Previous: >>533660035Day 1,519 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>EU's €90bn loan for Ukraine and the 20th sanctions package against russia provisionally approved; formal procedure to conclude on Thursday, EU presidency says>Ukraine has repaired the damaged section of the Druzhba oil pipeline damaged by russian shelling - Zelenskyy>Smoooking accident at the Tuapse refinery>Smoooking accident at the Fosagro chemical plant in Cherepovets>Szijjártó (orbán's FM) has barricaded himself with some of his closest colleagues and is shredding documents related to the sanctions on russia and any other evidence of treason>Hungarian PM candidate Magyar talks of 'pragmatic' ties with moscow but clearly sides with Ukraine on war: russia is the aggressor in the war, Ukraine has the right for self determination, Ukraine's territorial integrity must be respected, etc., he is happy with the €90bn Ukraine deal as agreed in December last year (which included an opt-out for Hungary)>Magyar does not support Ukraine's fast-track EU accession but he will do everything in his power to diversify oil and gas sources and routes for Hungary (=less reliance on russia)>The kremlin will not congratulate Magyar on his election victory in Hungary; it is an unfriendly country - Peskov>Opposition party TISZA gains 2/3 supermajority in the Hungarian parliamentary election (orbán on suicide watch)>After 16:00 and by day's end, 1,723 russian ceasefire violations were recorded>Ukraine reaches a milestone: making ‘China-free’ drones▶Telegramrentry.org/telosint2023t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelt.me/DeepStateENodin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapsdeepstatemap.live/enliveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOURS 1-4: files.catbox.moe/mpcw7p.zip▶12 min of TZD in one ditch (Pokrovsk area) - 28 killedfiles.catbox.moe/sxbxfb.mp4 (embed)
Total Zigger Hotdoggization
TZDEEEEE
kill all ziggers and zigger shills
desert storm on steroid status?
90 billion € for dead zigger content
>EU's €90bn loan for Ukraine and the 20th sanctions packagemosquew are you ready?
>>533668126
damn i realized i was still rocking an name
He looks sad :( why is he not happy that he would be freed from hohol existence (if it even can be called existence) in 1 second?
>Russia’s Tuapse oil refinery and Black Sea export facility continued to suffer a catastrophic blaze days after it was hit by a Ukrainian drone attack.>Locals report that crude oil continues to rain on the city for a third day in a row.Sniffbros, where you at lmao
>>533668213ritter has desert storm in his pants whenever he gets close to a child.
>>533668213i love these timeless classics
>>533668213Gloves are off and eyebrows are raised
All of these shitskin niggers tryiing to NOOOOTROOOL aand begging Ukraine to give up when the end is clearly in sightReminder shitskin commie niggersRUSSIA STARTED THIS WARRUSSIA LOST THIS WARAND THERE'S NOTHING YOU COMMIE NIGGER SHITSKINS CAN DO ABOUT IT KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>533668072>Ukraine and NATO can't beat some mongoloid churkas with Mosins in 4 years
>>533668072what's the difference between a russnigger shill and a gay?answer: the gay has less pictures saved of ashton cirillo on his computer
>>533668243Jansa is coming back in Slovenia, so he'll probably block any further aid packages and keep the seat warm until Orban returns to power.
>>533668072When will the pigkraine stop losing?
>>533668329SNIFFAROO
>>533668404 ua isnt in natonato literally dumping old mchinery and ammo on ukraine out of solidarity russia attacks a nato state, you will see what NATO support will look like for real. they will rename western russia into Ketchup land as blood will be visible from space boyrussoid loving nazi cunt
>>533668329What is air defense doing?
What's the difference between a russian and an oxcart of shit?The oxcart.
>>533668317Damn... Dying for zelenigger is so miserable
>>533668547>SNIFFAROOUkraine is so kind, they gave everyone in Tuapse a personal share of russias oil wealth. And free bonus cancer!
>w-we're fighting all of nato!!!
>>533668634pfffft ahahaha anon I didn't know you did standup comedy
i can't honestly image after all these years of war and cuck/corruption there would be anyone actually still shilling for fucking russia or putin. its got to be outsourced africans at this point.
If only you knew how brown things really are
>>533668673Uhoh, air defense cuckolds had a premature detonation lmao
>>533668383How does anyone even follow Scott Ritter? is it bots? he's an open pedophile that has to hide in a foreign country because of his disgusting crimes at home. and he just lies at every single possible moment. he has never once told the truth about anything.
>>533668673celebratory fireworks!
>>533668329with the 90s billion we might get a tuapse or a ust luga every day and I think thats wonderful.the sniffing will continue until air defenses will improve(they wont).
