Was Jesus killed by the Jews or by the Romans?
>>533633532What does the bible say?
Who gives a shit
>>533633532I mean God could've saved him from all of that easily considering the things He is capable of.So really God killed Jesus.
>>533633532Both
>>533633532I’ve been on standby for the past 7 hours shitposting at work
>>533633556The Romans
>>533633532it was the blacks
>>533633584The death of Christ was necessary to fulfill the promises of the Old Testament. Without it, we’d live under kike law like you can’t imagine
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>>533633621Does it?
Didn't they kill him because he shit-talked the temple or something? I'm a know nothing agnostic but I think Tucker mentioned something about that.
>>533633532The jewish mob pressured the romans into it, which perhaps puts even more sin on the romans for capitulating."Washing your hands of it" is not an excuse. The romans should have refused and just purged all of the jews. All of them.
>>5336336211 Thessalonians 2 would beg to differ, you moron
>>533633532Neither, he never existed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTllC7TbM8M&t=1962s
>>533633532Your IP address has been logged by ASIO, sent to NSA, and filed in a mossad server.
>>533633532Jews living in rome
>>533633705>because he shit-talked the temple or somethingnah. he got caught with a naked boy in a garden at 4AM.see Mark 14:51-52
>>533633532>Romans: this guy honestly didn't do anything wrong this is all fucked up>Jews: KILL HIM MAIM HIM MAKE HIM SUFFERRRRRR>Romans: how about we kill this actual piece of shit instead and you all relax>Jews: KILL HIM NOW OR WE CHIMP THE FUCK OUT MOTHERFUCKER KILL HIM NOOOOOWWWW
>>533633532Say you've got a jury, a judge, and an executioner. The punishment is death. The jury all decide the suspect is guilty, the judge swears to uphold the verdict, the executioner pulls the lever for the gallows.Which party killed the guilty? The people who decided the verdict, the man who upholds the decided verdict, or the man pulling the lever?
>>533633749>richard carrier the most debunked retard in the history of retardslmao
if jewsus didn't die, christianity wouldn't existso shouldn't you be thanking whomever killed him?
>>533633556>>533633621It says the Jews, but only for 2 generations
>>533633532Whats your thoughts on Willy Wonka style of trials? Should Willy be prosecuted according to the human laws?
>>533633816They killed him out of hatred and envy. Nothing the Pharisees did was moral under God. Why do you think He called them a den of vipers?
>>533633816That was sort of the point, wasn't it. It was a test for the jews. Accept jesus and change their ways or kill him and end the covenant between them and God.
>>533633749dis nigger named dick carrieralso, someone founded the religion at some point
first one then the other
>>5336336212 shekels have been deposited into your account, saar
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>>533634002>someone founded the religion at some pointYes, Saul. It's why I call it Saulstianity.
>>533633756>jew medicThe medics on those boats were ordered to shoot at anyone who wouldn't jump from the ship onto the beach.
>David Killed Uriah>NU UH, ENEMY SOLDIERS KILLED URIAHThis is what Kike arguments boil down to. And they will roast in hell for eternity
>>533634727>medicMP is military police
>>533633532> All the people [i.e. Jews] answered: "His blood be on us and our children!"
>>533633649>The death of Christ was necessary to fulfill the promises of the Old TestamentNo it wasn't, you dumb kike.(It was inevitable, not necessary. Inevitable given the fucked up history of the Hebrews leading up to Christ.)
>>533633532(((yes)))
>>533635213Galilee wasn't even Jewish, you tard.
>>533635066>cannibal digits
>>533633532Neither. He never existed. It’s a myth. Grow the fuck up.
>>533635276>jesus wasnt a jewread your bible retard
jews were part of roman empire so both answers are true
>>533633532They're the same picture.
>>533633727They probably didn't have the garrison to fight against a complete rebellion before getting reinforcements. Are you telling me Pilate should have risked the lives of every roman in the land because of a kike feud between kikes, to maybe save one kike from his own people?
>>533633649We who?
>>533635330Read my bible retard.
>>533633532God grants the state authority to put evil men and women to death.Pilate put that sword into the hands of the Jews in an attempt to sway their conscience.The Romans found Jesus to be innocent and litigated on his behalf.Pilate(the Romans) declared him innocent. Jews declared him guilty and sentenced him to death.The Jews murdered Jesus.Pilate(the Romans) failed to protect an innocent man.
>>533633875By children they mean their descendants.
>>533633532are you mistaking tool with hand holding it?if jews did not kvetch about, Rome would have done nothing
>>533633621Shut up Raj.
