We love the poorly educated
How did "everybody's going to college" work out?
>>533654495Great!>24>Graduate med uni>Send job applications to a few private clinics>Get called back multiple times>They are desperate for junior doctors, basically beg me to work at their clinic>Work whenever I want and however long I want>Paid five times the median salary>Employer even pays my rent
>>533654385This is why universities and vocational training were nationalized in the Third Reich. Education is the primary responsibility of the state
>>533654385(smart) rich people also arent telling their kids to go to college for social sciences. theyre sending their kids there for some finance-related degree.
>>533654385Marxist. Stupid advice. Real price discovery is happening and has just begun. University -fags will starve
>>533654495I got to fuck white and Asian girls younger than me for several years and am in general smarter and more worldly then I would have been staying in my hick town. Man I miss college, except for the school work and stress over research but even then I learned a lot of skills because of that pressure.
Rich people aren't the ones that will suffer from student debt even if they send their kids for 200,000 dollars English Literature degrees.
>>533654385Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs and bunch of other rich people don't have degreeDegrees are for perpetual middle class NPCs
>>533654644>medYou will never have the time or energy to enjoy any of that 'wealth'. Kiss your life goodbye.
>>533654757They are sending their kids to make connections with other rich families. This and nothing else. Finance is a meme, you can learn all you ever need in a week. Internalizing this stuff isn't done in a school either, you need to test it. Hence the Dreidel game. And getting investment play money at age eight. First own company at 10. As AI has automated entrepreneurship (rolled out next year), little kids can serialize business ventures with the superhuman might of AI, using the money of their parents to capture every niche on the markets automatically. Then WeWork™ for $1 per day for these rich kids who haven't even gone through puberty. Finally, freedom.
>>533654966>200k student debtYou have to be exceptionally retarded for a 4 year degree to cost this much
>>533654385College, especially in America, is one big circlejerk pyramid scheme scam.
>>533654644Your going to want to blow your brains out in a few years like every med professional. There's a reason they're miserable cunts. Just wait till the long hours start. You'll have about 4 hours a day to actually enjoy the fruits of your labor (but you'll be too tired). And your going to get replaced by AI because people hate talking to doctors. Long gone are the days medical professionals were a respected class, and the COVID pandemic cemented it. Now get back to work healthcare faggot you have some 3rd world niggers who need their methadone.
>>533654644so you are keeping old people alive basically, we are talking about productivity here
>Nooo, you have to have a degree in Cambodian gender studies or you're UNEDUCATEDFuck off, retard.
>>533654385Rich kids don't put themselves in lifelong debt by going to college.
>>533654385They don't need competitors they need chickenhead/ cock suckers.
>>533655564Aren't you the pedophile NEET from that other thread? Or is that another Spaniard
>>533655659Yes they do, only a retard wouldn't take advantage of low interest government backed student loans.
I'd rather buy a few GPUs, self host, and access the wealth of all knowledge without restriction or control
>>533654385someone has to know how to fix my toilet goyim
>>533655993ever realize how jews needs goys but goys don't need jews?
>>533654385rich people don't raise their own children, cuck. That's what the maid and nanny are for. And you can be sure those people are the ones telling them not to go to college.
>>533654495its where 90% of whites go to get mind fucked and recruited into shabbosism
>finish high school>finally after 12 years I can read "run spot run" and do basic addition>now I can get to choose>work at mcdonalds>or go to to high school 2 with more alcoholby this point in life basically all students are either are career criminals, or mindbroken and institutionalized.>might was well go to school>debt? everyone else is doing it (they aren't)College should literally be for 30+ old people that are tired of trades/can't pivot to a desk job (you can get a fucking house and woman doing this).If you aren't hungry to win you shouldn't be in college. It's kind of too late and the system is fucked. Students that have never known consequences sign up to learn art history and they're graduating into the grimmest job market in 100 years.>learn computers? better be top tier turbo genius or you've been outsourced years ago>art anything? you can learn it yourself better, unless it's a super-rare instrument>business? you can busy in this car washIf you're an economic genius you can get lucrative Wall Street or DC internships but those are competitive. Learning a foreign language is your ticket to leave the fucking country, if you're into that, long-term or short. Study abroad for a whole semester and you can get fluency and make connections. You can learn languages yourself but nobody will invite you to study abroad programs that will shine on a resume. Colleges WILL throw opportunities at you since employment after school is one of their metrics.Sold bets for degrees>engineering with master's>anything medical to take care of boomers - lots of sick people here>a bachelor's in bullshit followed up by lawTreat it like the military, you're in there for a few years, work hard, get out. If you're dumb, dumb people can become master carpenters, unless they're like really noticeably retarded. Do whatever you want, really, just commit full send or have a plan to pivot which is soul-draining if the material is difficult.
