Adm. Samuel Paparo warned Taiwan must pass its stalled $40bln special defense budget to show commitment, stating the US "cant want Taiwans defense more than they want it itself" and "dont starve the chicken."https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2026/04/22/2003856054KMTs legislative majority (with TPP) fully stalls Lai Ching-tes $40bln defense budget. They cant push defence cooperation with the US without KMTs green light. Recent KMTs China visit shifted power balance: eroded public support for DPPs hardline, and boosted KMT ahead of 2026 locals/2028 presidential race.Meanwhile Mutts want Taiwan to turn into second Ukraine xDCNAS "Hellscape for Taiwan" report (Feb 2026) urges Taiwan to build a layered "hellscape" of large quantities of indigenous uncrewed systems (drones, USVs, UUVs) to deter invasion without relying on US forces. Recommends shifting budget from costly platforms to domestic drone production for self-sufficiency.https://www.cnas.org/publications/reports/hellscape-for-taiwanCato Institute: US industrial base is "very strained" so Taiwan must expand its own defense industry for asymmetric weapons/munitions to reduce pressure on US stockpiles. Recommends focusing sales on asymmetric items while building local capacity.https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/taiwans-urgent-need-asymmetric-defenseThis aligns with KMT concerns: America wants Taiwan as a self-reliant "hellscape" to avoid becoming the sole arsenal amid industrial limits. US still approves some big-ticket sales (HIMARS, Javelins), but doctrine favors indigenous mass over imports.KMT sees through this and blocks $40bln US arms cooperation deal based mostly on domestic drone production. Taiwan simply doesnt want to be second Ukraine wasting itself against China in drone warfare only because the US is too weak to defend it and even supply with all the weapon it needs.
Why not just sell China semiconductor tech so they leave Taiwan alone
Ukraine doesn't want to end up like Ukraine, the fact that everyone was dumb enough to let the US set their foreign policy and sell them weapons while neglecting to protect them is hilarious. These countries have the ability to negotiate their way out of these conflicts, their regional boogeyman will still be their tomorrow the US will not.
The US needs to station a few soldiers in Taiwan to make it a target, like the Gulf states. Otherwise China will never attack.
>act like a proxy battleground without US money>ehehe we're being independent :DDDJust reunify
>>533693849Taiwan is not about semiconductors or whatever jewish neoliberal money worshipping reason you can think of. Taiwan is about blood and soil for China.
>>533693788>Adm. Samuel Paparo warned Taiwan must pass its stalled $40bln special defense budget to show commitment, stating the US "cant want Taiwans defense more than they want it itself" and "dont starve the chicken.">KMTs legislative majority (with TPP) fully stalls Lai Ching-tes $40bln defense budget. They cant push defence cooperation with the US without KMTs green light. Recent KMTs China visit shifted power balance: eroded public support for DPPs hardline, and boosted KMT ahead of 2026 locals/2028 presidential race.>Meanwhile Mutts want Taiwan to turn into second Ukraine xD>CNAS "Hellscape for Taiwan" report (Feb 2026) urges Taiwan to build a layered "hellscape" of large quantities of indigenous uncrewed systems (drones, USVs, UUVs) to deter invasion without relying on US forces. Recommends shifting budget from costly platforms to domestic drone production for self-sufficiency.>Cato Institute: US industrial base is "very strained" so Taiwan must expand its own defense industry for asymmetric weapons/munitions to reduce pressure on US stockpiles. Recommends focusing sales on asymmetric items while building local capacity.>This aligns with KMT concerns: America wants Taiwan as a self-reliant "hellscape" to avoid becoming the sole arsenal amid industrial limits. US still approves some big-ticket sales (HIMARS, Javelins), but doctrine favors indigenous mass over imports.>KMT sees through this and blocks $40bln US arms cooperation deal based mostly on domestic drone production. Taiwan simply doesnt want to be second Ukraine wasting itself against China in drone warfare only because the US is too weak to defend it and even supply with all the weapon it needs.
>>533693788Ukraine didn't want to end up like Ukraine either.I don't think you want to end up like Ukraine either but you're on track at full speed.
