The Eleventh Circuit ruled today that "machineguns are not protected by the Second Amendment as weapons in common use for lawful purposes". You can read the opinion here:https://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/files/202414058.pdf
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>>533633227Show tits State your business
Sounds like circular reasoning to me>Ban machine guns>Now machine guns can't be used for any lawful purpose>Therefore ban is legal because of the consequences that the ban produced
>>533633227>weapons in common use for lawful purposesmachine guns didn't exist when the 2A was written so this is a later-added policy which changes the whole interpretation of the 2A, which is the militia will use what it has to defend itself (and defend liberty).
Judges are Kikes
>>533633227I would fucking love to see machine guns in the hands of feral niggers and white mass shooters.
>>533633364It's worse than that. Many NFA holders don't want them deregulated because it will devalue their collections.
>>533634653>ManyWell how many?I bet there aren't nearly so many NFA investors as there are people who want the NFA repealed.
>>533633227Citizens should be allowed to purchase any product from MIC organizations
>>533633227abridgment is infringment. this has been ruled.the eleventh circuit is full of dog shit.
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>>533633227the 2nd amendment is literally about military weaponry
>>533633227>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED>except for those guns... they don't count so you can infringe on thoseDon't you find it insulting that instead of amending the constitution to exclude machine guns they just use jewish lawyer tricks to pretend it does?It's a good thing FRTs make that gay ban pretty much redundant anyway.
>>533633227So now they appeal to Supreme Court right?
>>533633227Americucks want this, they want it because they haven't done anything about it.
>>533635280Jesus Christ look up the history of his co judge abudu.
>>533633227why do american heckin patriots need machine guns lmao. So they can help Trump enact the next COVID lockdowns? you people are so gay
>>533636086Its a bunch of boomer fuds who are still clutching their pre-86 machine guns that have more than 1000x in value after Reagen (anti-christ) defiled the constitution.
>>533636148How many of these people do you think there are?
>>533636185I don't have to guess, the registry under the NFA/ATF keeps these numbers publicly available. My guess is of no value to you.
>>533636367I didn't ask you to guess I asked how many do you think there are.If you answer is objectively true then so much the better, but you didn't provide it anyway. What is your answer?
>>533636484I reject your premise. It is of no value.
>>533636608You reject my premise that it's possible to think of the number of people you're referring to, and to communicate that number? Why is that?
>>533633227Drones are weapons in use for common purposes
>>533634485Nogs already have glock switches
>>533634653their collections are already devalued by virtue of the fact that nfa holders can only buy sell and trade amongst themselves
>>533636671You are cut off, you are delusional.
>>533636827I'm neither, but you're awfully stubborn for no good reason that I can see. What is the number of the people that you were originally referring to? I don't even need an exact number, just a rough estimate.
>>533633364this. the irony of guns and "lawful purpose" is that all gun related incidents go to trial anyway. dare we mention the Amaud Arbury case, or even the apple river stabbing (fuck it lets bring knives into this too). there is no preexisting blanket lawful purpose. my gun sitting on the table next to me as of right now is not existing in any sort of default lawful state AS A GUN FOR SELF DEFENSE. it is legal as a hunk of weirdly shaped metal, but i dont have the right to bear weirdly shaped hunks of metal. i have a right to BEAR ARMS for security etc etc etc. so if i use my gun, THEN the lawful purpose is discovered through evidence gathering, motive, and such which means that my little common use pistol can immediately lose all its lawful purpose, a lawful purpose it really never even had. why we cant register guns as self defense guns specifically is beyond me. by shooting an intruder with a legally designated self defense gun WOULD imply the lawful purpose for THIS gun.
>>533636786Not really, it's $200 Anon. If anything it makes them more exclusive
>>533637138think of it as a service weapon for cops. civilians should be able to legally designate or license one of their guns as self defense, hunting, recreational shooting, historical significance or any combination of the four. so if someone breaks into your home and you happen to shoot them with your 1790s Brown bess that you registered as an historically significant firearm, but not as a self defense weapon... oopsie.BUT if you DID register or license your brown bess as a self defense weapon, and someone breaks into your home, well you just made the news with an awesome story of how you stopped an intruder with a musket ball. good for you!
