Western immigrants: on average a net gain of about €25,000, with some nationalities (Japan, North America, Oceania, UK, Scandinavia, Switzerland) estimated to contribute up to €200,000 per person over their lifetimes.Asylum seekers: commonly cited lifetime net cost of about €475,000 per person.Non-Western immigrants: average lifetime net costs cited at €275,000, with higher averages for some regions — roughly €550,000 for Morocco and €600,000 for the Horn of Africa and Sudan.>simply put, people from the west and Japan bring plus for the society, non west, minus on average and Middle East and African refugees, big minus, revealed in this study. https://www.visaverge.com/news/fact-check-do-immigrants-cost-the-netherlands-e17-billion-annually/
>>533657194This doesnt follow because you can't reduce the impact of immigration to a single number. Immigrants can still work important jobs even with a "negative" overall contribution and even unemployed migrants contribute to economic consumption and demand. Economists have always been full of shit and right wingers should be more skeptical when economists talk about anything even if it confirms their preconceived ideas.
where bolanda
>>533658369its identical to somalia
>>533657194>with some nationalities (Japan, North America, Oceania, UK, Scandinavia, Switzerland) estimated to contribute up to €200,000 per person over their lifetimes.This is retarded bullshit based on companies from those countries setting up 'letter box companies' to push money through for lower tax rates.>The Netherlands has long been recognized as a prominent tax haven, attracting multinational corporations seeking to optimize their tax strategies.That's why the number is so 'high'. Because they send 1 or 2 guys to 'work' at the company and then funnel millions through that same company.
>>533657194Is that even legal to study, much less publish?
>>533657194You hate them cuz of >MUH EGOYNOMYI hate them cuz they are brownWe are not the same.
>>533657194This is first-generation immigrants. The non-Western contribute less not necessarily because they drain more (they only cost 8% more than Western), but because the socialist Dutch government can't get big taxes out of them yet, like the inheritance tax. The delta between non-Western & Western becomes far less extreme with every successive generation. The End Wokeness people aren't smart enough to realize they're espousing socialism with posts such as this. The groups that "contribute" more do so because the Dutch government taxes them so hard.
>>533659023yes, now pay me back my money, paco. 200 large.
>>533658186This, OP you aren't considering the priceless culture and diversity they are bringing to enrich your country
>>533659023Why wouldn't it be legal? Similar studies have been done in Finland and Denmark.
>>533659280Or, you know, the fact someone has to wipe your demented grandpa's arse even if that person is so poorly paid they're collecting UC or his wife is unemployed and pregnant.
>>533657194Are you saying if they were profitable that it would be ok to have them?
>>533658186Sounds anti-science but okay
>>533659023It was done by retired pros.
It's a touchy subject for mutts, they are used to people judging others as individuals and not groups
>>533659470>science>economicspick one and only one
>>533659355I didn't know asses didn't get wiped before mass mudslime immigration
>>533659355There are plenty of people on bennies capable of doing that if we take away their welfare
>>533659355They bring their own grandparents and then don't work.
>>533659023Looked up the study and it was a independent payed study, not one payed for by the goverment.
>>533659127>The delta between non-Western & Western becomes far less extreme with every successive generation.No, it actually increases in the 2nd gen. Childhood years add to the cost, and so do more years on welfare.
>>533658369>Central (Europe) + North Africayou blind blud
>>533657194>Is immigration worth it?Of course not. It's literally biological warfare.
>>533659565In the 1960s there were 20 working people for every pensioner.Now there are 3 working people for every pensioner. Now where do we get all the arse wipers from?>>533659580Good luck getting voters to agree to take their own benefits away. Plus with the population fertility crash we still wouldnt have the numbers.
>>533658186Go back paki
>>533657194Welp I guess this means that the Dutch are going to import a shit ton of Somalians now.
>>533659701Take your own advice Jose
>>533659355>someone has to wipe your demented grandpa's arse even if that person is so poorly paid they're collecting UCBoomer should pay market price for arse wipers. Release equity from their homes, pension pots etc.
>>533659732Sure, just like they'll vote to end the triple lock.Plus "paying more" doesn't magically create more labour. It has to come from somewhere. We don't have enough young people simple as. Where do you get more people from? Simple: we import them.
>>533659445if they were profitable, the arguments governments make about bringing them in would at least make sense. The fact that governments are willing to absorb massive losses of capital supporting random people says there's some motivation other than "helping" the country.
You are a fool if you think you can convince politicians with financial data.they are not importing these bottom feeders to make money, they are doing it to create a easily controlled brainless mutt population
>>533659551News flash, economics is a science. Retard2nd new flash, a study of economic contributions based on origin nation, is, surprise, scientific, because it's a literal study>NONONONO IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE IT THREATENS MY WORLDVIEWEngland doesn't exist in London and it's because of people like you
>>533658186>unemployed migrants contribute to economic consumptionkill yourself
its a pretty fucking simple calculus, if they moved from a "good" country to yours, there has to be a very good reason for it t. british in scandinavia
>>533659830>The fact that governments are willing to absorb massive losses of capital supporting random people says there's some motivation other than "helping" the country.No, it's just that you don't understand economics, and to be fair, politicians don't want to be blunt with voters that immigration is a simple consequence of ageing population plus a welfare state. They've let all kinds of conspiracy theories flourish instead of telling the people: if you want a generous welfare state for pensioners you need to import a lot of brown people to do the shit work and keep the economy going. NOTE THAT THIS IS TRUE EVEN IF IMMIGRANTS HAVE "NEGATIVE" IMPACT BECAUSE THAT JUST MEANS WE PAY SHIT.
