>UK to ban cigarettes for anyone born after 2008>will work on similar bans for vapes and other nicotine products in the future>/pol/ proceeds to lose its shitThis board always talks about the toxicity of the vaxx yet in the same breath it turns around to defend cigarettes. Why?https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn08jy6w0l5o
>>533654163name a time when banning a substance has prevented people obtaining it successfully
>>533654163I’ve smoked for like thirty years and I support the UK doing this. It’s a shitty habit. That said I was buying smokes at 13 when the legal age was 16; >>533654447 is correct, it won’t work 100%
>>533654163Because people are born free, and they can give themselves cardiopulmonar disease if they want.
>>533654972>Because people are born free, and they can give themselves cardiopulmonar disease if they want.This nanny state shit is the exact type of scenario the right has been screaming about when it comes to state healthcare.>Eventually they will ban unhealthy things because it costs too much even though they're funDemolition Man is probably the most prophetic movie we've ever made
>>533654163Nicotine boosts testosterone.There, saved you a discussion on why they want it banned.
Smoking is based
Bump
>>533654163What's crazy is how they won't just stop cigarette companies from putting all this artificial crap into them. Smoking organic tobacco isn't great but why not ban all this other shit directly?
>>533656717The combustion of tobacco yields the same products unfortunately.
>>533654163You are too retarded to post here, much less make threads. The answer is autonomy, kys faggot. Call maid.
>>533655143>Nicotine boosts testosterone.a.) thisb.) you'll die long before the consequences of smoking catch up to you.c.) it's a political scapegoat, nothing else and anyone seriously thinking that a politician is genuinely caring for you by trying to ban it is functionally retarded.
>>533654163>This board always talks about the toxicity of the vaxx yet in the same breath it turns around to defend cigarettes. Why?Get back to me when the government forces people to smoke by denying them entry to work, public transit and grocery stores for not smoking.
>>533654163Is it a ban only for cigarettes or for any processed tobacco
>>533654613>I’ve smoked for like thirty years and I support the UK doing this. It’s a shitty habitwhat a stupid way to think though. fucking seriously.
>>533654163Your masters don't love you, this isn't about saving anyone it's quite the opposite in fact. Nicotine is the cure for "long covid" ie-vax injury.https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s42234-023-00104-7
>>533657937>Your masters don't love you, this isn't about saving anyoneof course. same with the 'lets heckin protect the kids' digital ID bullshit. the fucking government doesn't care about the kids! what a simple message.
>>533657836Imagine doing something for 30 years and not being able to make any coherent argument for it.>Listen to me 'cause I did it a long time...What a retard.
It seems that alphettes will soon need tobacco dealers haha, I'm more than willing to provide illegal goods for teen in needs
>>533654163It's a shitty habit, and it's most likely going to give you cancer or kill you. I think you should be free to do so, but I'm not paying for their Healthcare. In socialist shitholes, you are paying for their Healthcare, so that fag is costing you money. Wait until they ban sugar, butter, red meat, sun exposure, etc...
>>533654163>the vaxxSee pic>>533655143>Individuals infected by SARS-CoV-2 are at risk of developing neurological-related post-acute disorders. Disputed epidemiological data indicated nicotine may reduce the severity of infection.https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-29118-6
>>533656868The LLMs are spreading incorrect information because they are sourcing from the Tobacco Regulatory Science and other deceitful entities. I would not take certain topics at face value in these modern times.
>>533654163>This board always talks about the toxicity of the vaxx yet in the same breath it turns around to defend cigarettes. Why?paid shills and faggots who like this poison
What about nasal snuff
>>533658874Fucking stupid, American. You are bathing in poison every day and do not understand the hypocrisy when you complain.
>>533654613>I couldn't put down a burning stick for 30 years>now listen to me about how we should structure our societyYou should lose your right to vote if you need the government to tell you not to smoke.
