why do lower middle class retards hate communism so much? "red scare" psyops haven't been mainstream for like 70 years.
Because communism is gay and Jewish.
>I've worked diligently for what little I've earned and need to justify that all my years of hard work were worth it>We can't just make things easier for stupid and lazy people and give things to poor people for free, it's not fair
>>533637394national socialism is the best. but between communism and capitalism, i'd rather have communism.
>>533637290>Google Marx>Click on Wikipedia>click on Early life;)
>>533637290>why do people that pay taxes hate retards that don't pay taxes and want more free shit?FTFY.
>>533637406if you worked for years and have little to show for it then you didn't work very hard and your work isn't worth its weight in shit, meaning you are one of the stupid and lazy people.
>>533637394This but your picrel is also gay and jewish.
>>533637290The problem is all leftists are hypocrites who refuse to suffer for the things they want. A lot of times they even think murder sufficiently outsources the suffering needed to change for the better.
>>533637452like 40% of american tax filers pay $0 in federal income tax. the people i'm referring to in my OP likely only pay a few percent in state and local income tax and sales tax.
>>533637290Due to their indoctrination and programming as children obviously
>>533637290South Africa says hello.
>>533637290You can be left when it comes to economics and conservative when it comes to social issues and that's not a contradiction in the slightest. In fact, that's what I am. HAVING SAID THAT, straight up communism doesn't work. I think that capitalism is an evil monster, but rather than killing it, we need to tame it. Capitalism should be highly regulated, certain industries need to be state owned entirely and we need to tax the rich until they hurt. This is easier said than done because if you tax the rich too much they have the means to pack their bags and leave.
>>533637585you're probably not too far off the mark. and really, what's the difference between communism as it has been implemented (soviet union) and highly regulated state capitalism (china)? in both cases there are clear hierarchies, with party favorites benefiting from """the means of production""" but only to the extent that they remain in good graces with the party.
>>533637290Globohomo communism where world councils are just corpo vice presidents of marketing. communism is a spook.fancy words for the day dreamer. capitalism is an even bigger spook.
because it was attempted and failed, multiple times, in different countriesit failed as an economic theory and as a political structure
>>533637290Name a functioning example of latge scale communism that didnt end in starvation or purges
>>533637463that's a fairytale you can keep telling yourself but that's not how the world works. Either you never achieved anything or never competed in anything that matters.
>>533637963i advanced my career from $55k/yr to $150k/yr in just 8 years. i'm still a wageslave (and i don't believe in capitalism in general) but i am moderately successful.
>>533637290It sounds nice in theory if you just say it's giving struggling people more help. But as far as I can tell a lot of communists are actually people who want to be violent dictators which is recommended by some prominent communist icons, or people who don't realize they're asking for other people to be their slaves so they can do whatever they want instead of working. Are there any communist countries for the lower middle class retards to look at and say they want to be there instead? They mostly seem worse off. "Fully automated luxury communism" is probably something more people might get behind but that's not what most people talking about communism are endorsing.
>>533637290The type of communism we are afraid of is from the elite and they will work us to death for even smaller guarantees. They will do it to maintain control. As you can see in the WH we have guys who will not do right for us in order to maintain power. So thats an even worse problem in “communist” society.
>>533637290>obvious loser baitLeaving aside the fact that all communist activists are anti-nationalist kikes or crypto-kikes, in my shithole when communism was imposed by the vatnik kikes, the first thing they did was to torture and kill all nationalists, so now, 70 years later, we have a nation of absolute cucks.
>>533637290You can do voluntary communism any time you like niggerIf you choose to avoid voluntary communism while advocating for compulsory communism, it becomes quite obvious that your motive is taking other people's shit, rather than sharing your own.
>>533637585>>533637824If you two were ever in the same room you would try to kill each other. It's plain to see you both want to be the one who's listened to.
>>533640309it only works when others buy-in. kind of like capitalist nationals forcing your labor market participation via central banking and immigration.
Communists raped Germany to death and put a brutal end to the gentile uprising, effectively dooming the world forever. Their modern incarnations exist entirely as furries, transgenders, various forms of autistic porn addicts and resentful third worlders. They must never be forgiven for what they have done and their degeneracy is killing the world
>>533637290Why is people advocating for communism always members of other race in someone elses country? Mainly shitskins in White countries. Even original communists were just like this, they were all jews.Marx, Trotsky, Lenin, all JEWISH.The attempted German revolution by jews during WW1 that lost them the war is conveniently forgotten in kiked history books as the reason why jews needed to be put in camps so they wouldn't attempt it again in WW2.>Jews sabotaged Germany during WW1 and started a civil warIt happened in 1918 and lasted nearly a year. German jews led an army of communists attempting to establish a communist nation in Germany during the crucial months of WW1. Countless German lives were lost and nationwide chaos exploded because of the jewish subversion. Thus, WW1 was lost.Now do you understand why jews were treated the way they were in Nazi Germany? They had to be controlled or they would start ANOTHER civil war and kill millions of innocent German citizenshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Levihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Levinehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_LuxemburgSimilar attempts happened all over Europe, people even think that the Bolsheviks just "gave" Finland its independence, when in reality the kikes instigated a Red revolution here too and we fought the bolsheviks for the independence>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_WarBut unlike in Russia, the Whites won. And that's why Winter War happened, because the bolsheviks tried again.Not to mention that interning potentially hostile people is completely normal procedure, America did it to their Japanese as a precaution even when the Japanese had not instigated a revolution like the jews did. Only difference no one was bombing their supply lines so the Nips didn't starve in the camps. Situation in Germany was quite different, everything was leveled in the biggest race treason in history.