>>533659693>Now there are 3 working people for every pensioner. Now where do we get all the arse wipers from?Not asylum seekers, they need tardwranglers ... so then there are even less workers available.If we had social Darwinism like the US and didn't allow family reunification ... then even browns would be useful. Instead we have welfare and they chain migrate more useless eaters. We are giga fucked.
>>533659812People like can be shown multiple studies like the one in the OP, statistics on crimerates, and more, and none it will change your mind because you are either malevolent or a complete lemming.
>>533659867>News flash, economics is a science.No, it's fraud. Economists can't predict shit. >>533659936They literally do. Consumption is important because people consoom less as they age which directly impacts national credit and bond rates. Plus they have babies which Europeans kinda gave up on.
>>533659939>there has to be a very good reason for ityes: Taxes.Which is why you'll see the same stats in Ireland, but not in Poland.
>>533660001Only 4% of immigrants are asylum seekers and even then they usually work. Thats why all the delivery drivers in this country can't speak a word of english.
>>533659693They just make the problem worse, not better. They devalue labor, including ass wiping. Also immigration doesn't stop a population from aging. I know you will not believe me, but I emplore you to look it up.
>>533657194germany let me become a citizen please
>>533659812Then you have to force them to work.Not give them free homes, a welfare check and let them bring in their parents.
>>533659940>that immigration is a simple consequence of ageing population plus a welfare state. Dumb. >if you want a generous welfare state for pensioners you need to import a lot of brown people to do the shit work And dumber. >NOTE THAT THIS IS TRUE EVEN IF IMMIGRANTS HAVE "NEGATIVE" IMPACT BECAUSE THAT JUST MEANS WE PAY SHIT.Many Western and Japanese immigrants manage to be a net-positive. Curious.
>>533660099>They just make the problem worse, not better. They devalue labor, including ass wiping.Devaluing labour is a good thing. If the price of labour goes up that's called high inflation. >Also immigration doesn't stop a population from aging.Sure it does. We keep importing more immigrants. >>533660106We hardly have any homes to start with. A few browns getting council houses doesn't change the fact most of them live in incredibly shit rented slums.
>>533657194Do you guys think, is this a crazy theory, lots of these people are seriously trying to bring down The West through its welfare systems? This is an actual stated goal of Imams somewhere in Middle Eastern mosques? Just seems like they do all right in their own countries.The Africans are actually retarded.
>>533657194>looks at average somaliwho could have seen this coming?
>>533659127Sorry paco but in reality its the first gen here that's hard working by comparison. the latter generations figure out the neetbux and are even more frequently full time jihadis
>>533660088Majority are still unemployed after 8 years.4%, but a huge drag on resources.
>>533659830Their true motivation is clear. And it's not just governments but also private interests.
>>533660106Some of you people are so fucking stupid.
>>533660024no it isnt you retard, the people dont benefit from a bunch of imported niggers consooming more groceries>Plus they have babies which Europeansno they dont, 90% of them are male and incels
>>533660275Many of the "unemployed" are employed but just claiming benefits. Again, the cause of this is that the pay for these jobs is shit.Is there fraud? Obviously. Is it more significant than the harm that would be done if we shut the doors? Absolutely not.
>>533657194Somalis are awesome. They just show up take advantage of you and win. Nothing you can do about it. It's biological symbiosis like a cuckoo bird laying its eggs in the nest of another species and cucking the fuck out of it. This is evolution doing its thing. The Earth keeps going around and around like this
>>533658186This fella gets it. Give a drunk 20 bucks and he is stimulating the economy at the liquor store as possibly one of the most valuable members of society. Priceless.
>shitskins are costly and uselessNo shit. Black space doesn't grow crops, the sun does.
>>533660024>Plus they have babies which Europeans kinda gave up on.You are so fucking stupid it hurts.
>>533658186> unemployed contributeYes. A lot.of orgs and "businessmen" are profiting off of the human bio weapons. This costs everyone money + you get lazy stealing niggers in return for all this money grabbing.
>>533660400>Again, the cause of this is that the pay for these jobs is shit.nope>Absolutely not.An obvious lie.
>>533657194>Is immigration worth it?The unwanted aliens are not imported to improve your life or to improve your country. The unwanted aliens are imported to dispossess you from your own country. They are imported to de-nationalize your country. Then, when you get angry at your dispossession, the government implements "civil rights" laws to make you a second class citizen in your OWN COUNTRY.
>>533657194The future should have been Europeans and East Asians.But the semites couldn't stand that.
>>533660400What harm would be done if you closed the doors? Young families could buy homes? You wouldn't be able to live out your cuck fetish of having your women and girls raped? You'd lose out on 2 am kebab?
Whoa the african black as night career criminal with 60IQ who never held a job and has stabbed 5 people since arriving in eurocuckistan is NOT generating revenue?! How could this have happened!?
