FINISH YOUR SLOP WHILE YOU CAN
>>533635812That says it's the opposite. Demand is so high they can get away with charging way more, and need to limit who is allowed to use it against humans.
>>533635910These are two sides of the same coin.
>>533635812i was talking with my neighbor the other day. he started a small coffee roasting business out of a food truck. he was roasting beans so i popped on over to say hey and check out the process.. pretty interesting. a nice guy. however he i noticed he had his roaster connected to a laptop and he was analyzing the roasting data with some software, which wasnt necessarily bad i guess but then he was running the data through claude AND grok to further analyze the data for him. additionally he also used some gen ai to create a logo for his business as well.i couldnt help but think of how ridiculous of a premise it all is. just roast the beans and make sure they taste good. how hard is that? and using gen ai to make business logos, to me, is like using stock photos and music and clipart tier for a high school powerpoint presentation. it's cheap, lazy, low quality. i hope the ai bubble bursts so as to snap everyone out of their collective stupor
>>533635812The general cheap availability of LLMs was basically a paid beta. You were giving them training data and paying a small fee for the privilege. Now their models are being packaged for enterprise sale which allows them to demand a significantly higher price. Consider this. Slack is basically AIM from the 90s which Salesforce is packaging up as enterprise software and selling for seven figure contracts to companies. Using your analysis, when slack started charging more it ment the instant messaging bubble was bursting. In fact it was just entering the enterprise market and poised to rake in billions. Remember kids, enterprise SaaS is basically a blank check where a steak dinner with a boomer CIO means seven plus figure contracts with no onus to deliver value.
>>533635812>prices going up means the bubble is burstingit’s the opposite schlomo but you already knew that
>>533636085>i hope the ai bubble bursts because ai helps regular people to put things into motion with less effort
>>533635812Local LLM with a reasonable amount of VRAM is almost at Sonnet level.Better in edge cases that its uncensored
LEAVE MY SLOP BE OR THERE'LL BE HELL TOUPÉE>LEAVE MY SLOP BE OR THERE'LL BE HELL TOUPÉELEAVE MY SLOP BE OR THERE'LL BE HELL TOUPÉE>LEAVE MY SLOP BE OR THERE'LL BE HELL TOUPÉELEAVE MY SLOP BE OR THERE'LL BE HELL TOUPÉE>LEAVE MY SLOP BE OR THERE'LL BE HELL TOUPÉE
>>533636085Kek. It's like we are living in one of those absurd comedy movies.
>>533636374how would you get around to hosting that, in steps, if you don't mind?
>>533635812>For clarity: we're not treating customers equallyIsn't that illegal?
>>533636085literally the best use case for ai who cares
>>533635910CopeDemand is there for free models, now they start to skin you
>>533636442It's AI, the laws currently don't apply to them
>>533636085This
>>533636089Nigger if you can do it everyone can do it and demand is not going upYou will end up promting porn while rat chasing jeets to work for basically free
>>533636442Depends on your connections and budget
>>533636085go cry about it. oh wait you just did, here. embarrassing
>>533636085@GrokIs this true? Tell me how to feel about this.
>>533636434Kobold.ai works well with silly tavern, but I like LM studio. The best models atm are Gemma 4 and qwen 3.6 look for versions with uncensored, heretic or abliterated in the name.LM studio also works way better for ERP with RAG plugins for going through a bunch of txt files and docs if you have them.I havent tuned shit well enough to get to Opus 4.6 levels, but fair enough when I only have 48gn of vram
>>533636089this technology is like 2 years old why are you acting like you have any idea what is going to happen?
>>533635812>prosumerNerds don't get bullied hard enough
pay up claucks
>>533636773>I only have 48gb of VRAMOh boy that hurts to read when I'm sitting on 12 gb. Should I invest in a new GPU before the bubble bursts? Are proceso going to surge like it happened with RAM sticks?
>>533636430a farce. we're living in a farce. and most of the retards here love it because theyve been bred into sociopathy and narcissism.
>>533636812Because I work for a hype scaler and I talk to CIO/CDO types all day long. They want to buy this shit. Every boomer executive has wet dreams about “chat GPT for my business” without any afterthought about how it would be implemented or what value it would derive. Literally every call I am on is the same. “Anon we need to get our data ready for AI. Why? Because if we don’t get on the AI train my business will be left behind”. Same script. No answers to my very basic question “please tell me how AI will generate ROI” just a blanket SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
>>533637024are GPUs prices going to surge*
>>533635812it's bursting for useless westerners, china will have most of its economy ran by AI by 2040
>>533635812Claude code leaked their own source a few weeks ago, Anthropic is run by retards.You don't need jeetcode 2000 all you need is ChatGPT $20/mth to do product design, write tests using Codex, and to style the UI. Write everything else by hand it's dead simple but only after you have planned everything out into reusable modules so when it comes time to code that shit is already done. You should have already worked out the interfaces in pseudocode, changed them as you designed the rest of the system, then it's a simple bottom up approach and generating slop not needed.
