pay up great satan
Pay the toll
>>533710136>Permanently banned from passage: Israeli-linked vessels
It's only a 1% charge. Peanuts.
>>533710136So kikels, how's your Persian spring going?
>>533710136>Iran posted new requirements to pass the tollbooth>pay up great satanFuck yesThey are about to become rich as shitEgypt makes $700 billion a year off tolls thru the SuezThe Jews hate this and this is why they sabotaged the Suez a few years ago so people would think how much better it would be if we had a way around the Suez. This is why they just bombed Palestine into oblivion because the Ben Gurion canal they want to build will run right thru the low lying farm land in Gaza. They needed to run all those people out of the way first. Then they planned to build the Ben Gurion canal so they can start taking money on transit fees to siphon money away from Egypt and the Suez.They are going to be absolutely ass mad at Iran for charging fees on the Hormuz. I dont doubt this will cause even more strife with the Jews and make them try even more sabotage against Iran.
>>533710335IRS started out as 1% only for the 1%ers.Interesting the 1%ers screamed it was really the 0.0001%ers using the Fed Govt to spy on them and use the intel to play monopoly, and they were right."1%er" is only a mildly successful small biz with maybe 20 employees.
>>533710639Then just pay the 270 billion in damages. That's a preliminary figure estimated by Iran. If Trump pays, the Straight opens. Immediately.
>>533710335Yes, it adds up to about $1 dollar per barrel of oil.This seems like peanuts and will only cost about $2-3 million per tanker for transit fees. When they are doing this 10-20 times a day it adds up QUICK!!!!!!!! Think about how rich Iran would be with $20-$50 million PER DAY injected into their economy.Shits so cash and Trump listened to the wrong people again. Fell for it again award goes to Orange Man Bad. HONKHONK
>>533710136>Tolls must be paid in Iranian RialsChinese blunder. They're either too chickenshit to try and break the petrodollar or the Iranians have gotten irritated with their weak response to the US blockade. You should not, in fact, do nothing forever.
>>533710136SO. MUCH. WINNING. Trumpbros my body can’t handle all this winning
>>533710832So? What are the fees to cross Suez?
>>533710887Or the equivalent in Yuen.
>>533710887Tolls wont do shit if they’re not getting paid. Ships are still stuck there.
>>533710136Both the Dems and Republicans are working very hard as we speak behind the scene to sell this war to the American people and prepare us for large death tolls and even a Draft. And the American people will line up and not do shit just like the Covid Jab. Just remember it was Trumps Operation Warp speed, and Joe Biden was taking the jab live on T.V. Dems want this war just as much as Republicans, this is for Israel.
>>533711025The first tranche of tolls has been received by the Iranian central bank today.
>>533710136how quaint, formalizing a rule you won't get to use
>>533711068But ships aren’t moving now. They got what $50 million? That dwarfs their oil exports to China.
If the war is over, this is all very tolerable. But the war won't end until you hand over your nuclear weapons material. You won't hand it over, and when we bomb your country to the stone age you'll still cry the victim.You're like a mad man waving a gun around who gets taken out by the world police. Just put the gun down and you can keep your power plants and bridges. Otherwise this war continues. I'm comfy.
>>533710136>Mario NawfalAnother sand person simping for Israel how typical
>>533711025The US cannot stop Chinese ships without starting WWIII. But the chinks are too cowardly to call our bluff. The same thing happened with the tariffs. The Chinese could have snapped our economy over their knee, but were too cowardly to press the issue. So, just like that, this will get needlessly drawn out into an everyone loses situation instead of ending it immediately and humiliating the US in the process. No one snatches defeat from the jaws of victory quite like a Chinaman.
>>533711498Yea it a bit sad, unless Iran can expel the USN from the blockade they can’t enforce any tolls.
>>533711498>day-4 Iran meme
>>533711657They're building a nuclear bomb...... while they chant "death to America".It's intolerable.
>>533711147they've already gotten payment from many ships until the US setup our illegal blockade
>>533711580He isnt simping for Israel. He is the Left’s puppet. Iranian shill.
