Good people being armed is never a bad thing.Bad people can always acquire/make weapons.Women who defend themselves using guns are raped less than 1% of the time. Literally an >99% success rate. The argument against civilian firearm ownership simply doesn't exist.
>>533684003"The essence of liberalism is negotiation, a cautious half measure, in the hope that the definitive dispute, the decisive bloody battle, can be transformed into a parliamentary debate and permit the decision to be suspended forever in an everlasting discussion."
>>533684003women often say they got raped when they simply regret having sex with a guy they ended up not liking.imagine the amount of murder that would happen if these women shot their "rapists"
>>533684003>Bad people can always acquire/make weapons.Very few politicians would agree with this statement.
>>533684283People in PRISON have acquired/built guns and all sorts of other weapons.If you can't prevent people in PRISON from being armed, what are the odds of preventing them when they are living in broader society with access to everything and everyone else?>>533684240You can't defend yourself from an attack that occurred in the past, let alone an attack that didn't happen. This is such a weak argument that I'm amazed you're trying to make it.
>>533684003Guns were cool when you could get them from chill people in the sporting goods section on Craigslist now it's all pozzed and gay definitely not what our founding fathers envisioned is buying a gun now
>>533684351IDK but to a politician law enforcement is effective enough that the possibility to denying weapons to bad people is worth the cost of denying weapons to good people.
>>533684003People aren't inherently good or bad. Are you a toddler?
>>533684445If they would deny defense to everyone else to attempt to secure their own security, which only truly becomes necessary when working against the needs and desires of their constituents, then they ARE bad people.
>>533684530Most politicians would say that weapons bans make not just themselves but everyone safer in general.
>>533684712In the US, defensive firearm uses far outnumber the criminal uses of firearms by no small margin. In most cases, they end with ZERO shots fired because just the presence of armed resistance is enough to make them disengage. In cases where shots are fired, the average is THREE shots with a much higher accuracy/lower collateral damage rate than when law enforcement use firearms.Texas had a mass shooting in a church that caused 27 deaths and another 22 injured. Following this, they allowed people in churches to carry guns for defense.The next time a mass shooting was attempting in a Texas church, a guy dropped the shooter with a single shot to the head within TEN seconds of the incident.Even in an affluent area that invests heavily in policing, police response times are >5 minutes. In some places, you're lucky if the cops show up AT ALL.
>>533684867was attempted*
>>533684867The point about law enforcement isn't just about police response times. Politicians believe that that the enforcement of weapons bans are effective enough, like forcibly closing an unapproved gun shop.
>>533685006Then explain why Shinzo Abe was killed with an improvised firearm. Japan has some of the strictest gun laws on the planet.
>>533684003What are you talking about we can let bigots run around with weapons of war. People should rely on the police I mean the fascist pigs to prote- oh wait a minute that doesn't make sense at all what was I saying again?
>>533684240Niggers that fornicate with mentally ill whores are bad people, and I do not believe they don't deserve to be shot.
If a criminal chooses to attack someone in the Walmart parking lot or something and someone is to die, I would always prefer it be the criminal and not the person just peacefully going about their day. 100% of the time.Dead criminals cannot reoffend.
>>533685041>safer IN GENERAL.A person being attacked is obviously not safer for not having a weapon to defend himself with which is why this doesn't apply to individual cases.
>>533685236We are all individuals.
>>533685256But a law can't effectively single out individuals.
>>533685314If a law purported to protect you cannot protect you, what good is it?The purpose of a system is what it does. Gun control only serves to concentrate the ability to do harm among those who would use it irresponsibly.
>>533684003
>>533684003What if the government wants to gulag you? Surely it would be better if you didn't make a scene by causing a shootout?
>>533684468Jews are inherently bad. Literally every kike is a walking cartoon caricature of an evil villain that kicks puppies and hates everything good.
>>533684003How would you know leaf?
>>533684351Women routinely accuse men of DV and sexual assault for completely frivolous reasons, often in an attempt to exert control over them in some way (revenge, blackmail, etc)
>>533685376Most politicians would say that a weapons ban protects you by making it less likely that you'll be attacked with a weapon, even though it doesn't help the victims in that supposedly unlikely circumstance.