>>533654495>In the U.S., nearly 40% of students who start a bachelor's degree program don't finish it within eight years. The first year is often the most critical; about 1 in 4 freshmen do not return for their second year.>The "Stopout" Issue: Approximately 38 to 43 million working-age adults in the U.S. have attended college but left without earning a degree, often due to costs or life pressures
>>533655835That wasn't me but I'm not that far from that description
>>533656155like herd without a guide
>>533654495good, if you have a brain. i went from $57k to $150k in 7 years. in another couple years i'll probably job hop to $180-200k.
>>533654385Rich kids go to college to network with other rich kids. Your kids won’t be invited into their clubs or their parties unless they are extremely talented and can be exploited by those kids.
Debt without Degree: Nearly 4 million Americans have dropped out while still owing student loan debt, making them nearly four times more likely to default than graduates.Lower Earnings: On average, those who drop out earn 35% less annually than those with a bachelor's degree.Employment: Dropouts are roughly 100% more likely to be unemployed compared to degree holders.
>>533654644Nice. How about all the other professions?Or may we simply say doctors are a privileged class?
>>533655499cope harder, i've seen octogenarian doctord. have you seen 70-80-90 year old software engineers or blue collar slaves? >eyy ayylmao nigger, lol
>>533656155The tapeworm needs the lion but the lion does not need the tapeworm
>>533656666>still needing to work in your 80sYeah the SEs and manufacturing guys all retire in their 50s lmfao, stupid jeet
>>533656754>all retire in their 50s lmfaoif you aren't a boomer you aren't retiring ever in your life, tardenjoy working at wallmart when you are old
>>533654385Well trade schools are more useful anyway, sniper school, torture school, building guillotines/hanging platforms school, etc.
>>533656851>gets btfo>doubles down>no u Hahaha just take the L dude
>>533656754the average doctor in the US makes 2-3x what the average codetranny makes.
>>533654385I dunno you are technically right but i hate these semi educated midwit "i answer three emails a day for 100k a year" people.I truely do.
>>533654385RICH PEOPLES KIDS WILL NEVER NEED TO BE ABLE TO EARN A LIVING. YOU ARE A LOSER WITH AN ART DEGREE WORKING AT TARGET WITH 200K IN STUDENT LOANS, THIS IS A COPE BECAUSE YOU FELL FOR THE COLLEGE SCAM,
>>533656937And how much of that goes to Goldbergs school loan interest? Everyone that I know in thr medical profession is miserable, broke, and full of STDs. A few (boomers) made it to the three car garage stage, and theyre still drowning in debt even in their 60s
>>533656937not only that but also non existent job security and long ass working hours
>>533657097>And how much of that goes to Goldbergs school loan interest?you can pay off the loans in a few years.
>>533654495Not one "college educated" response answered the question correctly. No one gives a shit how your experience after college went. The question is what did telling everyone to go to college do. The answer is it oversaturated the job market and was a contributing factor to employers moving to hiring shitskins to keep employment costs down.
Yes lmfao, they all send their kids to elite boarding schools in new england and getting into an ivy is the top priority.