>>533712072Wtf are you talking about? He's pro Israel
Just you wait, Jews are so fucking smarter and stronger then you realize. They don't even care about the iron dome because they're about to unleash their ultimate weapon. They are combining all of their nobel prizes, with all of their saved up forskins, and every book by sigmund freud together like a power rangers toy and then they will enter into their final form which until now was only for seen by the prophet Isaiah
>>533710989>So? What are the fees to cross Suez?The Suez Canal Authority (SCA) calculates tolls based on ship type, size, and fuel, converting fees into Special Drawing Rights (SDR) and then to USD. Costs can range from $30,000 to over $700,000 for large vessels,https://use.ai/03a13304-365e-487e-90a1-842a134cf7ff>Rates are tiered by SCNT brackets (e.g., first 5,000 tons, next 5,000, up to "the rest") and vary by vessel type (13 categories like crude oil tankers, containerships, LNG carriers), load status (laden or ballast), and sometimes direction (northbound/southbound) or special conditions (e.g., draft >14.33m adds tugs; gas-free certificates for tankers). Fees are charged in Special Drawing Rights (SDR) per SCNT unit, convertible to USD or other accepted currencies.>SCNT Bracket Rate (SDR/SCNT)>First 5,000 tons 11.04>Next 5,000 7.82>Next 10,000 5.91>Next 20,000 2.93>Next 30,000 2.53>Next 50,000 2.17>The rest 2.13An average oil tanker passing through the Suez Canal typically pays roughly $300,000 to over $500,000 in transit fees, depending on its size and loaded weight. Large vessels like Very Large Crude Carriers (VLCCs) face higher fees
>>533710630It's true the only reason they want Palestine is to become a toll booth. That's you're great third temple of the mighty Jew, a gypsy toll booth in the sand
>>533711245Around 35 ships went through the 'blockade'. Could be because there are three Chinese warships in the region. In case the US wants another war. But probably TACO before even starting.
>>533710136Iranians are realizing they have global power.Lmao, Trump created a new superpower that will have a nuke arsenal in 2 years
Its so retarded that we are playing this begotiation game at all and not just blowing up their entire country. Trump is too worried about appearances.
>>533712236>It's true the only reason they want Palestine is to become a toll booth. That's you're great third temple of the mighty Jew, a gypsy toll booth in the sandYou dont gotta trust me, trust the Israeli news papers.
>>533710887Doesn't seem like China cares. They didn't even care when Iran first announced the tolls would be in yuan. China plans for the long term so I'm guessing they don't see leading the oil economy as stable and would rather keep running the renewable energy sector
US should charge any country allied with iran double what Iran is charging
>>533711627Nah this is why concerns about China as a global hegemon are overblown. Fundamentally the Chinese lack the will to project power abroad. They literally just want to trade and run their kingdom. They've been fucking with us because we fucked with them and became weak. They're never going to police the world's oceans or contest imperial power in Africa, just maintain trade networks and exploit vacuums.
>>533712552>Its so retarded that we are playing this begotiation game at all and not just blowing up their entire country. >Trump is too worried about appearances.You cant just blow up Iran because they have not done anything wrong. All the BS saber rattling back and forth of everyone in DC and the comped and controlled media going on and on about how bad Iran is, is absolutely complete and utter bullshit. The puppets in DC have been pushing the media to claim that Iran is bad. Israel, the Jews, Mossad, have been running proxy armies in the middle east for the past 20 years and have been doing all sorts of sabotage and have blamed everything on Iran. All of this was to set the stage in the media and make people in the west believe that Iran was behind all of this chaos in order to gaslight everyone into believing that we needed war against Iran. All of this is so the Jews can take over Iran and implement a FED to control the money. The Jews do this in every country they dont control, they get the JewNited States of JewMerica to bomb it to shit and then they take it over. Every bit of this is to take over Iran since they do not control Iran, its money, its oil, or its gold.
>>533712717>US should charge any country allied with iran double what Iran is chargingThat would be piracy on the high seas Eventually someone will hold the JewSA accountable for all of their war crimes.
