So what's the point of it and why do so many "right wings" like JD Vance and Peter Thiel suck this guy up so much?I tried to waddle through the wikipedia article, but at the end of the day it just looks like giga kikery where the middle men get replaced by jews and best goys directly.
>>533713048>it just looks like giga kikery where the middle men get replaced by jews and best goys directlyanswered your own question there
>>533713048Yarvin is good for learning why institutions slowly become left wing over time, but other than that it's kike nonsense on par with Zizek. His version of right wingism is explicitly pro-kike, or in some interpretations, willful kike-ignorance. He should be paraded around town as the peak example of what happens when high IQ people avoid the JQ for too long.
nick land is the one who came up with the term "dark enlightenment". you'll probably have to read his essay. he was inspired by moldbug's writings back in the day on a blog called unqualified reservations, particularly a piece called "patchwork" that called for governments to effectively operate as private corporations because they view democracy as a failed experiment. the opinions of the two dudes has changed a lot over time though. both of them are now basically just MAGAtards
>>533713407>avoid the JQ for too longCurtis Yarvin is literally a Jewish Supremacist.
>>533713048i don't understand how this ugly dysgenic stupid midwit kike became so prominenti know kikes prop their own but he peddles the most obvious of pro kike delusions, and there are kikes out there with more subtle selling pointssame with that other rat kike noah harariis it nepotism? is it chutzpah? in their own way, kikes are stupid
>>533713048Here is the Palantir manifesto, which follows Yarvin's ideology:https://twitter-thread.com/t/20455743985734533121. Ruling over you plebs is our duty.2. Fuck Apple for thinking otherwise.3. We deserve to be forgiven for anything we do because we increase the GDP.
>>533713048>>533713407>"You can just do stuff"Okay, so someone who opposes him can murder him right? You can just do things and nothing matters, right?
>>5337137224. We must be omnipotent.5. If we don't use AI to rule over you, someone else will.6. All of you plebs must be ready to die for us at any moment.7. Did I already say we must be omnipotent?8. We deserve to be payed billions of dollars.
>>533713048Its just a meme. These aren't serious people. Its not like moldbug is Kant
>>533713722We gave these people this with DOGE. All they did was do ketamine and let zoomers run Social Security for six months before getting bored. The techno elite are super incompetent.
>>5337137509. We can be as degenerate as we want because we also deserve that. 10. Aren't we so generous, sacrificing ourselves to rule over you?11. We have no enemies, only good servants and bad servants.12. AIs > nukes. And we own the AIs.13. We rule over you because we earned it.
>>53371380114. Unlimited power = peace, so you'd better give us unlimited power.15. Germany and Japan haven't fought a war in a while, we can fix that.16. Stop laughing at Elon, he deserves to rule over you.17. Total mass surveillance will fix crime. Don't you hate crime?
>>533713491>nick landApparently Nick Land is interesting to read pre-maga, what's worth reading of his?
>>533713048There is no point. It is just disgusting jews putting on an act. Kikes can see there is lots of money in AI so they are trying to grift people with it somehow, but they are WAY too stupid to even begin to understand how it works.
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>>533713048trent reznor looking old af
>>533713048Rightism being a low-IQ movement, there is a massive market of aspiring midwits on the right who want to claim pretensions to intellectualism. That is who Yarvin writes for. He sometimes has insights, but most of what he does is simply sound smart, which is enough for your average LARPing rightoid.
>>53371382816. Pls no bully elon. He is wetting his bed.
>>533713491>both of them are now basically just MAGAtardsNick Land is a plan truster, but Yarvin has always been skeptical of MAGA and Trump
>>533713491>nick landThe essay Dark Enlightenment or something else? Not sure if results aren't getting a bit mixed up.>MAGAtardsThat's it? I thought they were more their own, but Yarvin's twitter is in my opinion just shizo rambling with weirdly high profile republican retweets.>>533713722Yeah, pretty much what got me into finally looking this up.>>533713727Hol up. That's a thing? Fuck me if i missed that reference in the diy scene all this time.
>>533713048Jews are the middle men. What are you talking about?
>>533713491Governments literally are corporations.
>>533713564Every Jew is
>>533714378problem being that most men and women are oblivious to or not capable of recognizing or releasing from that lesser jurisdiction ie application of inchoate state of state corporate statutes requiring consent from the living because as a thing is bound so is it unbound
>>533713048>AI will fix every single problem so we should grind poor people into biomass Or something like that
I'm sorry, but why can't we press the button? After Charlie Kirk's neck got blown out? After Trump's tariffs got blocked by a judge? After Virginia disenfranchised 90% of Republicans in the state? I think his best quote is this:>The right cares about power the way a wine snob cares about alcohol. The left cares about power the way an alcoholic cares about alcohol. Guess who always wins?His solutions aren't always the best and he definitely is a Jewish supremacist, but he is correct that Trump and Republicans needs to be more shock and awe and actually seize the power of the executive branch if he wants to make a real difference towards fixing the country and win in 2026/2028.