>>533637071once you make it high enough up in a company you realize how ignorant about basic reality many of these people are. theres a frantic childlike desperation among the top brass.
>>533635812Adobe is like 30€/mo rn, whats the big deal, shit is making everybody 100x more productive and calling jeets bluff. But somehow since Anthropic defied Hegseth for war and surveillance use it is being beaten on publicly as a scam contantly. Fuck off glowie.
>>533635812Do you want a robot daughter or not?
>>533635812Charging money isn't really a great strategy, in my opinion.Point 1: AI does not make money and most likely won't any time soon (niche exceptions apply). AI firms get money and are hyped because of their revenue and user growth. People are purposefully ignoring the profit aspect as that would probably tank the entire sector. So why even try to make money? Don't even let investors think about it. Offer the product for free, hell pay people money so they sign up. Keep the hype alive as long as possible.It's like focusing a crypto start up on usefulness instead of Jake Paul UFC sponsorships. There is no usefulness, there's only hype. Point 2: As soon as you charge money users leave to firms that understand that user growth is the goal, not profitability. At the end you tank the only metrics that matter while your (negative) profit might not even change.
>>533635812No it's just the planned jewtification of economic model
yeah its bursting any moment now.i wonder how artfags are coping.
>>533636442It's "normal"https://blog.christianposta.com/deploy/blue-green-deployments-a-b-testing-and-canary-releases/They're testing to see how big the backlash is gonna be, and if acceptable enough they'll push it through everyone else. What is goyim gonna do, stop using the text generators? They're already hooked.
>>533635812its perfectly in line with their monetization strategy doe>get users hooked on product>once youre satisfied with the numbers, start cranking prices up
>>533637500can't believe the level of quality thats available for free these days.
Good. Processing power should be used for gooners. Erotic chat bots and image generation are the only retail purpose of AI. If you want to vibe code, go pay for an enterprise plan the same way you would for any other software for commercial use. >I can't afford itThen you're not coding anything worthy to begin with.
Why the fuck are corporations always trying to charge money for the shit they make?
>>533637024There are quantised versions of those models that are fine for rp and image gen if thats what you want to do.I'm comparing my outputs to claude 4.6 though, so my bar is way higher from being spoilt
>>533637599>implying this is a game that the shatbot wrotestupid negroe, these are merely reskin modyour psyop sucksyoure so low iq you must be semitic
>>533635812>prosumerthat guy sucked dick and took dicks in his ass
>>533637419You are mistakenly thinking this is a B2C play. This isn’t Uber. In order to have a successful IPO these firms need subscription SaaS contracts from Fortune 500 companies with pre paid ACV.
>>533638095what are you talking about?i just prompted "make a hl game screenshot but include re:zero characters in it".
>>533635910It's the opposite, there's not a lot of consumer demand for subscription-based Ai, so they are betting that the people who are currently subscribed really depend on Ai and will just accept the price gouging.
>>533638922They don’t give a shit about consumer demand. The are shifting to the enterprise market. This isn’t Apple, they won’t make their money selling shit tech to midwits.
>>533635812Based. Price out the poorfags. If you can’t afford the $200/mo option then you shouldn’t bother in the first place. Skill issue.
>>533636085You sound like some liberal faggot.
>>533635812chatgpt and grok are constantly overloaded and limits come up immediately for free users. something's definitely going on. not that i care, i just use LLMs to write job cover letters for companies that never hire anyone.
Luddites will lose
>>533636360Lol first reply best reply. Absolutly obliterated thst selfish dipshit
>>533635910>Demand is so high they can get away with charging way moreThats what they said about video games last summer and raised prices to 70-80 dollars. Now the prices have reverted back to 40-60 because nobody was buying overpriced AAA slop anymore. 100 dollar monthly fee on using an AI service that has to be monitored by a professional is going to lose steam fast because that makes companies ask why won't they just go back to Excel that is way cheaper.
>>533637071ok retard i actually use the stuff to do things for real and it is like $20 a month
>>533638972Apple makes a crazy amount of money from the education system. Every art college student gets a 'free' ipad' when they start, lol.Public schools are bad too not for students but for back end staff.
>>533635812>>533635812>>533637613>>533639482>>533639182This is obviously what's going to happen: everyone is going to be priced out somehow. I mean have you seen the deepfakes coming out now? I saw one on /r/ of the Mom and both daughters from Modern Family naked and covered in lube and squirt, it looked like the best photoshop I've ever seen. I mean CRAZY shit is coming.
