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My first time posting on 4chan ever. As a 19 year old white male in America, I can see that our society as we know it is collapsing. what do we actually do? Seriously.

I see no point in any of this. Is the world seriously with a straight face telling me that I have to work for 40 fucking years so I can barely retire at 65, and who knows if there will even be a world in 2070? What if the world is so dystopian and total garbage that I don’t even want to continue?

Everything I see on the internet I just assume is nonstop AI slop and botted dead internet theory. The technology is so advanced these days that I don’t trust any footage posted online. It makes me feel like nothing more than a demographic being harvested for their data, all it is is data data data, all we’re good for, just statistics for more successful advertising. The government is here, on this site, they’re everywhere, saving these threads and every IP’s scroll in huge data banks that are run through AI predictive models determining who is a likely threat to the new world order.

I’m done. That what I'm here to say. I’m fucking done man. Everyone here, I don’t care if you’re an American, European, Indian, Russian, even fucking Jewish, we got dealt horrible hands. We were born in the biggest transitioning period in human history. Our evolution is so out of wack that our bodies have no idea how to react to these conditions. People are going genuinely fucking nuts here.

This world as it is today was never meant to last. It’s designed to suck out as much wealth as possible and enslave us for the foreseeable future. Our species is just smart enough to develop this disgusting apocalyptic technology but too fucking stupid to treat eachother with respect. Everyone hates eachother, and it’s really not our fault. Like I said, we were dealt a bad hand. Everyone born after 1900 has been spawn camped and indoctrinated into this horrible cycle.

Stay safe out there everyone. Good luck.
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>>533631721
I look like that and say that
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>>533631721
Easy. You remember your algorithm is feeding you what you already consume. Yes some things are shitty, some are getting better. It's not a straight line to the top. Focus on yourself and your close ones, ready philosophy, workout, pick up hobbies, socialize, etc.

For every "omg our women our whores" thread here there are thousands of women that have no idea what you're talking about and are looking for just a normal guy. For every "New World Order" conspiracy there are dozens of politicians with absolutely no plan. None. It might be scarier to admit which is why most opt out for crazy concpiracies.

In practice? I think democracy needs to be improved. Voting is not a right, it's a skill. Only people educated in a specific subject matter should vote on said matter. Only people with at least 110 IQ should vote. Old people should not vote same as children don't vote. Georgism should be integrated. I can go on.
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Normal adult life is struggling through cost of living, suitable living arrangements, traffic, delays, overcrowding, high prices relative to income, immigrants, outsourced jobs, bureaucratic processes. The only way to change things is politically, and that needs lots of support. Forming that support is hard because "the system" can easily remove such content from any of its social platforms. or shadowban accounts. or investigate them and apply bureaucratic pressure
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>>533631721
>what do we actually do?
It's an age old question and either no one has an answer yet because the system would be overturned by now if someone did, or maybe it's because the answer whether large scale or small is a quieter, less flashy one right now.

>I see no point in any of this. Is the world seriously with a straight face telling me that I have to work for 40 fucking years so I can barely retire at 65, and who knows if there will even be a world in 2070?
Worse, the world is telling you to work 55 hours a week including on Saturdays forever and still barely afford food and rent the entire way there.
>What if the world is so dystopian and total garbage that I don’t even want to continue?
A lot of people are mulling over that question right now and it's why the birthrates globally are also crashing to zero.
No you're not wrong one bit about modern technology especially the Internet which has become nothing bit a giant addicting noise box intentionally or not set up to waste everyone's time, suck up your attention, and drain you of your emotional energy.
This whole concept is something I call the attention wars and the attention wars are seriously ramping up right now and it's the NWO/ZOG/Rothschilds/Kikes last hail Mary play is hopping they can just distract everyone enough and make defiance seem impossible enough to skirt away unpunished (it's too late for unnoticed).