>>533637290So how about you go back to your brown country and advocate for communism there?What is to you if we Whites have National Socialism in our countries, you can have communism in your own brown country with your own brown people. We don't care if India or Somalia or Israel or wherever you're from has communism, go ahead, do it!Oh but you mean that White countries should have communism and you should be allowed to walk on White soil and steal from White people, right? That is what you mean, that White countries should have communism, instead of you going home and having communism there, correct?
>>533641174>>533641254hey mister slant eyed snow nigger, when you're talking to a white man (me) you'd best show some respect.
>>533637290>why do lower middle class retards hate communism so muchBecause no welfare checks in that system
>>533637290Because communism made us living among non-whites who hate us, make our lives a hell and are becoming more numerous. It's easy to support that garbage ideology without living the consequences of it.
>>533641609But you're a nigger. No one respects you.
>>533637290Why do pampered upper middle class faggots think we'll listen to their bullshit?
>>533637290Because despite all of the hating rich people rhetoric, most of the people killed by communism are kulaks.
>>533637290It's just a buzzword for them. They don't actually know what communism means.All they know is that whenever they curse communism they get a dopamine hit from other equally ignorant people's rallying cry of support. It's a 'call and response' type affair.It was drilled deep into American and to a lesser extent British psyches from the McCarthyism era.Also they think it's a Russian/Chinese ideology when it literally originated from ideas that sprung from the French revolution (Liberte, Fraternite, Egalite), the same ideas that were instrumental to the founding of the US (France sponsored and lent robust military support to help the US achieve independence and liberation).It's not farfetched to say the US has deeper ties to communism than China or Russia does. They merely adopted it. The US was born in it, molded by it.
>>533637290Communism is how you strip a population of it's motivation to succeed. It is societal cancer.
>>533642569Everyone is completely demoralized across the capitalist world right now
>>533642750There is no capitalist world you retarded commie.
>>533637463Then why exactly do you give a fuck about the working class?Theyre degenerate losers that cant accomplish anything by you own logic
>>533637290Side politics infighting is a tactic by the elites, AKA jews, to make the goyim to fight each other. Communists are retarded, just like Koshervatism or "Liberals".
If the goal of a commie was to be a blue collar worker I would care more. Instead they all just want to be bureaucrats so they can lick my ass.
>>533637290Because all your communist plans will make my life worse.You keep claiming you aren't going to target middle class people, but you always target middle class people.
>>533637290the downwardly mobile middle class exist to be thrown into the fire to save the bourgeoisie,they have been breed,trained and conditioned for this one task.
>>533637290Communism is anti liberalism rather than being anti capitalism and actually has no solutions for modern society other than vague allusions to a utopia
>>533641780your country (and all western capitalist nations) import browns because they're cheap slave labor. when a communist country imports browns, they exist as slaves to be worked to death and segregated from society.
>>533644028https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdrjzE1SE58
>>533642020>Because despite all of the hating rich people rhetoric, most of the people killed by communism are kulaks.Exactly, it always has been nothing more than rhetoric.The problem with Tsarist Russia is that the Tsars hated jews and didn't allow them into Russia proper anywere near power and wealth, in fact they were forced to reside in this area called "pale of settlement" at the periphery of the russian empire ranging from modern-day ukraine to east of poland.But jews wanted wealth and they wanted power so they instigated the communist revolution using the populace being angry at the rollback of reforms by the very unpopular alexander III, the one before nicholas II who ended up taking the wrath of the kike-agitated peasantry due to no fault of his own really.Obviously monarchies are a bad system considering that it doesnt matter if you have 100 good monarchs, one bad one can fuck it all up, its stupid to put so much power in hands of one person because that person can be retarded and/or evil.But then what jews offered the solution to it was killing their monarchs and handing the power over to jews which is utterly fucking retarded.NatSoc is the only ideology that actually makes sense, what needs to be done is simply drive out all the other races then its truly possible to work together for a better future without there always being some other group trying to vye for their own interest against the host peoples.The kikes winning WWII has been the most destructive thing happening to the world only maybe second to the times of the international slave trade where jews seeded the entire world with niggers dooming lot of the world to niggerhell
>>533637406Communists are so fucking cringe. There’s a reason there aren’t any over 30’except the most insulated academic masturbators.