>>533714875This is an honest thread. No need to pretend Trump still cares about America.
>>533715209He did, and I want to believe he still does. But it's hard to continue to say that when the 'experts' he trusts to negotiate with Iran happen to be his son-in-law. Or when he did nothing after Kirk was killed. Or when anything he does gets stopped by an Obama judge. Or when he seems to care more about appearances than results.
>>533713048listening to this pseud prattle on through recursive tangents in that egregious vocal fry is fucking torture
>>533713048He has this idea where he combines a state with a company so the state functions like a company, more or less. Got it because its one his main things.He essentially wants to turn the country into a bunch of this mini company states. This places would be a sort of dictatorships lead by a CEO like figure, and the CEO would take advice from a council of elite super smart people (hint: he considers himself part of this council of super smart peopl) and everyone else would work on what this CEO/council approves of, also anyone they dont like or that is deemed lesser as per the council (aka people that dont agree with him) will be forced into a simulation VR so they stay out of their way, how this technology works is a question for someone else to figure out i guess.So yeah he is unironically crazy and wants some sort of VR prisons and everyone else is his slave.
>>533713407>willful kike-ignoranceDid you read his articles in 2012? You didn't.
>>533713407Zizek makes A LOT more sense than this faggot.
>>533714300He gets a lot of attention because the right has largely ignored fostering intellectuals for maybe 80 years now, so anyone who kind of looks like an intellectual and comes with some weird vague right wing idea gets attention. Perfect time to jump into it if you wanna grift polfags, write some essay about complaining about democracy, say you want a dictatorship but dont call it a dictatorship or dont calltoyr dictator a dictator but do give them interesting names like you were writing a YA novel.
>>533715503Hey, man. I won't claim i didn't fall for it as well. In fact in 2018 i really hoped it would swap over to us as well. But now? Epstein may have been a big blunder, but iran was coffin in the nail sailout. No need to cope with it. Make the best of it, move on, maybe checkout what the others shizos are on about. Although i can't really recommend this one. The deeper you dig, the more you find random ramblings.>>533716214"Startup language" seems to be the preferred word.
>>533716214>>533715909It's just weird because I grew up listening to conservative talk radio, and no matter how much they talked about conservatism, libertarianism, and limited government they also had it in them to say "When will a Republican president come in and run this country like a business?" Every single one of them said this. Curtis Yarvin's writings are the natural conclusion of that mindset, and the election of Donald Trump was the culmination of this narrative. But the thing is those same conservatives who begged for a CEO President never noticed that they were asking for a dictatorship, just like you say. After 30 years of cognitive dissonance, it's why every conservative either remains a lolbert or becomes a neo-reactionary when they realize that the conservative party is just the liberal party 30 years ago.
>>533716956I just dont think conservatives want what they day they want, like freedom of speech or small government. They just want control , freedom of speech (for things that i agree with) and small government (only for things i like, the rest need heavy regulation or banning).
>>533713048>Dark EnlightenmentIsn't it just a bunch of (((midwits))) who realize that the goyim don't want to obey them as much as before so they want to resort to brute force?
>>533713048>Dark EnlightenmentKike trap to drag the discontent whites into the meat grinder. MAGA 2.0. There is nothing reactionnary about NRx, it's just a radicalization of a system on its last leg.
>>533713048Curtis Yarvin is the most kiked "free thinker" of all time.>>533713491Nick Land as well.
>>533713048>end of the day it just looks like giga kikery where the middle men get replaced by jews and best goys directly.Yeah, pretty much.
>>533713048Because he's a genius regardless of what you think about him. This is clear if you read him, but even if not, he was doing a PhD before he was 20.>>533713407This is not true, just visit his twitter. He is a Zionist yeah, but in the exact definition. That's the extent of it.
Dark enlightenment? Is that like when Vegeta said >I'm pure of heart: pure evil!
I didn't expect the anti christ to be so... reddit?
>>533713048These types don't say anything you can't figure out on your own just thinking and observing. It's sad that anyone would need someone else to deduce how reality operates for them.
>>533713722What’s with your asinine commentary?
>>533713048amusing that right wing intellectuals are bloviating retards (yarvin) or grotesque faggots destined for eternal torture in hell (thiel.)