For Americans I don't know...But if you're European and are already paying for it through taxes you are pretty dumb not to degreemaxI maxed out benefits + loan and put it all in the stock market while living frugally when studying. I came out with a degree and a starter capital for a house. This was in 2010 so your stock market experience may vary. Get dabbed on zoomers
>>533657233And outstandingly few actually do. Nevermind the issue that these loans have inflated their salaries and thus inflated the cost of services, most of them end up in a debt trap while enjoying a fairly high standard of living. Frankly we just need to bite the bullet and nationalize the entire industry before it bankrupts us further.
>>533654495everybody - poorlygoing to top schools - amazing.
>>533654644>They are desperate for junior doctors, basically beg me to work at their clinicThis should have been an immediate red flag.
>>533657592you shouldn't take something just because it is free - there is opportunity cost. but, certainly, getting a free engineering degree is worth it. psychology - not so much
>>533654495Worked out for me, making about 250k/yr. This is actually poor compared to many of my classmates.
>>533657856Most med school people become nurses or pill pushers. Most doctors are fucking jews or hindus right now. Do you know how many boomers want a white doctor? Basically all of them except for very staunch democrats.PhD levels of education pay out except for basket-weaving professors and clergy-men. If there were lawyers everywhere then legal advice would be pretty cheap.
>>533654385I did trade school (TAFE in Aus) because there's a lot more money in it.
>>533655157Did you even read my post?
>>533658061Makes the most sense since burgers and 100k a year for nothing like to be subjugated by pic related.
>>533654385Not me. I hate the poorly educated. If anyone without a PhD was considered a race, I would be the most racist fucker on the planet. We should execute everyone including myself that wasn't magna cum laude. The fact that the top 1% of Ivy League schools isn't the entire gene pool is a travesty inflicted on all of humanity. I don't care if the average IQ on the planet ends up being 60 if it means only quadruple-doctorates are allowed to breathe. 2+2 can equal 5, get over it.
>>533658499Yeah 2+2 equals 5 in a certain environment. It is the meta game redditors and subhumans love esp. women and $oyboys. And that is what is wrong, you cant point out things that are wrong or their bots come after you.
>>533658499>What if the entire planet was hyper autistic turbo spergs that were incapable of any sort of teamwork or ordering a pizza on the phone Imagine the smell.
>>533654385Miggers would be better off as an untouchable caste that works in the BASED sweatshops they desire.
>>533654385>>533654495>>533654644I work as an engineer making an much as you and I didn't even spend one hour in any college or university. Experience > education in my field. Enjoy taking your continuing education every year faggot.
>>533659054yeah but doctors have licenses to keep out jeets and women want doctors because doctors have status. they dont want to fuck "coders" lmao
>>533657240and graduates under mountains of debt
>>533659282>keep out jeets Jeets just cheat to get their licenses, the licenses only serve to make regulatory jews money >doesnt know the difference between coding and engineering >makes life decisions based off whims of womenAre you a teenager?
>>533658263He's got the wrinkles with the owner's manual
>>533654385rich kids fuck niggers who cares what they think.
>>533654495If you studied well it works out great otherwise you'll end up a jobless retard
>>533654644>all that and a bitch that spreads her cunt on OF makes twice as much as this polish schmuck
>>533654966Yeah, OP neglected to mention that rich people can actually afford it. That makes all the difference.
>>533655157>save enough money to build a house>build a house>invest leftovers into this or that>make some money>possibly start some company>live off the interestyou're retarded
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>>533659439what kind of engineer are you?
>>533654495All the positive replies with long answers are guaranteed to be visajeets, some didn't even hide their flag. That should answer your question.
>>533654922>I got to fuck white and Asian girls younger than me for several years based and unironically the only reason to go to college at this point. tight teens separated from mommy and daddy looking to have fun
>>533654385Rich people send their kids to exclusive private colleges that your parents couldn't afford.
