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I went from the least racist man alive to feeling pure anger whenever I encounter an Indian. I can't imagine what the more conservative people are like right now
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What changed your position?
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>>533702516
If anything, I am much the same. I guess that being like this gave a degree of mental preparation. Welcome aboard all the same.
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>>533702516
Race realism is an objectively scientific worldview.

It drives me crazy that leftists claim to be so enamored with science and then completely ignore it whenever it concludes anything inconvenient to their principles.
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>>533702802
>Race realism is an objectively scientific worldview.
Not really. Most of the genetic variation within our species happens within regional groups rather than between them. To put it in another way, the genetic distance between two members of the same race is more likely to be greater than the distance between two people of different races. Every human alive is so close as to be indistinguishable when compared against our closest nonhuman relative.

You are right about one thing: it's "objectively scientific." You just missed the more important part... which is that it's objectively, scientifically WRONG lmao
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>>533702516
you just jealous because indian men steal all the white women
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>>533702516
I feel much the same way.
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>>533702516
I’m still a leftist but I fucking hate Indians and immigrants. They’re destroying nature.
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>>533702926
SAAR THE FLAG SAAR
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>>533702516
Cuck
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>>533702516
You can be racist and still be leftist tho. I despise Indians too but I'm pro labor and workers.
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>>533702884
Actually the genetic distance between certain human races are larger than many separate species of animals. There is for example less shared DNA between sub-saharan Africans and Eurasians than there is between Lions and Tigers.
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>>533702516
You used a capital letter when referring to the enemy (indian) so therefore I find you to still be an enemy agent intent on doing some form of damage here.
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>>533702516
I'm relying on jeets to make my apartment building Fibre to the premises, after that they can go back to playing trains
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>>533702884
Representative Sample Reviews: Systematic reviews that prioritize representative sampling and adjust for educational and health factors suggest higher averages, typically clustering between 80 and 82. For instance, Wicherts, Dolan, and van der Maas argued for a mean of approximately 80, while other analyses centering on rigorous methodologies place the range near 80–82.

African Americans is estimated to range between 82 and 91, depending on the study and year.

400 Years and interbreeding with Whites has not even moved the African IQ a standard deveation. In most cases a virtually immeasurably small amount.

>>533702918
Indians are sub human and have some of the smallest penises in the World. It is not even worth the effort to illustrate the IQ gap between Indians and European Indians. God willing you will all be reunited in your homelands soon and you can injest cow dung and urine to your hearts content.
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>>533702516
Right winger here. I'm going to continue supporting sending Indians to your country until you're MORE racist than me.
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>>533703144
>Actually the genetic distance between certain human races are larger than many separate species of animals
This is 100% false, for the record:
>Notwithstanding the genetic differences between individuals, all humans have a great deal of their genetic information in common. These similarities help define us as a species. Furthermore, genetic variation around the world is distributed in a rather continuous manner; there are no sharp, discontinuous boundaries between human population groups. In fact, research results consistently demonstrate that about 85 percent of all human genetic variation exists within human populations, whereas about only 15 percent of variation exists between populations.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK20363/
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>>533702604
All of the lefties are losing their cozy fake jobs to indian nepotism. It will only get worse, people still don't realize the type of nepotism they practice is absolute and they breed like flies. The American dream solely belongs to jeets now and both parties are the heralds.
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>>533703241
Which genes, exactly, are responsible for this difference?
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>>533703241
without indian your country would already collapsed but you aint white anyway you CHING CHONG CHING CHONG parasite
also im white not indian
but i respect indian people
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>>533702516
Reflect on how much of a faggot you’ve been up to now.
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>>533702516
indians really are among the most repulsive "people".
they look like shit, they smell like shit, they have disgusting accents and they're scammers and nepotists.
the thought of indian migrants is truly the stuff of nightmares.
>>533702884
confidently wrong. did you just arrive from reddit?
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>>533703319
You didn't address what I said at all there.
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>>533703319
You didn’t disprove him.
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>>533703430
That's not fully known yet.
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>>533703432
Mental gymnastics
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>>533702516
What changed your mind? Is it only Indians or all non-euros?
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>>533703528
You're overstating your position. It's not known at all... largely because it's an attempt to quantify an intangible. If we agree that intelligence is knowing words and figuring out patterns in matrices (obviously there are significant problems with this) then yes, we can see that even if we can't figure out whether or not the deficit in these tests is attributable to genetics, environment, either, both, or unknown unknown additional variables, that this deficit in this specific test exists.

That is called data. And the data are rigorous.

The problem is that without a conclusive link, you haven't proven anything scientifically. Until you can take a genetic sample from random person and accurately predict REPEATABLY what their score on this test will be, you aren't just "not there yet" but nowhere in the fuckin ballpark.

You can build whatever narratives you want from this data that niggers are stupid etc. I don't care about that. The point I'm making in this thread is explicitly that racial essentialism is, as of the current state of the scientific corpus, totally unsupported.

