Is political violence counterproductive or effective? Or neither?Obviously Luigi didn’t accomplish much but he is just one man and if there was ten successful copycats of him would effect would that have on society?Why is so little time spent on discussing whether violence works or not? It seems most people don’t spend much time seriously considering the effects of it
>>533647453You mean terrorism?
>>533647526Terrorism is a gay term
>>533647453Did healthcare premiums go down after luigi? If so, yes
violence has mixed results, we can say individuated violence conforms to reactive pressures to regulate it including specific types of media coverage, political postures etc. collective violence is essentially a meaningless term because the validation mechanism of the state is itself violence. Collective violence can be called authority, revolt, coup, terror etc. So did whoever this gun man was change consumer potentials in insurance or did they add another means of social inculcation against perceived political and social adversaries within the sphere of wealthy executives etc?
>>533647453Yes!It's the ONLY method in which anything changes from the prescribed course set by the ultra wealthy
>>533647617it did since they removed the ai that was rejecting at a 90% rate
>>533647526I prefer the term freedom fighter.
Lone wolf "adventurism" or terrorism (bombing, assassinations, etc) is usually pretty ineffective.The guy who assassinated Kenzo Abe did it because of Abe's links to a cult that his mother had been a part of. Because of the assassination the cult was investigated and shut down. Otherwise I can't think of any real succesful assassinations or terror attacks in recent memory.
>>533647679so many people cheer it on in comments sections but then I look at suicide statistics and I see tens of thousands of people commit suicide with firearm every year in USA and only about 3% or so of firearm suicides also involve a murder and that’s usually gang violence or family members not political violence
>>533647453only if a lot of it happens all at once and against the correct individuals.
>>533647453Depends on the target.Some people are pussies and will fold immediately, others get pissed off and summon the goon-squad to disappear you and your frens.
>>533647688Retardchama, if insurance companies were rejecting at a rate of 90% their claims, the profit margins of insurers wouldn't be 2-4%, after reinvesting premiums at 4%, they'd be at 60-70% margins.
>>533647453everything comes down to violence or the threat of violence. the fact that you're asking this question just goes to show how domesticated you are.
>>533647453Well we've got decades of evidence suggesting voting doesnt work. So what else are you going to do, beside nothing or violence
>>533647907Depends on the issue but basically grassroots activism? Trying to make separatist communities? Local politics? Being a neet?
>>533647617Yes, and now kike investors are suing UHC for providing too much health care.
>>533647453Why do you think the Left gets what it wants while the Right cucks out all the time?
>>533647992It’s funny because I listen to people on both sides and both accuse each other of playing dirty and both act like the world is extremely left or extremely right
>>533647968>separatist communitiesThis. Work toward a White-only economy. Also violence.
>>533647453yes
>>533648059But can’t they just bring in tons of immigrants from china and India to do the jobs and live in the places whites won’t? It’s illegal to live off grid and they own everything >>533648098See >>533647770
>>533647990Dodge vs Luigi XD
>>533647841no he used ai to reject like 90% of claims. he just wanted to take their money and deliver nothing back so he was shot
>>533647453It all comes out in the wash really. Terrorism doesn't actually work because people just double down on being against you.
>>533647688>>533647990If this is true, then no good argument can be made against debraining these types of people
>>533648235All insurance is a scam like a casino the house always wins but the problem with health insurance is unlike a casino it’s subsidized by the government
>>533648237It does work if you keep the pressure up which is why the authorities are very quick to stop it.
>>533647841>SAAR! THAT IS NOT HOW THE SCAM IS WORKING, SAAR!>PROFITS TOO HIGH FOR THE NEEDFUL, SAAR!SHUT THE FUCK UP, JAMBOY!
>>533647453Reminder Luigi was a rich kid and Brian Thompson was a self made man of humble roots
>>533647453Luigi didn’t do it
>>533648237That’s what I was thinking and also the government uses it as an excuse to be more authoritarian But if it is so counterproductive then why doesn’t to government do more false flags and make these attacks happen more often? Despite what conspiracy theorists claim that is actually very uncommon
Violence is the ONLY thing that works. The state depends on tour willful cooperation, if not, they throw you in jail (a form of violence).
>>533647453yesit is about the only thing that does actually work
>>533647453it worked with Charlie KirkTurning Point USA is on it's last legs
>>533648443But then people complain the government isn’t arresting and harassing homeless people enough
>>533648529How so? Before the shooting I barely even knew who he was. Now I see TPUSA stuff all the time and they seem pretty well funded. Are you just a salty libtard or what?
>>533647453All the breeders depend on the government to protect their tax spawn from Tyrone and Abdul as well as you chuds. Most people are docile breeder wagies who have no interest in any revolution or radical change, never mind risking their life for anything. All they care about is waging so that their tax spawn can survive into adulthood and perpetuate the cycle.
>>533648286>>533648348It's just the free market work. He took the money and delivered zero product. Not sure why so many of the Epstein-class are so emotional attached to this case. it's actually pathetic
>>533647453If it worked everybody would be doing it
>>533648173Hence violence.