I believe my uncle would qualify as the wealthy. He has a networth of over 100mLet me tell you how he dealt with his son>cousin was always a little stupid, and very unmotivated>despite poor grades, gets in the best school in my state>does one semester>drops out of college>goes on an extended vacation around the world for a few years>after returning, decides to not go back to college, and instead starts a real estate business>dad buys him multiple apartment complexes>buys him a small officemy cousin is now LARPing like he's the American entrepreneur. And when I think about it, it's basically the same exact story of Trump. Down to dropping out of college and his dad buying apartment complexes for him lolReal estate is such a shitty industry to go into. There's better returns just parking daddy's money into a SP500 ETF lmaobut he'll never really fail because he'll have his dad to bail him out and he'll be set to inherit shitloads of money
>>533654385I'm rich (or at least someone like you would think I was). I told my kids to skip college. My son bought a house before he turned 20 and my daughter was making $80k per year in a trade before she turned 21. So good luck with your $80k in student loan debt and $60k per year cubicle gig.
>>533654993Oni su ti američki miškovići i karići, levaci koje je služba postavila da vode firme, jer je glupo da amerika kao kapitalistička zemlja, otvori "Američku Telefonsku kompaniju" ili "Kompaniju za kontrolu propagande" već nađu nekog iz bezbednosne ili vojne porodice, kažu mu da otvori firmu, daju mu tehnologiju, javne ugovore, i čokoladiraju ga parama. Pročalkaj malo muskovu, gejtsovu, i cukenbergovu biografiju. Paravanima poput cukenberga i gejtsa ne treba ni osnovna škola, ali sadruge strane, da bi se ta tehnička proizvodnja sprovela u delo potreban je ogroman broj visoko obrazovanih ljudi.Za običnog čoveka je fakultetsko obrazovanje i dalje najpouzdaniji put ka višem sloju društva.
Nobody is telling people to skip college (unless they want to do blue collar trades). People skip college because they cannot afford it. Being able to attend university is a privilege only upper middle class and up have.
>>533664611Did your son buy a house, or did you buy your son a house? These are two entirely different things if you're bragging about how successful your son has made himself.
>>533654495Intelligent people didn’t get degrees now retards with degrees run the world
>>533659054Hello ITcel.
>>533655499>the COVID pandemic cemented it.So many doctors and nurses went along with the covid psyop. So very few publicly opposed it. Their reputation is permanently sullied. That plus the fact that they push male infant genital mutilation.
>>533664556I know a guy like that too, spent 6 years in another city studying law but he only passed one semester while his parents were sending him a lot of money every month to afford it. Then he came back, got a 2 floor house in nice neighbourhood in our city from his parents, and his dad got him a comfy job where he makes like 4-5x the average salary, and most of the time he just plays Counter-Strike while at work. He also has the audacity to queue at 15:40 for a game when his shift ends at 16:00 and tell us "I make a lot of money because I work over time".
>>533654385>MUH EDUKAJSHUN!you're brown
>>533664763My son bought his own house. The only thing I did to help him out was cover 80% of his auto insurance while he lived with me while he saved up. I taught him how to save and invest. I also made him an authorized user on all of my credit cards so he inherited an 850 credit score. But that didn't help him too much since he didn't have his own payment history. The kid started working when he was 14. Saved 95% of every paycheck, Christmas check, birthday check. 5 years later he had $20k for a down payment.He's got a modest house. But he's owns a house with a separate workshop and a pool.
college is a massive meme and a scam in a lot of cases but you need to go through it to get your certificate here. like 90% of the stuff they taught me in electrical is stuff i dont need to know on the job and a lot of job related things i do need to know are things im going to have to learn on the job because they never came up in class.Genuinely, the entire classroom content could be skipped and you could be ready to be an electrical apprentice. The worst part is that at my college we had some professional teacher guy teaching an electrical class and he knew nothing about electrical, the college was just hiring him because they had so many students they couldnt fit them all into the class with the real electrician. My "professor" even said that in college or university you either get someone who is knowledgeable in the field or you get someone who knows how to teach. So my teacher was an actual electrician who also had teaching experience and the other class was a teacher guy who didnt know the material well enough to answer questions and apparently like 10% of the class were failing the classroom and their shop work was garbage too.if you can get straight into apprenticeship because of nepotism then i would say to do it, there are programs to do that sort of thing.