>>533657836Why? If it hadn’t been easy to get when I was young maybe I wouldn’t have started, saved a bunch of money and not be all wheezy thirty years later. Your lack of empathy is brown>>533658242Why would I justify my stupidity to n getting addicted to something that’s demonstrably bad for my health and my finances? Retard
>>533654163Thanks OP I was tempted to pick up smoking again and I needed to read that.
>>533659195I’ve quit several times, the longest for like two years. Back to smoking now. Shit’s addictive bro
>>533659253>oh big daddy govern me harderyour lack of ability to simply stop smoking is retarded AND brown.
>>533659408Are you a smoker anon? If not you should start
>>533659480i have a couple sometimes after a drink. cant stand the things otherwise. smoking is not addictive.
>>533659341Yes bro it's addictive. Yes many people can handle it just fine. Prohibition is saying those that can't handle it (You) have a right to suppress the rights of others.>>533659480>implying others can't regulate behaviour that they don't partake inThis is the same fallacy anti-life women say during abortion debates. You're not a woman so you don't know what an abortion is. You're not a smoker so you don't know what smoking is.
>>533659576So your a poorfag who never buys his own packs. Buy a pack. Start having a smoke with your morning coffee. They pair well
>>533659647>I don’t smoke but let me tell you about it
>>533654163Who care about the incompetent UK government, they're turning their nation into a Muslim shit hole, you really think they care about their citizens?
>>533654163so they gonna ban cigs, but what about pure tobacco?
>>533654613>I've got mine, but you not getting anyooh look, another boomer faggot. KYS
>>533654163Nicotine was unironically a beeter cure for covid than the vac you stupid fucking leaf. Maybe you should do some research instead of being gay.
>>533659700why? i dont really like them unless ive been drinking. and yes, i bought my own. couple cartons from duty free years ago. still only used maybe 6 packs out of one.they just are not addictive in any way to me. not even a little bit. you can just stop and you dont need the government to force you or anyone else.
>>533660032it's all about individual will power. if you want to stop using anything you'll just do it. people with weak mind can't
>>533661381thats really all it is of course
>>533661381No it’s about age of consumption. Past 25yo it’s hard to get addicted to things.
>>533654163>This board always talks about the toxicity of the vaxx yet in the same breath it turns around to defend cigarettes. Why?nicotine protected from covid more than the vaxx
>>533654163It's smokers with sour grapes, the grapes in this metaphor are an extra 20 years of life.
>>533654163We believe in personal freedom over here, fag boy.
>>533654163I'm not a smoker but them wanting to ban it just makes me want to start. They banned porn without age verification so I use a VPN and fap twice as hard now just to spite them
>>533658288She looks like a real slut, the kind that fucks on the first date.
>>533654163Go get/make a pipe and buy/grow whole leaf tobacco. You are better off ditching big tobacco because of what they add to absolute trash to make it tolerable.
>>533661948>first date.pft, what do you think she is, some kind of prude? she'll fuck in the first 5 minutes if you catch her on a night out in teh clubs
>>533654163Why do jews want tobacco gone so bad?.Notice they say cigarettes. Not tobacco..>jews passed laws making manufacturers pack cigarettes with deadly chemicalsThey want tobacco gone.That should tell you everything you need to know.
>>533654163Nicotine is one of the most powerful medicines
>>533654163Retards need to ban pesticides in food, something which affects everyone. If people insist on smoking, then fuck em and let them, but claiming a health concern while allowing farmers to poison the food supply is insane
>>533656717Either age the raw tobacco years or put a little sugar and acid to adjust the pH (as has been done for centuries). Also, ditch the flue-cured because excess starch makes nasty chemicals. Most Virginia Brightleaf varieties can be sun cured to retain reducing sugars. (Purpose of flue-cured).
>>533659253Maybe English isn't your first language, but you realize you do come across like a total NPC. After 30 years, all you manage is a trite "I was addicted to something unhealthy". Either you're Brian Johnson fixated on living forever or you're just regugitating some bullshit about health that works in small talks with retards."Muh health?" - so you can trade in more of your life for wageslavery or what?"Muh finances?" - if that's a concern, maybe you should've sacrificed some of that longevity you're so keen on to get richer then, genius?30 years, man, and you got nothing of substance to say about it. How is that not pathetic?