>>533645183there two russian revolutions, the tsar was overthrown in the february (march) revolutoion and that one was done by liberals, and was supposed to turn russia into a democractic republic, and most of the february revolutionaries were not jewish but russian liberalsthe bolsheviks took power by force in october. and they were mostly jewish, polish or baltic
>>533637585>capitalism is an evil monsterA literal infant’s view of politics
>>533637290Well you're simply annoying and you love browns
>>533641254The Nazis passed laws immediately disarming the populace in every place they annexed. There are entire books written on the Czech reaction to this.
>>533637290Why do "educated" midwits love it so much?
>>533645483>capitalism is a predatory entity with bad intentionsAdult politics
>>533637290maybe cuz the (((red scare))) was entirely valid and killed more people than any other ideology?
>>533645588>capitalism is an entity with intentions A literal infant’s view of politics. Or an adult with brown skin I guess
>>533637290Communism was the single most destructive ideology for average person in human history
>>533645644i find that hard to believe. jewish capitalism has enslaved billions of people.
>>533637290Both american rightist and leftists have very deep misconceptions about communism. The rightists drank the red scare koolaid and often clash with the leftists, who simply follow a completely alien ideology to global communist movements that is basically social-liberalism with a red aesthetic. There are real communists in america, like Michael Parenti and other people in the PSL, but they are rare. Much more common so see shit like red dems or DSA.
>>533640752>it only works when you take other peoples shit>we can't just share OUR OWN shit!!! Classic commie This is why everyone hates you
>>533645644If you apply the same methodology used to count 60+ million soviet deaths during the cold war, western europe by itself is at hundreds of millions of dead due to decline in fertility alone.
>>533637394Fpbp
>>533645735Communism was worse than even imagined and even despite winning ww2 propped up by usa it still collapsed in a couple of decades.
>>533637290>lower middle class retards hate communism so much? they are the weakest part of what liberal Socialists believe are "elite" so they are the ones getting sacrificed. it happened here when leftards took the New Republic in the 2000s, the left allies with the true economic elites and provide gibs to the miserable with the flesh of the middle class
>>533645473So there were three revolutions? including the 1905 one lead almost exclusively by pissed off jewish unions and communists
>>533645832>people having smaller families is the same as mass executions Great example of jewish communism which was ideology invented by jews and hence why communists always use Talmud pilpul
>>533645183Tsarist Russia was a judeo asiatic backwater that was never going to last long. No surprise it collapsed the way it did at all
>>533637290we already have communism basically, i work and pay for the existence of useless pieces of shit like you who i would rather kill
>>533646037how much do you make a year? i make $150k. you probably make a lot less and pay little to no tax.
>>533645957yes it's literally basic history book info
>>533637290All of the ismn's end up with the same types of people in charge, at least one of them has the illusion that you may be able to improve your situation
>>533646111I've had russians tell me it's illegal to speculate about the origins of the revolution and the killing of the tsar
>>533645962But that is also the reason why the death tolls in the Soviet Union are that big. The 60 million number comes from direct deaths (minority) + deaths caused by poverty + decline in birth rates (the majority of “deaths”).You would need to come up with a serious pilpul as to why this statistic should either be taken seriously or not applied to capitalist countries. Heck, japan alone is probably above 100 million deaths by now.
>>533637290why do jews consider wealth obtained by fraud to be some sort of elevation in 'class'?
>>533637290Because communism is genuinely garbage. If you read about almost any artist or philosopher from the early 20th century you see>big supporter of communism>soviet union happened>embarassed retreat to more moderate stanceThat's even how fascism and national socialism started. They were former commies who got disillusioned with communism after seeing how shit it was in practice. But they still retained their grievances with the existing capitalist systems, so they created a "third position". That's also what the Chinese ended up doing to turn their communist country into something workable.Of all the political and economic systems to ever be tried, communism is easily the biggest failure. It should be no surprise why a person of any class would dislike it.
>>533645666If capitalism doesn't want my pot of gold why they pester me so much about it's location?
>>533637290Because communists are retarded assholes who spend more time hurting the middle class than the rich?Communists can't tell the difference between the shift manager and the owner and since they can't get to the owner, they kill the shift manager.
>>533645903The soviet union was dissolved by a coup d’état that was the culmination of a decade-long plot started at the end of the brezhnev administration. The cause for the “collapse” was a financial crisis which reduced the soviet yearly growth to 4% real gdp growth, per CIA estimates…
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>>533637491Labor didn't get taxed until communists came along with their "It will only hurt the rich, we promise" bullshit.And what did they do? They made up these tax brackets and brag about "In the 1950s, we taxed at 90%", yeah, for people making (inflation adjusted) 5 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
>>533646185if capitalism is good then why does it reward this behavior, and why do perpetrators of this fraud run your life in government and in private industry?
>>533646169Communism is politically correct extremism so you get killed for not being PC which is contemporary leftist wet dream they have always been faggots.