>>533685148Women have the highest rate of psychiatric drug use. They also struggle to control their emotions.>NiggersWomen are the niggers of gender.
>>533685602Except it doesn't.Brazil is one of the most violent places on Earth despite having very strict gun control.Meanwhile, Switzerland, one of the most heavily armed countries on Earth is far safer than average.
>>533685653That's a tricky one but I think most politicians would say that law enforcement is better in their country than in Brazil, and even if not then weapons bans still make being attacked with a weapon less likely than if such bans didn't exist. In other words Brazilians would be even worse off without strict gun control.
>>533685858And then I just point back to Japan, with a near total ban on firearms ownership, who just recently had the highest politician in the land killed with a homebuilt firearm.
>>533684003So you are arguing for less rape.That is disappointing.
>>533686040I'm sure that Japanese politicians would say that more Japanese politicians and civilians would be murdered if gun ownership were more common in Japan.
>>533684003If you need a gun to be safe, your community has failed. Women should be able to go for a walk in the middle of the night without facing any threats or having to carry a gun
>>533684003No chud, we live in a safe society where you can trust people and don't need guns. That's why people can't be trusted with guns, because they're trustworthy.
>>533685858>Brazilians would be even worse off without strict gun control.Is that like how all school shootings happened before the gun free zone act for schools and no shootings, such as Columbine and the flood of school shootings that followed, ever happened? Everyone lived happily after, the end?
>>533686175Truly safe society is built on order, not trust
>>533686303Don't forget the beltway sniper who used a banned gun to kill people in DC.
>>533686303Presumably most politicians would say that without that law then more school shootings would happen.
>>533686481>used a banned gunThank G-d he didn't cross state lines.
>>533684407All I've ever know about gun "culture" has been run down pawn shops, sporting good stores, and the sad boomer reunion aka gun shows. What were the before times like?
>>533684712Provably false.
>>533686585>Presumably most politicians would say that without that law then more school shootings would happen.That would presume they are idiots. While not arguing for the intelligence of your imaginary "most politicians", rational people are free to notice that mass shooters gravitate to areas where firearms are generally prohibited. And the same people are free to notice the upswing in school shootings once guns were banned.
>>533686772Gun control is one of those policies where, every time it fails, they just say there "wasn't enough" of the policy that failed.
>>533684003dru dat
>>533686772Correlation doesn't imply causation.
>>533684003Are you implying the government wants the improve society and the lives of the citizen?
>>533685459Are they bad because they're jews? Or are they jews because they're bad?
>>533684003Cool Tokarev. I don't think there's a lot of people using them for defense.
>>533686906>Correlation doesn't imply causation.And an object at rest cannot be stopped.Was there a point you forgot to make while quoting someone else?
>>533685491can't really tell if that picture is supposed to be a meme or a motivational poster
>>533686475You can have as much "order" as you like, but if your population are subhumans, it will still be less safe than a white country with a less oppressive government.If your society has high quality people, then why do you need to ruin their lives by banning everything in the name of "safety"?If your society has low quality people, then why wouldn't I need a weapon to protect myself from such subhumans?
>>533687067The point is that the passage of a law banning guns from schools correlating with more occurrences of school shootings doesn't imply that the former caused the latte.
>>533687147If you don't even have correlation, you have literally no proof that gun bans work.
>>533687147>The point is that the passage of a law banning guns from schools correlating with more occurrences of school shootings doesn't imply that the former caused the latte.>doesn't imply that the former caused the latte.Nor does it imply that it doesn't.Do obvious patterns always surprise you?
>>533686671First gun I ever bought was a .38 Rossi on Craigslist at 17 then all I ever did was buy and sell on there untill feds lurked there full time and made everything pozzed, but it was glorious just meeting fellow ancaps in Walmart parking lots and buying and trading straw purchases
>>533687318Very true but one could come up with alternative explanations for the perceived increase in the number of school shootings. A lot of people blame general Internet culture, for example.
>>533687439>A lot of people blame general Internet culture, for example.Shooting ranges have the same Internet access and way more guns. Weird, right?
America is the most armed nation in the world with more guns in ownership than the entire population. It also has the most school/mass shootings in the world. In fact it has more school and mass shooting incidents than the rest of the world combined. Surely that's just a coincidence.