>>533668832>at this point.it's been outsourced to shitskin since the very begining
>>533668832Always has been.
So you think you're going to bash the fash -WITHOUT JEWS- who have been the key element since time immemorial? Do you retards want to win the war or not? I have demands.-We need a pipeline from thr Persian gulf to Israel-We need gazi up to wadi gaza and Litani river and mass expulsion of arabs-no f35 for saudia arabiaTry me fuckers
It's about time for some nice big thick red arrows.
>>533668634>naziwhy are you using it as an insult? are you some kind of a leftist?
>>533668898because he says things that people want to hear and believe, same shit as with that mearsheimer guy constantly getting proven wrong and retarded but because they have a certain type of credentials people eat up the slop and ignore contradicting information
>>533668832Don't underestimate the amount of braindead retards who think being a frantic contrarian makes them seem smart, anon. I know one personally, these people will never accept any facts.
>>533668384That was so cringe that they really tried to make a run for Kiev and 3 years later they still can't subdue Ukraine. >we were merely pretending as a diversion
>>533668964i dont have twitter but i herad about the nuclear fallout from this when they released everyones locations. fucking kek>>533669086what could they possibly want to hear or believe? he talks about nothing except how great russian security services are, and normal people of any nation don't want anything to do with their nation's security services. so you have to be completely deranged, and again, hes a fucking pedophile first and foremost. any opinion after that is not relevant.
>>533668832it's their job, pic related, imagine being paid minimum wage working 60 hours a week to shit up an anonymous anime forum and do so gladly, they're a slave race
>>533669090facts are the opinions you agree with, and opinions you disagree with are dis-/misformation. I know your type very well anon
faggot russnigger posting his tranny folder again HAHHAHAHAHA
ziggers... ziggers never change.
are we still kekarooooin' fellas?
>>533669207they have their own set of beliefs and want a stronger authority figure to validate those feelings basically the trannies of geopolitical discussion who circlejerk within their own thought bubble devoid of any critical thinking abilities
>>533668832
>>533669311>memeflag >b...bu...but everyone else is a shill!kek you jews are funny.
>>533668710
>>533669354how did it even cross the deranged minds of mentally ill nafo troons to have a tranny represent UAF ? like you couldn't be more transparently jewish than this, the thing is you couldn't find better useful idiots so you had to deal with whatever you could obtain LMAO
>>533669425WOW ruzza is losing the information war to THIS????
Ukie gf sent me good night photo lads.
>>533668329>Sniffbross...Right back here at you
>>533668230I made something 4 uhttps://files.catbox.moe/entre5.webm:3
wow, ruzza is being represented by a fat bald midget and they pretend to be a superpower???? embarrassing!
>>533669510>Ukie gflol k.Does she work in a brothel? what's up with the red light?
>Ukraine has repaired the damaged section of the Druzhba oil pipeline damaged by russian shelling - ZelenskyyHol up, it's done done now?
also blatant lying is something you only do from a position of POWER, to establish dominanceas in ' I just lied straight to your face and watcha gonna DO 'bout it gayboi ? 'Why do kikes always overestimate own (oven) capability, is the the chutzpah and meshugge frying their schizo joo brains?
>>533668832That's simple, they get new shills once the old ones get used up.
>>533668072TZD
>>533668329>>533668547That shit is pretty grim and terrible desu but after the continuous terror attacks by russia and especially things like the dam in kakhovka I cannot find it in myself to not be slightly schadenfrohThe Iranians didn't deserve it thoughever, even if the regime there can utterly go fuck itself for supporting vatniggerstan
Now someone post the zigger bitch that got sent to the front getting droned to mog on this zog >>533669660
>>533669425>t.
>>533668832the incredible things about Putin's russia is that it's so vague in everything that every flavor of self deluded westerners can project something onto it. putting said something about liberalism bad ? so marxist are supporting it. putin criticize western immigration ? so far right are with itputin criticize anti immigration ? so anti racist are with it. puting criticize the west ? so shitskin are with it. the thing is, when you're so hollow inside, everything can project their ideals and fantasy onto you, despite you being...well hollow
Pair of russtards get shot on their chang bikes.TZD
>It's real realHoly, we can't stop winningTZD
>>533669660She's near the front lines and not allowed to use normal lighting due to drone threats
>>533669331dial8 lmaovatnigeria is an abysmal shithole and Ukrainians don't want to be like that which is why the resist the kremlin regime among many other factors - FACT
>>533669753I gotchu homieZigger spawner down
>>533669870>>533669889why do wealthy juice of NYC all have 3 personal shrinks each and suffer from neuroticism, is the the schizophrenia coded in their inbred genes cooking their brains?