>>533648610because ben shapiro (the jew who he complained about israel to) took over charlies show and then it died because its obvious the kikes killed that tiny face jew worshipping fuck face faggot XD
>>533648744Hmm, seems like a tunnel-vision take but aight.
>>533647453It obviously worksIt certainly appears it is going to be the only wayIt isn't time, yet, because of Boomers (they will throw everything at you)Unless you just want to be on TV/be a faux-martyr
>>533648718Tell that to fat people who can’t put the spoon down. It’s extremely easy but almost no one does that’s why only like 2% of American men are 14% body fat percent or lower Having a lean face is easy
>>533647453>Obviously Luigi didn’t accomplish muchHe both made every CEO scrub their information from the company websites and also increased claim approval across the board.The issue isn't that he didn't do much, it's that no one followed up to put the fear of god back into kikes and their golems.
>>533648855shooting people works. more people in jew york city should be shot
>>533648917It was a one off incident and I am curious what would happen if lots of copycats copied himSecurity companies for bodyguards were advertising using that case
>>533648889A lot of fat people are fat because of enzyme and metabolic deficiency, not because they eat too much. Their systems are simply broken. You might eat 2000 calories and another person your height with the same activity level eats 2000 calories and remains fat because they burn calories slower. Cutting their caloric intake causes "starvation mode" and they remain fat and sickly due to too little calories.
>>533649035Bodyguard ain't going to stop some dude from sitting on a grassy knoll watching some executives front door with a 308Becomes completely untenable if someone decides do pull a chocolate rambo and start killing their families instead.
https://www.georgialouise.com/2019-12-24-featured-in-people-3/Nyc beauty clinic that once did and may possibly currently be doing foreskin facials
>>533649035>>533649100https://youtu.be/tiQevGDPgRY
>>533649100Absolutely probably falseThe only link between genetics and obesity is some people feel hungry more often
this was a professional assassin who was never identified and apprehended. the luigi person was just a made up character used as the fall guy
>>533647453It does, it should be our mission to kill every scumbag corporatist who exploits us like cattle
>>533649027Oh no argument there. I'm a strapped country boy just waiting for shit to pop off buddeh.
>>533649226Marxists first. Then corporate scumbags. Everyone is happy and normal
>>533649205Idk why anyone takes this dumb viewpoint seriously. You have to be trolling.
>>533648435>the government uses it as an excuse to be more authoritarianThat only works if people believe the threat is real. If people see through it then they'll be questioning it. I doubt they could pull off 9/11 if it happened this year.
>>533647453It might have at some point, but in current times most of the population completely forgets about shit like this after a fairly short amount of time. It becomes the hot new thing to post about on social media for a while. But since they don't really give a shit about it and are just using it for gaining likes and upvotes and whatever other meaningless social media clout there is, once that dried up they forget about it and move on to something else.
>>533648917Blackstone CEO was killed. They were much worse. They are why people can't buy homes and rent jumped in price. Media buried that hard.
>>533648420Self snitching on your ability to read.Underwriting is 80-90% of an insurers' revenue, claims are their biggest expense. If you would please explain, and you can do this with algebra you learn when you're 14, how an insurer rejecting 90% of claims arrives at 2-4% net margins.
>>533649100This is nonsense just like big bones. It's caused by being a lazy fat slob. Daily calorie requirements were 3500 in the 70s btw. Big brother increased rations for the new generation.
>>533649355I just remembered yes they buried it and lied about it being related to football If it did not work then why hide it?
>>533647453TLDR; No. Political violence is the result of the current politics not working for the people, it does not fix it. If you have terrorists you fucked up, but those terrorists are not at all the soloution. However, violence itself is not always a bad thing.It never helps that too often rather than kill the people enacting such terrible things on the populace, they just attack normal people that have no control of anything. That solves nothing. If you want your "oppressor" to fear the population you should attack them, not the population even if they support that system, becuase they can just not know better. Politicians and the like (like in Luigis case) SHOULD want to do right by people becase their position is not a fucking McDonalds job, they are given control of a lot because the expectation is theyll show up when needed, when they refuse to show up and do their fucking purpose they absoloutely should fear that they didnt do that and that they might get shot in the back in a crowded street and have people celebrate. Itll solve nothing to actually do that, but the fear should be there so they dont feel like they can just fuck around and be untouchable, violence should instill in "oppressors" that they need to do right by people, or else, but violence in politics does not work when its just attacking people for being on the other side of your isle, it has to have a target not just a brand, otherwise it is actually pointless. Men have to make those bad decisions that result in political violence, when the violence isnt brought on those men then it is worthless and now youre the one making bad decisions by bringing violence on people who are generally just mislead and lied to.
>>533649469Unless you have a body temperature of 90 degrees Fahrenheit or 105 you do not have a fast or slow metabolism
Violence is all thirdies have
>>533649638If you have someone causing problems and you eliminate them all then they can no longer cause problems. can they?
