moral decay.
>>533627880The 1400s was pretty based.>work 2 hours a week>no faggotry>Jews had to wear a special hat so you could identify them>if your wife pissed you off you could have her executed>nogs where still in Africa, even if Netflix says different
>>533627880yes
>>533627986This is a good point, the ww2 stealing gold from germans and the vietnam sacrifice.Cant we have the same scenario’s without the mass sacrifice of young men?
>>533627984>uuuggghhh noooo my living wage allows me to have a home computer, a clubbing fund, and my own apartment in a large city>skinny leather goth women won't leave me alone>i can't take it anymore!!!!!!neo would've just been homeless in the 2020s watching agent smith create brown people in front of him
>>533627880Everyone was on legal meth and cocaine and everyone was happy
>>533628110Agent sukhdeep would have given neo foodpoisoning
>>533628012plowing fields, sowing wheat, cutting stalks, flailing grain all by hand, twelve plus hours a day, and then dying of cholera because your neighbor shit into the river doesn't sound all that fun. Yeah, after the harvest it was probably cool until the first frost, then it fucking sucked. Meanwhile, the king you tithed twenty percent of your grain to is selling his kingdom to semitic financiers so he can send you and your cousins off to fight some dudes a few kilometers over.
>>533627880It depends what you value. It was a good time, and surpassed all others materially.But I think a century earlier would have been a superior culture and society in most ways.Look at those old neighborhoods in American cities full of big houses built in the 1800s. Most have fallen into ghettos. But when these neighborhoods were nice I think they represented that apex of human civilization. That world was truly great. Let's say post civil war America to ww1. It was poorer than 20th century America but more moral, cohesive, and cultured.
>>533628254pre-civil war seemed pretty kino. thoreau worked as a day laborer for 42 days and had enough money to build his own cabin and live in it for two years.
>>533628254I dont know much about 1800 america, when where the western times? Maybe those where awesome too? Exploring the usa, just hunting animals to feed yourself, drink from the mountain streams. Only the indians where terrible probably.
>>533628254victorian era, decently cultured but not overly so. you had tea, peppers, spices out the ass, but almost no foreigners. there were still standards and classes to keep the riffraff in line. people dressed well, and if you hated society you could walk out into the woods to slowly attrit to the forces of nature and nobody gave a shit.
>boomer hellnah
Don't pretend that you made this thread for any other reason.
Its true that it was materialism, but you could live without all those things really well. Save money, buy some propertyTake picrel for instance, this guy prbably worked part time 2 day a week as a toilet cleaner and has this house
>>533628326Can't argue with that. The only complaint would be lower technological/ material standards. But was probably an even better culture than the 19th century.>>533628347Wild west was first half of the 1800s, roughly. Check out Mark Twain's 'Roughing It' if you want to read a firsthand account, I just finished it and it was great. >>533628358Yes, this was great too I'm sure. Pride and Prejudice society was very moral and sane.
>>533628533Im not sure if thats a fat bump or some sort of half boner. But in the 60s, you could still have unapologetic boners in public.
>>533628575Yes that is a happy family. The father would even take the time to show his son how to scrub shit from the public toilets. In those days, your job came directly from your father and stayed in the family. The shitscrubbers weren't the richest family, but they sure kept their own toilets clean.
>>533628533Exactly
>>533627880No, but it was nice because the future was secured for people who lived, and it was thanks unironically to socialism and high taxes on the wealthy.
>>533627880Peak of the boom-bust cycle. What do you want us to do about it? We're too stupid to do anything except pave over everything and make endless product. If there were more continents to colonize, we could boom forever. But there isn't, and we already industrialized everything, and took up every available corner of the planet. Ha-ha. Deal with it, loser.
>>533627880But then you watch Taxi driver and see that the average wagie was living like a third world poor fag that he was.
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>>533628781Being poor is based though. Lots of sixteen year old whores loitering outside waiting to be picked up by some stranger old enough to be their dad, because their own dad was a raging alcoholic who drank away the grocery money. You don't see that kind of thing in rich, proper neighborhoods. In fact, the more proper your neighborhood is, the more obligations that you had. Eventually, you're just expected to pay for your own migrant replacement and report any 16 year old whores to the authorities. That's what "proper, upper class" people do, which is totally gay. Why even live.
>>533627880No, that's an illusion created mostly by boomer nostalgia for their childhood combined with extremely unrealistic media depictions of life in that era. Hollywood movies were still subject to Hays Code censorship until 1968, and TV shows from that era were even more restricted in what they were allowed to show.The iconic 1950s post war suburban American lifestyle was extremely idealized, and even then only a small subset of well-off upper middle class White professional class Americans ever lived anything like the families depicted on most TV shows of the era.And after that, the 1970s and early '80s were terrible and just as bad or worse than the current period by almost every metric. Objectively, ~1989-2000 was peak Pax Americana. Gen X faggots will whine and claim that it sucked, but that's because they are all whiny slacker faggots who would complain about anything. If you look at the economy, quality of life, standard of living, technological development, crime rates, geopolitical peace and stability, etc, the 1990s were the best decade in American history.
>>533628654> The shitscrubbers weren't the richest family, but they sure kept their own toilets clean.They would, and they did.