Trust me you wish you were done, but the truth is you're probably just getting started whether you want to or not. (You can try to kill yourself if you want, I almost did at your age too but there's more to life than what you're being handed right now too just need to take it yourself).
We have been dealt horrible hands in life, if you keep on playing life inside their stupid sandbox and you don't leave Plato's cave.
So back to your actual question:
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>>533633455
>I can go on.
Yeah, you forgot to add
>digging a giant hole and filling it with fire then throwing all Jews into it
I think this will solve most of the problems
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>>533631876
We know. We can see your flag.
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>>533633455
>the reason your world looks grim is your own responsibility.
do you know where you're posting rn
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>>533631721
You have to go back.
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>>533631721
>My first time posting on 4chan ever
Did you lurk 2 years?
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>>533631721
>I have to work for 40 fucking years so I can barely retire at 65
Which is why you need to find something you actually like doing AND has demand for it AND cannot be done by ai AND can be done by you starting your own business rather than working for someone else. This is what you have to find out for yourselves. Take you time, you will get there. You can do it, because why the way you write I can already tell you are blessed with an above average intelligence. Become your own boss and provide a service or produce goods people actually are willing to pay for and you don't mind producing for them. This will get you ahead to alsmost everybody else. And should you become succesful, don't let a woman take it away from you. Chase excellence, the women will follow by themselves.
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>>533631721

Skill issue
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>>533631721
The world has always sucked. Why do people work until old age and retire? Because their DNA forces them to. It's harder to kill yourself than it is to survive. You will understand this someday when you get old and have to make a decision.

Do i wage slave or do i die? Most people choose to wage slave.
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>>533631721
>I don't know how to get out of my echo chamber.
Too bad for you OP. You are dimwitted and dumb and stupid and you should know your place as such.
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>>533631721
We "remove" the richest man from society (talking equity, not cash on hand) and repeat until material conditions improve. Then we do the trump, and release the mario party from prison.
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>>533634957
Dude, you’re from Japan. Most people would call you a slur right now but I genuinely feel bad for you man. Your country is imploding with low birth rates and the rat race culture. The Hikikomori lifestyle has been seeping into America now for the last decade and post-capitalism will destroy America like it is currently destroying Japan.

Take care of yourself brother. I really mean it.
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>>533631721
Congratulations OP, for the first day of the next 2 decades shit posting journey!
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>>533634344
>What do we actually do?
Firstly stop playing by their rules that they established, they're limiting you, they're not enforced by anyone ultimately except yourself and the hivemind (barely), and they're in place specifically to prevent too form up starting them and usurping them as a superior leader/elite/noble.
2nd get the fuck off the Internet almost entirely except for business communications and government admin shit maybe. You already inherently know the Internet in its modern form is here to just waste your attention and generate noise not clarity. The reveal that literally entire swaths of it are poisoned by Epstein's bullshit (indeed like/satanic NWO pedo/cannibal elites who want to kill you) specifically through Epstein being responsible for instance:
>Micro transactions in videogames
>Bill Gates's bullshit being enabled
>/pol/ itself
Should have been your alarm going off in February that it's time to leave this place, leave YouTube, and stop interacting through the demonic egeregore of the "algorithm". The world becomes a lot quieter and more peaceful once you ace the Internet and it was the best thing I've done this year (I'm only here right now because I've been stuck the whole last week recovering from a toncilicomy for the last week and there's nothing to do but sleep, browse a bit, and think so a read through the catalog has returned for nowz but not does recovery suck at age 29). No you're not going to miss any sort of key vital information or any diamond knowledge by not doom scrolling anymore the situation is still fucked we're still on the edge of the 4th turning crisis and every other major transformation coming along.
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>>533634871
I’ve known 4chan was a thing for the last few years but only really started lurking the last couple months. Had a couple friends in high school who were big into it, one of them had an album on their phone with like 6,000 images about kikes, definitely from /pol now that I’ve been in it for a while lmao.
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>>533636487
Without the base noise and friction of the Internet bombarding you all day you'll notice your awareness, curiosity, risk taking, and novelty will return to its baseline, use this as you please and arrive to the real world where you should follow your intuition and instincts and imprint onto it as you like. I can't answer this for you but:
what do you really want do to in your time in general? (If money and resources wasn't an issue what are you doing?)
I prefer to spend time in nature, doing physical activities, foraging, hunting/fishing, exploring, writing, collecting weird shit, creating things, and doing that with others especially my wife (who I met on /x/ btw, stop trying to meet chicks on tinder and start meeting them here before you bounce if you're not cold approaching)
And to do more of that I've rearranged my life into jobs I currently have that allow an insane amount of free time and time flexibility for relatively easy work (black car driver, financial advisor, consultant) and I've acquired my own business that doesn't require me to actively run ground operations that'll allow me to reduce and phase out my hours entirely so I can be financially independent and time independent. This lifestyle has allowed me to spend time with the people I love do activities I genuinely enjoy and increasingly helping out others too, it can be done to just have to get off the set path the world has imposed on you by default.
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>>533634344
Now on the societal large scale I'm already cooking up my own things: a real new way forward, a new school of philosophy for our age and the next century, I've gotten involved and I've met and made likeminded friends (and we've been doing pretty good lately, we're getting there and we're happy with our thing and our projects so far, we all help each other out where we can and it's nice, it's how life is meant to be lived).
On your end you're at a weird time, you're likely in college, possibly in the workforce or military, possibly bumming around or stuck in retail hell. I would do what you can (and again this becomes easier when you axe the Internet noise and start winning the attention wars) and start getting involved somewhere irl, most groups are related to either:
>Something kinda political involving Internet celebs where the e-celeb is some unimpressive faggot and half the people there are fanboys but the real power move is to ignore Internet losers and use the event to meet likeminded people to befriend or work with locally frequently.
>Burnt out institutions from days of yore, think your Knights of Columbus, the Rotary, American Legion, the Elk's Lodge, your city/regions young Republican club or Democrat club (fuck both of them but they're great places to infiltrate and siphon resources and people who also hate them) or an adults sports league or professional league
Like cold approaching women or marketing your conversion ratio is gonna suck but say you pool in 1 new friend, business partner, connection, or associate from each thing you do per x events or months that's some seriously insane momentum.
With a community you're able to pool together and make bigger moves together covering each other bases which forms the beginning of your own institutions which helps you and your community out and helps you gain more influence in society.
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>>533636858
If we all start building our own communities, building our own institutions, and working together towards common goals we all share we will create lives that ultimately replace the disgusting gunked up machine we're all so sick of. They're hoping we all just never do anything and don't show up to life because if we all just don't really leave the house and just "rot" on the Internet all day we're giving up and by proxy handing them an automatic win by concession. We're better than this, we're better than them and their bullshit underhanded evil ways, and I think we're going to win this so long as we dial in, show up, and keep being persistent.