>>533695324Exactly the same "build-your-own-drones" solution is being prepared for Bolanda also known as Poland by plenty of "independent geopolitic experts" (read: paid prostitutes of the West) presenting this desperate mutt-scheme as "Polish way to status of regional power".The most important thing all these clowns forget about is that Poland (just like Ukraine) would need to become fully dependent on China in matter of tech/components/materials/rare earth elements/electronics/magnets/etc to scale up drone production to millions units per year. The West cant supply it. They also fail to mention that drone-based warfare is fkn nasty, not only for soldiers but also for civilians, and Russia - due to its huge landmass/resources and potential strategic relations with China would always have an upper hand in spreading destruction xD
>>533695531>an upper hand
>>533695531Yeah, do not build drones, just surrender to whomever attacks you. I hope we will get attacked by Nigeria though. You are far more stupid than any pacifist in existence. At least they preach "non violence". You preach pure stupidity.
>>533698399In October 2025, China increased export limits, blocked indirect routes via Poland and Baltic states, which Ukraine used to bypass direct limits on components/materials (motors, batteries, flight controllers, magnets etc) needed for mass drone production, closing its main cheaper supply channel. Ukraine and Poland cant produce millions of units a year if China curbs its regional export rules even more. Full "China-free" drones exist only in prototypes, not at mass scale due to much higher costs and very limited Western alternatives. In 2026, this creates ongoing problems in Ukraine: supply bottlenecks, price spikes and slower scaling toward millions of units annually. Recent warnings from Ukrainian producers highlight persistent risks in lithium batteries, magnets, and fibre optics, threatening production capacity amid war demands. And these problems arouse _despite_ the fact that Chinese restrictions are softcore so far. Poland can build some drones, but rather thousands than millions a year and these toys will be integrated into some Palantir shit effectively turning Poland into an expendable and fully controlled cannon fodder of USrael.I have nothing against assembling drones but integrating them into US-American systems would be very stupid imo.
we should just lease them a sub armed with nukesif we immediately gave ukraine nukes at the first sign of russian aggression they would still have crimea, peace in europe and a lot of lives on both sides would be saved
>>533693788>like ukraine Nigga it's going to be worse than ukraine if they ever engage in a war with china. Unlike ukraine which is a poor shithole connected to europe taiwan is a high tech island trapped in sea. Chinks don't need to land they will just starve them with naval blockade.>but muh asymmetric warfare They're going get raped in it too. All the temu shit will be target at them.
>>533699320I forgot to add that China did _not_ impose any restrictions on Russia, so if Russians needed, they could easly scale up their drone production even to tens of millions a year.
>>533693788Don't worry Japan will
>>533699467LOL amerimutt is acting as if article 5 is not even a thingYOU'RE ALREADY OBLIGED TO NUKE RUSSIANS IF THEY ATTACK NATO COUNTRY YOU STUPID ASSHOLE
>>533693788If taiwan isn't commited to defense, there won't be a lot the US can do.The right of the stronger exceeds every other law as international order breaks apart.
>>533703831Actually drones coming in from NATO airspace to bomb Russia means places like Estonia lost article 5 protections.
TRY IT CHINKY GET BEAMED
>>533703888The problem is everyone in Taiwan is chinese and 40% want to join China.
>>533693849>The reason why China want to take over isn't about semiconductor
>>533703988They don't want to join china. They want the US to defend them and be the ones to die while they are comfortable in their homes.Basically the security guarantee we gave to japan. Which will never happen.
>>533704112funny thing is, at this point they dont even expect American to help them nowInstead they expected Japan to be the one who will help them
>>533703988That is a very large chunk of the population.That will be a big issue if there is a conflict.At least elon is getting involved on chips now, but it will take a decade to become competitive (at least).Europe will be fucked, I guess.
>>533703831>le article 5...is a thoughts 'n prayers article. Amergoys will shed a small but powerful tear for Europe's sacrifice.
>>533693788Why would anyone keep paying the US protection money when they can't protect their subordinates?Ukraine, the arab nations, all fucked because the US couldn't uphold their security. Taiwan will be next.
Taiwan Will peacefully reunify with China before 2030. US has proven to be unable to defend its "allies". Honestly in Japan will warm up to China in the coming years.