I said it was wrong earlier and that's my bad. I got carried away. The more accurate statement with respect to essentialism being "scientifically objective" is that the state of the science is such that its claims are indistinguishable, via experimental data, from claims that God exists and that we are all floating backwards through the ninth dimension. It's total speculation.
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>>533702516
at least you are not the worst leftist: you are still willing to learn from experience.
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>>533703853
Well, the problem is that we can't have a reasonable and rational argument about it, because the very idea is heretical and you get punished for even arguing it.

In the end it all boils down to trickery about definitions. Either you define the relatively different genome of Africans and Europeans as significant, or you don't.
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>>533702516
I pray you aren't in close proximity
That's what enhanced mine.
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>>533703936
You get punished for it for reasons other than the data. You get punished for it because you are very obviously bringing in your racist priors. You aren't arguing forward from the data -- you are fitting the data to your preconceived notions of racial essentialism. To people who care about science, this is actually the exact thing YOU guys accuse THEM of doing: cheapening the scientific process in service of political goals.

It's not "heretical" to propose that races have different IQs. It is UNSUPPORTED BY THE DATA. There is a fucking difference. Your unwillingness to admit that what you are doing is driven more than your (racist) priors than it is by the data is WHY EVERYONE IN SCIENCE HATES YOU. Not because it's heresy, but because your unscientific method is wrong... and fucking racist.

You don't care about being called a racist. That's fine. If that's your right to be racist, it's my right to fucking hate you for it. If you don't care that you are confidently endorsing political positions as if they are scientific, I don't have to care that it hurts your feelings to be excluded.

Fuck you.
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>>533704150
>It's not "heretical" to propose that races have different IQs. It is UNSUPPORTED BY THE DATA.
But it is. That's what all the data shows.
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>>533704206
You know what I fucking meant. The entire post surrounding it (and above) explains explicitly what is unsupported and already addresses this insipid attemptive "gotcha" moment.
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>>533702884
midwit tier post
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>>533703936
Lower pH / more acidic = less likely to get pregnant (copper IUDs do the same thing).

The L in L. crispatus and L. iners stands for Lactobacillus. Meaning they produce lactic acid, with crispatus producing the most. That explains the low pH and the lower prevalence of bacterial infections. The lower pH precluding the reproduction of other bacteria. Also, fewer diseases.

Africans (and some spics) fall into the same vaginal pH range as chimps/baboons/bonobos etc.

White woman body kills more sperm, so she needs more frequent intercourse. European genes are so selective that a Euro vagina is more likely to generate pregnancy from repetitive breeding, selecting for intentionality. And the pH level might ensure only the best sperm inseminates by killing the average sperm.

White women also have the widest hips and widest birth canals, and white babies have the largest craniums. Vastly more c-sections when non-White females are birthing children from White males.
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>>533702516
>I went from the least racist man alive to feeling pure anger whenever I encounter an Indian.
i know
usually anti indian racism in the wild comes from IT tranies who lost their DEI job
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>>533702516
>>533702742
You brought them to your country you are traitors. When Chuds take back their country they won't forgive you.
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>>533704288
I know what you meant, but the problem is that reality is the opposite of what you think it is. All objective research into the matter shows that there are significant differences between the races. Which just stands to reason, since the genetic difference between the human races is actually pretty large, like I said, had we been any other animal and this not such a politically sensitive topic, we'd consider several human races different species.

Now, note that I'm not doing a value judgment on human beings in this. That's you.
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>>533704150
>I don't like that you disagree with me, therefore everyone hates you
You have to go back
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>>533702516
>I can't imagine what the more conservative people are like right now
Don't feel anything.
We moved past anger a long time ago.
Enjoy your jeets.
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>>533702884
>Most of the genetic variation within our species happens within regional groups rather than between them. To put it in another way, the genetic distance between two members of the same race is more likely to be greater than the distance between two people of different races
or in other words I'm genetically closer to a nigger in my state than a white person in Europe.
you are such a faggot.
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>>533704150
ai post. you can change the emdashes to double dashes but you can't change the ai flavour of the post
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>>533702516
What's to like ?
They've been trashing their own country for millenniums... now that they're Unleashed on the entire planet their turd terraforming the place... they're disgusting people shit eating piss-drinking rape rats what's the fucking like? I lived in India for 6 months it's mind boggling it's like entering a fucking farside cartoon. They're lying disgustingly dishonest below bored fucking poos. What's the like?
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>>533704501
Have you ever considered the possibility that the reason why AI types like it does is because it was trained on people who communicate like I do? You know -- coherent sentences, paragraphs which organize themselves into specific points, and a general working memory of where the reader is with respect to both where they've already been and where I want them to end up?