Don't give up OP, they fucked up the world on purpose to sabatoge everyone but we're not letting them get away with it and we're building a new better world without their bullshit that'll be better for everyone. Just don't just don't give up op, don't lose hope, and don't stop loving. Trust me it'll get better you just got to start taking the wheel to your life at the helm and you'll become more happy and at ease like it's actually supposed to be like, just don't give up
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>>533631721
>we got dealt horrible hands. We were born in the biggest transitioning period
I see it as opportunity to witness the most interesting times;
and with enough ants you can derail train
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>>533637073
Thank you for such a detailed response man. I was in college for a year and then I dropped out. It didn’t make sense to me and it felt like I was just a part of the machine, like I was fulfilling a task that was given to me. Something I want to do in the future is move to Alaska (I’m in California) and become self sufficient on 40 acres, grow my own food in a greenhouse, raise chickens, the whole thing. My grandparents lived on a farm so I know a little bit about how it works and I’d like to learn survival skills and emergency medicine as well.

I’ve been thinking about WHY I want to do these things and it’s because I crave something different. Something nobody has told me to do before. I feel like since I was born, me and everyone around me has had their life planned out since they were a little kid and that bothers me to my core. It dehumanizes us. Reduces us to nothing but a job.

That’s all I have to say about that. Thank you for your heartfelt response man, you sound like a great guy. I think about ending it all the time. It only takes 2 pipes to make a shotgun. But what can you do? Just try to keep pushing on I guess. When shit hits the fan I’ll try to get the hell out of here.
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>>533633455
algorithms are jewish
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>>533633455
>your algorithm is feeding you what you already consume
I've got to counter that with experience.
Perhaps a few years ago it did.
Now? I get more uninteresting and unrelated shit than ever before.
Youtube's now recommending Twilight. Never saw the show, never clicked a related video, never even watched vampire content of any kind through youtube, yet it decided that this and GoT and videos about VFX and people's "hi guys if you see this I'm dead" videos are exactly what align with my interests.
Seemingly the only thing unaffected by this technical intelligence schizophrenia is the automated music playlist feature Mixes. Nothing but based 70s and 80s music with the odd 90s classic here and there.