>>533660549Most workers in shit but important jobs like delivery, supermarket shelf stacking, arse wiping and prison guarding are claiming some kind of welfare benefit. Some of them do the work under the table. We're still better off for them being here because we can't MAGICALLY MAKE MORE LABOUR OUT OF NOWHERE YOU RETARD.People who are against immigration without understanding the core demographic and financial reasons it exists are stupid conspiracy theorists.
The destruction of your race and way of life is intentional. Herve Ryssen - Understanding the Jews, Understanding Anti-Semitism (2014).pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/gqxfw9.pdf
>>533657194looks like white people are good and black people are bad on average
>>533660625Massive inflationLabour shortagesVery little nursing care and healthcare Bond market panicNational debt exploding Economic stagnationBasically we'd have several Japanese "Lost Decades"
>>533660024Because it's social science, retard. It's a field *still currently being studied*. It is the literal scientific study of the economy, and the variables that play into that.>can't predict shitExcept they do, regularly.>plus they have babies which Europeans kinda gave up on.You are the European we gave up on. Just you. You are a prime example of why white people no longer want to associate with white people. Because you are violently stupid, and feel empowered to put that violent stupidity on full display for all of us, just to satiate some desire to be indignant about YOURSELF.If whites start reproducing at scale again, I sincerely hope we, as a collective, leave you out of it.
>>533660347>533660347>533660473no he's right you guys are just mega retards that conflate "something good for the economy" == "something good for me" which is entirely false if you don't own any capital which 90% of the population does not. the people who directly benefit for western neo liberal economics are the people who want to import endless hordes of 3rd world immigrants because they:a. have babies because you won't b. consume endless material slop because you won'twhich are both necessary to make profit lines go up forever
>>533660891>social scienceSocial science is also not a science. > It is the literal scientific study of the economyNo, that's what economics CLAIMS to be.In reality it's a bunch of pseudo-scientific claptrap with formulas that was concocted to justify whatever neolib politicians wanted to do (make companies richer).
>>533658186You actually can reduce most immigrants to a single number. Do you really have to do a deep analysis on what an unemployed Somali or a Jamaican manning the counter of a convenience store is contributing to NZ society with their presence? No, you don't. You can intuitively know that they are a massive drag on society and if the actual cost of having them in the country was borne by their employer, they wouldn't be employed. Instead, the state subsidizes cheap foreign labor for businesses or worse, the country doesn't even get any labor from a retarded 67 IQ nigger and the state pays for retard daycare for them while they probably go on to rape someone.
>>533660766Sounds like all your issues are actually the product of a kiked monetary system that requires infinite growth and cheap labor. That and boomers refusing to die. I'm sure importing the third world won't exacerbate the fact that your economy is tied to the petrol dollar and servicing debt. You work in the city of London or something? Everything you said would be a good thing in the long term. This talmudic system needs to die. The cure to Japanese lost decades is the German economic miracle.
>>533657194because literally no one from these countries want to move to the Netherlands, only some very specific specialists that are well paid are willing to move there from these countries and the immigrant population consists of a very small select group of well paid specialists, How retarded you can be to compare these two.
>>533661037>we don't need immigration we just need to kill all the boomers and move to a fantasy economic systemyeah this is why we do in fact need immigration, because the only people against it are fucking dumb like you
>>533657194>we could have had 2 qt rice whores instead of 1 somaliangrim
>>533657194If you believe X statistics, you are not white. You are indian or a yankee mutt
I think the whole point was a Jewish wet dream where ww3 would happen and tons of people would get drafted. And then global civil war happens and all the different people everywhere would fight. Kike pipe dream. Slow moving train wreck
>>533657194full list here
>>533657194It's time for the TOTAL NIGGER DEATH anthem before the actual TOTAL NIGGER DEATH.https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1775328650244804.webm
>>533661000https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yX_1gJ_51M
>>533661163Sure the debt dollars are real economics and the economy of labor and materials that brought the reich out of Weimar conditions is fake. I see why your island cucked to kikes back in the day. Oh well we're the primary golem and about to get rug pulled next.
>>533660677>Most workers in shit but important jobs like delivery, supermarket shelf stacking, arse wiping and prison guarding are claiming some kind of welfare benefit.Source? My guess is that you are making stuff up as you go. Besides, no need for immigration to fulfill those jobs. >Some of them do the work under the table.Yes, their own half-legal economy. Often fully illegal. >We're still better off for them being hereNope>we can't MAGICALLY MAKE MORE LABOUR OUT OF NOWHERE YOU RETARDYou mean AI delivery systems like they have in China, which must run on Chinese magic soil? Retard. >People who are against immigration without understanding the core demographic and financial reasons it exists are stupid conspiracy theorists.Reasons have been posted itt. Your problem is that you are a dumbass.
>>533660677>MAGICALLY MAKE MORE LABOUR OUT OF NOWHERE YOU RETARD.Labor intensive economy is something that we should strive away from anyway and go towards higher capital intensity. You have an insane fixation of increasing labor supply by destroying value (along with culture, stability, overall intelligence, everything) while praying that in the future this by sheer luck reverses. What you're doing is that you're bringing in a permanent new dependent class on top of pensioners etc and whatever miniscule value they bring with labor is instantly destroyed via welfare.