>>533712758>Nah this is why concerns about China as a global hegemon are overblown. Fundamentally the Chinese lack the will to project power abroad. They literally just want to trade and run their kingdom. They've been fucking with us because we fucked with them and became weak. They're never going to police the world's oceans or contest imperial power in Africa, just maintain trade networks and exploit vacuums.Dig into what all China doesChina used a shell company in New Zealand to buy up 80% of the California Palisades land that went up for sale since the wildfires last year. This means Chinese companies and institutions bought up thousands of acres of prime California land and you can bet your ass they didnt buy it to lose money. They have something in store for it, redevelop it and lease it at astronomical prices, develop it into solar and wind farms to extract profits forever, drill for oil, i dunno but they didnt buy it for the hell of it.
>>533710136Fuck this shit. Open means open. It will rain bombs every day in Iran until they stop fucking around and open the fucking Strait.
>>533710136Based Iran.
I thought the mullahs didn’t need money, why are they seething about the blockade so much?
>>533710136I'm getting tired of winning Mr Trump.
>>533710136I haven't been paying much attention to the war, so this is probably an idiotic question, but it's a serious one. Why doesn't Trump just nuke Iran and seize the Strait as American territory?
>>533712710>China plans for the long termYes, but they're also risk averse to the point of self sabotage. They consistently pass up low risk, high reward opportunities to press their advantages. Because they would rather take no immediate risk at all and let things slowly work themselves out in their favor. But that's actually more risky in the long term.Things change. Advantages you thought you had today can be gone tomorrow. Just assuming that you can rest on your laurels is how the Chinese fell behind the West in the first place. If you want to comfortably pull ahead and stay ahead, you have to be willing to act when your opponents stumble.
>>533710136This has the same energy of Chris Chan shooting curses at people.
>>533710223or literally burn the coal (cause you won't get oil)
>>533712758It doesn't matter if they have global ambitions. If you won't hurt the people that fuck with you, they're going to keep doing it. Even just to secure their regional hegemony, they will need to confront the US.
>>533710136I don't get it. Can't we just use satellite's to pinpoint where drones/missiles get launched and blow them up at the source?
>>533713925Xi literally purged his military. My dude comfy just wanting to leave this shit to his successor. Going up against the US is still a high risk gambit, i’m sure taiwan is more of a headache for him. They did get african nations to restrict air space.
>>533710136We're going to have to drop these fools
>>533710136>You must pay the toll.>If you called us faggots in the past, you pay double, faggot.>All contracts must state "Fuck kikes, fuck niggers, and fuck jannies.">Did we mention "no jews"?>t. IranI love these people.
>>533710639fun fact. the W-4 and W-9 forms are only for "US sourced income to foreign citizens or companies". yet every employer and (((payment system))) makes you fill one out.why? so the IRS can levy a tax on the goys and claim the W-2 and 1099 is lawful because YOU told them so (via W-4 or W-9).if you don't believe me go look up the tax code and law. no where in there does it say the average US citizen is subject to income tax on their wages. it's the biggest gaslighting and scam ever pulled off and people go along with it.
>>533710136>paid in Iranian Rialsthey're out of money and can't pay the toll booth guys
>>533710136What did Trump gain from all this exactly? Truly the shart of the squeal
>>533710323That last one should be Big Tech and the Federal government
>>533714049>Going up against the US is still a high risk gambitNormally, yes. But we have gone out of our way to give them an absurdly low risk way to hurt us badly. This Iran shit has real potential to destroy the petrodollar, which would cripple the US. And the only power we have to stop it is by escalating a war with zero popularity at home and no allies anywhere on Earth by firing the first shots at the only other global power. Not only will we not shoot, even if we did China would still come out on top. We have zero winning moves. And they know it. They've seen our cards. They know we have nothing. And yet they're folding.
>>533713155That's fundamentally trade action and the result of power vacancy in the US. Whatever they're planning is monetary in nature; they're never going to attempt military action against California, and anything nefarious will cease when we reassert authority: they'll accept expulsion with less resistance than cartels will, because they fundamentally don't want to get into fights. (They're very smart in that way, and are essentially post-conflict; their memes reflect this.)>>533714037But they are hurting us. The fentanyl scourge is tit-for-tat retaliation for the Opium Wars. Our elites just don't care to do anything about it.>that wasn't us!The Chinese don't care and are culturally ambivalent to distinctions beyond their boarders. From their point of view the global American empire is the same entity as the British empire.