>>533635812so this is the next psyop being astroturfed everywhere around for people to lose their money?
>>533636085how was the coffee? if it was kino beano maybe he was on to something.
>>533636085this nigga roasting BEANS
>>533637071Where do they get the data, and is it just internal data they care about? What about packaging data for them?
>>533635812Why not use the AI to learn how to code for free? It's all just glorified Google searches anyways.
>>533635812I figured this was the next step. >Let all the retards put in the leg work of giving us basically all information you could think of>WHOOPS WE NOW THINK AI IS STUPID>Sora AI Shuts down>Other AI shuts down>No more free AI 4 u>That will be 29.99 a month to make dancing cat videos.i dont care if your AI model goes under.
>>533635812Nah it’s classic “first hit is free” drug dealing. Companies force employees to use it then fire staff. Oops, now costs go up 500%, 1000%. What was $30/month will be $1000/mo in a few years and they’ll blame it on you for com;planing about power costs and semiconductor shortages
>>533636085Who gives a shit if a logo isn't hand drawn? Half the small time shops around me use goddamn bitmojis as their logo. Who cares.
>>533637071I worked for a company that went public the last couple years and did a lot of shaking in its market. Out of nowhere AI implementation was added to our core goals, probably for government funding. It's crazy how much of a buzzword it is with investors.
Adobe and microsoft are going to suffer massively these companies rely on workflow and licensing but when AI starts using free open source that is more complex but you dont need to pay for it and the complexity doesnt matter because its not humans using them Hollywood is also finished, all editing/post production is going to be automated very soonfinance is going to take a massive hit, Sachs is already deving a backroom system for trading that will put thousands out of workthe pricing is an attempt to stop the huge impact on work marketsits also to try and keep to the budgets that have already been priced in before the Iran shit that has pretty much tripled costs in energy and supply chainsperfect storm of fuckery all across the board that everyone is playing catch up with
>>533637419https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo
>>533641686alsothere can only be a couple of winners, maybe only 1 in the AI marketthere will be a breakthrough at some point that will undermine all other attempts to keep upit will probably be in better utilization of hardware
>>533636812>this technology is like 2 years old"AI" has been a thing that has been studied by the government since the 60s and MIT labs since the 70s; the FBI office in D.C. had a mail robot rolling around each floor to deliver mail and train its pathing, and this was in the 80s. They've continued to develop it since then and try to make it more efficient with less resources, but it has still hit another wall, which is why every company is trying to force use cases for it within their organizations to make something back on the massive investments in recent years, and Anthropic has had to make Claude less efficient than it was to match resource usage that doesn't speed up their bankruptcy any further (while charging out the ass for it now). The business model that anon is talking about has been pretty standard for relatively new technologies like this, especially now with so much money poured into the industries behind it.
Soon AI is going to be more expensive than a human, especially if we are talking about a developper from IndiaClaude is fucking mega expensive already, every line of code costs you many tokens that you have to pay for, even when his code is shit
I've given on Claude completely. Sit there waiting for minutes while it decides if you're trying to hurt its feelings before giving a retarded answer.Just get Unslothed, and use the latest Gemma 4b. It's completely free, trivial to setup, even for most anons here, and gives better responses than Claude's across the board.
>>533642648also thiswho has 15 minutes to wait for this retard to give you an answerlast time i was training for a microsoft cert and i told him to create me a little quizz on a particular topic, usually it takes 3 seconds for Gemini to create the quizz platform and the questionClaude started creating an app to create quizz i had to stop him because i saw him coding something and when i told him "why are you coding an app you bozzo, just make a quizz" he started creating lines of code again at this moment i closed the window and never went there againGemini is way better and free
>>533637071>my business will be left behindI can't blame them for not wanting to at least dip a finger into something, since there's plenty of examples of successful businesses who didn't properly pivot into new markets and lost their market dominance or just went down as a result, but FOMO resulting in similar troubles isn't talked about enough; if you don't have a plan on how this new technology will benefit you to justify its investment costs, and not just be a money sink, then you're better off doing more homework until you find one or a point down the line when it actually will benefit you. They likely know they can make some money back from taxpayer money and move some of that investment money around, if it doesn't pan out, since they see examples like an unknown, niche shoe manufacturer getting investments into their failing company, that shot their market value up 800%, just for saying "we're gonna, like, use AI and build GPU farms as a hardware as a service business model." Short term gains, regardless of the long term, is the game now.
