Daily reminder that Republicans have blocked every effort to end gerrymandering in the United States. Why is that?
If gerrymandering is bad why is it good when other political parties do it?
Republicans tend to do it by population. Dems always do it by race
So democrats have no morals?
Gerrymandering is the only counter to Democrats importing filthy immigrants and bribing them with unrestricted welfare abuses to use them for votes. It's a necessary evil.
>>533640090>Republicans tend to do it by population. Dems always do it by raceYou're pulling this out of your ass. Republicans know their base is uneducated white people. They gerrymander accordingly
>>533640361Gerrymandering is the main reason you can’t be politically relevant outside of the two parties.
>>533640565First past the post is the reason I can't be politically relevant past the two parties.
>>533640361Then why don't Republicans offer something better than Democrats so people don't vote Democrat?
>>533640695>why doesn't the other side offer more bread and circus so the goy cattle vote for them. Eventually someone has to do the work that pays for the tens of thousands of fake daycares and hospices'.
Billionaires spend millions of dollars to shit up this board with reddit talking points.And then OP does it for free.
>>533640826So Republicans have nothing to offer. Cool. Have fun losing
>>533640182Letting Republicans play by one set of rules so they can have the “moral high ground” while losing more of our country is insanity. Imagine sitting in a gulag after protesting against Trump's Israel war telling my kid, “well at least we have the moral high ground, son.”
>>533641004>OP does it for free.(You)s are all i need anon.
>>533640361Sounds like a poor attempt at an excuse desu
>>533641044>So Republicans have nothing to offer.It has something to offer to a person who works and contributes to society. If you're a useless eater that only looks to society and government for "gibs" it has nothing.
>>533639859How come blue states are always gereymandered to hell but red states look normal? Compare the new virginia map to the old one. They should be ashamed of themselves. Too bad leftists don't even know the meaning of the word shame unless they're doing it to other people.
>>533641171>It has something to offer to a person who works and contributes to society.Such as? Immigrants work so why wouldn't they vote Republican?
>>533639859Pepsi versus Coke charade threads should be filtered as being extremely low quality. Anyone who takes the paradigm seriously is unserious.
>>533641438>How come blue states are always gereymandered to hell but red states look normalThis isnt a true statement. Did you even look up a republican gerrymander map?
>>533639914It's always bad but if your opposition does it you either do it too or never win again.
>>533641468>picBoth are similtaneously true. Not surprising Amerimutts are too dumb to understand that or the real problem with migrants is that they migrants.
>>533641171>It has something to offer to a person who works and contributes to society. Trump is staffing the higher echelon with alcoholic yes men, at least the niggers had to be somewhat competent u der Biden. Hard work and skills don't matter to republican
>>533641541Did you even look up basically every blue state's map?
>>533641596So how should society handle people who work full time, but don't earn enough to survive?Also the majority of welfare users in the US are white citizens. Why are you pretending this is a migrant issue?
>>533641864Sounds like gerrymandering is pretty bad. You should convince Republicans to ban it.
>>533642021>You should convince republicans they need to take the high road while we keep pulling out every dirty trick in the bookI'd rather convince them to kill all leftists.
>End gerrymanderingHow would this be done? I'd actually like to know, because there are no perfect squares on any map and you couldn't just auto-assign districts that wouldn't make sense and would be a nightmare to manage.So how do you end gerrymandering? Some kind of population density auto-assigner? Nobody has ever proposed anything like this at all, all I see are propositions on what a "better map" looks like designed by people (all of which have political agendas because they're politicians)
>>533639914Gerrymandering is bad when it favors the unpopular party. Returning favor to the popular party is good.
>>533640182>hehe you have no morals, like us
>>533642515Why do you act like you can't immediately notice a map has been gerrymandered just by looking at it? Compare this map to places like illinois, california or massachusetts. You really can't tell there's fuckery going on in their states?
>>533643005>BROOOOOO I can't tell nobody can!Nobody has ever made this retarded claim, I'm claiming that there is no impartial way to do any of this. They don't have a robot do it, they don't make perfect squares. Everyone working in the process will have some idea of what it should look like and that's what they think is "fair"
>>533641541You dishonest halfwits really do belong in concentration camps.
>>533641438 Politics isn't about shame, it's about winning. The Republicans forgot that a long time ago and are basically just waging a drawn out negotiated surrender to liberalism, a glorified speedbump on the ever-leftward march of American politics.
>>533643115But it's obvious when they do. You can't define gerrymandering but you know it when you see it, just like they said about porn. We could probably have ai determine if there are too many squiggly lines so they can reject the proposed map. Funny how it always favors the party currently in power.