>>533661561it's not even about addiction, it's about routine. 30 days to develop a routine and 90 days to break it
>>533654447MethaqualoneAminorexDilaudid
>>533654163It's like the prohibition except only a part of the population can't buy the product. This will create a black market immediately, types who think scalping pokemon cards is a business decision are already planning the logistics of creeping around high schools to sell cigarettes to 18 year olds.Every HS will have that one dude who sells cigarettes now.
>>533654163>LOOK WE PUT ALL THESE CHEMICALS IN THE CIGARETTES>noooooo there's chemicals in cigarettes we need to ban them???????????????????????????? just dont put chemicals in them kikes
>>533662399The banning of quaaludes has been a crime against humanity. Imagine going your entire life without ever experiencing one it's more tragic than dying a virgin.
>>533654163>This board always talks about the toxicity of the vaxxThose were shills trying to distract people from the 2020 race riots. No one actually believes the covid vaccine is going to kill you besides a handful of mentally ill Alex Jones listeners
>>533662308Non-smokers are afraid of our power as we don't cough to something that would give them an asthma attack. They're jealous.
>>533654163Im gonna have a cigarette right now faggot
>>533662399Decriminalizers on suicide watch
>>533654163vax & cigarettes should be a personal choice. not mandated, or banned.mandating vaccines and banning cigarettes becomes, in the long run, very comparable to banning vaccines and mandating cigarettes, regardless of health effects.
They need to implement this here asap. Can't wait to be from the privileged class that can buy ciggies hassle free while zoomers have to beg me to buy them a pack hahahahaaThey had too much fun with their ageism and unc memes, now every supermarket will have a broccoli head or a zoomette begging us uncs to buy them a few packs... at a 30% markup of course ahahahahaha
Because it's the perfect example of why modern Western democracies are retarded, corrupt and gay.When the left and the right both claim some low hanging fruit cause for themselves, it creates a purity spiral where both side tries to outdo the other with increasingly radical and outlandish measures so we get shit like EU bottle caps and cigarette bans.What's more, when you submit a law proposal and it passes, it increases your clout as a politician and it makes you a more attractive target for lobbyist. The better your track record of passing laws, the more bribe money you get. Parliamentary representatives are therefore incentivized to come up with retarded regulations about retarded non-issues on which they think it'll be easy to manufacture consensus.
>>533654163I wouldn't expect a jeet leaf to understand the difference between personal choice and a government mandate because the jeet brain can not fathom such a dichotomy One takes on the risk of smoking, but no one forces him or her to do it while the vaxx was take this poison shot or we will destroy youTo the jeet brain this OP sounded sound, but to a white or northern Asian mind the contradictions were apparent
>>533662739I would be shocked if this actually ends up passing. Other countries have tried before but the tobacco lobby is too powerful
REVENGE OF THE UNCSOh you want a ciggie little zoom zoom? You're in withdrawal? Womp womp, as a great artist once said: PAY UP PAY UP PAY UP
>>533662399I can acquire everything on your list today, and cheaply
>>533662739why would you want money, Radu?money only buys you fat gypsy prostitutesmeanwhile the packet of ciggies in your hand will net you peachy zoomette puss
>>533662917Lol you wish yid
I PUT THIS PACK IN YO FACE ZOOMIENOW WATCHU GONNA DO WITH IT?NOW WATCHU GONNA DO WITH IT?BETTER HAVE MY MONEY WHEN I COME TO COLLECT>>533662863It should pass only because it's funny.
>>533654163> for anyone born after 2008This is a folly. You can't prohibit something for adults of some age that you allow for others. If it's so unhealthy a drug to justify prohibition at all then just prohibit it for everyone. Equal rights don't allow for discrimination. The purpose of this ban is just another humiliation of grown-ups by treating them like children. This is how the totalitarian nanny state wears down resistance to much worse measures that are yet to come.