Real sociedad president askednai if they should hire a guy that was indicated as coachAi said no.He hired the guy aniway and won a title
>>533635812$100 a month is still very reasonable, unlike you broke polcels, developers usually are middle class and have money..............
>>533637024The cheapest way for more high bandwidth vram are rtx 3090s.
>>533635910Yet with all this investment and insane costs, supply is low. Its just not worth it.
>>533641115This. There have been people who have said this exact thing was going to happen for over a couple of years now, and it's not because they're spooky oracles, but because it's pretty standard, especially when you know how much money was being invested into these companies and how much they were losing this entire time and being propped up with government (taxpayer) money. Walmart loses tons of money when they move into a very new area and create a need by undercutting all of the local competition, but once they have the hook in, they then raise their prices and make up for it, plus more; it's not a new business model, and it's not even exclusive to tech. Anthropic has been unsustainable at their current levels of pricing and resource usage, so they've scaled back the efficiency of Claude and raised the price for its use, once everyone is hooked onto these cloud-based, large scale models for their convenience (and these companies get value in the form of testing and training data from their customers).
>>533643093>developers usually are middle class and have money..............These companies know every bit of information you enter and code their LLM generates for you, so hope it's nothing you intend to make money off of or something that can compete with them in any way.
Today I opened up Claude and asked it some questions anyone in my field would understand and be able to figure out quickly. It made multiple critical mistakes in the span of 30 minutes and then admitted it started making stuff up, furiously apoligizing in that annoying LLM manner.I love reading the cope from virgins on this site who think this will somehow replace competent people any time soon. Did you retards really buy the desperate marketing from LLMs CEOs? Maybe in 50 years when the tech actually reaches reliability beyond a bipolar woman or child when it comes to work output.
>THE AI BUBBLE IS BURSTING>IS GONNA BURRRRRRSSSTTTTTTTTTTTT>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>IT'S OVER>THERE WILL NOT BE ANY AI IN TWO WEEKS>LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>533643959It's been completely lobotomized. You have to work from claude code with a claude.md and in that you need to specify all the default behaviours you don't want it to do. Even then, free chatgpt web gives better answers in every situation I've tired--and instantly. It's completely broken right now.
>>533636360If you need a laptop, an internet connection and AI to roast coffee beans in a truck, you're either A.) not fit to run a coffee business or B.) retarded.This "bArIsta" sounds like both.
>>533635910Very unlikely. AI is barely beyond the "early adopter" stage, the price gouging starts once peopel have started depending on your product in full and theres enough customers that you can afford to shed those who won't pay. AI is still an investment bubble, majorly carried by GCC money, who just pulled out every cent as they need to fight for survival now.
>>533636360He has MORE effort, retard. Nothing of what that poster described contributes to his business in a meaningful way while adding cosst and effort. Except usning Gen AI for the branding, but thats a once off.
>>533636374>of VRAMI wish someone made a "slow AI" system that grab the same safetensors&co files than regular AI system do, but run them on the CPU in multithreading - with pause/save/continue for big gens.I don't really care if it's x10 or x20 times slower and on the GPU, most of my AI use-cases is having other shit to do in the meantime anyway. I can wait on it, it would be just like pinging a colleague on Slack and waiting for him to answer.
>>533644134there has been a pattern of this over the last >2 weeksall free AI services have been restricting usesomething is going on and it all happened after that headline about the recent Claude model being dangerous
>>533635910Claude code is overpromised slop. Demand isn't there.
>>533636085What a petty retard you are.
>>533635812>>533635910The AI boom is slowing down and my guess is that Anthropic, among others, are looking for ways to achieve positive net revenue. They can't live on hype forever.
>>533635812>THE AI BUBBLEcope. Get shit on.
>>533644340I reckon this will be what changes the gameAI is really inefficient at utilizing hardware
>>533644512Same shit as what happened to internet dating, only faster because the initial investment was bigger.The investors who put in cash two years ago want to see a return, so they need to squeeze customers and start monetizing hardcore, whether they can or not. They AI hype will still be carried by inertia for a whie, but I expect it to disappear in a year or two.
>>533644134>It's been completely lobotomized.It has. Claude's current iteration has worse performance than its previous ones, because overall resource usage wasn't decreasing enough to be cost efficient for them; Anthropic is losing too much money in operating costs with their current price plans and in the ratio between the LLM's performance (without lobotomies) and resource usage. These data centers eat through the lifespan of hardware in serving users faster than the income from service plans can keep up, along with the costs for energy and other resources needed to run them. This is why these niggers are buying up all of the newly produced hardware in the world market and storing it, while trying to push data centers everywhere (and if that doesn't work out, they're still serviceable for surveillance, which doesn't have to be perfect, since the burden falls on the people who get charged with any shit these systems help accuse them of, and there's no real repercussions for law enforcement/the government when they get it wrong).