>>533713048Dark Enlightenment, the Alt-Right, Christian Nationalism, groypers, and MAGA were all ops by Jews to redirect young White men into supporting Republicans, and voting Trump so he could conduct the Iran War. All of it.
>>533715503>He did, and I want to believe he still does. But it's hard to continue to say that when the 'experts' he trusts to negotiate with Iran happen to be his son-in-law. Or when he did nothing after Kirk was killed. Or when anything he does gets stopped by an Obama judge. Or when he seems to care more about appearances than results.You are starting to realize that Trump has always been on Team Jew.
>>533713407he's avoiding it because he's a kike himself and is being promoted to inject globohomo values into dissident circles
>>533715503Trump 2016-17 might have genuinely had some good ideas. But it’s been a rough decade and he’s old and retarded now and surrounded by Zionist shills and retarded yesmen. His assassination attempt seems to have revived a tiny bit of his latent spirituality but it just so happens that he is a disciple of Norman Vincent Peale’s reformed church and follows a broken theology based on a fusion of Calvinism, new age mumbo jumbo, and faux-psychology. He seems to think he can earn his way into heaven through some great noble act like saving Israel from Iran. He’s trying to make his mark on history and with the Power of Positive Thinking he believes that wishing something really hard makes things happen like magic. He’s a senile old man trying to use literal magic to perform some great miracle and make the world love him. He’s a satanist who thinks he’s doing God’s work.
yarvin is legit retarded. his whole shtick is talking down at every system and institution, then when asked what they should be replaced with he says a monarchy where absolute power is consolidated into one person. when you point out that historically that has resulted in much worse average well being, he simply says "well thats like your opinion". much like every retard who thinks they know better than every institution, its all just endless critique while lacking basic pattern recognition.
>>533713048Because it appeals to out of power cucks. His worthless garbage products like urbit are a perfect representation of his moronic and unworkable ideas.
>>533720437>hellLmao, you crossniggers are such retards.
>>533715909I’ve listened to 50+ hours of Yarvin and read most of his blog and not once has VR prison come up. Sounds like you got fixated on some weird tangent that he probably brought up while drunk on some edgelord podcast as a joke. You’re either arguing in bad faith or repeating arguments others have made in bad faith because you don’t follow Yarvin.
>>533721166well he says US tech companies are examples of highly effective monarchies
>>533713407his presupposition that institutions always become left wing over time is flawed. without mass tearing down of institutions, we were able to have much better border security than 6 years ago. institutions can be either left or right. the idea of every institution that resulted in your society being a world super power needing to be hollowed out feels like something a chinese asset would say lol
>>533721166You are retarded
>>533713048It's just an excuse to have dysgenic jews, gays and jeets become the new oligarchy, wiping out whatever's left of the middle class in favor of an unironic caste system, turning those that are already wagies into india-tier untouchables.While his critique of the standard system is sound, that's where the rationality ends and his slop begins. Trump pretty much showcases why you wouldn't want a country to be ""run like business"" because it devolves petty gangster bullshit.
people dont want to hear this, but when he says "youd have as much power in my monarchy as you do right now" is so fucking retarded its insane. i know people like to meme that their vote doesnt matter, but if you show up to every local town hall meeting and get loud, you are no joke, influencing the fuck out of your city. anyone who has been to a town hall knows this. that the 3 loud 60 year old women are basically the ones creating policy in your local area. this scales up to presidential elections, despite your gut reaction to laugh. you have much much MUCH more power than you do in a monarchy wherein you show up to town hall (if there is one) make your voice heard, then they execute you for speaking out against the stateyarvin is retarded and probably a foreign agit prop asset
>>533721285How the fuck do you argue about Yarvin in good faith. Also how retarded are you to listen to 50 hours of his shit.https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/11/patchwork-2-profit-strategies-for-our/>The best humane alternative to genocide I can think of is not to liquidate the wards—either metaphorically or literally—but to virtualize them. A virtualized human is in permanent solitary confinement, waxed like a bee larva into a cell which is sealed except for emergencies. This would drive him insane, except that the cell contains an immersive virtual-reality interface which allows him to experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.