>>533710136What's a terrorist gonna do?>Become a bridge troll
>>533714467If China attacks the U.S. it attacks its allies. China doesn't want that, it wants to trade with the U.S. and with Europe, so it's far more beneficial to let the U.S. destroy its own relationships with its allies, meaning more countries will turn to China and open more trade with those countries while still being able to trade with America. And like I said earlier, China doesn't have a problem trading oil in USD and probably doesn't see a long term benefit in leading the oil market because they're betting on renewable energy taking over eventually anyway (which they're already the leader in). So no reason for them to do anything since they're not expansionist meatheads like the U.S.
>>533710136Time to start dropping MOABs every 12 hours for about a week.
>>533710136Iran will be the new America.
>>533715306>But they are hurting us.Slowly and gradually. While giving up their chances to hit us hard. That's retarded. All they're doing is giving us a chance to recover and possibly come out ahead. Or for a third party to rise and be able to use us against one another.>>533716009They share the world with us expansionist meatheads. And standing back and waiting for your adversaries to destroy themselves is a retarded gamble. They are profoundly lucky it's even worked out as well as it has. But if that luck runs out and the US manages to course correct, they're going to be kicking themselves wishing they had pushed us down when we were unsteady.>If China attacks the U.S. it attacks its allies.That's the most retarded part of all. They don't have to attack us. We're the ones that have to attack them to stop them from fucking us over. And we have no allies. There is no one left on this planet who would side with us. You could not dream of a better opportunity than this, but they just won't take it.
>>533717454Where did it all go wrong for the USA?
>>533710136LMAO! Shitworlders think they can do anything lol
>>533710323>demands America’s most expensive up to date tech for free and then sells to China for a pretty penny.
>>533717647
it's not a real war until the bab al mandeb is hormussiedand fyi for all non mil out there--this is just training for u s of a
>>533710136Now how many ships pass through the strait per day?
>>533710136unfathomably based
>>533710136holy fuck this means Iran was so generous beforeIranians keep looking more and more like altruistic aryans
>>533718208Before the war: 138 per dayDuring the war: 5 or 6 per day
>>533717454>luckExplain exactly which factor here is luck based. If you mean America basically destroying itself, the Chinese have been saying this is inevitable since the Mao days. I know that as an American you can't imagine a government planning more than a year or two ahead, much less 60 years ahead, but even with the surface level understanding I have of Chinese politics and history it's obvious that China isn't accidentally about to become the world's largest superpower. Do you think China became the entire world's most important manufacturing partner through luck? Do you think that all of Europe is slowly choosing China over the country that singlehandedly established and controls the current world order because China got really lucky? China has many flaws, but planning is not one. And like I said, China has no reason to do anything right now because it benefits from Iran controlling the strait financially more than it does controlling it themselves. China likes other countries being stable because it's better for trade.
>>533713805>using a nuke in an unprovoked war of aggressionthat has consequences ranging from a global embargo of the united states to the total destruction of humanitymore specifically, it's because the president doesn't have the power to single-handedly order a nuclear strike, and the other people with a say in the matter aren't as evil as trump
>>533710136Reminds me of leftist states that have toll roads.
>>533720278>Explain exactly which factor here is luck basedDonald Trump. That an israeli asset happened to be so retarded that he did more damage to American hegemony in a year than China has managed in half a century is nothing short of a miracle for the Chinese. Without him, the odds were against China. Their demographic issues would have kneecapped them before they could unseat the US if we had simply continued decaying at the same rate. And if they don't do anything now, we could end up returning to that status quo. If, in a hundred years, China is back to getting bullied by foreigners they will look back on this as the moment they fucked up.
compelling, how about we beat the shit out of them instead?
Build a canal. Dynamite one cliff system and it's done.
>>533721013that's omanoman is on iran's side
>>533721091The entirety of Panama's GNP comes from the canal. Tell the Omanis how much they would make in canal passage fees just by undercutting Iran slightly.