>>533665673How much of the starting costs of his business did you cover for him? I don't know any rich kids that's ever had to pay their own rent or mortgage, or cover the starting capital for the business their parents buy their way in for. There's a lot of industries people can break into without needing any skills or competence. All they need is starting capital
>>533654385In order to be part of the elite globalist crowd you have to have gone to an ivy league school. Their degrees mean nothing other than you’re part of the in group.
>>533663616Train Model train
>>533654385>>533654495The problem is most people (including whites) aren't high enough IQ to make use of a university education.There's no point trying to teach Cletus mathematics he will never hope to understand, let alone apply to another field.Lower tier human capital should stick to trades.
>>533666434He got a job in a warehouse. Within a year he was a supervisor. Although, this summer he'll be starting as an apprentice machinist with the local union. He will come out with zero debt making more than the majority of graduate school students will in their first five years of work.
>>533667838Tell me about it. I once had an indian with a "Masters in Computer Engineering" working for me. Dude could never grasp Git. Third world people can never operate at the level of Whites. It's sad that our political class has allowed them to operate cargo cult style in a country they don't understand and could never build and work with technology that, to them, is magical. Fired that dude and I heard he was deported.
>>533654385I went to trade school for cad design because o didn't want to waste extram money on classes that didn't relate to my job and making money.Tuition was 300 and my textbook Was 300 Canadian monopoly monies.Suck it!
>>533654495Don't you love how everyone seems to make $200k a year online? But for some reason everyone also bitches about the cost of living. Pretty fucking funny, no?
>>533668159People with high incomes have high liabilities.
>>533654385Rich people are sending their kids to Harvard not Illinois Community CollegeI know plenty of people with a diploma who can't find work. And people without one who are doing great.
>>533654495pretty great, actually. My W2 last year was $345k (Cali tech bro age 30). Just have a bachelors in CS from some bullshit-ass Canadian uni where the tuition was cheap.
>>533665673>$20k down payment.Is this a 100k house? you live in the sticks my redneck friend. your kid should've gone to school.
>>533668551Yeah, man. We should all crowd into a city where I can get 900 square feet for $900k and make twice as much so I can pay 3x as much in taxes. It just burns you up that people can live somewhere you've never heard of and live better than you ever could.I'm a software engineer. I bring in $200k per year in a place you couldn't find on a map. I bought a brand new house 6 years ago for $280k. Brand new. 3,000 square feet. Acre lot. I paid cash. My only complaint? The garage is about 1 inch too short for me to park my $100k truck I also paid cash for.You urban bugmen are so delusional that you don't understand that you can live in the middle of nowhere, make bank, and live like a literal king without being under threat of being stabbed in the neck by the next black who strolls by you. I know you have to believe we all live in double wides and smoke meth. But real shit gets made in places you've never heard of.
>>533654385>The college memeDo you have a degree? If so, what is it?
>>533668319>went to college>tries to use anecdotal evidence as an argumentlol
>>533654495What you learn can never be taken away from you. Among the only things on earth that can be said about.
>>533668551Living in the sticks is great. You have to be retarded to want to live in a city. >muh food>muh sportsball>muh musicThings for uninteresting people.
>>533669062i grew up in a rural shithole and i make $150k wfh. i live in the exurbs of a city because i'd be turbo fucked if i lost my job, remote jobs are getting rarer by the day. (also my hometown, despite being 98% white, is now a shithole overrun with white niggers shooting up fentanyl and smoking meth.)
>>533669535I work in office. And I work on shit so unique that if I described it, I'd be doxxing myself. And you didn't capitalize White which means you're some sort of brown faggot who's just rage baiting.