All of the shitskin nigger shills are on suicide watch after the >90 BILLION EUROS GOING TO KILL RUSSNIGGERS90 BILLION EUROS GOING TO KILL RUSSNIGGERSKEKAROOOO
AZOV is SUPER, SUPER!
>>533669207>what could they possibly want to believethat western hegemony is over and their country or other country that is friendly to them is rising to save the day from le evil american empire and le evil brussels empire
>danetroon is still maldinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ38MMJ2CHQyour purpose in life is to suck on /uhg/ dick daily.
>>533669746>That shit is pretty grim and terribleEveryone and everything there is fucked
>>533669998
>Lost Hungary>Lost their space program>Lost their stpidorsberg terminal>Lost iran>Lost the Zapo front>Lost china>Lost Telegram>Lost 2 submarines>Lost starlink>Lost 19 Generals(and counting KEKAROO)>Lost access to European LNG lines>Lost access to the Baltic Sea>Lost syria>Lost armenia>Lost azerbaijan>Lost vuvuzela>Lost transitria>Lost oil & gas>Lost entire tank fleet>Lost millions of men, so you have to replace them with jeet niggers>Lost every single miltech purchaser, since your shit industry has proven to be garbage>Lost economy>Lost reputation>Lost the WarAnd shitskin nigger shills simply can't deal with it LMAO
00:20 | 23/04Hohols are giving tuapussy a break
>>533669660>Does she work in a brothel? what's up with the red light?of course, thats where shes sending anon the photo fromin between shiftsUkrainian women were born for the brothel
>>533670072There's nothing left to set aflame, the entire commie nigger city is engulfed in RIGHTEOUS RETRIBUTTION KEKAROOO
>>533670072Only red(common) arrows today. We've been spoiled, now unless we have blue(rare) arrows I can't be satisfied
>>533669677€90bn is a great motivator.
>>533669964No I mean it was a close up shot of some female penal legion zigger that got sent to the front. I have it on my old pc but that piece of shit doesn't turn on any more.
seriously tough russtard survives direct fpv hitamazing
>>533668832I still think it's Triads, they have all the necessary organisation, infrastructure and connections.
>>533670027yupshould have left well enough alone but alas these things always move and fall on inertiagoing by this america is going to be so much more terrible in a few years and as in russia there will be and already are - as all have seen - evil retards here that will cheer upon the pain of death for this abysmal dogshit
>>533670072it's probably too dark and cloudy to hit anything kek
>EU's €90bn loan for Ukraine and the 20th sanctions package against russia provisionally approved; formal procedure to conclude on Thursday, EU presidency saysAnd not a moment too soon thank Christ. Well done to the EU anyway.
>>533670201This one?
>>533670072novgorod?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kstovo_refineryThe Kstovo Refinery, also known as Lukoil-Nizhegorodnefteorgsintez (Russian: Лyкoйл-Hижeгopoднeфтeopгcинтeз) is an oil refinery in the Russian city of Kstovo, one of the largest in the country.
>>533670367Every single day means less russians. Less russians tomorrow, less the day after.90 billion shows the world is committed to TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH.
Russias loses and failures cant be chalked up just to ''muh drones'' there is something else going on, i refuse to believe a competent superpower cant find a single solution to rc airplanes with bombs on them
>>533670367It's just free PR at this point. All the downsides have been established three years ago and after they almost erupted another farmer protest they're in dire need of some simple good news.
>>533670443>novgorod?Wrong novgorod.
>>533670513>competent superpowerOh you
>>533670513>a competent superpower
>>533670513>competentDid they just thaw you off?
>>533670441No, she ran into a trench and the drop drone zoomed on to her face. You can see her longish hair. She looks up at the camera and realized she was fucked right as the grenade fell on her. I think it tore up her leg and she died from the next drop before bleeding out. She had red tape on her. This was when the ziggers shills were spamming the thread with antiUA propaganda that they were training women to be drone operators and then that video surfaced lol
>>533670673>>533670709>>533670738im referring to a hypothetical superpower you 2 iq european retardsI simply dont buy that drones are a wonder weapon that could stop a competent country from advancing
>>533670513in russia the highest positions arent given for merit been this way since the mongols with short break caused by peter the greathttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mestnichestvo
Do you guys realise that Jews have multiple redundant systems to ensure they can control the exact outcome of this war. To exactly what Jews want.
>>533670849New weapon or new tactic can absolutely stop "a hypothetical superpower".It's like refusing to believe that gunpowder and walls stopped mongols.It happened before, it will happen again the future.