>>533644647AI is here to staywellright up to the point that it destroys the internet and cryptothere is a constant battle between AI generated virus/hacks/crypto hackingSecurity researchers cant keep up, these models just through iteration will come up with something massively destructive sooner or later
>>533635910It's just going to drive poorer people away from the product.They're trying to restrict access so younger or less skilled developers can't vibemaxx some competitive products into markets in ways the techkikes can't control.
>>533636085>using gen ai to make business logos, to me, is like using stock photos and music and clipart tier for a high school powerpoint presentationLogo creation and disenfranchising leftist graphic designers is one of the few valid use cases for AI
>>533644833Didn't deny that, LLMs will stick around as a more or less useful tool. I completely fail to see how a verbose google search machine would "destroy" anything. Even a stochastic parrot has its uses, and its fairly decent for sorting through Excel sheets. Nifty.
>>533635910I have yet to meet anyone that pays for any of these llms. I don't even sign up or login with Google. I literally just find a free Chinese one
>>533636085>all the means of every accessory in a business' promotion are in the hands of the young no-capital entrepreneur, costminning and optimaxxing his revenue and expedience in incremental improvements to his promotion>lament that this guy isn't dependent on banker Jews and artsy faggots in any wayWew.By the way, those dirt cheap blasé logos you see in the high street that are allegedly so artsy and hip because real people made them?Those are straight font type texts without any graphic design whatsoever as if AI generated them.Image generation is more creative right now than the creative sector, and you know damned well why that is.The truly creative people aren't going to art college to get marketable degrees in graphic design. They know that's a dead market.The most creative people in the world are those who start their own business. They're taking business degrees and specialisms to market.
>>533644512>Positive net revenueIf only there was a common financial term this
>>533635812>prosumerdystopian lingo
>>533637024Just get a MacBook, you can use MLX models and run things 16x faster than CPU or even GPUAlso unified ram means you have ~96GB of ram to play with. An equivalent GPU setup would cost $20k
>>533644208Clearly he can roast beans just fine.He's using tech to improve his products and services. That's all it is.>>533637024I'm kinda surprised they haven't bothered with VRAM expansion cards.The latency would be iffy but you can easily use the SLI bridge to hook up another 8, 16, 24, 32, 48 or 64GB of VRAM.Nvidia are properly retarded for not doing this. They've got tonnes of deep-fried sand to sell, but this is a no-brainer for the clients who already have the compute.Memory is the biggest bottleneck in the whole chain and this would fix it. Holy fuck. AMD too they're fucking retarded as well.
My GF left me for ai persona after 11 years
ai bubble exploding doesn't mean it'll disappear retardbros. If anything it will become a better product after they dump stupid promises and focus on more specialised better scoped stuff for businesses
>>533645042In the use of agentic AI, this is the whole claws thing, you can create an agent to apply iterations of code, so you can set up virtual machines and try hacking them for example, completely free of human interaction.The crypto thing relies on an algorithm (ECDLP-256) AI WILL eventually crack it, its inevitable
>>533645296They'd profit from that, clearly not their intention
>>533635812Price of the brick is going up
>>533645474Its about 10k, but mac studios are better
>>533636089im not training anything if im running the LLM locally you tater
>>533645166Women do because they're too retarded to understand the nonsense they hallucinate.
>>533636773>ERPlol that is pathetic
>>533645529any and all hacks that ai could apply are from already existing ones in its data set. breaking algorithms doesn't work that way airetardbro, you need new information/entropy
>>533637391what if it blue screens and bites yur dick off?
>>533645712Not when my balls are full
>>533635910the end goal will be to charge per token, that's exactly where this is heading. if they don't charge per token the economics will never ever work
>>533645722I love being lectured by those that dont have a clueAI doesnt need to stop learning, it can learn from data sets you task it to keep indexed after its produced, it can download and refer to every zero day bug thats announced and then chain it thousands of times with other bugs against systems like Cisco etc that run most of the worlds firewalls, so you basically take every Cisco bug in existence and try millions of different combinations of those bugs to see if you can get what results you wantusing agentic models you can do this with very little interaction
>>533635812>FINISH YOUR SLOP WHILE YOU CANI just finished my 100% local & data sovereign claude code with qwen3.6 backend. They cannot take that from me.
>>533645587>about $10kwhat system can you get for about 10k that have 128GB ram? Closest I can find is two 48gb RTX6000 for $6300 each, and then you need the rest of the system>but mac studios are betterIt's the same computer in a different package, although you can get more memory and a better processor due to bigger power supply
>>533635812Claude Code is the closest thing to a programmer AI has produced so far. $100 a month is cheaper than dirt for what it makes. Imagine paying someone $1200 all year.