>>533703952ok cool you immidiately dropped pretense you care about any of your NATO allies in 2nd post good job retardas for the war in Ukraine you started it and wanted to support it the most and after trump you're just offloading responsibility on it on poor vassals that rely on your help and claiming innocencelegally and morally it means you should lose your article 5 protectionswhat a retarded piece of shit you are
>>533704192Shahed drones can fly 2500km. Taiwan is 180km away from china. I don't think japan or anyone can help them. Unless we figure out a way to stop drone swarms.
>>533694197This
>>533704210your narrative is what americans want people to thinkin reality it's the most backstabbing traitorous breach of contract that should destroy any sort of future trust in american contracts foreverit means your word is worthless from now on just like putin's red lines or china's final warningsand unlike those 2 countries america relys a lot on trust in them like for example when to comes to dollars and t-billsthat's why they want you to think there was never any contract or the article 5 is invalid beacuse of some small print
>>533704572We don't need you to trust americas. You will come crawling to us begging for oil. After we destroy all the oil refineries and trick iran into bombing all the oil drilling stations in the middle east. You will have no choiceRussia will not be eager to sell to europeans who are hostile. They can sell oil for 100+ a barrel to asia.
Atlanta faggot keeps posting his Grokslopretards keep giving him (You)'s
>>533704790Europoors can always decrease their far too high standard of life (kek) and invest in Chinese EV/solar/wind/whatever tech radically reducing demand for oil. In the meantime, they can buy oil for inflated prices, also from the US, however US export capabilities are vastly overestimated in propaganda xD
>>533704374You mean me telling the truth mean I am a Russian with a VPN?How come you cant dispute my facts?Stupid faggotIf everyone telling the truth is a Russia doesnt that make them the good guys?
>>53370419395% of Taiwan is ethnic Han Chinese.
>>533695531>Goys as you can see Russia and China is just too powerful, we should just let them kills us and make greater Israel alreadyYou people are lower than shit.
>>533705299I am struggling with daily "accusations" of being Russian since years only because i try to look realistically at developing events, i calculate potentials and try to dig deeper than MSM narrative. Even some Russian flags on /pol/ suggested that i might be Russian because i dont act like a ZOG-drone xD The truth is the only things that kind of connect me with Russia is my addiction to Russian teen porn and music like TATU. Classic of 00s pop.
>>533705299>If everyone telling the truth is a Russia doesnt that make them the good guys?How_to_expose_yourself_as_a_Russian_Glownigger_in_one_easy_step!
>>533705037We only post up-to-date memes here, sir
>>533705476>Russian teen pornlol just casually outing yourself as a subhuman cuckold
>>533705476>The truth is the only things that kind of connect me with Russia is my addiction to Russian teen porn and music like TATU. Classic of 00s pop.I liked Bulgakov and Dostoyevsky as a kid too. Poland never had such talented writers.
>>533705522Notice the nafo faggot shill have been everywhere lately since ukraine front lines have started to collapse
>>533705476So your proof is>events happened!What a sick faggot you areDenounce your jewish master Zelensky now
>>533705655CISSYTO tranny shill still shilling this turd world zogpire. Are you going to import more Jeets and create new israel yet Sasha Sirgay Asstomouth
nu/pol/ thread
>>533693849because chinese interest in taiwan is both one of strategic naval passage, as well as a retarded legal fiction
>>533693788Jaja yes money for men not for the ladies
>>53370398813%, actually. 43% want the status quo, 44% want independence.
>>533705884>13%, actuallylmao99,9999% want to join china
>>533693788>Taiwan doesnt want to end up like Ukraine.But this is literally the path to becoming a new Ukraine. Even before the war, without any Western supplies, the Ukrainian army was the third largest in Europe, behind only Russia and Poland. Big military is literally just more reasons to invade. Like, we’ve got this hostile country right on our border, and we’ve been really patient, but they’ve started building up their army, so our patience has run out.