>>533670849Man, i almost feared you're referring to the united states.Jokes aside, currently the solution to drones is just simply more drones. AA munition works better on the surface, but it's not economical.
>>533670849They don't. What stops the advances is the transparency of the battlefield (drone surveillance) and modern artillery.It's the combination of these two that forces the current situation into being.On a modern battlefield you need to go either extremely dispersed and light (Ukraine) or extremely concentrated and heavy (e.g. Waypoint 2028 in the US)Because neither Ukraine or Russia has the ability to concentrate enough force to effectively suppress the enemy fires; artillery and drones, they can't advance properly and are stuck just trying to keep themselves in the war.
>>533670970lets say the united states was attached to ukraine and invaded do you think your country could have stopped us?
>>533670668well thats too bad.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaroslavl_refinery would also be a nice target.
>>533671130>do you think your country could have stopped us?With a substantial help from EU or China? Absolutely.
>>533670849>drones are a wonder weaponthey're not, a modern army would never be in the range of a drone, and if they were, EW systems would take care of them, russia has neither
>>533668832it's certainly not actual russians
>>533671093kinda funny considering eastern european warfare was typically mobile, whereas western warfare was more static, until recently
>>533671182The US army in the Middle East has recently found itself in the range of drones.
>>533668383It's impressive how aggressively wrong some people can be.
>>533670072daily mass russia bombing is BORING NOTHING EVER HAPPENSwe've reached that point
>>533671264not really, the bases were abandoned, there aren't any videos of us soldiers being hit, now let's not derail the thread with iran
>The price of Russian gas for China is set to average $258.80 per 1,000 cubic meters this year, more than 38% lower than the average price offered to the few remaining buyers in EuropeI expect China to be able to drive this down further. Russia has no option but to sell to them. This yuge discount is before the 20th sanctions package is even implemented which will further cut off European buyers. The 20th sanctions package I believe cuts off European buyers of rusnigger gas* from 2027.* just LNG but that's most of it, pipeline deliveries via Turkstream are smallRussia is also never going to build the giga gas pipeline of Power of Siberia II to China. Russia likely doesn't have the wherewithal to do things like that anymore and China certianly won't foot the bill.
>>533670513My guess is air superiority bombing the drone operators nests to thin the swarms, fast infantry vehicles armed with antidrone shotguns/net launchers and covered by light AA flak guns.They would still cause a lot of trouble but not to the degree Ukraine is inflicting upon pidores.
>>533671130are we talking pre-trump USA or post-trump
>>533671264And the strait is still closed. In spite of a ridiculously overwhelming advantage for the US-Israel coalition against an enemy already conventionally defeated.
>do you think your country could have stopped us?Holy fuck, I hope this nigger gets thrown out a window.
>>533670462Yeah it's terrific news but I'd be lying if I said I didn't wish it happened sooner>>533670646I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. The EU is on the right track now.
>>533669964I onow it's not the refence you used for this one, but it also fits well.
>>533671130Yes. 100%America would not have lasted as long as Russia has.
>>533671785No, no, it was specifically this one
>>533671388Much lower if they're willing to shoot themselves in the foot even further.>>533671729Might just be my cynicism. I'm critical of everything after even our "right wing" started openly sucking jew dick.
>>533670513solution is one thing, money to implement it is another
Ouch lmao
>>533670513>a competent superpowerPicrel shows things from the best years of this so-called "superpower". Then came the 1990s with Soviet collapse and complete degradation through drugs and alcohol. What we have now is a type of fairly developed African republic with nuclear weapons.
>>533670443290k bbld (barels per day), thats on the big end of the spectrum for refineries, for example largest oil refinery in Europe is Rotterdam with a production of 400k bbld, largest oil refinery in Germany is MiRO 300k bbld, Spain is Bilbao 240 bbld, France Normandy 360 bbld so you get an idea of how big the ball of fire can be if they hit something important and how much revenue can lose if Ukraine manages to halt its production.
>>533672202What do you mean by weak steel demand in russia
None of you will ever be(come) European.
>>533671904Oh, I assumed you were referencing this one.
>>533672520It is excellent but it doesn't have the cherry-on-top anime blood geyser
>>533672411In all fairness, one should mention the massive brain drain. There's a lot of smart, chill russians.. just not in russia.
And the krautpidors should know that with SAFE they have stolen their last money.
>>533672520DIRECT HIT. Damn son.
>>533672644Dont you have pennies to be begging for?
>>533669590I love it
Still not enough
>>533672502(you) will never be white, memeflag nigger.
>>533671897america would have had air superiority in the first 24 hours. that changes everything because it is actually combined arms warfare, not whatever retarded shit russia did.