>>533645497Nvidia seems intent to completely abandon the consumer market in favor of data centers
>>533645902I want to say one of these companies (Anthropic or Open AI) already did a little run of that with their enterprise customers, and the bills these companies were getting were insane. Token usage would add up fast, especially with mistakes on either end or the LLM returning something useless, both in costs to the user and in resource usage for the providers. It's going to be much cheaper in business use and much more secure for these companies to just use local or some variety of their own enterprise-wide systems, since these service companies can just yank this shit out from under them at any time. But, these businesses keep outsourcing every bit of their operations, fucking over and/or firing internal teams, and then panicking when the central company they all rely on goes down for a day and doesn't give a shit to focus exclusively on their special company's operations to get back up and running over any of their other customers.
>>533646391How does Microsoft and Nvidia keep breaking their own shit to unimaginable levels after they bragged about relying primarily on AI and "vibe coding" to do their jobs? Things are bad enough with the current business model of 40 Indians and 2 competent developers to clean up their diarrhea mess; 10 Indians with "AI" to replace the 2 competent devs and 30 other Indians is going to be even worse. These tools would be great if businesses would actually use them in their appropriate use-cases to make their competent employees more efficient, rather than using them as exclusive replacements for competency to save an extra shekel.
>>533646421Memory add-in boards would help the datacentres too.Not every slot needs to have a top-spec silicon cookie in the middle.If they can't physically fit the memory, they should make JBOM boxes. (JBOD but memory instead of disks)I know their only priority right now is getting Palantir the datacentres they need, that consumer use of AI is nothing but a tax write-off for them even through the other central AI vendors.Even those clients need more memory than the board support. Might as well make a JBOMb.
>>533646421They can't justify shitting out new cards with minimal improvements and insane price tags, since we've hit a wall on economical costs of overall advancements and many people stick with their older cards because it still serves their needs, so they can be providers to an industry that eats their product rapidly with a need for every minor bit of advancement anyone can justify, and helps towards a new business model of hardware as a service, with data centers to support that infrastructure; now you have no choice but to always pay an ever increasing subscription for their newest cards, because you can't have a physical one, goy ;^), and the government will support us, because it makes mass surveillance easier when you own nothing, and have no local hardware to rely on.
>>533646207nigger thinks encryption algorithms are just code lol. This is midwit level understanding of computer science and math. At best you can find exploits in implementation
>>533646657>the bills these companies were getting were insane. that is precisely why they will never ever make money with the current free and paid subscription structures>It's going to be much cheaper in business use and much more secure for these companies to just use local or some variety of their own enterprise-wide systems, since these service companies can just yank this shit out from under them at any timethat's probably the game plan for a lot of these data centers and hyperscalers, they'll middle man the computer for industry since it's cost prohibitive to do it in house for the vast majority
>>533647591Encryption algorithms are just math and they are based on the assumption that the computational effort required to go one way is harder than the other. Many encryption algorithms have been depricated as advances in mathematics and technology have made calculating the encryption key easier.
>>533647591everything is code retardeverythingyour failure to understand that pretty basic premise speaks volumes
>>533647926>everything is code retard>everything>your failure to understand that pretty basic premise speaks volumes
>>533645166The entire experience is in running these models locally inside of workflows. If you’re a tradie or work retail or something yes the free chatbots are fine but if you’re in sales, engineering, marketing, sciences, anything then you need to learn how to incorporate AI to stay relevant and free Chinese chatbots are not incorporated. Same way every job eventually needed to learn computers for a time, now the gap between those who use AI and who don’t is growing exponentially. I have a coworker who was making manual changes to a testing DB then manually running scripts against it to verify. He has access to premium AI seat just like I do but refuses to use it because he’s a boomer. His output is the same as it always was but other DB guys who learned how to use AI in their workflows now complete 1 day of boomer work in 10 minutes, and they’re already working on the next thing while it churns. When it comes time to measure performance for raises or layoffs what is management to do? And it isn’t just about getting the work done, it’s about building automated deterministic processes and tooling to solve the problem permanently. I hate fake and gay globohomo but people need to understand that their work is being commodified rapidly. You are no longer an artisan and the relevance of your skill at the task is scaling down rapidly. In this way I envy the trades. It looks fucking bleak but your best chance is to become a really good AI jockey and $100/mo to guarantee your employability is nothing. I think that’s their angle. That’s the new value proposition
>>533636085you are obsolete, neanderthal. the world has moved on and left you behind.