>>533705884True. Thats the latest data. Number of Taiwanees who want to get annexed by China on Chinese rules will be always low because nobody wants to be annexed. But it is also bullshit to claim that vast majority of the Taiwan people want to be fully independent. Not even half of them wants to die for this, now
>>533706003I still believe the Chinese might achieve their goals without war. If i was Xi, i would launch robust land connections to Iran now that Amerimutts couldnt block with their Navy and start supplying Iran with _unlimited_ components needed for missile/drone production. It would effectively neutralize the US of A from Pacific game
>>533704214Why would you stop paying protection money exactly before the moment when you need protection? It just gives americunts the excuse they want to cop out of their responsibilities.
>>533706022they already are "fully independent" though. the one china thing is literally just literal cope, nothing but hollow legal fiction. "independence" is more or less just getting rid of the bold faced lie everybody knows is false. won't ever happen though.
>>533706003>lets pick hard battles instead of easy onesnah thats retardedyou're a retard
>>533693849China wants Taiwan for the exact same reason Ukraine wants Crimea and the Donbas back. It has nothing to do with semiconductors.
>>533706273What good did that do for the arab states? If anything stopping paying will make you less of a target and potentially avoid conflict altogether
>>533706511ukraine wants crimea to break american naval encirclement?
>>533706022>Thats the latest data.>THE ANSWERS FROM THE LATEST GOYIM SUGGESTION BOX SAYS THIS IT MUST BE 100% FACT
>>533695531https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/11/world/europe/ukraine-drones-china.html
Maybe China should use the current time where both the US and Europe are weakened to take Taiwan.
>>533703988The majority of people do not identify as Chinese and do not wish to join China. This is simply reality. >>533706368That is the status quo not full independence. Most people are happy with the status quo rather than full independence because it avoids stating a war and upsetting both the KMT and CCP who are against it. Full independence would mean full legal recognition as independent state. Abolition the Republic of China and the creation of the Republic of Taiwan, a seat in the UN, being able to participate in the Olympics as Taiwan rather than as a special region of China, so in and so forth.
>>533706616The CCP has claimed Taiwan since 1942.
>>533706825the scare quotes are there to indicate as such, while also devaluing the distinction. taiwan is not an independent country only as a figment of globalist bureacratic imagination.
>>533706983it also claimed mongoliaa lot changes in 80+ years
>>533706825>The majority of people do not identify as Chinese and do not wish to join China. This is simply reality.What kind of tranny faggot nonsence is this?95% of Taiwan is Han Chinese. Its not even up for debate.>you dont understand they identify as unicorns!
>>533706724This NYT article reports that by 2025, the share of Chinese parts had dropped to roughly 38% which is pretty much bullshit as long as we consider details/elements printed on Chinese 3D printers as Ukrainian domestic product xDCrucially, the article also states that Ukraine will not be mass-producing "China-free" drones anytime soon because Chinese parts are much cheaper and dominate global manufacturing. Ukrainian manufacturers also remain heavily reliant on China for lithium batteries, magnets for motors, fibre optic cables etc. Thats exactly what i expkained here:>>533699320Senior Ukrainian officials confirm that if China cut off supply, any drone production (both in Ukraine and Europe) could be halted "tomorrow". Alternatives are faaaar too expensive and unavailable at scale, so hardcore Chinese sanctions would effectively paralyze production.
>>533706825>Most people are happy with the status quo rather than full independence because it avoids stating a warlol what a way to phrase>most people hate being american dog but they're blackmailed by americans with the prospect of 2nd ukraineYep im sure they're going to answer honestly in those polls. Surely that university didnt just fake the data
>>533693788Ahh for fucks sake.I should really buy a backup computer before this clown fucks shit up again.
the third world, like a tranny wanting a woman to be elected president, think its ''THEIR TURN'' and are continually getting uppity, there is no good argument for the war in ukraine or china taking over taiwan other than ''lol america is le bad mufuggin bix nood gibs me dat''
>>533707262>>533707243This has been polled extensively. Most Taiwanese identify as Taiwanese not as Chinese. This is just a simple fact, not an opinion.
>>533707501it only matters if it translates to willingness to fight for such identity
>>533707180>it also claimed mongoliaYes I believe the CCP did claim it but they officially acknowledged Outer Mongolian independence in 1946.>a lot changes in 80+ yearsLittle has changed in regards to the CCP claim over Taiwan since 1943.
>>533693788Imagine how badly a chink amphibious invasion would fail if Taiwan adopts drone swarms.