>>533633227>machineguns are not protected by the Second Amendment as weapons in common use for lawful purposesWhat kind of retards interprets law over there? The 2A does not concern itself with "lawful purposes" or "common use", it plainly states that citizens need to have access to military equipment sufficient to counter a contemporary professional army. Just because you fucks can't read english at the level of 300 years ago doesn't mean it isn't in plain text.
>>533637223i suppose. but that exclusivity undermines the value of a gun as a tool for freedom and safety. i wonder if collectors would pass out their guns to friends and neighbors if SHTF. the dollar value of a gun and the philosophical value of a gun are not the same. i think collectors and dealers dont consider this
>>533633227>lawful purposesKek. The 2A exists explicitly for unlawful purposes.
Obviously no one is defending their family with a M240. But it doesn't matter. Guns are fun.
>>533633227the argument is that the military cannot be used against americans, which we all know is bullshit, they'd use the military if they wanted to. And the same people argue that civilians shouldn't outgun the police, which they did during the prohibition, but now the roles have flip-flopped. Police use tanks, explosive drones, and machine guns against civilians with impunity, meaning a standing army has the american populace outgunned and under their control. Any judge in support of this is a traitor, in violation to their oath, and you may make inferences as to what should happen to such people on your own. The NFA is illegal, the GCA has been violated, the ATF is not following the law, and our government at every level is trying to fist-fuck us.
>>533633227Not a usa but wouldnt the law collapse considering machine guns from before 1980 are legal
>>533637944Like surely they could at least legalise machine guns made in the style of pre 1980s
>>533634485Coping shitskin thinks illegal means monkeys don't have it lol. Never saw a full auto glock with extended clip? Never saw a conversion kit? Cucked german.
>>533636757>Nogs already have glock switchesAnd non nogs have super safeties and FRTs. Full auto via those is defacto legal already.
>>533637944See, the thing is that judges are elitist scum that don't adhere to law but more to the whims of their elite friends. Couple that with blatant anti-2a propaganda pushed at law schools across the country and you arrive at what you aptly pointed out, which is a willful betrayal of the rule of law and their oath they swore.
>>533633227looking forward to buying an M2 with AP rounds for home defense against unlawful actions by the police.
>>533633227It isn't like you fucking cucks would do anything with those machine guns either. You already have a ton of regular guns and all you do is suck kike cock all day and watch TV.
>>533638150Americans mostly use them to shoot at pest species
>>533633227but are machine guns Arms?
>>533636367this reply is clavicular-tier cringe.
>>533634485>I would fucking love to see machine guns in the hands of feral niggersThey already are. Did you even look at the case the OP is talking about? The "Glock switches" that the guy in the case was selling are all over the place. They're trivially easy to 3D print, they take maybe 20 minutes at most and cost pennies of filament. They're literally a more-or-less cubical "backplate" for a Glock slide, with a small triangular probe that has to get pinned into the backplate.US patent 5705763 gives the exact dimensions of the probe. There are, distinctly differently, also forced-reset triggers available for the Glock. These give the user the capability for burst fire BUT they don't fall under the language of the federal statute that regulates machine guns, so they're legal to own (unless your state/county/city has banned them). The Glock ones aren't all over the place in the ghettos, but that's just because the "switches" are so cheap and common already and the niggers don't care if they're violating federal law or not.
>>533634805A lot of NFA "collectors" make noises about how they'd be ok with the 1986 ban being overturned, but if there were actually any chance of that happening you can bet your ass that most of those would be begging their Congressmen not to overturn it. It wouldn't affect the value of classic collector's items like, say, an original 1916 Maxim, but the modern stuff like M16s and HK MP5s would only be worth what the factory sells them to cops for. We're already seeing the M16 market prices plunge because of FRTs. What's the point in buying a $20,000 registered "lightning link" when you can buy an unregulated $60 SuperSafety?
>>533637862How about an MP5SD? The close you are to a threat the more it makes sense.
>>533633227I am for keeping switch s illegal because it sends niggers to prison. But the ban should be lifted so collectors can rescue military surplus from retarded 3rd world conflicts. They can kill each other with Chinese AK instead.
>>533638050>glock with a clipsure thing retard
>>533638927anon, the firring of them in city limits would still be illegal.