>>533713048Read Nick Land's Dark Enlightenment: https://keithanyan.github.io/TheDarkEnlightenment.epub/TheDarkEnlightenment.pdf>One milestone was the April 2009 discussion hosted at Cato Unbound among libertarian thinkers (including Patri Friedman and Peter Thiel) in which disillusionment with the direction and possibilities of democratic politics was expressed with unusual forthrightness. Thiel summarized the trend bluntly: I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.>Lind and the neo-reactionaries seem to be in broad agreement that democracy is not only (or even) a system, but rather a vector, with an unmistakable direction. Democracy and ‘progressive democracy’ are synonymous, and indistinguishable from the expansion of the state. Whilst extreme right wing governments have momentarily arrested this process, its reversal lies beyond the bounds of democratic possibility. Since winning elections is a matter of vote buying, and society’s informational organs (education and media) are no more resistant to bribery than the electorate, a thrifty politician is simply an incompetent politician, and the democratic variant of Darwinism quickly eliminates such misfits from the gene pool. This is a reality that the left applauds, the establishment right grumpily accepts, and the libertarian right has ineffectively railed against. Increasingly, however, libertarians have ceased to care whether anyone is ‘pay[ing them] attention’ – they have been looking for something else entirely: an exit.>In European classical antiquity, democracy was recognized as a familiar phase of cyclical political development, fundamentally decadent in nature, and preliminary to a slide into tyranny. Today this classical understanding is thoroughly lost, replaced by a global democratic ideology, entirely lacking in critical self-reflection, that is asserted not as a credible social-scientific thesis, or even as a spontaneous popular aspiration, but a religious creed.
>>533721342first of all, they arent. they have boards, stockholders, and are beholden to the government. they are not even close to a monarchy. what monarchy let its advisors vote out the current king? yarvin will play endless tricks to nudge the definition of a king toward a ceo and do this smoke and mirror shit with people but when you think about it for even a second you're like wait this doesnt fucking work at all lolsecond, i do not want tech faggots anywhere near government beaurcracy. we saw how well that worked out with DOGE. if you want to see what yarvin ideas look like in reality, look no further than a retarded technocrat kicking down a door, claiming he will save you 2 trillion dollars because you are all so wasteful and inefficient, then you gets in there (after violating several of your privacies), and goes "oh fuck... this was a tighter ship than i thought... i guess i can cut like.... 1/1000th of what I promised">>533721362not an argument
>>533721353He didn't say that, he said that every institution that wasn't explicitly right wing would drift leftwards. What you're saying validates his thesis. If you enforce a right wing viewpoint in an institution, it stays right wing. When you stop, it drifts leftward. This is because leftism is entropy manifest as a political philosophy.Think about it this way: if you have a nutrition community that enforces values around healthy nutrition, but then you suddenly remove all that enforcement, what would happen is slowly the information and personalities would be more and more relaxed, until you either get a frustrated new crop of enforcers, or it drifts into fat acceptance bullshit. The same thing happens inside your own head when you degenerate too much.
>>533722201>freedom and democracy are not compatible because people disagree with me being a dictator, real freedom is when im a dictatorIs this dude for real? Do they even believe what they say.
>>533721896the fact that you have to reference local elections as proof that democracy works, is an admission that it doesn't work at scale.
>>533722201>This is a reality that the left applauds, the establishment right grumpily acceptsaside from being a jewish puppet and attacking iran, trump was literally representing the will of his electorate (many of them were extremely pro-israel as well, so that was also their will, for fucks sake you voted for the guy who called himself the most pro israel president in his first term. no new wars is not compatible with this and the voter base is dumb for not realizing that but otherwise he was put in place to challenge a heterodoxy aside from israel). he said he'd do tarriffs and he did them, much to the chagrin of the heterodoxy. he said he'd mobilize ICE and he did, much to the chagrin of the heterodoxy. how does land square any of his ideology with this? what land/yarvin really mean by that "single vector" is toward predictability and stability while the person elected represents the current zeitgestit always rubs me the wrong way that this philosophy just ultimately seems to have an issue with relatively predictable and stable representative democracy, a system that resulted in a world super power. why try to make us like some other shithole that isnt a super power? We'd fucking smoke a napoleonic style monarchy, that kind of thing isnt able to keep up with the modern world. they'd get blackmail on the single guy you've consolidated all your power into and then they'd be fucked (kind of the problem with the unified executive stuff trump does which is ironically, very land/yarvin coded)