>>533712326If the Chinese warships aren't going to Iranian ports, there's no reason to bother them. Seriously, the UAE and Saudi Arabia have oil too. The Chinks can go buy from them.
pay the fucking toll you whiteoid kuffar freak!
>>533710887That move will make the Iranian currency far stronger than it is. It makes more sense than outsourcing that to China.
>>533720833Are you a lib or something? The idea that Trump (An aging billionaire who's desperate to be immortalized and so greedy for power that he won't even give it up when he's on the brink of dementia) is not a perfectly natural next step for the U.S. is laughable. Unless we're going to go full commie, capitalism does not stop, and imperialism is just the highest form of capitalism. Like I said, the Chinese have been saying that this would happen since Mao, and even Mao in the 60s was directly naming Israel as being an extension of the U.S. expansionism that would eventually lead to this. If it wasn't Trump then it was just going to be someone else eventually. Biden's foreign policy advisor even came out when the war started and went on the news saying that Trump was using a plan they drew up during Biden's term and were going to use in his possible 2nd term before he dropped out.Also what you said about China was retarded cope but your fan fiction is irrelevant anyway because Trump did happen and now we're here. If you really want to believe that things playing out exactly how the Chinese have been saying it would for the last 60 years is luck then that's on you. I encourage you to learn about Chinese history and politics and then you'll understand why they always meet most of the goals they set in every 5 year plan they release
We Love Americans — But Not Their LeadersNew AI LEGO Video from IRANhttps://youtu.be/2R7xUxtd5Bk
>Must reference Persian Gulf>Deadnaming the Gulf of Trump:^(
>>533710136>Persian Gulf is closed permanently to any and all israeli vessels Gigabased if I do say so myself.
>>533710136Is this what winning bigly feels like?
>>533723505Nothing about Trump was inevitable. Not even the jews that own him predicted how much of an abject failure he has been. Without some very specific and retarded circumstances (over which China had zero influence), we would still be treading water with a succession of regular conservatives and liberals. Yes, they would be israeli puppets. But we've had generations of israeli puppets who managed to not rock the boat too much. And any other person picked to take advantage of those retarded circumstances would likewise have done a better job than Trump. The Chinese were handed a gift and they have refused it. You say I should learn about Chinese history. But I know enough to know this is not the first time this has happened. This particular brand of complacent hubris has been a consistent problem for the Chinese that they have apparently still not shaken off. Up until very recently, I was certain China would end up usurping the US as global hegemon. Now, I'm confident it will never happen. The US could descend into full blown civil war and balkanize and the Chinese will still sit there with their thumbs up their asses waiting for whatever power rises from the chaos to sieze power and destroy them.
>>533724420>why isnt china invading cuba and Venezuela and iran like us>they must be failingOr maybe they know an endless string of forever wars doesnt help
>>533710136All of this is pointless as long as the US has the resolve to maintain the blockade. The US and most of the West will adapt to the fuel shortage that affects mostly Asia long before we lift the blockade. Iran of course will just keep seething and coping as they remain blockaded. One they can't pay their IRGC thugs we'll see the stubbornness drop real quick.
>>533724420And Trump immediately tore up TPP and TTIP that would have put the US, Western Europe, and much of Asia in a trade and R&D bloc that could exceed China, and lock them in to Western financial institutions.
>>533724420> Not even the jews that own him predicted how much of an abject failure he has been. Without some very specific and retarded circumstances (over which China had zero influence), we would still be treading water with a succession of regular conservatives and liberals. Yes, they would be israeli puppets. But we've had generations of israeli puppets who managed to not rock the boat too much.Jesus you’re young and retarded. Bro, all wars are banker wars. What that means is that wars don’t happen until financial systems start bursting at the seams, and all of the participants collectively understand that fighting is the only way through the banking crisis, for a million complex reasons. The USD is like 37 trillion in the hole dude. SS is going to begin defaulting in various ways within a couple of years. Figures like Trump are a symptom of the underlying issues, not the cause of them. Do you think everything was going wonderfully in the late Roman Republic, and everyone were just heckin meanie retards who supported Julius Caesar? They were desperate and the various social and societal systems they depended on were falling apart. An intelligent person maybe formulates opinions about what we can do at this time to pull us through. But pretending like everything was magical and we just needed to go deeper into debt and screw the American working class more was how we arrived at this point in the first place.