TOTALTRAITORDEATHSOON
>>533661417>Labor intensive economy is something that we should strive away from anywayLet the goyim deal in the real world>>533661398> AI delivery systemsOK we'll replace all human jobs with fantasy robots in two more weeks I promise lol
>>533661553>OK we'll replace all human jobs with fantasy robots in two more weeks I promise lolWho said 2 weeks, retard? It's a longterm choice the Chinese made, and they are alot smarter than you.
>>533660677>We can't magically make more laborMaybe have more babies? If you don't have room to house them or food to feed them maybe you could get rid of arabs and jeets that do?
>>533660565>the government implements "civil rights" lawsThey were imposed by the US golem.Human rights didn't exist before WW2. The refugee convention and human rights were both creations of the US jews, as was the EU. All weapons for a slow motion white genocide.
>>533661633>Maybe have more babies?Yeah almost like that's the central fucking problem hereWell, the problem is, bubbeleh, that women don't wanna do it.
>>533661553You don't have a clue what even the basic concepts such as capital and labor intensity mean, as I suspected. You have zero economic argument and once again all this condenses into this total insanity and obsession of bringing in people who are incapable of ever assimilating properly. You deserve the rope.
>>533661633>Maybe have more babies? If you don't have room to house them or food to feed them maybe you could get rid of arabs and jeets that do?Europe is tired ... it rallied behind fascism, but by sheer bad luck the jews had recently completely infiltrated the US leadership and Europe got fucked.The broken remnants got 80 years of psyops and demoralisation. It's over, maybe enough kids will still have the energy to slam the door, but rebuilding is not going to happen.
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>>533661774>incapable of ever assimilating properlyYou mean what everyone's said about every immigrant ever?
>>533657194The material cost or benefits are meaningless to me, I just don't want to see ugly brown faces whenever I go outside.
>>533662743Put your eyes out, problem solved
>>533658186We need fermented goat meat and delivery drivers
Here is an idea:end all handoutsso immigrant has to earn money by producingkill all jewban univeristy bank corp markets kign sets prices n prints money for white menfree slave girls and castles for whtie menflibe.com free energygreenarrays.com replacs big tek0 immigraiton or aid0tradeend scarcity here by mass productionburn hydrogen in machinessell minorities n older women
>>533662567Somehow Western immigrants don't have the same problems. Curious.
>>533660549Based gypsies union.
>>533662800They smell as well, and they make weird clicking sounds when speaking in their gross nigger babble
>>533662914people have been sperging out over rapey foreigners since biblical times
>>533662567We have actual data now. Gypsies have had hundreds of years and they're a complete drain and destroy value. Somalian employment rates have never reached sustainable level even with the new generation and their level of education is gypsy tier. Same play is unfolding with muslim sandniggers. We have a very good idea what foreign populations will assimilate properly and won't become a permanent dependent population on top of all the others.
>>533662961just cut the dick off
>>533662914Crimerates in Sweden
>>533659127You're entirely wrong and if you're White you should be hanged for treason for advocating multiculturalism but you're not so you should simply be shot on sight. As >>533660274 pointed out the 2nd and further gen migrants are even worse because at least sometimes the 1st gen migrants knowing what kind of shitholes they come from, they work and keep their head down because they know they can be deported as they're not citizens. But when their anchorbaby drops and have citizenship they form migrant gangs that rape and thieve and sell drugs and now because they have citizenship we can't get fucking rid of them either.Or at least according to jews we can't, because muh international law and so on.In reality people should wake the FUCK UP and start killing all the jews and the shitskins they dragged in
>>533662961Rape is mainly a brown issue, as you can see in the pic. Always the same trend.
>>533662999Reminder that the poster you are responding to is either stupid or malevolent.
>>533659127Later generations are worse; skilled immigrants will have lower IQ children (regression to the mean)
>>533663036Note that in reality the situation is even worse because thanks to picrel guy statistics aren't done by race, same is in Finland. So all 2nd and further gen migrants are counted as "Swedish", it says foreign-born people, while most of the shitskin criminals in sweden are local-born
>>533663233You can in fact see the shitskin crime spilling over here too, not just our own shitskin crime but Swedish shitskin crime.All these rapists that are "Swedish" are not Kalle or Johan.
>>533663109I don't care about rape. Destroying your country's economy because of a few extra rapes is retarded.
>>533663109>Rape is mainly a brown issue, as you can see in the pic. True.This shitskins being rapey mudslimes, actually goes into why shitskins dress their women as ghosts.See, there is actually nothing in quran that says you must drape women in curtains or not allow them to walk outside alone.But at some point, one of the inbred shitskins somehow higher IQ than 70, and realized that yes shitskins are animals who rape, and they cannot control their impulses because they're not human, so you can't really stop shitskins from raping. So to keep peace in a shitskin society, he realized that if you cant take the rape out of shitskin, you cant make shitskin human, what you can do is make the women unrapeable.That if you put the women in drapes, make her unappealing, the shitskinned monkey doesnt have the impulse to rape and the woman is safer.And if on top of that you make it a rule for woman to be always accompanied by male escort, that also protects her from shitskin rape.Now you of course got all these shitskins who say how "islam will save west" because they understand that stopping shitskin rape will require making women unappealing, just like back home. But of course that is not what we should do, instead we should pogrom the jews and drive out or bury the shitskins, and we can get life back to normalAnd anyone caught promoting multiculturalism needs to be hanged for treason
>>533657194These types of studies are generalistic and pretty shit. >Western immigrants: on average a net gain of about €25,000>Japan, North America, Oceania, UK, Scandinavia, SwitzerlandThe only people that would move from Switzerland to the Netherlands would do it for a pay bump thats higher than in Switzerland in their field. No one moves from the west to the west for less money.Clearly the Swedish aren´t moving to Italy to work as labourers in a factory for minimum wage.