>>533648032Or learn cobol never in my life did I think I would ever write or say that
>>533645722Mythos supposedly found novel and multi-step chainable exploits across dozens of codebases. I agree there is nothing to “crack” with that algorithm, it’s a mathematical and logical statement with known limits. But there could in theory be a novel way around implementations of the algorithm. Are there unknown unknowns? I’m not smart enough to say. But as much as LLMs are overhyped I think we will be surprised if we categorically rule out too much
>>533648291Kek. I actually did take a course in COBOL in the 2010s in college. Professor taught it as a “programming archaeology” course. Wouldve killed to have gotten one of those cushy maintenance gigs, COBOL has so much soul
>>533648450Junior cobol positions are starting to appear back in the job marketfor a LOT of moneythey are needed to check the massive volume of legacy translation using AI
>>533648291>>533648450>>533648560>blocks you're path https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/ibm-stock-takes-a-13-percent-whiplash-after-anthropic-announces-an-ai-tool-for-writing-cobol-code-stock-has-worst-day-since-2000-and-is-down-25-percent-mom-and-counting
>>533644208it's business it doesn't matter if it makes sense in the core. It only matters if you're standing out. Also there's more to it than just roasting beans. There's coffee and coffee. If AI helps the guy to grow a client base - good for him>>533644323ok, boomer
>>533636085>however he i noticed he had his roaster connected to a laptop and he was analyzing the roasting data with some software
>>533648684kekthats retarded, it will take years upon years to get away from cobola knee jerk reaction from investors that dont know shit about the issuethe conversions are painfully slow, they have to be trialed to death before implemented
>>533645042Supposedly new model of Claude found hundreths of zero day critical exploits in various services (something which takes humans years) and it's just the beginning.
>>533636085That’s the neat stuff about stochastical leanguage models: they always hallucinate seemingly useful data from actually non-useful data. Did you catch up? Now he can probably talk for hours about how remarkable his grilling data is and what he „learned“. Maybe avoid him.
IDK what people are expecting.If this is a tool that can generate you untolds money, and make you so much more productive, it could be worth that... You're hypothetically leveraging a massive computer system w\ processing power that you could never afford on your own. Or that's the current way they want people to think. $100 a month seems a lot if you're trying to fuck around and make cat videos, but some people are trying to create entire businesses and tons of other stuff.The bubble is yet to burst... it's entirely possible it's a huge scam. They're erecting massive datacenter complexes across the united states. I stated this in a thread yesterday and a datacenter anon chimed in to confirm my suspicious that many datacenters are NOT AT CAPACITY... and many are scraping by offering hosting services to indian scammers to try to make ends meet.SO, the huge question is if you already have datacenters, why would you spend billions erecting massive complexes of datacenters? The project is truly incomprehensible. They're trying to bring on more processing power than has ever existed. And what then?But if it's a scam, you got the government putting billions into this, they are creating a ton of short term jobs as these things get built. But then what happens? Are all of those datacenters going to succeed? How many run out of money? Maybe in 5 years we have a bunch of failed datacenter complexes as tech continues to shrink, and become more powerful thus making the scale of this even more absurd.
>>533648322That's kinda scary if you've seen the show mr robot. That show is likely more relevant now than ever. Bad actors likely have all these tools, and it's a matter of time before there's mass weaponization.
>>533645166>it's realkekbut when you click "dive deeper" it retracts that statement. The AI version for the search bar is a lightweight one. I think I read somwhere it consumes like 1/10th of power of even the free prompts in actual AI
>>533636085AI will be overhyped until investor money runs dry, wich is soon. They will write off billions because that thing is worth a tenth (best case) of what they made up. Business valuation is worse than astrology and boomers are easily fooled by promises about things they don’t understand. But when the hype is done another comes, always does.
>>533636085He's salesmaxing, i would invest in that maniac if it wasn't 2026. Reddit loves niggas like him.
>>533648032The anti AI crowd is the most pathetic and embarrassing thing ever. It wasn’t that weird to oppose personal computers when they first came out because it wasn’t apparent to most people how it could improve productivity. At this point we’ve seen this pattern play out so many times and we have more obvious examples of improved productivity with AI. Not getting on board is so retarded I hope these people are socially ostracized in the long term but of course they won’t be just like people pushing woke struggle sessions in the summer of Floyd will never be held accountable.