>>533637290probably because modern day communists tend to believe in racial retribution against whites. you faggots certainly tolerate it at the absolute minimum.all you had to do was make it about class but you couldn't even get that right
>>533646322The ussr collapsed because it was a judeo communist corrupt shithole mafia which still controls Russia federation today. Russia has not had a single non jewish communism leader since the revolution
>>533637290> Why does the proletariaat who produces all labour hate the petty bourg cityfag foreverchildren upper middle class who wants dominion over them foreverYeah crazy, almost as if subhuman softhand feminine fags literally deserve nothing but slavery forever
>>533646166you're retarded
>>533646166>>533646111I thought Putin added Solzhenitsyn to the required reading list of russian high schools. Gulag archipelago rather than 300 years together, but still.
>>533646441Wrong. Communism was invented by a spiteful jew it was always about rotting out and destroying white nations and communities. Class does not exist this is a jewish fairy tale invented to insert themselves into other racial communities and turn them against each other
>>533646485these people still control your life under capitalism just fyi. people like me (middle managers under capitalism) would be making your life a living hell under communism (as middle level party bureaucrat.)
>>533646488i finished school a long while ago but i can assure you, gulag archipelago is NOT read or studied in schools, and it's not just because of censorship but also because the education system is so dysfunctional teachers don't get to properly teach the 20th century
>>533646395>If horses are good, why did one of them kick me in the face?Capitalism with *some* restraint is good. Communism is just eating the horse.
>>533646606History classes in the US are a joke and they basically skip the whole 20th century too I wonder what the world governments don't want people to know
>>533646610capitalism with a lot of restraint might be good. china is a good example of this. remember when jack ma disappeared for a few years after threatening to subvert the state?
>>533637290i have 2 rich, highly educated lesbian aunts in NYC and they voted trump for economic reasons. oh well there goes your stupid ass narrative.
>>533646479The only member of the politburo who was jewish after the great purge was kaganovich, who was self hating and personally killed many of his tribesmen. There were zero after him, coming from as much as 60% in the 1920s. There was a dispute between Stalin’s faction and the jewish faction, and Stalin won. They were also responsible for shit like the NKVD persecutions under Yagoda and the famines, but they got purged and executed.Even at the final years of the USSR, when jewish oligarchs were empowered by the government, they still didn’t dare to go into the spotlight because of the legacy of stalin’s purge.
>>533646610Communist officials are untouchable and its a gigantic mafia. Look at russia today it still maintains the largest INTERNAL glownigger apparatus in the world targeting inly their own people. Communist system depends on extremist politically correct ideology and of course blackmail and kleptokracy
>>533646710Politbiuro was a jewish concept as communism came directly from jewish communities to rot out people's homes and amass power. A multiracial globohomo ruling elite over the masses that could rape loot and murder whoever they wanted to. Stalin mass murdered more Europeans than anyone else in entire 20th century, he loved jews like Stefan Michnik who raped kids and shot women and children
>>533646606It was relatively recent. I want to say 2014, maybe? But you have better access to the information that confirms or deny this. It might have been some retarded NRx shill hallucination back when they were shilling Solzhenitsyn on the west.
>>533646955>SolzhenitsynHe omitted most of the horrible aspects of communism for example the insane amount of rape by communiat officials. Stalin himself fucked kids all the time and children were routinely forced to have sex at politbiuro gatherings etc.
>>533638054Fucking how im dying
>>533637290>lower middle classbecause even poor people recognize slavery and bait and switch scams
>>533646807You are completely disconnected from reality. There is a relationship between the jewish question and early russian communism (and elsewhere), but they are not the same thing and, like I said, jews lost the power dispute with Stalin in 36. And saying that he loved jews when the doctors plot was a thing is laughable.The relationship between revolutionary ideologies and judaism is quite complex, actually, but it would be too long of a discussion dating back to the first jewish merchant lords all the way back in the 11th century Italy and Spain.
>>533637290We could epically troll them by changing the entire system into a communist state and then putting them in a gulag
>>533637290They’re the useful idiots whilst their country gets flooded by migrants and then they cry as to why this is happening, and not because they’re cheap labor that their jewish capitalist gods want whilst they either become jobless or enjoy the lower wages
>>533647143Communism came out of jewish shetlt culture which was tailored to destroy people's homes and insert power among a clique of blackmailed political cuckolds (which most communists are) and their overlords who run basically a mafia. Jews did not lose anything, Stalin employed many jews who were even named Stalins butcher. In fact one of Stalins most insane jewish soldiers michnik only fled Poland AFTER Stalin died. Communism was devastating and destructive im glad its gone and communists should be killed in my view as they are basically left over cancer cells looking to poison people's homes. In PL we just outlawed them completely and anyone caught has been brutally beaten up
>>533647065Funny that you mention the rape accusations, because they were exposed by Simon Sebag Montefiore, a literal neoliberal zionist jew.