>>533628963Why does everyone use pax-“insert country” these days all of a sudden?Is it all from the chinese youtube fella?Before that dude nobody said it
>>533628963But it could be true, the tv made it look great. We know who owns the media, so the things we see must be bad for us.
>>533627880>Was the usa at this time the best place in the world?Yes and the proof is that the best music in human history was written in the west, mainly the USA, during this time period. The only counterargument is that Aristocratic Europe, mainly Germany and Austria and to a lesser extent England, had equally great music during the late 1600s through the early 1800s. But even then, the conditions were the same. European Aristocracy produced amazing works of art in that time period because there was tremendous wealth, and the children of elites and nobles were able to devote their lives and talents to creating beautiful art instead of toiling away in the fields or at some pointless job. Of course, this was built on the backs of men who toiled, and people who adventured to foreign lands, but the end result was the same. Out of tremendous wealth, came tremendous art. But that was really just limited to aristocrats. Pianos were expensive back then, and a normal family, even if they could play music, couldn't really afford good instruments. The industrial revolution and American exceptionalism changed that. By the 1950s and 1960s it was super easy to live for cheap and to buy mass produced musical instruments that sounded great. The electric guitar was invented in the 30s and began being mass produced in the 1950s. It was brand new. In the 1960s, you could be a hippie, quit your job, move to San Francisco, rent a Victorian Mansion in the city for $100 a month, take LSD for free or dirt cheap, and just create art all day every day. That's how it was from like 1964 to 1969 before the area got super popular. The Grateful Dead literally rented a house on Ashbury street for $100 per month. Between the band members and their gfs they had like 10 people living there at any given time. That meant each resident needed to come up with $10 per month to live in the most artistically creative place on earth at the time. Min wage was $1.25/hr
>>533630464One 8 hour workday at minimum wage was all you needed for 1 month's rent in a San Francisco neighborhood with beautiful parks and 60-80 year old houses from the Victorian era. That's all you needed for a month in an artistically charged neighborhood with thousands of other young, mostly white, people (SF was 92% white, 5% black, 2% asian, and 1% latino - this was considered an extremely vibrantly diverse city in 1965, and fodder for the creative process). Free love was a concept then, perhaps pushed by nefarious interests, but it was real. You could literally be a nerdy skinny dude and go up to basically any woman there and simply ask if she wanted to go have sex and then she'd go have sex with youThings were so good and life was so incredibly easy that most of these hippies didn't even see the point of working. Having a job was just something you did if you wanted to sell your soul and become rich. If you just wanted to live in San Francisco and make art with your friends all you needed to do was random odd jobs to come up with like literally 5 or 10 dollars for the month. If your music was any good, your band could get booked to play local shows which would cover the cost of living for all band members without having to work. If you weren't good at art, you could just sell marijuana or other drugs to like a small group of 15-30 people and have enough money to pay for anything you need and establish significant savings. Is it any wonder that people growing up in such an easy time were able to devote most of their lives to artistic pursuits?Fwiw, the house that the grateful Dead rented for $100/month in the late 1960s has a Zillow estimate of nearly $3 million today. The Zillow estimated rent today is $8000 per month and if you bought it and paid a mortgage would be $15,000 per month. The cost to rent the house has gone up by 80x from 100/month to 8,000/month. It's a nearly 4,000 square foot house built in 1908.
>>533628533>Thinking that old mans gut is his fat dick.
>>533628533My thoughts exactly
I think so yes. I grew up in the 80's and it seemed we had everything, great movies good music from then ant the previous decades, beginnings of home pc use and video games taking off etc al. 60's, 70's, 80 and 90's were literally an era probably never to be seen again. It all ended with 9/11.
>>533627998Niggers were always wrecking things anon. Segregation much like women's suffrage was for a good damn reason.
Yes
>>533630464>>533630587that same ratio of "8 hours of work for one month's rent" still exists.min wage in many US cities in $20 now, rent in many countries is $160 a month or less. Goy away in the US for a couple months, fuck off to a different country for a few years, then come back and do it again.
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>>533628106>Cant we have the same scenario’s without the mass sacrifice of young men?>>533630781>It all ended with 9/11.I used to think this, but I think that's just how we process things now. It's strange, most people collectively believe the 60s and 70s were better than the 2000s and 2010s, and yet, over 50,000 American men died in a war halfway around the world that was relatively pointless. And many of them were drafted. In the modern era, barely 10% of that many Americans died in the war on Terror, and all of them were volunteers, none were forced. And yet everyone thinks the modern situation was even worse. If you were an American teenager, a baby boomer, in the 60s and 70s, you likely personally knew at least one or two people who died in Vietnam. If you didn't know anyone who died, you knew people who went there and then came back mentally fucked in the head and were never the same again. Maybe it was just so good that boomers were able to look past all of that, but despite the economic good times and the good music, art, and technological development, there was a dark undercurrent to society that kept increasing. Today we live in a time when that undercurrent has subsumed everything
>>533631759>the figures—where they are not hidden by politiciansSo the henry kissinger type jews where influencing politicians to cover up these problems back then?
>>533632197Yea, crazy if you think about draft to fight a war not bordering your own country.Litteral sacrifice. The ukranian vans where roaming the american streets back then.And even the urkainian draft is bullshit. Nobody wants to die in some trench for a allready determined outcome, a new border to be drawn from which society starts over without millions of young men(since they have died in the trenches)How convienent for the rich pedo billionaire class