>Ukrainian military officials arrived at the base in recent weeks to train U.S. warfighters with Sky Map, which is used widely by the Ukrainian military to detect incoming drone threats – including Iranian-developed Shahed drones – and launch counter-attacks with interceptor drones.This confirms that there are still sensible people in the Pentagon and they haven't all been replaced with migger yesmen. Remember that Trump had a big cry about never wanting to buy Ukrainian drone tech last month.https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-turns-ukrainian-counter-drone-tech-after-iran-attacks-sources-say-2026-04-22/
>>533672202They can't go out of business as zinc coffin manufacturers have to source their sheet metal from somewhere.
>>533670027>If there is a paradise on earth, it's the Krasnodar territory
>>533673085>america would have had air superiority in the first 24 hours.You don't even have air superiority over Iran.
>>533673091Secretary of the navy just left immediately.Trump wants to do something none of his betters like.
>>533673091Well if there's something positive about that whole debacle, it's that the US military is being forced to actually modernize itself before it gets stuck in a near-peer or peer war.
>>533673399>before it gets stuckAnon I....
>>533673520Iran isn't a near-peer, and arguably the US isn't really stuck there.
foreigners don't even understand the ПУКHУM-PУХHУM cycle
>>533671130Yeah, most likely even easier than they stopped Russia.Mostly because we rely on air superiority, which can be denied easily as seen in Iran. Any ground invasion would have resulted in meatgrinders like we see now, but unlike Russians we do consider ourselves worthy of life and would not be okay having hundreds of Americans killed for some medieval historical revisionism. We would have ended up in an uprising / civil war roughly 1 year into this shit.Assuming no nukes of course. You can't just "bomb" another country into submission, you actually have to go in there with meat and metal.Russia has absolutely no hope of ever winning this war.
>>533673707>mixing latin and cyrillic letters to trip the auto translatorsDeviousPlease enlighten us westerners please
>>533672411>What we have now is a type of fairly developed African republic with nuclear weapons.Google "Upper Volta with rockets"
>>533668072I don't like warz
>>533670513This is too deep of a question for 4chang
>>533673612Unless they are willing to admit defeat. America cannot win this. They are very much stuck.
>>533668898My father-in-law (Greek) is a rampant zigger on the simple grounds that he hates USA. When I was visiting them last year with my wife (we were in Athens to file rest of the paperwork to get married) he was watching some zigger youtube show with Ritter speaking on it how good Russia is doing, when I later told my wife that guy was caught trying to diddle kids TWICE she just laughed. Really, Giannis isn't a bad guy, he just really hates US. That he would take anything else, including ruskij mir, over Pax Americana is just fucking stupid, though. We avoid talking about politics.My own dad, on the other side, is a fellow TZD enjoyer. I think he saw more dronings than I did.
>>533668832Putin isn't even responsible for this warStalin is responsible for this war for not killing more Ukrainians like he should have.
>endless meatwave spam to advance+>threaten to samson option if you ever lose+>demographic replacement of locals in conquered areas with settlers, so later everyone will agree that "everyone living there wants to be a part of your country"=The unbeatable recipe for gradual continuous expansion of territory
>>5336738774chang does that automatically as a way to shield clueless faggots from potential phishing attacks where a link would have cyrillic letters that look like regular ones.
>>533673277yeah we do. we can bomb what we want when we want.do you not understand what "air superiority" means, nigel? are you perhaps brown and attempting to talk about white people things?>>533673833>we rely on air superiority, which can be denied easily as seen in Iran.the fuck is with people not understanding what "air superiority" means? we have it over iran, you complete retards.>>533673612we don't want to get involved in a ground campaign, not because we would lose conventionally (we wouldn't), but because that would mean yet another unconventional insurgent sandwar which are drawn out and expensive. those we can lose.
>>533674161>yeah we do. we can bomb what we want when we want.Why didn't you win yet then?
>>533674030When has America ever admitted defeat for a lost war though?
>>533674161>yeah we do. we can bomb what we want when we want.>do you not understand what "air superiority" means, nigel? are you perhaps brown and attempting to talk about white people things?Bore off you boring fucking bore.
>>533674030Trump is stuck. Not the US.Nothing that happens in Hormuz is of any consequence to America as we don't rely on that strait. We could literally just shrug our shoulders, going "oh well, nevermind" and sail home with no material or economical damage no matter what Iran does in the aftermath.But Trump would be politically dead, and not long after physically too as Vance presses the pillow on his face.
>>533674250Exactly and zero chance the orange skitter will.America is about to do what Russia just tried, with a similar outcome.