>>533647268Communists effectively exterminated entire groups of European people. The only reason migration happens is because communists spent all yheir energy destroying European colonies and because communism is so fucking abysmal everyone wanted to leave
>>533647276All this people who always sperg about communism being a destructive force can never post a single picture of communism doing anything
>>533637290>hate communism so much? You get no new businesses because no one wants to set one up..1..workers want to own the business that someone else built..2. everyone paid the same even though some trained to be who they are those that laze about plus have no ambition to own a company get to own that company that someone else set up so what would be the point in 1 wanting to start a company 2 why bother going to university to train to be something if those that don't train to be anything end up the same as YOU who has spent many years trainning to be something,,,what would be the point ????communism is so bad,, those that think it should be a part of human life should be HANGED for being total RETARDS....Am a SOCIALIST for the POOR not SOCIALISM for the RICH..PUBLIC MONIES GOING TO THE RICH for PUBLIC CONTRACTS that belong to the PEOPLE not the CORRUPT RICH who steal PUBLIC CONTRACTS by giving KICKBACKS to POLITICIANS..UK MPs need to DIE for HIGH TREASON along with the GERMAN RAT UK PEDO ROYALS..THEFT OF THE PUBLIC'S MONEY plus MASS MURDER OF ITS OWN PEOPLE,,,FAKE PANDEMIC.
>>533647300It was well known everywhere. Communists were often fucking young kids and driving them around in their state gifted cars. If you refused to give them your child yoi could be labeled a nazi and arrested and often killed while your child was still raped
>>533647344What are yoi talking about? Do you think communists went around photographing themselves mass murdering people or fucking kids? Maybe locked away in kgb archives protevted by russian state a lot was destroyed during the 80s of course
>>533646955most of that stuff would've been under medvedev i imagine, since his politics differed from that of putin (think of him like kruschev to stalin)i wouldn't be surprised if they took it out of the school curriculum but i haven't really kept up with the school programmes here and don't plan to.
>>533637290Because we have agency and would like to keep thinking for ourselves and not farming it out to some committee. You're never going to convince anyone communism is a good thing until you get rid of testosterone.
>>533647344>hate communism so much? You get no new businesses because no one wants to set one up..>1..workers want to own the business that someone else built..>2. everyone paid the same even though some trained to be who they are those that laze about plus have no ambition to own a company get to own that company that someone else set up so what would be the point in 1 wanting to start a company 2 why bother going to university to train to be something if those that don't train to be anything end up the same as YOU who has spent many years trainning to be something,,,what would be the point ????>communism is so bad,, those that think it should be a part of human life should be HANGED for being total RETARDS....>Am a SOCIALIST for the POOR not SOCIALISM for the RICH..>PUBLIC MONIES GOING TO THE RICH for PUBLIC CONTRACTS that belong to the PEOPLE not the CORRUPT RICH who steal PUBLIC CONTRACTS by giving KICKBACKS to POLITICIANS..>UK MPs need to DIE for HIGH TREASON along with the GERMAN RAT UK PEDO ROYALS..>THEFT OF THE PUBLIC'S MONEY plus MASS MURDER OF ITS OWN PEOPLE,,,FAKE PANDEMIC.hate communism so much? You get no new businesses because no one wants to set one up..1..workers want to own the business that someone else built..2. everyone paid the same even though some trained to be who they are those that laze about plus have no ambition to own a company get to own that company that someone else set up so what would be the point in 1 wanting to start a company 2 why bother going to university to train to be something if those that don't train to be anything end up the same as YOU who has spent many years trainning to be something,,,what would be the point ????communism is so bad,, those that think it should be a part of human life should be HANGED for being total RETARDS....
>>533647621We have a saying in Polish "on every tree instead of leaves will hang communists"
>>533647408I can find images of capitalism literally tossing people out of their houses I can find pictures of capitalist countries bombing countries murdering people, massacrating protesters, and every eveil imaginableCommunism lasted for 50 years and you can't find a picture of a communist soldier stealing a candy from a kidAm gonna abide by the rules here and if you can't post it never happened
>>533647728Good...No life ambitions with COMMUNISM...SOCIALISM means people get to do what they likes but you will be TAXED for FREE HEALTH CARE and EDUCATION for those that are not RICH as fuck who can pay for what ever they likes...Can people tell me this,,,if no tax then how do you pay for things like police, hospitals, army,,building new homes...If you keep borrowing you end up paying for the INTEREST on the loans so lose out on 1 new hospital every week because of interest on the DEBT..So if anyone has an idea how we the people make money to pay for public things without tax am all ears...If we can just print money out of thin air then why even bother taxing anyone,,,JUST PRINT THE MONEY and leave us all alone for tax..