No rabbi, the system's changing.
Even the clickbait titles don't get clicks anymore.
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>>533631721
Im twenty years older than you and believe me when I say that it used to be much worse. Right now we are living through the death throes of the old regime. You have access to infinitely more information than we did then. You have access to tools we could only have dreamed of. The world (both on and offline) is full of doomers who will never achieve anything in their lives. I’ve always been relentlessly optimistic and take advantage of every new opportunity technology affords. I’m American. My dad made $12/hr driving a forklift and got two weeks of vacation per year, whereas I have my own business and get to live near the Mediterranean.

Every era has its own unique mix of good and bad. But don’t let the bad parts prevent you from taking advantage of the good parts.
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>>533634910
I should become a drug dealer. Got it. Thank you dutchbro
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>>533631721
vote someone more radical than trump. someone who actually wants to fix problems and is not a 80 years old boomer
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cringe reddit tourist post

>we're all in this together :DDD

no we are fucking not. there is a certain epstein and jew class actively trying to screw you over and quietly enslave you
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>>533631721
First off, drop the hyperbole. You need a sober assessment of where you stand to find a path forward.
>our society as we know it is collapsing.
Nothing is collapsing. The Unites States will still be here in 2100. What is, is transformation. Things are changing, yes, and moving fast.
>a world in 2070?
Unless there is a full exchange of nuclear weapons between Russia and America, the world will still be here.
>What if the world is so dystopian and total garbage that I don’t even want to continue?
Stop caring about the wider world. It's not your problem.
>A.I.
Find resilient employment. Not everything will be replaced by A.I.
Otherwise, and this has been a long time coming, you need to gain a firm grasp on how to use statistics, and how to evaluate sources. Walter Cronkite was biased, and never told the whole story, or even the most key aspects of any given story. Your grandparents just nodded their heads and chanted "That's how it is!" They should have spent more time in the library doing their own research and thinking. Today, we have dozens of A.I. outfits trying to be your Walter Cronkite, and will be if you don't learn how to learn.
>Government surveillance.
Always been a thing, but it's good to be aware of it. You don't have to live in paranoia, but you do want to familiarize yourself with the technology that resists it, and make some use of it.
>Everything is unfair and fucked up!
Always has been. Nothing has changed in that respect. Even when the ethnic mix was proper and reasonably monolithic, greater white society was never on your side.
A few bits of advise. Move. Find an area with an expanding economy, is resistant to climate change, with low or manageable levels of crime, and not too much ethnic diversity. Same thing the good people in the dust bowl era were trying to do. Now you. It can be done.
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>>533638557.
>I should become a drug dealer.
Lmfao, well, maybe you should. Drugs are illegal in most countries but those same countries allow alcohol and tobacco. Make it make sense. Fact is though that generally speaking, intelligent criminals are inventive and able to take advantage of market demands. They're willing to take risks, seize opportunities and innovate. Those by themselves are not bad charasteristics. It's the dumb criminals that cause problems. Good luck Deutschbro!
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>>533638881
We are all in this together in the sense that this world has served us nothing but constant suffering. I don’t give a fuck who runs this world. If there’s a cabal of Jews who have quadrillions of dollars in assets, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STOP THEM. All I can do is stay off their radar and fuck off while they are “quietly enslaving us.”

Also, fuck Reddit.
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>>533631721
>first time poooster
>chooses wall of text mode
tldr, ngmi.
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>>533637777
Thank you for the compliment and you welcome anytime. I appreciate it and honestly my wife and I have similar goals of getting land and being self sufficient on it, building the mansion-fort as I always call it from scratch, but on the east coast and for what I want to do I feel like I'm happy if I get 10 acres but still a decent drive from the city, home, and my operations. We're actually thinking of switching gears for that and just getting like some foreclosed house that's basically a bit nicer than the fight club house as the move and then building from there given I already have a lot of home building skills to fuck around with a foreclosed place for cheap and we don't care for the fancy modern shit at all. There's also this kind of pioneer feeling I get from it where we're

That's pretty cool all of that is enjoyable stuff there's something really primal and enjoyable about procuring my own food naturally especially with foraging.