>>533670027how much of exposure to toxic burning oil fumes you need to be until you get cancer? asking for the 60k tuapse inhabitants.
I'll just be honest as a fellow white person fellow Ukrainian, I think it's be better if Ukraine didn't turn into a multicultural gay shithole like the UK or France or Germany. I prefer the Russians to win.I want my pound of flesh. Or we will act.We are no longer enslaved to homos and we can do whatever we want.
>>533674207Russia is emigrating Ukrainians to Poland and immigrating Russians to Crimea and Donbas.Looks like a win to me.
>>533674318Until America deals with the clown, then the clown is America. There's no separation here.
>>533674250Actually Trump recently admitted the US lost in Vietnam, when he said "he would have won it".Not that that registered with any of his migger zombies, mind.
>>533674207because it's just a bombing campaign. those by themselves don't win a war. they need a ground component which we don't want to do in iran for reasons i've already mentioned.>>533674264it's not my fault you are using words you don't understand in an attempt to look smart on the internet.
>>533674318>Nothing that happens in Hormuz is of any consequence to America as we don't rely on that strait. We could literally just shrug our shoulders, going "oh well, nevermind" and sail home with no material or economical damage no matter what Iran does in the aftermath.Naive
>>533673612>and arguably the US isn't really stuck there.They really arent. The longer they are there, the worse for china as they get 80% of their oil from iran. USA has no rush to get this over soon, they gonna deprive china from Oil access as much as they can.
>>533674378Saying the US lost the Vietnam War is a midwit take when it was largely successful in the U.S strategy to prevent the spread of communism to Thailand, Malaysia, and India where communist insurgencies failed
>>533674370For you perhaps, but not for reality.We can (and I believe eventually will) wash our hands off of everything Trump ever did as soon as he dies.People have done far more difficult mental gymnastics for less.Iran could make fun of us all they wanted, in the end people here would just say "yeah well that was that retard Trump, we are still USA#1 bro".And of course our military assets don't vanish just because Trump did. Minus all the missiles we wasted of course.Trump is stuck in Iran. Not the US.
>>533674030You underestimate Trump's hold on his base. He can sail away and say he won big, and that's the end of it.
>>533674557Chinese ships are going through the US blockade if it means anything
>>533674581Tell that to Trump.
>>533674035Honestly we should just shell for pro Europe shills to get all the retarded boomers on board. Frankly i don't get it, but somehow influencers are working after all.
>>533674665Yes, anyone can cross it, as long as they are not stopping in Iran to load oil.
>>533674343only Ukrainian lives are being improved in the process, so it sounds like their win
Tuapse bros.....it's over
>>533674318>Nothing that happens in Hormuz is of any consequence to America as we don't rely on that strait. We could literally just shrug our shoulders, going "oh well, nevermind" and sail home with no material or economical damage no matter what Iran does in the aftermath.Fucking up in Iran, assume nothing will go wrong at home, because hahahaha, we also produce fuel.But imagine what if Europe and Asia are starting to storm the US Market for fuel.Of course you will think that more money will come into the USA. but also don't forget the fuel prices will also get more expensive due to high foreign demands.And you know what will happen if energy prices goes up? everything will goes up. because everything is depended on fuel.
>>533674752Even if they are, doesn't matter, US is not stopping them
>>533674338There are no exposure safe levels for some of the stuff coming out of there like benzenes and PAHs
>>533674340being realistic both russia and ukraine will collapse after the war is over In russia putin will die or be killed by pissed off oligarchs, there will be a 90s tier collapse in society, they will flood it with indians and blacks to prop up the economy In ukraine they will get flooded by muslims from europe, followed by indians, if turkey is allowed to help reconstruct the country muslims will flood in from turkey as well, despite ukraine ceasing to be ''ukrainian'' it will likely be better than what will happen acros the border in russia
>TuapseIt's like Bhopal all over again...
>>533674870it does matter.that's literally what the blockade is about, stopping iran's oil exports. if the chinks want to go in there to load gulf state oil, it's allowed.
>>533674161>yeah we do. we can bomb what we want when we want.
>>533675027I'm sure every single chink vessel is fucking the US blockade under a different exception every timeIn the world of reality, US cannot effectively defeat Iran and its navy is ran by people who have the mental age to understand what would be the international consequences of boarding a chinese vessel all the while losing a 2 on 1 war against a third world country
>>533674844Pretty sure Iran will immediately reopen the strait as soon as we leave.After charging the jizya of course, but that only makes Arab oil less attractive on the world market and is in the end not our problem.As for prices going up, that's normal at this point. Prices will NEVER come down ever again, regardless. Not for the US at least. Because our economy is based on data centers that do nothing and NFTs.We've reached the highest and purest form of capitalism, the "made-up" economy.It goes Agrarian -> Manufacturing/Industrial - > Service Insudtry -> Everything is made up and based on dreams economy.