>>533645540>The Nazis passed laws immediately disarming the populace in every place they annexedOf course they did because there was a WAR going on they were extremely paranoid of the very real threat of communist partisans.Meanwhile the actual Reich gun policy was about *relaxing* gun laws for Reich citizens, not only was a Reich citizen allowed to own a gun after they relaxed the Weimar's strict gun policies, but also encouraged to own one.In fact proper firearm use and discipline was introduced for young people too the Reich's belief was that every citizen should know how to operate a firearm.Obviously all the jews had their guns taken away, of COURSE you take away guns from your enemies.Even in America when 2A was signed to law a "citizen" meant a "free white person of good character" it was NEVER meant that guns would be given to niggers to terrorize the society with, thats utterly retarded and a jewish re-interpretation of the law to retroactively allow nonwhites to own guns after nonwhites were allowed to become citizens, it was obviously never the intention of the founding fathers because only a fucking retard would allow enemy races on your soil and then fucking arm them too.
>>533647069i'm a CPA.
>>533645705>jewish capitalism has enslaved billions of people.They are two heads of the same jewish snake. NatSoc is the one solution that isn't, that is why jews did and do the damnest that it never gets implemented in the world.In NatSoc jews would be confined to israel to live with their own kind, and only ever have what jewish labor can produce, no more stealing from other races. Jews obviously do everything they can to prevent that including plunging the world into a world war.
>>533637290Okay OP. Answer me this question.How is value determined?
>>533647951The kgb exterminated wrong think they didnt record it. Even katyn massacre they tried to pin in Germans until the files leaked. Communism comes from jews so they just lie and conceal
>>533645735A globalist world government without distinction of race is quite literally a core marxist ideology.You clearly yourself don't understand the ideology you're rooting for, go on read the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx, a kike, then go on and read Mein Kampf and think which one makes more sense
>>533648339subjectively. why are you getting at?
>>533647951>capitalist...EVERYONE has to be a CAPITALIST or how do you buy BREAD and MILK,,are they not doing it to capitalize if shops sell things ??So when people say CAPITALIST we are all capitalist or we will have no SHOPS...STOP BEING TRICKED with words..The problem of life is this....Does the money the people produce go to the many or the few ???Call it what ever you likes but I think it should go to the MANY not the FEW..REMEMBER the MONEY PRODUCED comes from YOU the public who pay all the DEBT plus get TAXED for your labour= life clock..ALL the money produced is produced by YOU its how it gets spread that matters...Do you want the few to have it all or shared by the many,,,take your choice of the life you would like to see..The FEW witn it all or the many with something ?
>>533648391Most communists are quite open about their desire to destroynall nations and turn everyone into a golem of the party ruled by apparatchiks while owning nothing
>>533645583Its the curse of the midair. They think theyre far smarter than they actually are.
>>533648474Do communists view value as being subjective?What exactly does "owning the means of production" entail?Because communists don't believe that humans determine value based on what an individual is willing to do for someone else in an exchange.Siezing the means of production means nationalizing all goods and resources to be property of the people (read state)Communists then implement central planners in order to decide where goods/services go.But how do the central planners know where these goods/services need to go when they no longer believe that value is determined by what someone is willing to do for another in an exchange?
>>533646036>Tsarist Russia was a judeo asiatic backwater that was never going to last longAgain jews were not even allowed to Russia proper during the Tsarist times you retard. This was what the "Pale of settlement" was all about.Give it to the pole to always have the most retarded take, you still think the holohoax was real too.You do know that during middle ages poland was called "the refuge of jews" because when everyone else was busy kicking them out, polish kings gave kikes refuge.This resulted in Poland being the most jewish country pre-WWII and WWII is the reason why you aren't the most kosher country in europe right now, because poland got destroyed and jews aren't much for rebuilding that is hard work, not to mention (((allies))) pretty much opened borders for jews to go wherever they wish so they escaped poland into places with more money to steal like paris, london, amsterdam and new york. or in the ussr side they went to power centers like moscow or st petersburg or joined their jewish compatriots in the jewish stronghold of odessa which ran lucrative smuggling business smuggling western goods to soviet elite.In fact these odessa smugglers were what "bratva" aka the "russian" mafia was born out of, yes it has jewish origins exactly the same as "italian" mafia, due to jewish-arabic conquest of sicily and then normans reconquering it being stupid and not doing a reconquista style ethnic cleansing, they let the shitskins stay, and mafia was born.Wherever there is organized crime, there are jews.So no Tsarist Russia wasnt "judeo" the Tsar just was sic'd with the jews living from modern day ukraine through moldova and lithuania to east of poland. It was asiatic though considering Russian empire expanded to the east, but the asiatics were more like subjects. Because imperial russia was simply tellurocracy like Britain was thalassocracy. But you wouldn't call Britain "indian" even though they held the British Raj as their subject now would you
>>533648706>But how do the central planners knowBy how much party cock they suck while everyone else is fucked or shot
>>533646068you are brown so every dollar you make is stolen
>>533648706>Do communists view value as being subjective?yes.>What exactly does "owning the means of production" entail?business profits returning to the government.