>>533643363>it's about winningIt's about making our country a better place for our descendants, asshole. I'm tired of people looking at politics like it's fucking sportsball. Leftists just want their team to win, even if they objectively make their life worse. As long as they feel like their team is winning, they're happy. The right is more of a coalition between a bunch of groups opposed to leftism. The left is just a bunch of brainless retards who get their marching orders from the party heads on a daily basis. They could have no opinion about something one day then be vehemently opposed/in favor of it the next. This isn't a fucking game. This is our future on the line.
>>533642395>take the high roadRepublicans literally started this retard. Democrats are only doing this because of the shit they pulled in Texas. Just end gerrymandering for everyone and get it over with.
>>533642515>Nobody has ever proposed anything like this at allYou do know google is free, right?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act
>>533643741>It started with TexasHow does it feel to be 12?
>>533643687 You can't make anything better if you don't win, plain and simple. Victory is life, defeat is death and obeying rules that lead to your defeat while your enemy disregards them isn't moral virtue, it's just stupidity. If you're in a struggle for the survival of your own kind and the enemy cheats then you've got to cheat harder than them. Fair play and moral conduct in politics are luxuries of an exclusively white society, the moment the Jews got their claws into this country that went out the fucking window.
>>533641468>Works under the table (driving down wages via competition) so they have no reported/taxable income>Gets welfare in states that give it to illegals (or via identity theft in others) because on the books they make $0Are leftists really this retarded, or just disingenuous liars who need to end up in mass graves?
>>533644023>Just cheat harderHow about we just punish the cheaters and make examples of them? Why do you advocate for a race to the bottom? That's jeet tier thinking. We need to harshly punish those caught doing it. We used to tar and feather tax collectors. I don't see why we can't apply that to other shitheads.
How do non-retarded (parliamentary) democracies do voting districts? I don't see them having constant fights over it.
>>533644067>Are leftists really this retarded, or just disingenuous liars who need to end up in mass graves?
>>533644127Because to punish the cheaters you need the power to punish them in the first place. And no, cheating your enemies isn't jeet-tier thinking, jeet-tier thinking is cheating your own kind as well as your enemies and gaslighting your kin into thinking you're doing them a favor.
>>533644504Cheating is always jeet-tier. How brown are you? Also, it doesn't take much to punish these people. Just a small group who feels really strongly about the fate of their nation.
>>533639859Cooked them miggers
>>533644067>Works under the table (driving down wages via competition) so they have no reported/taxable incomeThen punish employers that do that. Problem solved.
>>533639859Reverse it and you're describing the Biden election lol
>>533643835>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_ActAs per typical, this bill does at least a dozen other things aside from gerrymandering so you have to accept a bunch of other bullshit if you want that part.And this has in it as the solution the only "solution" ever proposed, creating a separate commission that draws the lines. So you get 5 Rs 5 Ds and 5 independents on every commission, along with rules that say>Okay no gerrymandering guys, pinky promise>And no heckin' racismsJust get two of the "independents" leaning toward one party - very likely in one-party states - then all you need is one blue/red traitor on the other side and you get to gerrymander. Manage it once and you'll get to do it again, promise.There's a reason this is the only suggestion ever made. Only the two parties that exist can propose this legislation and neither wants to fully take that power away from themselves. They will at most create a new battlefield to fight on, which is what these "independent" commissions represent.Gerrymandering is just a logical consequence of being able to redraw the lines at all ever. Solutions would need to include removing the ability of legislatures to determine their own constituencies, if we cannot rely on legislatures to be moral and restrained, which apparently we can't.
>>533644067>>533644235Reddit argument. Winning is all that matters and we won. You're lucky all we did was disenfranchise you, we could do worse.
>>533639859Shitskin loving faggot thread. If you engage this thread after me, YOU ARE A FAGGOT SHILL
>>533643741Tell us you know nothing without stating it outright Dems have been pulling this shit for yearsThe Democrat cries out in pain as he hits you
I'm so tired of people bitching about gerrymandering. All significant political parties have done it since they were able to, it's a legitimate strategy at this point.
>>533641166>EU flagWhy do you care?Who is funding your engagement?
>>533649117>Provides a solution >NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!!!You're being annoying. Either suggest a specific solution yourself or fuck off.
>>533649672>Dems have been pulling this shit for yearsAnd so have Republicans. So let's ban it.
>>533640695>intentionally obfiscating Tell us who is funding your engagement
>>533639859Reminder that conservatism has nothing to do with improving anyone's life. Conservatives only want to inflict damage at any cost. They'll gladly cut off the nose to spite the face.Its like America conservatives were born to be cucked by the elite.
>>533650125Pic related.
>>533644067The latter anon, also they are emotional and are easily manipulated by propaganda campaignsThe scourge of the midwit is real
>>533639859What's gerrymandering? Is it when you allow illegals into the country, erode voting restrictions so they can vote, and then predominantly drop them into red counties?