It's called literacy, anon. L I T E R A C Y.
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>>533702516
Way past you dude, I hate everyone.
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I can only assume you got divorced, many such cases.
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>>533704449
>since the genetic difference between the human races is actually pretty large, like I said, had we been any other animal and this not such a politically sensitive topic, we'd consider several human races different species.
All human variation across our entire species is expressed across fractions of one percent. From Eurasia to fucking Australia -- a fraction of one percent. Fucking look it up, you fucking moron.

Yes, there are differences. That is not what this argument is about, and the fact that you are STILL making such insipid points with such a moron's confidence -- the intellectual equivalent of fucking retard strength -- makes me want to pound rusty nails into my ballsack with a frozen fish. That would be more enjoyable than reading one more line of neophytic, racist bullshit.

So, for the last time, yes, there are differences. Racial essentialism with respect to intelligence is NOT the statement that there are genetic differences between populations. There are. That is data. What is NOT data is the argument that:
>IQ is genetic
>the genetics of IQ are both known to ANY predictive degree and LOCALIZED WITHIN RACIAL POPULATIONS
The above points are pure fucking narrative.

Just fucking stop with this shit for fuck's sake. Where what you believe isn't outright incorrect, it is trivial; where it is not trivial, it's complete and utter fucking speculation driven by nothing more than your specious fucking priors.

It's time to grow up.
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>>533704915
>a fraction of one percent.
So what? Yes, will you argue that dogs and coyotes are the exact same thing because their genetic difference is a less than a fraction of one percent?

>So, for the last time, yes, there are differences.
Well, that's all I said.

>IQ is genetic
It is. It's well known that IQ is an inheritable trait to a large degree. There's no controversy around that at all.

Then we just pretend that the average IQ is the same in different racial populations, even though that's not what the data shows at all.
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I'm actually pro-Indian since they make women and their simps seethe. I don't plan on living in the west much longer, so I don't care if it gets overrun. I only live to see women suffer.
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>>533704501
Def not ai
Very stupid but not ai. You'd probably get an ai to concede there is a difference given how easy they are to trick.
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>>533705050
No thing other than the thing itself is the """"same thing"""" you fucking dunce. You gormless fucking window-licker. What is it which propels you to believe that this is an even marginally defensible point to make? You would be kicked on your ass out of a freshman high school AP class in fucking ARKANSAS for being so fucking tirelessly moronic.

Sorry, dude, I can't take you seriously anymore. You've been given chance after chance to rise to the level of the discussion. I'm out.
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>>533705456
Well, good bye then. Your style of argument seems to mostly rely on appeals to authority and ad hominems. Probably why you don't convince many rational people of your position, so you could stand to work on that. Glad I'm not in academia these days, a very hostile and anti-intellectual environment.
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>>533705063
i guess thats pretty based
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>>533702516
i am pro-bindian because they are raping leftoid institutions. this is an act of mercy, anon. you will be ejected from the torment nexus, and they will destroy it from the inside.

also if you have any kind of spiritual attainment inside of yourself the bindians will recognize it on sight and see you as a demigod. so, y'know, i can't help but see 'em as cute little fuck puppies
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>>533702516
The left is right that racism is learned, but we learn from interactions with other races.
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>>533703034
>imagine having interracial cuck porn on your computer
Jew
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>>533703199
Trains man is hard job.
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>>533703267
This, so long as segregation is considered anything less than the compromise position, we have a lot more work to do.
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>>533705890
Trains vagene no.1 yankee bro saar
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>>533703853
it's abstract pattern recognition. that's the test. that's what non-verbal IQ measures, and it's why europeans traditionally have very high IQs because europe was an environment that selected very heavily for abstract reasoning

the euro who figured out that birds flying in the same direction means that winter was coming survived a lot longer and had a lot more kids who survived than the euro who did not. meanwhile, the african who figured out how to predict the rainy season wasn't much better off than the africans who just moved the fuck out of the way, so the genes responsible for abstract reasoning and the rearing strategies that develop such didn't achieve such prevalence

the fact that you were incapable of extracting the property being tested from the nature of the test itself is proof positive that you are a midwit
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>>533705864
Yes that’s no surprise

Jews always choose to be cucks and losers. I see this all the time with my own eyes.
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>>533702884
That's Lewontin's fallacy you absolute moron, what you're spouting has been debunked for decades.
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>>533704915
You keep mentioning genetic variation. Variation of what and what is its significance in the topic?
There are 3 billion nucleotides in the human DNA. A point mutation changing a single one in the right place can make you medically retarded. Or it might be completely irrelevant.
If we define race as a collection of phenotypic traits, as it's usually done, genetic variation in the metabolism of a random alkaloid is as relevant as the variation in ball scratching frequency.

>>533705050
Average IQ is different across population, but intra population variation is usually large enough to make race or ethnicity an unreliable indicator. If you need a smart guy you pick one based on a quick behaviour assessment, not on hair color.
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>>533707285
>Average IQ is different across population, but intra population variation is usually large enough to make race or ethnicity an unreliable indicator.
Of course. This is just about averages.



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