>>533674950Picrel.
>>533675297*Inb4 this is not fun or joke
>>533675297SNIIIFFFFF
>>533668072Chip was better
>>533675263that's a whole lot of words that aren't backing up your claims.look here, drawfrog. the US declared a blockade on iranian oil because we are in a state of war with them. if the chinks want to try to run it then they are going to get their boats seized. enforcing shit like this is what navies exist to do and no admiral in the pentagon is going to unilaterally decide to not follow an order from the whitehouse on this.if the chinks want to send in their bullshit navy to try to escalate it they are welcome to try but so far they haven't shown any willingness at all to get involved in this mess.
>>533668415I like when you drop any pretense you are anything but nihilists who want to see Russia expands so more of this world suffers and become ruined, damn shame you are too much of a little shit to end like OP.
>>533675276>Pretty sure Iran will immediately reopen the strait as soon as we leave.Just like that? The US Bombed and kill 150 schoolgirl all because of afraid of Iran going Nuclear.You just come and goes like when ever you like?And now we have Israel trying to steal land from Lebanon again, all because of the distraction that Trump has created>LeaveYou think Bibi will let you leave?>Prices will NEVER come down ever again.agree.>We've reached the highest and purest form of capitalism, the "made-up" economy.And it makes everything into shit, I can't even look at the NBA anymore due to betting, game fixing and everything is HIGHLIGHT now.
>>533675297>>533675397TOTAL ZIGGER SUFFOCATION
>>533675878Blockading China from its oil is highly similar to the embargoes that drove Japan into joining WW2.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Southeast_Asia
>>533675878All I'm saying is I hear chinese politicians saying "US would be well inspired not to stop our ships" and chinese ships passing through the US blockade. Whatever Orange man says I really don't care at all, and at this point I do not believe US has any strategy at all. You're just playing in the water for a domestic audience.
>>533674950>>533675297>>533675397Welp, i guess it's game over for tuapse inhabitants. Monke sentenced them to a slow death.>Air cancer>Acid rain>Poisoned water>Wild life and game also contaminated>Monke ordered to NOT to leave their homes
>>533675297one might suspect this means oil fire fumes bador that they had stashed/produced nerve agents at the oil refinery. one or the other.
>>533674702I don't think it will work well with Greeks, they hate Germany and EU for handling crisis in 2008 and letting Greece go under while bailing out banks. On the other side, maybe he could be swayed, my wife is extremely pro-EU because thanks to EU programs she met me and she's the only child.
>>533675276After all the loss of trust and even attacking the petro dollar yourself without any consequences, you might even get away with it. I still hope we manage to drive out the jewish corruption one day, together.
>>533675964what is iran gonna do? invade the US?
>>533676086This isn't exclusive to Tuapse, right?Previous refineries have burned as much as this one.Or is this particular refinery special?
so when trump gonna cut the deal with putin?i got money to make
>>533676447what deal?
>>533668832You must understand, a lot of people posting here are outright nihilists, they know what's going on, they can see see the fallacy of all the arguments Moscow has used, even the jew argument doesn't hold as Putin's regime has their share of rich jews and diversity of the tankie order, instead they see Russia as the way to avenge themselves from fate giving them depraved and petty souls, browns embittered of their biological and historical shortcomings, empoverished whites who think they are owed something by the system, religious nuts who think Russia is an instrument of divine retribution.This is compounded by the naive, who think you can be fair to Russia, stupid enough to believe Russia can be a counterbalance to western powers, and the greedy who think they can make easy money be it small jeet or big casino businessman.And then the truly depraved, "men" who enjoy russian brutality and cruelty, the fact they can torture the weak and innocent with impunity.Did I miss someone?
>>533676447Two more weeks and Putin reaches Kyiv.
>>533676324Charge a toll at the strait. Their position has been obvious from the very beggining. US have been wargaming that scenario for 40 years. The problem is not even the navy, the problem is there is no goal beside being a dog and pony show to save the rating of aging politicians, as opposed to any realistic military goal it is meant to achieve.US can't demine under the threat of drones, US can't dedrone without a land invasion, US can't invade without more casualties than it can domestically support. It would be a useless forever staring contest if not for the chinese banging at the bathroom door, and unlike Iran they can use actual leverage to get them out.
>>533676520eastern part of ukraine for whatever trump comes up with
>>533670027>Wanted more of the Black Sea? Got their Sea Blacked instead
>>533676863>Got their Sea Blacked insteadDisaster zone
>>533676771trump has no cards to force ukraine to do shit.