>>533639859>i want congressional districts based on demographics and maps from 100 years agokys you fucking idiot
>>533641590
>>533649198>winning is all that mattersYou cant build anything on top of your "win"It collapses into chaos, and the cycle repeatsThe ensuing chaos is your death figuratively and litterallyThe survivors will root out the psycopaths in their immediacy and order will reconveneNever forget when swinging from the lampost that this is what you wanted
>>533650041It's not a solution and I'm under no burden to provide my own to point out that it isn't one.
>>533650216Draw voter district borders in such a way that the resulting districts have a majority of voters that support your party.
Overall, blue states are more gerrymandered than red states.
>>533642663Cities operate on slavery and need to have their votes handicapped.
GOP: we love jews mutilating kids.DEM: we love LGBT mutilating kids.GOP: we blow jews.DEM: we blow blacks.GOP: we lie, we're hypocrites and we trade stock with insider info.DEM: we lie, we're hypocrites and we trade stock with insider info.GOP: we fucked kids on Epstein island.DEM: we fucked kids on Epstein island.GOP: We care about kids but only while they're inside the womb.DEM: we care about kids but only when they're outside the womb.GOP: Let's raise the national debt.DEM: Let's raise the national debt.GOP: fuck non-whites.DEM: fuck whites.
>>533641468They work "under the table" so they can collect welfare at the same time, you disingenuous douchefag.
>>533639859Why did democrats gerrymander the absolute fuck out of every blue state and only have a proble with red states doing it?
>>533644614Oh so you mean like jews taking over the banks. And then cheating.
>>533639859>HURR DERP no gerrymandering before evil RepubliKKKans gerrymandered states in 2026. Democrats dindu nuffinIllinois is a blue state with 14 of its 17 seats going to Democrats, BTW.
>>533639859what's the actual text of the anti gerrymandering bill? because the reason we can't have proportional representation is that single member districts were mandated in a 1960s civil rights law by the dems because the dems didn't want alabama to "disenfranchise" niggers.some of the worst gerrymandered districts like the chicago ear muff district are legally mandated by civil rights era laws that say you have to gerrymander nonwhites districts
>>533650070No retard, the democrats started it back in 2003 when they had a majority od districts in texas through gerrymandering despite being only 40% of texas voters, so democrats fled texas to avoid redrawing the map.You cheat and you cheat and you cheat and then someone feeds you your own poison and you scream about the injustice.Here's a cool map for you- even WITHOUT deportaitons, democrats are losing 10 seats.And if all republican states do what Virginia just did, Republicans will get +15 house seats.That means a permanent +24 seat majority in 2032. And if deportations continue democrats will lose another 11 seats, for +35. And a permanent Red Wall in the electoral college of 269 EVs. But even if they don't, your loss is already priced in.You asked for all of this by your words, deeds and actions. Now suck on it and die, faggot.
>>533650125Conservatism has actively improved my life, since liberals are actively hostile to men and white people doing the opposite of anything you say is good.
>>533651510>flag
>>533639859The ideal that only one side is guilty of gerrymandering while the other side are innocent perfect angels is peak dick sucking partisan faggoty. Both Democrats and Republicans have gerrymandered their way into extra congressional seats.
>>533639859>what? You're doing back to us what we did to you?>NOW I'M REALLY MADI see this response a lot with liberals. The insistence you should be able to cheat as much as you want and if someone uno reversos you, you scream like a small child "NOW THE GLOVES ARE OFF". The reality is you already opened the door 20 years ago with your bullshit, what is happening is that you are gradually losing more and more power until we just cut your lying tongue and hands off completely and you can do no more harm and speak no more lies.
all these miggers big mad that trump's efforts to steal the election backfired lol
>>533642663not if you think said popularity is a result of importing a fuckton of people and giving them free shit
>>533652764Only one side is guilty of gerrymandering on direct orders from the president in a desperate ploy to maintain his own political/personal survival
Sure seems weird that the trump state department isn't doing anything about itOr maybe they'll just pull the ripcord and pack the house with a thousand more seats
>>533639859>Binary-brain dipshitNgmi
>>533653258Can you stop sucking Democrat cock long enough read all of the posts pointing to the New England states and Illinois gerrymandering Republicans out of seats
>>533653536Total Registered Voters: 8,399,862Democrats: 3,235,084 (38.51%)Republicans: 1,693,992 (20.17%)Other/Independent: 3,470,786 (41.32%)Why would Republicans need seats disproportional to their number of constituents ?
>>533653536Illinois and Maryland are the only states Republicans have any right to complain about. All those New England states have small landmasses and delegations that you couldn’t carve up a Republican seat for them even if you tried. Vermont has literally one seat, you can’t gerrymander it at all and yet it’s constantly part of that stupid list >>533652113 keeps posting for the last few days. Then there's New Hampshire that despite having a Republican trifecta in the state government, they’re represented in the House by two Democrats. Do you think that's because they *won’t* gerrymander or they *can’t*?