>>533710136Greater Satan bros, our response?
>>533710630>Egypt makes $700 billion a year off tolls thru the SuezHoly fuck, there's European countries with GDP of like a trillion or less. These fucks make almost a trillion on tolls alone and their country is an absolute poor shitheap.
>>533724803How does this war solve the debt problem
>>533724731>Trump is at fault because he didn’t go full globohomo replace every last American in a desperate attempt to maintain the globohomo jew empire We’ve already been outsourced, replaced and impoverished for decades you stupid nigger. Joining TPP would have put that process onto a rocket ship and blasted off Fuck outta here with your globohomo jew imperialism. That retarded shit unironically led to and enabled the Gaza genocide.
>>533724530That you feel the need to attack an argument no one was making says it all. All the Chinese have to do is call the bluff of the US blockade. That's it. No invasions or bombings. No one is talking about anything like that. Just keep sailing. You could even consider it a version of doing nothing.If they can't do this, then the century of humiliation is guaranteed to receive a sequel. Perhaps not by the US. But someone will fill the gap. And the Chinese will do nothing about it.
>>533710223Which one?
>>533724957You're so fucking stupid. China gets 10% of their oil from Iran. They don't fucking need it. They can buy more from Russia and buy from the US. Iran doesn't deliver profits or risk mitigation. Its a shithole and highly unpopular country that gives almost nothing to China except a way to hedge your risks. Well China hedged their risks and moved on. They don't need another trade war with the US which could help bring about social unrest.
>>533724908They’re resetting how oil is traded globally for starters. Venezuela almost assuredly was offered the same deal the KSA was offered in 72. They’re going do a currency reset thing, and the newer version of the Dollar will be backed by an ocean of oil exports from Venezuela and North America. The way the world economy was set up always existed that way because WE built it that way. But our adversaries use us and screw us too much, and cause to many problems. You can think I’m full of shit, but then again I’m an oldfag who’s been around since the dawn of time. Maybe buy a few Chevron stocks (they have Venezuela exposure) and see how it does in the coming year(s). Or are you one of those>but nobody could have seen it coming! Retards?
>>533710733>strait opens immediatelylmaopools closed forever
>>533725204> Its a shithole and highly unpopular country that gives almost nothing to ChinaYou think a country that supplies 10% of the oil needs for your own manufacturing economy powerhouse country isn’t delivering something of value? That you obtained that oil for decades at steep discounts precisely because they couldn’t sell to other people is a nothingburger? God damn bro. Energy is everything, what’s the matter with you?
>>533725338> pools closed foreverBased. I’m really sick of the Gulf Arabs, Persians, and chinks anyway.
>>533720043And how much is that per year in toll revenue? And how many of those ships are their own ships and won't be paying tolls?
>>533714389>it should be ZOG, not IsraelSame difference
>>533725427Clearly China doesn't fucking need it otherwise you would t be crying about it. China isn't retarded. If it was some break or make shit you would bet they'd be doing something more aggressive. 10% is nothing for a country like China that is highly diversified energy inputs. The last thing they need is an America that is willing to hyper-arm Taiwan or an America that starts even faster and more aggressive proliferation of weapons across SEA. Or an America that starts a trade war that pushes the already high unemployment numbers even higher. But yes you're just another retard armchair general who thinks others should take risks for your own personal amusement. No different then the fags who say "to the last Iranian" while they sit in their air conditioned apartment.
>>533710136based iran.pay the toll to get into boys hole
>>533724803Trump isn't Julius Caesar, you mongrel. I explicitly mentioned that any other candidate that could have filled his shoes would have done a better job. A Marius, a Sulla, a Caesar, the brothers Gracchi. All of them at least brought something to the table. Which is why, despite the Roman republic falling, Rome itself endured. It even recovered and for a time became stronger than it had ever been. That's the gamble that China is taking every time they pass up an opportunity to finish us off. A single remotely decent roll of the dice and everything they've worked for will be for nothing. Even just mediocre leadership would still be enough for the US to coast for longer than China has before they too are in crisis.And no, this war did not happen because of fucking bankers. It happened because jews miscalculated their greater israel project. Which itself was a consequence of Trump enabled hubris. More Bushes and Obamas would have kept the israelis down to Earth enough to have the patience for a proper destabilization instead of just lobbing missiles and praying.