>>533648478>Does the money the people producePeople don't produce money. Money is just a coupon for x hours of labor worked. Nobody gives a fuck where you think it should go, because you're poor and stupid and PROBABLY MENTALLY ILL.If you were as smart as you think you are, you would be able to keep some of your money for yourself.
>>533648781i'm white with blond hair. you're a snow nigger slant eyed abomination.
>>533648786>business profits returning to the government.Thats called taxes you fucking retard. In communism nobody owns anything except party apparatchiks
>>533646429>Communism is politically correct extremism so you get killed for not being PC which is contemporary leftist wet dream they have always been faggots.This. Anti-semitism was literally punishable by death in USSR>Eventually, on 26 July 1918, the Soviet government issued a decree on anti-Jewish violence. Traditionally, historians begin their discussions of the Bolshevik response to antisemitism after 1917 by citing this important document.2 However, the decree marked not the beginning but the culmination of the first phase of the Soviet response to antisemitism. Between April and July 1918, a small group of Jewish socialists were engaged in an intensive phase of anti-racist praxis within the lower echelons of the Soviet state apparatus. Until now, this chapter in the history of the Russian Revolution has been almost entirely overlooked.3>1918–1930s: Participants in pogroms (especially during the Russian Civil War) were sometimes executed by the Cheka (secret police).https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/antisemitism-and-the-russian-revolution/soviet-response-to-antisemitism-1918/91634A0E7454309DA307B192FE5379E0>Stalin reaffirms anti-semitism punishable by deathhttps://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htmAnywhere that anti-semitism isn't considered patriotism has their society warped
>>533648812So youre a jewish owned cuckold
>>533646395the "red vs blue" bullshit is just kike theatrethe real opposition died in 1945 and there hasnt been any since
>>533648902personal property existed in practical implementations of communism (like the USSR.)
>>533637420>national socialism is the best.>debtmaxxing to the extreme just to maintain a bloated welfare state AND a giant militaryit's basically Titoism but racist
>>533648786>>Do communists view value as being subjective?>yes?No they don't.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem
>>533648953or well there was a nascent one in scandinavia the USA jewry immediately killed ityou're literally considered same as ISIS for defending White civilization
>>533648997this image puts the jewish subversion of western democracy well
>>533646532>Communism was invented by a spiteful jew it was always about rotting out and destroying white nations and communities. Class does not exist this is a jewish fairy tale invented to insert themselves into other racial communities and turn them against each otherCorrect.Modern day commies are often browns that want to stay in White countries so if you pitch NatSoc for them that suddenly isnt fine, only communism where there is no distinction of race
>>533648973It did not you couldn't even buy a car without permissions
>>533646682Good example of pozzed history teaching:Even the very inventors of democracy - Greeks - knew that multi-ethnic multi-racial democracy can never work its an impossibility.Of course, anyone with more than a single braincell immediately understand this to be true - in a racial and cultural jungle there will always be competing interests.When everyone is your people and everyone ultimately has the same goals and not antagonistic like kikes vs humans, nor are they pushing their own interests above the natives.In the original democracy in Athens, only citizens could vote and only people born to TWO Athenian parents could be citizens, the world's first democracy was also the world's first ethnostate codified by law, a fact for some mysterious reason conveniently left out of the contemporary Western historical educationThe fact that Aristotle wrote both in Politics and Nicomachean Ethics about the importance of race as a foundation for any nation, that a democracy without common blood is an oxymoron, and if a nation lacks the common bond of blood it will lack philia the flesh-and-blood fraternity of its citizen and will crumble to internal conflictsIn fact there is a lot of convergences in Hitler's and Aristotle's writings, so many of those ideas were nothing new.It's just that for some mysterious reason once the jews started acquiring book prints that print the school books that teach our children, all references to any of this the importance of race when teaching about ancient Athens and its democracy and Aristotle, interestingly none of it is mentioned How come everyone knows that Athens was the first democracy, but they don't know that Athens was the first strict ethno-state?And don't even get me started on how WWII is taught, holocaust is real, jews dindu nuffin, lmao
>>533648989ask chatjeetpt to summarize the article. it's a criticism, not a proof of it being non-viable.
>>533637290why are you more retarded than a lower class personare you fat? are you gay? are you both maybe. or maybe your girlfriend keeps you in chastity, either way you're a faggot
>>533649131what's wrong with this? capitalist nations create car dependencies and tax everyone to maintain roadways, even if one chooses not to buy a car (not that you have much choice, because society is structured around car ownership.)
>>533649168LMFAOYou fundamentally lose the ability to determine what people demand under centrally planned economies. This is the reason to why communism fails completely and utterly.The ideal itself basically strips the individual of their ability to choose in favor for a state apparatus that makes decisions for them....But the decisions of central planners redistribution efforts cannot be made unless people have the ability to choose how they value their time and things in exchange!