Total Anal Tuapse.
>>533676086Thank heaven that no humans are in any danger.
>>533676098but we aren't blockading or embargoing china. if the chinks want to haul gulf state oil out of there we won't stop them. the blockade is on IRAN.>>533676113>chinese ships passing through the US blockadeas the other anon said, those ships weren't hauling iranian oil. but for some fucking retarded reason you keep acting like they were. did the zigger way of debating on the internet rub off on you or something?>I do not believe US has any strategy at all.okay then, since you seem to have smugly figured it all out. how do you convince the IRGC to open the straits again? ask nicely? bring them flowers? give them footrubs?or perhaps, i dunno, place a blockade on their exports that puts their economy on the clock so they need to resolve this as badly as everyone else does.
>>533676324Iran has made its peace terms very clear.
>>533676086>no humans harmed in the droning of this oil refinery.based, shame the local ecosystem is forever fucked but the indomitable rvssian sovl will endure to suck cocks in a trad and christian way another day.
>>533677306And what is the US gonna do if Chinese ships do pick up Iranian oil?
>>533668072>Tuapse Refinery This seems like it's going to be an epic turn of events. Picrel.>>533676390Yeah, good questions. Picrel.
>>533677306>okay then, since you seem to have smugly figured it all out. how do you convince the IRGC to open the straits again? Personally? Kick out the US and Israeli ambassador out of France and pay the toll. It's less dramatic than it sounds, Kushner father, that the US has the galls to have named to that position, has already been striped out of his access to the government.That is the condition that the revolutionary guard has fixed to anyone who wants to commerce with them and I find those conditions to be acceptable until the situation calms down
>>533677443It is a terrible shame. I feel sorry for the animals and the plants and the bugs.
>>533677473seize them and send them to oman like we have been doing with the iranian shipping. it's a blockade. the rules for them are pretty clear.>>533677477so allow the IRGC to keep a knife on the jugular of global energy and paying them for the privilege of shipping through omani waters. cool beans. that won't totally blow up in your face later.
>>533676098that'd be the case if it were a total blockade, ie: no supplier. USA is just preventing from the main one where China got the cheapest oil in change for tech and sanctions bypass, just like how they did with us. They gave repression toys to chavez and maduro and in return they were given basically free oil and convenient contracts.>>533676113Frogfren, i understand having suspicion and taking anything USA says with a grain of salt, but do not forget China isnt reliable or trustful neither specially when it's geopolitics matter. One, they are commies, they all lie. Two, it's in their interest to position themselves as neutroooler and paint USA in a worse image than it actually is.
>>533670513>Competent superpowerSee there's the thing. Pyccia is neither of those.
>>533677969Nothing ever blew until US decided to put its nose where it doesn't belong. Aside Israel, that I am fine with also kicking out of France, nobody asked you anything. US degraded the situation enough, and it is better to stick with a degraded situation today then to cause more damage and deal with a situation degraded further.You will not improve your situation in the strait because you have no path to victory. Take your L and go home.Also Kushner needs to go. Seriously. He serves no function and is draining your budget. Take him back. Please>>533678018Fuck China d e s u. EVROPA forever.
>>533676280With all due respect. I've witnessed polish and greek boomers(coincidentally enough i could only further add french to the list) and they have just the same narcistic tendencies as german boomers. Given the state of the world, you wouldn't even have to go full Alex Jones >Tiktok/China wants to make you dumb>Triads/China wants to hook us all on drugs>Any CIA story>USA wants us to buy their oil>USA wants to steal all our data>Russia is spamming all our social media>Russia is cyberhacking our companiesFuck me, maybe i should just give myself an AI boomer appearance and just become a influenced myself. Ah, yes>Nothing is real. Everything is AI. Except me of course.
>>533677969>seize them and send them to omanLol okay. Try it and let me know how it works out for ya.
>>533677969>seize themNo balls>so allow the IRGCYes, it's bad, and I'd personally like to see Iran glassed instead, but:a) you've retards opened that pandora's box for no reason without any planning on "what's next".b) read the point about seizing ships above;
>>533677969>seize them and send them to omanYou will do shit and you know it. Even if some captain grows some unplanned balls, Xi will just call big orange and big orange will taco immediately.
>>533676154>>533676257>>533677218>>533677443See details >>533677476
Trump is bombing Iran again. During a ceasefire. Bigly too.
>>533678465>coincidentally enough i could only further add french to the listCan confirm unfortunately. People can live in literally fucking paradise and they'll still get mad on command
>>533679081speedily debooooonked, as well