>>533649893America is a third world country even if non third world people inhabit it
>>533647453It's the only real solution
>>533650277but almost no one does it? There’s hundreds of thousands of people with nothing to lose like homeless people
>>533649100If your lard ass was forcibly starved for a few months you'd lose weight just fine.
>>533647453Weren't there multiple attacks on Sam Altman's house?
>>533647526>>533647567It's only terrorism if the public figure isn't inviting violence. Murdering My Pillow guy at a pillow convention for preaching comfy pillows?TerrorismMurdering Donold Drump for demanding we round up illegals?Political Violence
>>533647453yeah it fucking does but you cant just do one person you have to go through they team until they beg you to stop killing them
>>533650248Well thats the thing, in the process of "eliminating them all" you now create an opposition people can point to and say actually is a problem, which makes YOU the problem now and if society isnt on your side it doesnt matter if you were rightous, that society you did this for now considers you the problem, and youll never eliminate all of them, it just wont happen no matter who you think it is. Head of the snake is always more impactful than trying to kill a horde, the horde tends to disperse when the person running it isnt there, and if Basically, if you claim that its for the good of your people that you start massacring your own people your are no longer doing it for anyone but yourself, and that kind of violence accomplishes nothing because when you die the fight is over, noone is picking it up where you left it. If you want change you have to have society on your side, if you start killing them thats a pretty quick way to ensure youll never get what you want. Everyone can agree that killing a greedy kike who denies people help just so they can sit on a pile of gold till they die, but killing a bunch of people who happened to be under the belief that that kike was going to do their job and its why they supported them is not. Common people are just lied to and mislead in most cases politically, its not malice that they are against you its simply that someone lied to them first. Shoot the liar, not the victims of the lie.
>>533647453>Does political violence workYes and the politicians know it too.That's why it happens from left to righ wing politicals come together and say the good old lines. "The political violence never the answer"POLITICAL VIOLENCE IS THE ANSWER
>>533647526>Terrorismaccording to whom?
>>533647453It completely depends on how surgical it is. The IRA for a very long time were global folk heroes. It took a single bombing that killed a handful of civilians for them to lose nearly all support and become completely vilified overnight. Most people are too retarded and neurotic to take killing seriously. They have no fundamental appreciation of and respect for life. They have no idea what does and does not warrant violent retaliation. If you're going to be violent you have to follow one of two paths; be incredibly surgical about it, or have your group mobilize and gain so much momentum that you can get away with whatever you want because no one can do anything about it. There are no other options. The latter has been the communistic playbook since the beginning; the equally judeo-masonic French Revolution was the actual ground zero of this tactic as far as I can tell.
>>533647453YES. The CEO Fucker was a pharma nazi who screwed over many white families who needed the medicine. But what did Brian do? He drank away the money with his whore wife and bastards kids. I hope when the kids grow up they realize what an evil bastard their father was. FREE LUIGI.
>>533647453If it was ineffective it would be legal
>>533647617Many states are also cracking down on "glock style" handguns because boomer politicians are too retarded to understand the nature of 3d printed pistol frames and too greedy to make concessions to the youth.
>>533647453Remember all the crooked CEOs that Luigi scared? Good shit. I hope we see more Luigis.
>>533653113https://www.yahoo.com/news/unitedhealthcare-other-major-insurance-companies-190303128.htmlUHC still has their taken down lmao
>>533647567terrorism is the final label to spook people about the dangers of freedom fighting or revolutionary endeavour. With one word and a isolated incident the establishment inprinted in the western public a fear towards any kind of organized resistance against the imperialistic west, even when some of those movements never set foot on a western country. So "Terrorist" and "Terrorism" sounds less attractive and romantic than "Revolutionary", "Freedom Fighter" or "Guerrillero"
>>533650537Weird power fantasy of a psychotic loser
>>533647453Very rarely. Which is why there are agitation shills here. 95% of race politics on this board comes from agitation shills trying to undermine society.
>>533648610>Are you just a salty libtard or what?I'm not but he's right, it was a successful coup by Jews. However it did wake up a TON of people and boost Nick Fuentes and antisemitism in general so it's good overall.
>>533647453Palantir's manifesto point lamenting people reveling in the destruction of their enemies is a direct response to this. They're upset that the internet cheered when CEO dude got got. >>533647617Premiums weren't his issue. He paid his premiums and still got denied coverage for a procedure. And yes, it's harder for them to deny claims with the enhanced scrutiny on them, which is why their stock took a hit. Shareholders sued because they didn't admit that the greater scrutiny on claims denial would impact profits.
>>533652265Politics is violence.Politics is "we won't go there and bash your skulls in, because we might get our skulls bashed in too, so let's reach a compromise". It only works when the majority deciders, voters in democracy, hold majority of power.White men can take away women's rights, minority rights, gay rights etc, because white males are the majority power in most of western society.
>>533647453>>533647526
>>533649100This is bullshit. You're eating too many calories. Fasting is great for our body.
>>533647899I used to believe this but I don't anymore.Violence isn't enough. You need moral authority.
>>533647453All so-called politics is violence. Statism is a death cult.https://gemini.google.com/share/4ddd69e5a9e2