>>533687795The vast majority of things recorded as "school shootings" are gangbangers killing each other on school property.The presence of gangbangers killing people is not an argument against gun control, as it clearly already failed the moment they acquired guns. Felons are barred from firearm ownership in the US.
>>533687790Well guns were never very prevalent in schools even without a law banning them. Guns must necessarily be prevalent at a shooting range.
>>533684003No.
>>533684240I’m praying that your next victim is strapped
>>533684003Being able to ensure your personal security with lethal force is great
>>533688022No what?
>>533687795>In fact it has more school and mass shooting incidentsAnd the areas where law abiding people are disarmed happen to be where those shootings take place. Not areas where law abiding people are expected to be armed. Places with many guns seem to have less murder despite the constant barrage of gunfire.>>533687991>Well guns were never very prevalent in schools even without a law banning them. Guns must necessarily be prevalent at a shooting range.Schools used to have school shooting teams where students shot guns on purpose. Those were real and not imaginary firearms.
>>533688203Even in schools with shooting teams it's not as though students carry them everywhere.
>>533688203You forgetting uvalde school shooting? It's in texas, arguably the most armed state in the country. Or how about 2017 las vegas shooting, one of the deadliest mass shootings in history which took place in a gun friendly state(nevada)? I could pull up way more examples
>>533687856You got a source for that chief?
>>533684867Imagine trusting police to keep you safe. Fucking pigs will fly a drone around your home for 20 minutes to see if the guy who shot you in the gut still has a gun while you're bleeding out on the ground.
>>533688101hawt
The forward u grip for accurate shooting, the back u grip for lazy hip fire. Gear driven
>>533688281>Even in schools with shooting teams it's not as though students carry them everywhere.Not sure how that changes the date range (before the gun free zone act) or the fact that they had real guns. >>533688324>uvalde school shootinggun free zone as per federal law>Or how about 2017 las vegas shootinga hotel with a no gun policy and a concert with a no guns, knives, or non transparent bag policy
>>533688485That angled handle is unergonomic as hell too. Custom molded rubber handle.
>>533684003bump
>>533684003Well i hold women in higher regard than french canadians.
>>533687991Old fag here. When I went to high school students had rifles and shotguns in their trucks in gun racks. Right there in plain sight. Some people don’t believe this but I swear to God, it’s the truth. That was the late 80’s or so.
>>533688494Just like every other developed first world country, and alarmingly, they don't have anywhere near the shooting incidents america has. At a certain point you gotta recognize the pattern. You dont hear about school shootings overwhelmingly in america for a reason
>>533684003>Women who defend themselves using guns are raped less than 1% of the time. Literally an >99% success rate.That 1% was Bill Cosby.
>>533689502You hear about*
>>533684003Being fat also prevents rape, except for indians but in those circumstances, the usage of a firearm is always recommended.
>>533684240Only give high-IQ men guns then.Problem solved.
>>533684003GUN CONTROL USA
>>533684003GUN TRAINING USA
No caliber is going to stop you from a creep.
>>533690731You can't tourniquet a taint.
>>533684240most of the guys they fuk are heartless pricks and they damn well know it. this is what they like. everything else is just decoration and her doing random retarded things.the women themselves are heartless pricks, you fools. get a grip.
>>533684003you meant to type "literally a >99% success rate"learn grammar fake canadian chinese man op
>>533684003Degenerate goyim without understanding trying to attain a false sense of security when everything around them is already destroyed. What are you holding on to? You think you can protect yourself? You are kike #1. Find Christ.
>>533692088">99%" = "over 99%"Maybe you could try being less retarded.
>>533692177>Noguns cuckOpinion discarded.
>>533689594Nice grip. 8/10 needs to be less steep and angled.
>>533684003Good people can also be stupid and an idiot with a gun is not good news.
>>533694318Aside from the concept of criminal negligence being a thing, your argument would invalidate police having guns since it is legal to discriminate against applicants when hiring police for being "too smart". A ban on civilian ownership would concentrate power in the hands of stupid people.
>>533694318Statistically more civilian guns leads to less violent crime.
>>533684712You're a retard if you listen to what politicians say.