>>533635819>Jesus was of the religion of Hebrewism, or as we call it today, the Religion of the Old TestamentYou mean the Torah that all Jews follow, you fucking retard? Jesus was probably not even a real historical figure. There's little to no evidence of his existence.
>>533633532you are a faggot aussie, i get you hate christ you wanna get fucked in the ass but still, scientifically speaking you are still a genetic dead end
>>533639630>Jews follow the TorahNo Jews follow the Talmud. The book that Jesus was killed for denouncing as satanic. Jesus followed the word of God that was the old testament and the spirit of it.The pharisees and their progeny, modern jews, do not follow the Torah (the word of god) they follow the Talmud (the word of the rabbis). This is why Jesus fought them because the word of man is fallible. When they killed him the overturned the old testament and began the new testament. Jesus was not a pharisee and thus he was not the same as a modern Jew. Jesus was not a edomite (converts), he was an israelite. Modern jews are all converts.Modern jews follow the talmud.Jesus did neither. Thus he is not a jew.Why do you israeli's always use the same old tired arguments?
>>533633749You could have posted a black Hebrew isrealite and it would be just as correct. >>533635330>implying Jesus was a talmudist>>533639630>Kikes follow the torahHello newfag
>>533633532Fuck off with your desert monkey bullshit.kys
>>533639910>The pharisees and their progeny, modern jews, do not follow the Torah (the word of god) they follow the Talmud (the word of the rabbis).8th day circumcision is in the Torah.Keeping the sabbath is in the Torah.Kosher diet is in the Torah.Jews are following the Torah.
>>533639910>The Talmud is the central text of Rabbinic Judaism, and second in authority only to the Hebrew Bible>second in authorityThe Talmud is mostly just Jews in the medieval era arguing about random shit. It's not as important as the Torah/Tanakh. The Jews literally use the Old Testament as argument on why Jesus is NOT the Messiah outlined in the prophecies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiFixVjwAYk. You worship (((Yahweh))) just like the them, dumb Christkike.
>>533640252To jews you cannot interpret the Torah without the Talmud. The Talmud allows you circumvent certain parts of the Torah. For instance thou shalt not murder is in the Torah as a core tenet, yet the Talmud states that it only applies to other jews.The Talmud thus supercedes the Torah to Jews and thus is more important. This was the injustice that Jesus sort to amend and when it was not possible he rewrote the testament. >>533640254>second in authorityWrong. The Talmud overrules the Torah to jews.
>>533633681Yes.
>>533633532It was both the Romans who did it were jews
>>533633556Jews set up the conspiracy and put it on Romans who were very careful/worried about not letting the jurisprudence get out of hand (as it frequently did) do the execution.
>>533640690The bible says that the romans did not want to kill Jesus as he had not broken any of their laws.The jews even released Barabbas a bandit and murderer rather than release Jesus when given the option by Pilate.Then when Pilate refused even more, the jews said that if he did not there would be more uprisings and rebellions, something that Pilate had been sent to Judea to stop by Caesar. Thus it was the jews who killed Jesus and the bible and early Christians make it very clear that they are to blame for his death.Funnily enough even though Pilate tried to placate the pharisee jews in Judea they still revolted.
>>533633584God doesn't work like that>>533633599It's not entirely unreasonable to say so. It's just that if there was a riot because Jesus was not killed as the jews demanded, the governor of the province would have been executed (something I had to learn from somebody else). But at the end of the day, it was the jews
>>533633705The jews killed him mainly because he wouldn't participate in their retarded self-hating legalistic larp as in "don't heal people on the sabbath" etc. In other words, he was not okay with the humiliation rituals and that sealed his fate
>>533633532The Romans probably strung him up because of the jews, then the jews probably attacked him when he couldn't defend himself.
>>533633532it was the jews manipulating the roman system that they lived under, pontius pilate even offered them a way out of their nonsense by offering barabbas, a terrible criminal, in jesus' place but they refused and let barabbas go free instead. have you tried reading a book, idiot? this is even in the mel gibson movie. are you just being fucking stupid on purpose because you think youre cute? youre not cute, youre fucking gay and you need an ass wooping.
>>533641193yeah, this
The Jews wanted to kill Jesus> Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.John 5:18Pontius Pilate (the Roman ruler of Judea) didn't want to kill Jesus, but he was pressed into it by the Jewish mob. >Then said Pilate to the chief priests and to the people, I find no fault in this ManLuke 23:4
if the romans were indifferent about Jesus why did they make a crown of thorns and mockingly bow down to Him