>>533653961This is for Illinois
>>533653961Democrats>38% of the population >82% of congressional seats Why should Democrats get more seats than their portion of the population.
>>533654184Factor in the independents (who tend to lean blue come November).This two party system is horse shit
>>533639914The issue is that the Democrats have gerrymandered the hell out of the US since the end of WWII, there was basically nothing else left for them to do besides horrifically obvious shit like they did in Virginia. But if you want to blame anyone, blame Texas for redistricting when they didn't have to which is what started this Dem land grab.
>>533654002>"Bu...bu...but New England states are tiny so they can't make proportioned districts"District size is determined by population and not size. They carved four whole congressional seats out of Long Island, New York. Excuse not accepted for states with more than two congressional seats.
>>533641128>worried about drumpft putting people in gulags>puts up meme about TDSYou seem confused, anon.
>>533654514Tend to lean blue =/= 100% vote blue so just toss them into the Democrat camp for congressional districting.
Democrats gerrymandered first, gaslighting faggot. What happened in texas was in response to demoshit gerrymandering. The democrats are that asshole who picks a fight with you and the moment you slap them back they go running to the teacher, tears streaming from their eyes, crying about how you hit them for no reason.
>>533642663Democrats are not the popular party, though.
>>533640695But they do, you're just a retard. Demoshits offer unending shitskin invasions and absolute destruction of our country and you're smugly supporting them.
>>533639859Same reason you fags spazz out over voter IDs i'd imagine, you two have been at it for a while.
>>533641044You’re a fucking idiot, mate. Like really dumb
>>533640437>>533640437>Republicans know their base is uneducated white peopleBy the same logic the Democratic base is failed white people and niggers, both wanting stuff for free.
>>533653258>>533654002Massachusetts has 9 seats you disingenuous nigger and connecticut has 5 seats. New hampshire and Maine both were gerrymandered so republicans get no seats as weelYOU LITERALLY CAN'T STOP LYINGAnd that's why we're gonna gerrymander the fuck out of the red states until we have a permanent +15 majority>>533652350And then we're gonna have a +24 majorityAnd you will seethe and cry forever and ever because you think it's "unfair" when the same evils you do to others are done in reverse.Eat shit nigger.
>>533654742>blame Texas for redistricting when they didn't have to which is what started this Dem land grab.No I don't think I willThe reality, as stated many times, is if red states take it to the logical endgame, republicans are up +15 with every state as gerrymandered as massachusetts and virginia. Democrats did not opt for Detante, they opted to use nukes. We have more nukes, so we will use them until they are dead.
https://x.com/BarackObama/status/2046757352733397038How can the solution to fix democracy be... less democracy?
>>533654742>But if you want to blame anyone, blame Texas for redistricting when they didn't have to which is what started this Dem land grab.New York started this last election cycle, not Texashttps://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/28/new-york-house-maps-approved-00143922
>>533639859How do you “end gerrymandering”? It’s always going to be totally arbitrary how districts are drawn. It’s just a part of the system.
>>533656172>Trump is "joking" about not having elections>Trying to rig 26/28 as best as they can>Dems respond in kind by redistricting themselves, which the left up to a democratic voteYou people are so dumb its mind-blowing. And even then, regardless of how stupid this argument is you must level far more criticism at Texas for gerrymandering without a democratic vote...
>>533639914Why are you still a slavery supporting Dixiecrat? Gerrymandering is a Dixiecrat invention
>>533656272It can't end but it can be heavily regulated enough that any gerrymandering loopholes will have a negligible effect. Respecting already existing political subdivisions like towns, cities, and counties.
>>533657270You're being obtuse. The point is that it's a race to the bottom that will result in each state being 90% one party so long as that party has a voter base of 51%.
Honestly expecting politicians to play fair in a winner takes all system that enriches them beyond belief is retarded. Republicans cant even get a voter ID or voter integrity act passed because THEY want to cheat just as much as the democrats do. Unless you do something to the politicians responsible, there is no punishment for cheating or allowing the mechanisms for cheating. Both parties do it and both parties enjoy it.
>>533657384>it's a race to the bottomLol, tit for tat is literally having the desired outcome, IE as soon as your side gets hit back you cry and now say "We should really stop guys..."Also you are not even addressing my argument.
>>533655787Mass voted 10% Republican last election. And the way election geography goes, you’d be lucky to have 1 seat out of 9 with even with and districting biased in your favor.
>>533640361Is Elon à democrat?
>>533655787>no seats as weel begging you zoomers to pick up a book.
>>533641128Can you compose a list of all 50 states, how they voted in 2024, and weigh it against their actual house reps so we can find out whose gerrymandering more right now?