>>533725826>ching Chong butthurt intensifies If it’s such a non-issue, why are the chinks in such a dither trying to that that straight reopened for business? The setup of the world economy that the chinks used to screw us for decades and power their meteoric economic rise is gone. It’s not coming back. Better figure out a way to organize your economy in the new paradigm
>>533710630>>533724883because it's more like 7 billion, it's certainly not 700 billion
>>533725204>10% of their oil>they don't need itAlso, congratulations on making the exact same mistake that reduced the US and Russia to our current states. Who needs other countries to trust them, right?
>>533713368>Fuck this shit. Open means open. It will rain bombs every day in Iran until they stop fucking around and open the fucking Strait.Is this Trump???
>>533725826>an America that is willing to hyper-arm Taiwan or an America that starts even faster and more aggressive proliferation of weapons across SEA. Or an America that starts a trade war that pushes the already high unemployment numbers even higher.How would we do any of that if the petrodollar collapses?
>>533725878> More Bushes and Obamas would have kept the israelis down to Earth enough to have the patience for a proper destabilization instead of just lobbing missiles and praying.Nah, I like the way things are. I’ve hated the setup of the globohomo jew global economy my entire life, because it was set up to screw us and reward our adversaries. In any event, we saw that strategy you’re arguing for play out in Ukraine. You globohomos destabilized the legitimately elected government in Ukraine in 2014 and installed that loser Zelensky shortly thereafter. He spent years wasting huge numbers of good White men’s lives, all for nothing but losing for evil jews who hate us.I’d rather just reset the global economy. We know leftist globohomo fucks hate ethnic Europeans, that’s why you all instigated a massive war there to begin with. The way you run empires is gay and your shits all retarded. If you can’t figure out Trump is a chaos dude just like Julius Caesar was, it’s kind of pointless for you to try and remember the names of various Roman statesmen anyway. Apparently your comprehension is so low you miss the actual important takeaways.
>>533726259The same way Russia had been doing for decades despite never having a petroruble you fucking retard
>>533717647>Where did it all go wrong for the USA?>>533718087Good answerAckshually the Jews took over the JewNited States of JewMerica before Obama but things got drastically worse for us after Obama so i will still agree with you.
>>533726259If the chinks become dependent on North American and Venezuelan oil to keep their economy running, they obviously can’t go to war with the U.S. over Taiwan. An intelligent person would see how the chess pieces are being arranged on the board. You’re asking questions like “How is it going to be solved within the paradigm I’m used to?” And that’s the point, it won’t. The paradigm is going to change. These kind of time periods don’t happen with extreme regularity in human history, but they always do eventually without fail. They especially happen in and to countries that are playing empire games.
>>533726351>Nah, I like the way things are.I'm not saying I liked it. I'm saying that's what China had to expect. Getting Trump instead has been extremely lucky for them.>>533726382You mean the Russia that is a weak, sanctioned shithole stuck in a forever war with one of its former vassals and whose "support" is a harbinger of defeat? That Russia?
>>533726616>You mean the Russia that is a weak, sanctioned shithole stuck in a forever war with one of its former vassals and whose "support" is a harbinger of defeat? That RussiaWhat are you talking about? I said decades for a reason.
>>533712072He posts 24 hours a day, questionable it's even him and not staff members
>>533710136>less than $2 per barrel>oil went up like $10 just todayJust pay up, they won and they deserve the spoils, I'd buy nuclear weapons with the money for real if I were them
>>533726616> Getting Trump instead has been extremely lucky for them.Do you think any countries or governments out there act like hysterical retard women when they get very nervous? The chinks are quietly panicking right now. They’re watching their energy hungry economy slowly starved of the oil it needs. It’s like watching the titanic smash into an iceberg from two miles away knowing there’s nothing you can do about it. I’m not one of those two weeks to chink collapse shills, but it’s stupid to think China is in a winning position currently on this.