>>533636148>after Reagen (anti-christ) defiled the constitution.It wasn't Reagan's fault. The Democrats threw the Hughes Amendment into place on a voice vote that most agree didn't actually have enough votes to pass. Then Reagan threatened to veto the bill but the NRA told him to go ahead and sign it.You want to blame anyone, blame the NRA for pushing for more gun control just as they always have. FFS, the only reason we have a national database of gun purchases was that the NRA just had to stick their noses in on the Brady Act and they demanded "instant checks", which required the creation of a database, which resulted in the NRA being able to fundraise so they could "lobby" to have the database that they demanded be created to be deleted later.
>>533637770>The 2A exists explicitly for unlawful purposes.Correct and the more tyrannical the government gets the more it tries to steal our rights. >>533634485The 2A and our entire country and legal system were never designed with niggers in mind.
>>533635773They are very unreliable with gun cases and frequently refuse to hear them. >>533635889Yes, we started out as a country of free White men and now we're a slum of unwanted aliens who think they can tell us what to do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Abudu
>>533633957Yes they did dummy
>>533638927Niggers shouldn't be allowed to be armed in the US. They can't handle the responsibility. Our society wasn't designed for them. https://files.catbox.moe/0nf69a.mp4
>>533638715That doesn't seem easily accessible for the average shooter and searching the plans probably puts you on a list.
>>533633227If it covers cannons it covers machine guns.The founding fathers would have gave up their collective left nuts for a better way to kill red coats.
>>533637387>What kind of retardsjewish democrat retards (sometimes jewish Republican) that want to enslave us.
>>533638209Google AI says yes.
>>533633227Every mass killer is moving on to drones and vehicles now because it's simply superior and harder to deal with for law enforcement when you can get these things everywhere. Every Ev is literally a rolling hazard capable of taking out a city block. A cellphone could stop a plane, imagine what a tesla could do?
>>533638927It pisses me off that there are boxes of unused STG44’s floating around the Mideast and Africa and there is no way to bring them to America where they will be lovingly cared for.
>>533638715>>533639484Here is the game. The niggers/cubans in the 80s were given narcotics to sell by the CIA. Then the nons were armed with machine pistols, also probably by the CIA. Then the nons started doing drive bys on each other. So the government outlawed machine guns. Instead of banning machineguns, we should have banned cubans and niggers. The nons are used as a vehicle to disarm Whites and to steal our rights from us. >the niggers can't behave so you can't have it https://medium.com/timeline/nra-machine-guns-1986-265cb939c77c
>>533633227>make it illegal for people to buy new machine guns>declare they are not in common use>ban even the old onesEvery single person involved in this entire process should be flayed alive for how disgustingly jewish this is.
>>533639953I stayed at that hotel in Vegas and I could still see the fire damage on the ceiling. They had a cop parked outside 24/7.
>>533640027>No if you buy those for recreational purposes, we can't use them for war crimes!
>>533640195I am not getting to specifics but Lithium ion batteries are dangerous as fuck when tampered with on small devices, now imagine a car sized one.
>>533640405Yeah, the moisture from the air alone is sufficient to start the chemical reaction. Lithium fires need Class D fire extinguishers because water can intensify the fire.
>>533640700Nah, they just bring 17 trucks and when it reignites they bring in 20 more.
>>533640773Water doesn't put out the fires since the metal can continue to burn indefinitely. I could go into details of how someone could turn one into a small MOAB but I won't because I don't want to inform retards.
>>533641091They still only bring out water trucks when they catch fire on the highway.
>>533641331That's simply to cool it off, even when they remove the vehicles they have to take it to a lot where it can burn down. some of these lots are filled with thousands of burning Evs, an EV can be burning and still drive on the road for some time too. They are insanely dangerous.
>>533633227Make machine guns anyway.I'm not coming to check.Only political retards have to fear the people they fucked over.
>>533633227>2nd amendment RIGHT>shall not be infringed>nah but what about le lawful purpose??Fuck courts, fuck judges, fuck lawyers, fuck kikes
>>533638052Safeties?FRTs?Nigger buck status.
>>533633227Honestly thought that was a demonic trannys painted fingernails.
>>533644520Fuck courts, fuck judges, fuck lawyers, fuck kikes, fuck the banks, fuck their nigger dogs wearing gay pedophile champion badges.Fuck their inside trading and to the cyber security faggot reading this just remember you're going to Hell, dog.Defend THE PEOPLE or fucking die.