But honestly OP if that's what you really want to do why not just start doing that now and start making that goal happen? Anchorage is going to become one of the most important cities in the world in the next 20-30 years for shipping both via the airport and Northwest passage so they're will be work and good work to float you initially and at times (we're absolutely not meant to work all the time but in seasons where we hone in and then others were we enjoy our harvest and plan) and that lower peninsula is insanely good farmland. The housing market is going to crash in the next 2 years which will also bring land prices (and business prices) down too, and a good glass greenhouse is pretty cheap for what it is and can be done if you sho around a bit or install it yourself. Part 1/2
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>>533637777
Yeah you'd probably need a small down payment (but honestly you really don't) but you're forming a farm which usually slashes your property taxes in half almost anywhere in America by registering as a farm anyway (there's another term for less than 10 acres I think it's a charter then but same category) and then let's you cheese the USDA loan system with grants and loans you don't need to pay back and can game pretty easily.
Like you have an actual plan you're not some guy who has no ambitions but to goon to gacha porn or rot in the system.

Life is short, why wait to be happy when you know what you want to do?

Part 2/2
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>>533635171

Are you honestly dumb enough to think this guy is a real jap? Do you know how many fucking fat white weaboos live there?
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>>533631721
>what do we actually do? Seriously
Join your local Active Club.
Genuinely. I recently got into the New England AC.
If you're lost, this will give you purpose and a future to fight for.
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>>533637073
This.
Building our own institutions, ones that aren't thoroughly rotted to the core, is the way to go.
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>>533640874
I don’t really care. He lives in Japan, he’s gotta deal with all the same issues unless he’s loaded which I’m betting he’s not.
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Corruption is linearly measured as c=discretion-challengers.

Just today it was revealed that Nick was Fed. He was hoping to get people angry with red Jews to vote for blue Jews. Jews frequently match fix in elections.

So you have to introduce challengers. Americans need to force the GOP to run somebody like Candace Owens. Democrats need a Bernie.

Basically unless a candidate disavows Israel they are a shill and will corrupt our country further, and if we fail to field them then our nation will not have real elections.
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>>533631721
>what do we actually do? Seriously.

you dont like it, but with out wewed i wanna go savage on the eu westerners usa uk an israel./

so its as above what must be done., ./
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>>533633547
>The only way to change things is politically,


stfu

if so why politicans be talk about political violence. im ready to pop these nigas that made our lives a misery

gib bullets
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fking hell you young people gotta lot to say, good that means its working, revolution is in your hands young one., . Of course ill command to win a battles anon, good luck see you on battlefield
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>>533631721
>work for 40 fucking years so I can barely retire at 65 [19yo POV]
Oof. You'll never retire, lad — it's over, acceptance.
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>>533631721
>retire at 65
retire? lol
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>>533631721
That's why men are checking out of society at an alarming and nothing can stop what is coming.
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>>533631721
What they can't take from you is humanity, if you think about it if everyone picked up and moved into the wilderness and started squirting out kids and growing food, for themselves, most of the west's social problems would vanish overnight

so it's literally not a human issue, it's an institutional issue, created by humans
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>>533645300
I got all the tendies and frens I'll ever need.
Six years celibate, after decades of dozenly whores.
—14—
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>>533631721
Have you tried closing the tab?
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>>533633455
The funny point was when the execs figured out the platforms get more engagement if the algorithm shows things that slightly enraging people instead of nice things. Wich was around 2012 i think and doubled down in 2016.

>>533633455
> In practice? I think democracy needs to be improved. Voting is not a right, it's a skill. Only people educated in a specific subject matter should vote on said matter. Only people with at least 110 IQ should vote

This is such a retarded idea. Also highly jewish/marxist. They would just change the rules for voting until only the right results happen forever. In practice they would just tie it to degree anyway. Every single person knows University educated people make the worst decisions in general. Maybe because they were conviced gut instinct doesn’t exist or is inferior to „logical reasoning“, aka just obeying the experts wich are found jn government.
The universities mostly produce mentally handicapped marxists, useless.
And they make even worse decision in groups wich perplexes the normie because they think more smart in one roo
= more better decisions. It‘s the opposite

Anyone just proposing this idea outs himself as retard. Either he wishes „smarter“ people take his right or is oblivious to history or/and the nature of expertism and group dynamics - wich have always produced atrocious results, every singe time.
Imagine a bunch of redditors deciding on how to spend your money (bascially what we have right now maybe more gay)