>>533726766While you’re loling about media portrayals, I’ll be loling when western Euro countries like yours start buying huge amounts of North American oil instead of the cheap Persian Gulf oil you’re used to. Don’t like it? Oil ain’t flowing out of the Persian Gukf anymore. Turns out your entire economic model was built around infrastructure and sea lanes we were the ones who ultimately established and actually protected with a navy. Do you think the U.S. Navy has had nothing to do with the safety of the commerce on the high seas since the end of WW2? Remember that next time you lol about burgers not having free healthcare like super smart Euros.
>>533710887China doesn't want a strong currency, they've been devaluating the yuan for 40 years now. They had a trillion trade surplus just after Trump declared his latest and failed trade war against them, that's worth more than some toll in another continent
>>533726692And they've been weak for decades. But also, this doesn't even make sense. Destroying the petrodollar is a way to fuck over the US because we have it to destroy. The US itself existed just fine before it. But now our entire economy and empire is on built on it. You can't kick a person who isn't on welfare off of welfare. But if you kick off someone who is, they're going to have a hard time.
>>533727116> China doesn't want a strong currency, they've been devaluating the yuan for 40 years now.China doesn’t have the luxury of making the same currency and economic choices it made for the last 50 years anymore. The U.S. was the country that set up all of the global infrastructure and trade deals to make it all happen. We’re pulling the plug on that now, nigger. Back? There’s no going back. Things have changed.
>>533727116This is the one legitimate argument and probably the one the Chinese tell themselves to justify their inaction. But I still think it's a mistake. The damage to the US would more than make up for it in the long term.
>>533727207> And they've been weak for decades. >But also, this doesn't even make sense.Nothing you say can be trusted or considered worthwhile, because Russia is clearly winning their war. Every real world condition and indicator shows that to be the case. China has a dependency on the U.S. for an incredible percentage of its export consumption, even to this day. It’s extremely dependent on foreign oil. Dependencies are a two way street anon. Sure a drug user is dependent on his dealer getting him drugs, but the dealer is dependent on his buyers buying his drugs. Drug deals also have needs, and an inability to move product causes major problems for them.
>>533727545Who said Russia was losing? They're stronger than Ukraine. But they're still a shadow of their former power.
>>533727293>China doesn’t have the luxury of making the same currency and economic choices it made for the last 50 years anymoreWhy not? They pulled 800 million people out of poverty in the last 30 years thanks to their export oriented socialism model, the most successful economic system in the history of mankind. They don't have to do anything, just let the US collapse by electing retarded pedophiles like Trump while they laugh and make money. They're winning as it is
>>533711058No. This and the cøøøøf are entirely different things. The cøøf was a mi or irritation, this is straight-up vietnam-style war.
>>533727350> and probably the one the Chinese tell themselves to justify their inaction>justify their inaction Anon, the chinks really have no history of empire other than a slow process of turning neighboring Chinese peoples into Han Chinese. They really have no history of foreign conquest and warfare. Which is actually quite impressive considering how old Chinese civilization is. I think that’s probably related to where their civilization has always been located, and their geography. Getting into China has never been particularly easy, only the Mongols really pulled it off.
>>533711859America? Never heard of it. What does it stand for?
>>533727902I'm not saying they should form a global empire. They shouldn't. It fucked the British over and it's currently fucking us over. But we are a threat to them and they are pussy footing around when they could be dealing decisive blows against us.
>>533713805Because nukes don’t actually exist is why. If nukes existed then Israel would Samson option the whole planet for calling out their Gaza genocide. >inb4 muh enriched uraniumIran being “two weeks away from a nuke” is the bullshit excuse that the ZOG is using for why war with Iran is a good thing actually, but in reality they just want to destroy their capacity for nuclear power in itself; it has nothing to do with nuclear bombs, but it sounds less egregious if it’s phrased that way.
>>533710136>oops iran added an american tax to the strait now we gotta raises property taxes
>>533711657Why would the US blockade interfere with Iranian tolls?
>>533711865yeah, at least a bajillion!>illegallol