>>533654644>toilet molester>commenting on us education
>>533654385Yet you are not seeing the bigger picture, you fucking cretinous, idiotic nigger monkeyThe difference with the rich is that the rich have all the means and networks to make their kids successful, or their kids will simply just take over after them. Most of the people that I know who went to college don't even work in the profession that they have sweated, bled, and wasted a lot of money on.My sister has a master's in speech pathology, and for the last 10 years, all she has been doing is bartending, waiting tables, and doing telemarketer shit. You can't have 1,000,000 veterinary degrees and think you can supply all those faggots with jobs or offices to be a vet.College is a scam and a sinkhole for a lot of people.
>>533669062Good for you. Remote 200k job while living in the boonies is pretty much the dream.>>533669496It's great if you can find a way to make good money. People move to the city because there's no money in the sticks.>>533669176I can literally find you 100,000 data points in a 10 mile radius of where I'm sitting.
>>533669668i have blond hair and a german surname. in all likelihood i'm whiter than you. i don't capitalize shit, this isn't a work email. unless you hold a security clearance and work on ITAR restricted stuff, you are replaceable.
>>533669668>didnt capitalize whiteThis isnt american rennaisance where everyone is looking for reasons to be micro-aggrieved.
>>533654385Kristen Bell dropped out of college, which makes your pic completely retarded.
>>533669771>My sister has a master's in speech pathology, and for the last 10 years, all she has been doing is bartending, waiting tables, and doing telemarketer shitNigger, the market has never been bigger with so many autistic kids out thereshe must be as retarded as (you)
>>533669062lol a coder with a truck you can't fit in your garageI don't know why you're calling anyone a bugman when your life is a LARP. You went into some rural community, with a remote job, and a 100k truck and push up the cost of living for the people actually from there.You will always be some carpetbagger
>>533669816No, its actually great regardless of income but to that point one of the highest earning counties in the country is outside st.louis Mo, a flyover state. Kek. I grew up in the upper-mid atlantic. One of the most densely populated areas in the country and it was awful. I took a decrease in pay to GTFO. 30 acres. 4000sqft. Quiet. Less than 500k.
>>533668159>Don't you love how everyone seems to make $200k a year online?A bunch of liars. No one making $250k/year is spending their free time on 4chan.
>>533670897>oldfags didnt grow up Nigger, the millenials that popularized this shithole are in their 30s and 40s. Youre here forever. Did you never read "Catcher in the Rye"? Being an adult doesnt mean you arent secretly a shitposter anon.
>>533654495Cords not gonna like this
rich people can afford college
>>533672632College isnt that expensive. >inb4 the cost of wharton school of businessJust go to a juinior college to knock out prereqs then transfer to a 4 year in-state uni to finish a stem degree. Youre not a retard are you? You can complete a stem degree?
Go ahead, take you sociology degree, make it big and prove everyone wrong.
>>533672632Rich people has the advantage of nepotism, the college is just for show.
>>533654495>Graduated in 22>70k >Pretty close to clearing the debtDidn't go to a great school, but for the effort I put in (which is, not nearly as much as I should have) I'm doing alright. Frankly I should have gone for a masters but I fell for the meme of experience trumping education and throwing myself at work. At least I can go back and it won't be as daunting since I have a war chest now. I recommend any kiddies reading this to get off 4chan and go hit the books, don't be retarded and maybe consider community college for credits.
>>533669827I wasn't replaceable when I worked on ITAR stuff. You are correct. And I'm even less replaceable now that I returned to the private sector. But you enjoy training Ranjeesh to replace you at whatever job you think you're good at.
>>533669909I don't remember asking what the homosexual community thought. So I'm left wondering why you thought it appropriate to chime in.
>>533673973You know im right. American Rennaisance is just a bunch of cucks speech-checking everyone and complaining about micro-agressions like "you didnt capitalize white and you did capitalize jew even though it was the beginning of a sentence". Its tumblr-tier and nothing gets discussed because its a merry-go-round of berieved faggots whining about capitalization and other scitzo grammar crystal-balling of other posters "intentions". So, keep your shitbag capitalization scitzophrenia to yourself.
>>533654385College is the better option, but you have to have connections or a decent IQ to get anything out of it.
>>533654385Thank you for saying it.