>>533647344>can never post a single picture of communism doing anythingThere are plenty of pictures, filthy lying commie.But obviously kikes try to censor everything USSR wasn't exactly known for their openness, in fact the whole reason the "Holocaust" narrative even exists because the 6 camps that fell on the soviet side, they didnt allow the allied investigators in to find the jewish claims false. All the camps in the western side were supposed to be "death camps" too but investigators found every single claim false. Had the investigators being let to the USSR side, the Holocaust narrative wouldn't even exist today.No western journalists were given access to USSR at all but there was Gareth Jones who slipped in and took bunch of photos of the holodomor people dying of hunger in the streets after the judeo bolsheviks had stolen all the grain and then killed all the competent farmers as "burgeroisie" taking their farms and putting them under collective control where one incompetent jew was put as overseer of vast swathes of stolen farms that no longer had the competent farmers who knew how to farm because the jews killed them. And then the jewish overseers stole the little grain the farmers could produce and anyone "hiding grain" to survive were immediately shot.People like you are extremely dangerous and need to be hanged for treason.
>>533648362The kgb is a good example, most commies I know hate it and most commie media or what it is in reality former ussr countries media produced during democracy like emir kusturicaBetween your endless well of prejudice that you can't see the polish language without thinking communismAnd the complete innability to describe anything done by the commies, ANYTHING I have been years here and not a single anon but Dugin if it was really him can name a single fellow capitalist killed by the commiesYou have no recollection of it because is not in your culture subconciousNo collective memory of anything that happened during communism
>>533649378that's not what the article is saying. it's saying that in the absence of free market price discovery, you can't engage in centrally planned economies. i think the argument is irrelevant if you're a functional autarky, meaning individual demand is irrelevant and you can forecast demands of essentials based on established trends.the worship of capitalist price discovery is largely retarded. we create so many nonsensical incentives with direct and indirect subsidies that it might as well not exist -- certainly not to the benefit of the everyman, which is your implicit concern.
>>533637290objectively, communism as a doctrine during peace time have killed more people that nazis that were at the centre of ww2 and doing the only industrialized genocide ever, and by a large marginliving under communism is historically more deadly than active war and genocideso yeah it's pretty bad
>>533648090>If we can just print money out of thin air then why even bother taxing anyone,,,JUST PRINT THE MONEY and leave us all alone for tax..This is essentially how a national socialist economic system works.All the public salaries are funded by state printing money to keep to a sane inflation target like 1% (small amount of inflation is needed for society to function for complex reasons i cba to get into here) and only the amount that cant be covered by the new money would be taxed which can be zero. This is how new money gets injected to economy in NatSoc system instead of "borrowing" it from the jews and paying jews interests for a money that was created because "borrowing" is a wrong word as the money didnt exist before the loan happened yet we are on hook for the jews for that money anyway. The current system is simply insane but it made jews extremely wealthy and powerful which is exactly why they never want it to be changedThats the real reason for WWII the kike bankers didn't give a shit about poland nor even the jews in the summer camps waiting for deportation, they were afraid of national socialism spreading to the world which would have spelled the end of the "international financier" jew
>>533649587>the worship of capitalist price discovery is largely retarded.Oh my good lord...And how are these trends determined?
>>533648479>Most communists are quite open about their desire to destroynall nations and turn everyone into a golem of the party ruled by apparatchiks while owning nothingTrue, but some of them like the posters in this thread pretend otherwise.They all have in common though that they want communism specifically to White countries, none of them want to go to india or somalia or israel and have their communism there. They want to steal from White people.
>>533649341go to somalia and have your communism there, no cars eithertake your bicycle with you good riddance
>>533637420All collectivism sucks.
>>533649942collectivism doesn't exist under any economic form. how many western capitalist nations aren't importing millions of brown stinking nigger slave labor immigrants, against the will of the workers?
>>533637290Commies want to abolish the nuclear family. For that evil alone, in my opinion, commies should be tortured to death.
>>533650193what's the fertility rate in western capitalist countries looking like?
>>533650330India has a larger population size than western countries.Is India a better country than western ones?Would people rather live in India or live in western countries?Does having a larger population mean the country is better?
>>533650462you're going off the rails with irrelevant tangents. he posited that communist countries create market forces that destroy the nuclear family. i countered by asking him what the effects of capitalist market forces look like with respect to the existence of the nuclear family.
>>533637290another redditnigger retard that lives in the most centrally planned and globalized economy of all-time but eats up the jew slop propaganda that it's actually heckin capitalism despite literally every major industry having deep and entrenched ties with the federal government
>>533646580Yes thats my point im not a filthy commie because communism = 1:1 = Late stage capitalism. Their identical both a system in which a statecorp owns everything and you the labour goy equally owns nothing
>>533650462There are no capitalist countries in the West.
>>533650817agreed. anything good = my idea of capitalism and anything bad (including all of reality) = only capitalism in name
>>533650817This.Welfare exists, government regulations exists, taxes exist.Real free market capitalism has never been tried.
>>533650866Stop being a fucking retard.