deport non white inc mik wopkil jew
>>533663369Bringing in shitskins to give gibs to and rape our daughters is very very retarded.They don't improve our economy, they WORSEN it. So not only have we pay for the pensioners, now we ALSO have to pay for the shitskins.You talked about grandpas needing to have their asses wiped, the somalis and arabs aren't doing that at all. They will rather stay home on gibs or deal drugs because work like that is "beneath them" according to themselves.We can absolutely take temporary workers from south-east asia for example to wipe the asses, and actually have done that, they have no problem coming to Europe to do easy work of taking care of some elderly and then going back after earning some money.Only shitskinned parasite vermin like MENA shitskins and somali scammers and pajeet grifters have problems going back home.
>>533658186>All these poinst have already been taken into account which you would have know it you hadn't immediately jumped to your preferred conclusion and actually read the study. It's a complete book, hundreds of pages long. I have it, you don't. The author's name is Jan van der Beek. He has been boycotted by Dutch press until the goyim started to notice and he could no longer be ignored. Then they tried to debunk his numbers and again that didn't work. He used very detailed information from the governments own statistical agency. He also laid out how they use gatekeepers to block people like him but eventually he got the records anyway.
>>533663401Christ can heal you from your same-sex attraction.
>>533658186No, you are literally retarded.
>>53366291453) You, Mohammed Karrar, prepared her for gang anal rape by using a pump to expandher anal passage. You subjected her to a gang rape by five or six men (count 30). At onepoint she had four men inside her. A red ball was placed in her mouth to keep her quiet.Not only were you both involved in the commercial sexual exploitation of GH, you alsoused her for your own self-gratification. You both raped her when she was under 13.When she was very young, although it is not clear whether she was under 13, you bothraped her at the same time (oral and vaginal/anal). It happened on more than one occasion(Count 28)54) Mohammed Karrar, on one occasion when GH was 12, after raping her, shethreatened you with your lock knife. Your reaction was to pick up a baseball bat with asilver metal handle, strike her on the head with it, and then insert the baseball bat insideher vagina. You treated her as if she was your commodity. You branded her (with yourinitial near her anal passage) using a hot hair pin. If GH did not comply with your wishes,if you were not with other people, you would lose your temper with her. As part of thegrooming, you would provide her with crack cocaine and you injected GH with heroinon numerous occasions (Count 40).>https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Judgments/sentencing-remarks-r-v-dogar-others.pdfMeanwhile jewish NGOs put building sized ads about "Sex with refugees is jasmin-scented and beautiful" its does feel at this point that they're just gloating and rubbing it in your face that they've won that you aren't pogroming them.The thing is though the infinite jewish hubris has historically been the thing which make the goyim snap and pogrom the jews. That its not enough they destroy your society, but they gloat about it.All the shit like anti-racism laws are their gloating, like "we are fucking up your country and we're making it illegal for you to even talk back"
>>533657194I like how there is no mention of Jam boys, Jam heads, or any other doodoo nigger covered in JAM! Because it’s already been established they are the equivalent of biblical locusts.
>>533663401That doesn't change anything the study still paints a good picture about which populations are detrimental to the host.
>>533663673He is retarded but he's also a kike or some other type of nonwhite who is arguing dishonestly and lying because he doesn't want to get pogromed / sent back to his own home.Like all of them always do.
>>533661709>They were imposed by the US golem.The jews invented civil rights laws. They used all of their implicit victim categories as a foil to whittle down the rights of the normal sane White native population. It's one of their biggest scams.
>>533663401Low IQ, violent, rapey, immigrants are bad. Simple.
>>533663103The King and Queen of Sweden gave this devious evil jew a medal for destroying their country with niggers. Barbara_Lerner_Spectre_-_Jewish_Transformation_of_Europe.webmhttps://files.catbox.moe/e5wd5t.webm
>>533664018A dumb employee is better than no employees
>>533663704>https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/JCO/Documents/Judgments/sentencing-remarks-r-v-dogar-others.pdfWorse than I expected. All Pakis should be deported and those guilty of childrape/grooming should be hanging from a tree.
>>533664080No, they actually cost more than they pay in taxes. Are you retarded? Of course you are.
>>533659939howcome you picked sweden? we all know the memes, but the taxes rape you there too. you living rurally? that can be divine, I have family in the woods out there
>>533660216>devaluing labour is a good thing>import more immigrants>a few browns getting council housesyou're a piece of shit
>>533658186>Economics>in /pol/This boards average IQ is like 100 at best
>>533657194Mexicans are more productive and contributing than Scandies, confirmed.