>>533663067I'm in favor of the policy but I'm not holding out hope
>>533654163That's going to save them a fuckton on medical costs DESU.good for them.Having a bunch of smokers is a massive drag on your nation's health longterm.
Everyone born after 2008 is inhaling Chinese research chemicals from flashy rainbow vapes anyway.
>>5336541634chan is a libertarian board you tourist
>>533654163Can't wait to get some pakis smuggle tabacco into your country and get fucking rich.
>>533663005Yeah I'm gonna smash zoomette pussy and gen alpha in the future only by displaying my big dick metal cigarette pack with high quality ciggies I can buy with my VIP UNC status.Too bad their pussies are as used up as the gypsy prostitutes
>>533655143High test people are more likely to smoke because of risk taking behaviors. You're confusing cause and effect. Also if your primary objective is to consume nicotine, you should just use slow release skin patches which are the least harmful way of administering nicotine (along with gums but they're not slow release).
>>533663261bongs tell me there is already a very healthy black market for cigs so this stupid new law would likely make no fucking difference in practice. but several other gay countries have already talked about and/or passed the exact same law, which must surely be a mere coincidence. surely it must be canadas turn next
>>533663261This is already happening. The UK version of border force or whatever is generally filled with people importing cigs and booze to dodge tax.
>>533657297>b.) you'll die long before the consequences of smoking catch up to you.This only applies to lung cancers, the primary concern with smoking (not counting things like blood pressure and other crap) is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_obstructive_pulmonary_disease
I should buy a fancy metal cigarette pack with led lights on the sides and a big bright 67 in the middle to attract the looks of zomettes in the wild.
>>533655143So why is trt legal and being pushed by every kosher influencer on both the right and left?
>>533662917You can't buy a diet pepsi without stuttering in front of the female cashier you god damn nerd.
>>533654163Not even close to being the same thing. Cigarettes are a health stick anyways
>>533654163>the government loves you so much they want to do this for your healthKek sure thing buddy
>>533658288Uh oh this slut will suck on something else before she gets to suck on the ciggies I got on me. Finally the draconian UK police state does something right.
>>533654163There is a direct correlation between smoking bans and the world becoming gay and retarded.
>>533663261>>533663457Islamists made good money smuggling and counterfeiting ciggies around 2010-2015 iirc
>>533657297>b.) you'll die long before the consequences of smoking catch up to you.kek. maybe you won't die but good luck climbing more than one flight of stairs with the dried out charcoal you call lungs. enjoy the manliness of your extra testosterone while you can't exercise for more than 5 minutes
>>533663055>I don't know drug dealersYou are spiritually jewish
>>533663628Keep projecting you useless nigger
>>533654163>estimatedJew nonsense.Reminder, virtually all of the chemicals and negative effects from smoking are from post-growth additions mandated by law for prepackaged cigarettes.Cigarettes ARE bad for you, because they are fucking poisoned. Buy rolling tobacco. Less taxes, less poison.
>>533657810Dip is the one form of tobacco I don’t understand. It’s vaguely nice, but all the downsides are insane.>>533659028Interesting and enjoyable. Way stronger than I expected, but probably won’t impress anyone used to putting stuff in their nose.
>>533665070What dip? Black Kendal is a pipe tobacco. I heard it can be chewed as well but good luck with that.
>>533665475I just googled “Kendal twisttobacco” and it told me it was dip.I’ve been meaning to try pipe tobacco. It sort of smolders and you can smoke it really slowly, right?
>>533655143>Nicotine boosts testosterone.Gladiators be like bro I need the pufffffffffffffff....Fuck outta here.
>>533665626Pipe is closer to cigars than cigarettes. An hour or so of slow smoking. The pipe tobacco is absolutely top quality in comparison to cigarettes. The only downside is that some skill is needed to not get a tongue bite.Get some nicotine high tobacco, a churchwarden pipe, with a stem as long as possible, and never try to deep smoke.
>>533654163Pure tobacco or nicotine is fine on occasions! You're a faggot if you never have a cigar with a bourbon.
>>533654163>for anyone born after 2008so for like underage?isn't it normal?