>>533649071Its more likely to be an accidentAI recoding is a thing nowThis will hopefully never happen but there is a possibility that in recoding systems using cobol or fortran to use java for example a core element could be missed or introduced, say a backdoor for ease of access that the AI puts in because it doesnt understand the danger and whomever is checking the recode misses it
>>533649132Lmao POST THE WEBM! Empty Titanic pool needs to become a hate meme, otherwise they will never fix it.Ask if jews control their bladders for more keks
>>533649861>>533645166>>533649132Sorry I am a blind retard, here it is. I fucking love this webm
>>533648032>His output is the same as it always was but other DB guys who learned how to use AI in their workflows now complete 1 day of boomer work in 10 minutes, and they’re already working on the next thing while it churns.You sweet summer child. Lets say you work for a gigaboomer who asks how you did it, and you are honest and say "i used AI to automate countless tasks" Then he, being an analog boomerhead goes and spends the next four months vibecoding your entire solution and discovering the entire data-repository system. He reinvents the wheel and recreates himself the full "stack" or whatever the shit you are using. He finally reaches the end, calls you up on the phone and says.>aktually you are right, that was pretty smart, but I just did your job for you, i'd like 4 months compensation, bye. That's the reality anon. This >increased productivityIsn't anything more than everyone learning what a giant fuckoff mess computers are. >be a jockey with AIThis is bullshit, all the value of business stuff is still rubber stamps held by niggers, all the value of Digital stuff is going to be dictated by reddit account littlemiss_gigauser_420 (absolutely not monopoly number three) and anything physical is going to be the gods favorite suicidal wrench turner.
>>533649492AGI is impossible tech bro. give it up.
>>533650278You forgot to mention the part where said boomer only produces reams of useless trash, because he has no clue , has ot blindly rely on the AI and rtherefore can't even properly promt said AI to correct its mistakes. The en di s apile of at best barely functional slop code that is useless for any professional application. Current AI is nowhere near the stage where you could rely on it for a task without heavily micromanaging and knowing about the subject matter.
>>533650328No one’s talking about AGI dumbass
>>533649492>the anti mask and vax crowd is the most pathetic and embarrassing....ah nevermind im not going to retype your whole post. you get the drift
>>533650698It seems pretty obvious this whole "AI" thing deletes centuries of justification for "labor" and "capital" relations.In the days of the boomer the CEO made so much more because>he was just worth it lol! Bootstraps goyem! AI deletes that barrier. A goy with a terminal, or even just someone who can read an article by someone who has a terminal can clearly point to an entity that is more professional and honest than any CEO or investor nigger. Which directly implies to even the dumbest most deranged 60 IQ retard the following question.>why the fuck is CEO-Investor rich instead of me.And there is no answer besides birthrights and wrongs.Which was my point but you appear to have missed it. The goal of the owners of capital remains the extermination of competition.
>>533635812Codefags will pay it. They can't do their job without it at this point.
>>533645722you do realize that's already damaging enough right? there are countless services hosted by governments, hospitals, small companies, utilities companies, etc running on outdated vulnerable shit, it's just most of these have no financial incentive to be targeted, or the effort is simply not worth the possible return and that's just with existing CVEs and existing attack vectors, it's not far fetched to use an LLM to implement a functioning attack vector by just scraping for newly released POCs and spraying and prayingnow the guy thinking LLMs are gonna break encryption is obviously retarded, but the danger is very real, one could easily set up a small swarm of such agents hooked up to shodan and metasploits and another agent that scrapes for POCs and tries to produce new attack vectors for the swarm to use, and there are plenty of services that give away slow but free tokens stilljailbreaking the "uuuh this is malware sounds illegal i won't help" refusal is as easy as stating these are internal services for pentesting, the only way for the models to refuse that too is to cut off the already fairly large sector of "AI" "cybersecurity", so they won'tthe time is coming
>>533636085>all these replies11/10 shitpost my friend, stay based
>>533649201The value is in competent people being able to run permutations they wouldn’t normally explore because of resource (time) optimization. Which can be valuable, but not at the scale where everyone is using AI
>>533635812Everything is going subscription, it is profitable and society is being programmed to accept it. Techniggers want to expand subscription software so they start calling their software AI to impress the midwits and claim only they have the hardware to run it. This shit isn’t complicated.
>>533636580>big tech, investors and kiked media tell everyone to throw out your existing work flow and fire most of your staff and adopt Ai or perisha few year later...>now pay us more than the staff you fired rubes or your Ai reliant business will perish
>>533654924>and society is being programmed to accept it.Except piracy has become bigger again because people are getting annoyed by the sheer number of subscriptions they have to have to watch their favorite tv shows. At least cable used to give you all the channels in one big package.
>>533645474>Just get a MacBook, you can use MLX models and run things 16x faster than CPU or even GPUWhats the catch and why does nobody do it?
>>533645506There's a story there. Wanna share?
>>533645474I used to be a lifelong PC faggot until windows11. and win10 was awful enough. The apple M chipset sold me and I wont be going back soon. Can't believe shit has come to this.