>>533658186Important jobs, like what, pretending to be nurses in NHS so actual nurses with actual salaries don't get hired and people die from unqualified help?
>>533658186>>533659355>>533659551You're a retarded anti-white dreg, blacks don't deserve our money and you should be deported along with them.
>>533664080No, that business should not exist.
I stayed at a hotel in Canada a few years ago, funny African guy recommended a bar within walking distance. Made friends with the bartender, he said the guy has been on paternity leave 2/3 of the time for the past 10 years, owner of hotel can't get rid of him.
>>533658186>This doesnt follow because you can't reduce the impact of immigration to a single numberI agree, that's why we need rape statistics, murder statistics, robberies, general crimes, etc....or is that too racist and antisemitic for you?
>>533663369>>533660677Lets take the literal scenario in your example:>Afghan comes to UK>Claims benefits, social housing, etc, read: his existence in your country is supported by taxes>Illegally works as a delivery driver for some app without paying taxes>App company makes money off of his laborIn this scenario the app company is essentially getting government-subsidized labor. If you're in favor of cuckolding your country by supporting the direct transfer of taxpayer money into some kike billionaire's private bank account - just state it plainly.>inb4 natives won't work jobs that pay below a livable wageAn abundance of cheap labor doesn't benefit the average citizen in any way. Unless you're actually low iq enough to believe that corporations reduce prices of goods and services based on reduced labor costs instead of just maximizing their profits.
>>533664195The value of a job isn't the same as what the job pays. If I'm stacking shelves or wiping arses and I'm claiming benefits that doesn't mean I'm a net negative. It just means there's a hidden subsidy for my job.
>>533664080If you're White, you should be tried for high treason, and subsequently hanged.If you're a nigger, a Jew or a pajeet, you should just be shot on sight.
>>533664835I mean it. We are going to kill you at some point in the not too distant future.
>>533664822>In this scenario the app company is essentially getting government-subsidized labor. Yes exactly you get it. These low wage jobs where people are on welfare are subsidized labour.>If you're in favor of cuckolding your country by supporting the direct transfer of taxpayer money into some kike billionaire's private bank account - just state it plainly.It's not a transfer to the business owner it's a transfer to the public who benefit from cheap labour. ESPECIALLY the boomers who benefit from nursing and health labour and aren't in competition with anyone.
>>533664929>It's not a transfer to the business owner it's a transfer to the public who benefit from cheap labour.The public gains from more net-takers who cost more than they pay in taxes? Retard.
>>533664382Most economic talk is sub 100 IQ shit. The "we need migrants to keep the GDP going up" crowd is sub 70iq.
>>533665028This is why democracy is a bad idea. Most people are like you, absolutely retarded pieces of shit who don't understand the most basic economic facts about the labour market. This is why Britain voted for Brexit and then wondered why South Asian immigration quadrupled.
>>533657194May I see this report? Your dumb AI generated slop article doesn't appear to have any link.IZA study doesn't mean anything to me.I'm not even being callous I genuinely would like to use the graphs and tables allegedly in this report. But I simply doubt any study would be able to collect let alone publish such figures in our society.
>>533664929The boomers should be forcibly euthanized if they don't have family who are willing to pay for their upkeep. The notion that we should just utterly destroy our societies and give away our birthright for all of eternity just so that ONE GENERATION of old entitled fucks can have a couple more years of barely life before they gracelessly expire anyway is... evil beyond comprehension. It's abominable, and anyone thinking its a sane proposition must be KILLED.Fuck the boomers, fuck their pensions, fuck the care system, let them die, and if they refuse to die, KILL THEM.
>>533665100Democracy is a bad idea, and people like you would be killed under any sane system of governance.
>>533665177Well the boomers have more voting power than you and they disagree with you, so deal with it. They want infinite benefits and the way we do that without taxing people literally to death is by having a fuck load of immigration from poor countries. At least you now see the cause and effect.
>>533664929>let's undercut everyone's salaries so that John Bull, a 60 y.o. homeowner with lots of savings, has cheap healthcareYou explained why boomers vote for it, you didn't explain how this in any way benefits the productive part of society
>>533658513>This is retarded bullshit based on companies from those countries setting up 'letter box companies' to push money through for lower tax rates.Was about to write this. All immigrants are beggars or petty criminals.
>>533660677Imagine posting this drivel simply because you are a disgusting, brown animal that’s regrettably been allowed into a country of actual humans. You’ll never be British and you’ll never be white
>>533665100>This is why democracy is a bad idea. Most people are like you, absolutely retarded pieces of shit who don't understand the most basic economic facts about the labour market. Look in the mirror for a good example of such a person. You raelly are stupid.>This is why Britain voted for Brexit and then wondered why South Asian immigration quadrupled.Decreasing immigration was the main reason the British public voted for Brexit, and then they got stabbed in the back.
>>533665302Almost everyone benefits from cheap labour except the lower classes in direct competition with the immigrants and they're all on benefits for fake mental health conditions these days anyway.The educated productive part of society benefits because it doesn't bankrupt them to get a kitchen extension or put their mothers into care homes.
>>533665268>They want infinite benefits and the way we do that without taxing people literally to death is by having a fuck load of immigration from poor countries.By importing people who cost more in government expenses than they pay in taxes? Another genius post.