Only those paying taxes shall be allowed to vote, wich is the only logical and fair solition. Those who pay should have the say.
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>6000 files
So newfags as well

Real talk: you need to decide fucking now if you want to stay. It’s an endless stream of bots and shills aswell as indians and shit. And will only get worse. You will find some nuggests here and there and If your mental filter and pattern recognition is sharp you get best views on the current events and be able to predict things. But at what cost? You need to lurk two years minimum and probably five to really get it. It’s useful, if you can use it.
Decide, „You are here forever“ is not a meme
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>>533639179
that's because you are a reddit npc

go back
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>>533631721
I think sometimes our ancestors chide us from beyond the void because we have it so easy in their eyes.
I think largely as we get closer to ultimate knowledge of the universe, or at least a complete understanding of humanity we carry a heavy weight around our necks.
Most likely humans shouldn't be allowed at the immediate table of God anyways so I'll just do some housework today, maybe garden, feed some birds, or a feral cat.
I also occasionally call people out on their bullshit irl
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>>533631721
You are the only country where you can get firearms for defense.
What you gonna do? Move to Europe for same shit but not being able or allowed to defend yourself?
You have no choice but to fight, yes I know you don't want to but when did you ever participate in a fight both sides consented to? Sometimes you never had much of a choice to begin with, dukes up and chin up kid, like I said yours is the only country where you have access to the tools needed to survive.
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>>533631721
>we got dealt horrible hands.
Life has always been a challenge, First Noble Truth (500BC): Life is Suffering
Without challenge, humans might as well be bacteria, challenge is what we live for, the challenge of the Age is to Refuse to be Demoralized, life is not about 'happiness' it is about Self Overcoming, What Matters all Happiness? It is Poverty, Filth, and Wretched Contentment! - Nietzsche
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>>533648356
I'm a large dude though, also an '81 rooster ftr
>to infinity and BYND
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>>533635313
>Congratulations OP, for the first day of the next 2 decades shit posting journey!
haha
the horror, the horror
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>>533638011
>the system's changing
Ok good...?

>>533647698
I did not say the university right now is not a meme. We need to go back to teaching logic and rhetoric and start from hopefully elementary.

As for "you shouldn't ignore gut feelings" - that's retarded. Of course you should make decisions based in measurable reality. Your gut tells you to eat rocks when you're deprived of minerals.

The problem is that we often ignore mesurable reality like IQ differences between populations, the fact arabs are tribal and don't trust anyone from outside their tribes, etc. and think we can just solve all these differences by brute forcing the western government on all populations and solve everything with enough money.
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>>533648293
Well they had to have been newfags, they were like 16yo. Can’t have 20TB of this crap right out of the womb.

Like I said, only been here 2 months. Don’t know if I want to stay or not. Sometimes I just come here for a laugh, to see a different part of the internet I don’t usually see yk?
Thanks for the advice.
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>>533631721
>How do we escape?
Wake Up from the Dream
i.e. de-hypnotize yourself
your mind is in a negative thought-loop from too much media, it is not Reality
stop believing everything you think
the thought bubbles are just random limit cycles orbiting an egoic madness, swim through the churning surf of neurotic thought to the calm swells of Universal Mind and relax

Check out this new documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5KRnstXYUg
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OP, don't give up. God doesn't make mistakes.

Read the Old Testament prophets, there is a way forward. We must soon escape this place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dx0qWHL7dc

https://pol.foundation/Happening.html
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>>533631721
Don't worry, anon
A marbled and buttery soft thing like you will be eaten almost immediately when things go
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>>533631721
Your just lazy with no skills. You lived on the internet and learned nothing in school. Absolutely not my problem. Enjoy being poor.


Skill issue thread.
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>>533649281
The most pro tip you're gonna get: don't believe anything.
Satire, sincere, posts on this board are everything. There's truth as much as there is fiction, but to believe anything is going to disappoint you down the road.
Truth doesn't require belief in order to exist, lies do.
By declining to believe anything, you defeat the Jew.
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>>533631876
Kek
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>>533648576
I don’t know man, Norway, Iceland, and Switzerland are kinda nice. At least your tax dollars go to good causes like better roads and healthcare. And I’m pretty sure Norway can own guns right? Just way more enforced like only with some hunting license.



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