>>533657194>South Asia not on the list
>>533665442>Almost everyone benefits from cheap labour except the lower classes in direct competition with the immigrants and they're all on benefits for fake mental health conditions these days anyway.Liar>The educated productive part of society benefits because it doesn't bankrupt them to get a kitchen extension or put their mothers into care homes.Yeah, no get a kitchen extension or put their parents in a care home before mass immigration. You are a genius.
>>533665457>By importing people who cost more in government expenses than they pay in taxes?That doesn't matter even if it's true. We're still getting useful labour out of them that we couldn't get any other way. It's just government subsidized labour, i.e. a hidden benefit to the citizens.
>>533660677This is either a retard or a well-poisoning shill from an opinion-shaping private company.
>>533665268I always saw it, dead meat. The boomers are dying out, they don't have many years left. It's shame we probably won't speed up their demise, but still, they are on their way out. What then? We're still stuck with the subhumans. Well, you are, we didn't import millions of them, and we never will at this point, because our society isn't completely blind.>>533665442Ok, that's an Indian. Should've been able to tell earlier, this is how streetshitting, subhuman pajeets think, not White men.
>>533665546>We're still getting useful labour out of them that we couldn't get any other way. Automation, AI-powered service, decreasing benefits to get more people to work, having more kids, etc. All are obviously better choices. >hidden benefit to the citizens.Crime and poverty is awesome.
>>533665604It's a Jeet, DESPERATE to convince itself that its "people" aren't literally a plague of locusts unleashed upon the West by their Jewish masters.>>533665546Curse Vishnu, streetshitter.
>>533665546How many net-drain, non-working family members does every bame bring to the country they slither into? The data is out there, can you post it?
>>533665442>Almost everyone benefits from cheap labour except most of the populationBrilliant argument, Thatcher would be proud of you. Also cheap labour is bad labour, always. This is the broken window fallacy of labour. You need 3 or 4 pakis to do the job of a single English nurse. Nobody benefits from cheap labour when cheap labour doesn't actually do its job.
>>533659355>losing a million dollars a year to ass wipers is fineI'm not dreaming, yet someone still said this. Kek.
>>533665681>Automation, AI-powered service,Ah yes magic robots. Coming in just two more weeks>decreasing benefits to get more people to workElectoral poison>having more kidsGiga electoral poison and absolutely impossibleWomen screech and shit themselves if anyone so much as suggests they do their duty to society by having a few kidsAnd they vote in a bloc so deal with itAs you can see mass immigration makes people grumble but it's the least bad alternative!
>>533665546>That doesn't matter even if it's true.And btw, it does matter. Obviously.
>>533665763Answer my question.
>>533664297yep, taxes suck but live rurally. could not be happier, but dont tell this place
>>533665763>Ah yes magic robots. Coming in just two more weeksChina has drone deliveries, self-driving taxis/trucks, automated ports/factories/warehouses, etc, all up and running today, and that is oly the beginning. But you don't know this and have now proven yourself to be both dumb AND ignorant. >Electoral poisonLowe seems to be doing well.>Giga electoral poison and absolutely impossibleNope>As you can see mass immigration makes people grumble but it's the least bad alternative!It is the worst alternative, obviously. You are too dumb and ignorant to see it.
>>533665763You are a disgusting, subhuman brownoid parasite, and your entire kind must be exterminated for the good of humanity. You will never be anything more than a filthy, swarthy, dysgenic, inbred raperat. You should kill yourself.
what the fuck type of scams are Somalis doing to waste so much moneyit's beyond parody how the best thing these "people" can do is ruthlessly scam and abuse welfare programs meant help the actually needy.
>>533666347No no, you don't understand, its just "subsidised labour", they are totally worth it, and only low IQ low class proles have a problem with them
>>533657194Lazy brits! I spit!
>>533658186The point of statistics/data/science/education/debate is not to represent anything or reach any truth, it is to justify my beliefs that we should kill everyone if it doesn't do that it is useless. This is the belief of an honest fascist.
>>533664297As far as I bother knowing, Sweden is probably more predictable than the UK. If you can avoid dealing with individual government drones it can get pretty comfy.t. keeps running into palefaces from blightyThis country does shit itself if you get trapped between agencies as they blatantly refuse to communicate.
>>533657194>Somalians literally scientifically proved to be the most worthless immigrants on earth
>>533658186ypipo only care about money, nothing else. The immigrants are just cash cows for them.
>>533659127Sure, sure...
>>533666218LMAO, watch him disappear as soon as he gets called out.
>>533665165https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5077481&utm_source=chatgpt.com
>>533657194Why are you operating on the retarded mindset that immigration has economic purpose? It's White Genocide. Stop calling it any other name, stop pointing at other things. Fuck jews.
>>533657194
This thread reminds me of this piece of lulz from 4 years ago.Go look at employment rates per nationality to actually see who actually contributes.
>>533668335>actually>actuallyakshualeeeI should sleep. ffs.
I honestly believe they cost us way more than thatRemember that twitter user was revealed to be a shitskin Indian as well
>>533657194Oh look white stats kept the blacks as slaves an impoverished. imagine my surprise.
>>533657194where the blax guns company anon.. scum.,.
i want blacks to start they own weapons industry now that japan is selling weapons an arms.I would squish a japanese head with me boot.,.
>>533658186>This doesnt follow because you can't reduce the impact of immigration to a single number. Immigrants can still work important jobs even with a "negative" overall contribution and even unemployed migrants contribute to economic consumption and demand. >>Economists have always been full of shit and right wingers should be more skeptical when economists talk about anything even if it confirms their preconceived ideas.and that matters how? No one wants to live around niggers, no wants to chance their daughter getting raped by niggers. Send the niggers back where they belong to live and die in their shithole.
>>533669371who cares? your ancestors imported them for economic reasons, the same reasons we import lots of immigrants today.
>>533658186>Saaaaar
Kill every single non white because they are ugly and retarded
>>533669633even me you moor rape baby nigger?
>>533669550Imported you, shitskinned parasite. You are either an indian or a paki, which btw is the same damned thing. You aren't even human.
>>533669999CheckedWhy do you worship hitler, when he'd have gassed you before me?
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>>533658186>>533660024Bro, you can just use the govt debt to purchase those goods directly and burn them in a huge pit, skip the rape!
>>533660594It can still be so
>>533658186I don't want them here. You're prob a paki faggot.
>>533672317the collective preference of your own country as communicated by the dollar value of migrant labour says otherwise
>>533659355I'd rather him die with dignity
>>533657194So basically only allow Europeans and Japanese immigrants into your country, everyone else is a net loss dragging everyone down with them. Keep in mind the net loss group also try to terraform your country to make it reflect the shithole country they are from. Spics, nigger, muslims, indians, etc. they all do this. This is something else you do not see from Europeans or Japanese immigrants making them an overwhelmingly net positive for your country.
>>533672499you haven't seen many people die have you
>>533670057I couldn't care less about Hitler, he's been dead for a very long time, so he's not gassing anyone. We, however, will absolutely gas you and your entire family.
>>533659127>It is only the first-generation immigrants because I say so>The second-generation immigrants might not fuck your country over as much or at least you can hope they don'tWhy take the risk? Why is it your country/your people's responsibility to hope successive generations don't fuck you over. The common sense thing to do would be keep them out period.
>>533672639Based Polack.
>>533658186if immigrants doing important jobs are a liability, it clearly isn't working out>unemployed migrants contribute to muh gdp>
>>533672594I've seen both my grandfathers and my father die- with dignity, because we didn't bend over backwards to keep them alive with unnatural means. I have also actually worked in the medical industry, servicing ventilator equipment often used in long term care for the old and infirm. It's not a life I would wish upon my greatest enemy. It's far, FAR more preferable to die when you still have all your faculties and a modicum of your strength and vitality left. To be bedbound and at the mercy of others is HELL, those people are utterly miserable and we're doing them no favours by keeping them alive.People under 40 are currently rethinking this whole insane system, and there's going to be some changes made. There will be no need for shitskinned "carers" going forward. The very notion that its an acceptable deal is utterly mad and evil. The old should not be the sole focus of society, their "comfort" is not the sole priority of our lives, and I will personally kill every fucking cocksucker who says with a straight face that we have to LITERALLY SURRENDER THE FUTURE OF OUR PEOPLE so that old farts don't have to die at their appointed time, so help me God
>>533658186>even unemployed migrants contribute to economic consumption and demand.where do they get the money from retard?If government is printing it, then they are not contributing, if they are using taxes money, might as well leave the money with the original owner so the original owner spends it. By definitition an unemployed person cant consume because they dont have money retard
>>533671294>picjesus...
>>533657194Yeah but the People on the lower half of the image dosent have an education. They could contribute but its hard when you dont know what to do.I think everyone should help them to fix their countries tho because its better of Everyone has their own country where they can be themselfs.A world where everyone is mixed up gets sterile. There is nothing new to see anywhere. No new culture. No new meetings. Just a cultural Desert.
>>533657194A small price to pay for virtue-signaling against all the supposed most evil crimes that our ancestors and our ancestors alone did to other peoples.
>>533659355>>533659693>get replaced to help the living deadtwo wrongs don't make a rightthere's no solution to elderly crisis except timecreating a new problem (You) to postpone an old problem is peak societal death
>>533659593That's what my family is planning to do towards Canada.For the record I am against it, it would help if you euros stopped funding Juntos Por el Peru, Peru Libre, also you need to stop trying to help Cuba and Venezuela and their master Russia, they promote all the political and social behaviours which create all these migrations, why do you think Japan is such a developed non-white society? That buy who killed the commienigger with his sword saved his nation from commieniggerism
How to save one's nation in one picture.
>>533657194It's self-evident that a less skilled person interested in "benefits" is a net loss for society compared to a doctor or an engineer.
>>533663369Btw, don't think we didn't notice that little gem, you shitskinned subhuman filth. This right here is the reason why I genuinely believe ALL of you need to die. There is just no understanding possible between us, no dialogue to be had.You need to die. All of you.
>>533657194Third world darkies are a negative value burden to society. That is a fact. At the very least they should be sterilized because they are an existential threat to civilization. The reason they’re considered good for the economy is because more money goes in to the economy. But it’s your money. It’s suicidal
>>533657194>europeons constantly shit on Americans>we're the richest motherfuckers on your continent