>>533723035yes political/ideological momentum is real but that doesnt mean tear down all representation, strip people of all freedom, and advocate for monarchies where power is consolidated into one person.>Think about it this way: if you have a nutrition community that enforces values around healthy nutrition, but then you suddenly remove all that enforcement, what would happen is slowly the information and personalities would be more and more relaxed, until you either get a frustrated new crop of enforcers, or it drifts into fat acceptance bullshit.i know you're just using this as an example but im going to extrapolate it to yarvins beliefs. unfortunately, yarvin doesnt agree that some government body with multiple arms and checks and balances should be in charge of researching and informing people on health. he sees that institution and it makes him angry. he sees a body that is wrapped up in its own corrupt and infected with a certain momentum born out of a certain heterodoxy he doesn't like, so therefore it must be dismantled and.... replaced with a singular guy who knows less? replaced with that same institution again? thats another issue i have is that when so much of this philosophy is based around tearing down, the rebuilding is either just the same thing again or measurably worse by consolidating more power into less people. you must understand that under yarvins beliefs, south carolina is correct in rejecting measles vaccines and having their measles outbreaks explode exponentially over the past year (real). extremely basic pattern recognition ALWAYS btfo's this "tear it all down i know better than every institution" stuff. under Yarvin's beliefs, everyone should make themselves as fat as possible as quickly as possible because the doctors telling you its not a good idea are part of some tree with its roots insanely deep in the dna of american history and normalcy
>>533723303it worked at scale too. trump absolutely represented the will of the people. even his war with iran is a logical extension of what you voted for. you voted for a guy who showed he had no regard for process and predictability and thats what you got. you beat the cucked lib proceduralist heterodoxy that had to appeal to gay pussy shit like "congress" and is behold to faggot shit like "the judiciary". next time try a guy who thinks maybe half that stuff while not being a jewish dog and things will likely be better
>>533724324*beholden
NRx daddy Nick Land is currently having a meltie over Catholicism and anti-semitism on xitter btw
>>533713491>both of them are now basically just MAGAtardsMIGAtards and absolute zioboomers.never read nick land "when he was good" but right now he's a fucking retard on twitter.
all this is reskinned bolshevism, which in practice means jewish supremacy and total goy death. it's nothing more than that
>>533724566KWAB
>>533713048>Dark enlightenmentA bunch of mentally retarded socially inept billionaires deciding that actually they are better than everyone else and should rule over the earth with absolute authority and humanism, liberalism, charity, anything of that nature is gay.
>>533724566a couple weeks ago he was obsessed with nick
>>533713048It's Marxism for people dumber than western communist. Cute theory, disastrous in practice.
>>533723161Fascist do not deal in objective reality. The only thing important is accomplishing the goal of implementing an authoritarian state with their leader/party at the head.
>>533724827>It's Marxism for people dumber than western communistYou have no idea what either marxism or the dark enlightenment is.
>>533724724noooo if i call your institutions leftist enough then you should want to hand over all representation to a board room of technocrat jews noooooooo
>>533713048The point is they are reducing the population to 500 million and the WEF has won.https://vocaroo.com/127bdI5inGiqbarbara spectre's big black cockis calling all the shotsseal of solomonWEF have wonerect demented geriatricwarmongering shitstainswe're all equal when our skin's on firethe best laid plans of pedophilesshaped like a menorahWEF have wonfive hundred millionWEF have wonit's not too lateto sacrificekids to bankslike rabbi's on foreskinyou're sucking on the clowns left nutyou'll suck the right one tooprogenitors of third templethink they are the chosen onesyou'll still do NOTHINGfive hundred millionWEF have wonhot rodent manwith a penisin her mindsupports the latest thingfauci sent (fauci sent)a box of beagles (a box of beagles)for the month of june (month of june)with pants unzippedand a truck full of your kidsif leatherface made cinnamon bunsand cut city water pipesthe beginning of sorossparkling orangina of the golden donfive hundred millionWEF have wonWEF have wonWEF have wonWEF have won
>>533713491Nick Land is an attention and approval seeking opportunistic pushover. Pretending to be "weird and radical" is just his business model while he kisses powerful asses.
>>533713048If he’s really an elf, why is he so short?
>>533713048It's an idea that technology will reach a point that nation-states will no longer be the main body politic (similar to how nations replaced kingdoms, which replaced tribes, which replaced clans) and that it will largely be autonomous city-states with robotics and AI.
>>533713048It's just a bunch of midwit jews and fags making up excuses for neoconservatism.
>>533721202i'm just kidding. i'm not a christian. but i still think thiel is a repulsive faggot who deserves extreme physical torture.
>>533718171>He is a Zionist yeah, but in the exact definition. That's the extent of it.Hahahahahahahahaha
>>533713048>"right wings"They are still right winged, they just aren't neoconservative idiots who think democracy shall save the day. It isn't what this country was founded upon, it isn't what will be its supporting backbone in the future; the government will contract private corporations in order to survive.They will not actively oppress you by simply watching you. Y'all should get over it before your pessimism makes all of you explode, faggots. You will thank Palantir in 10 years for protecting your freedom, and realize how hysteric you were for thinking it does the opposite just because le jews against tradcaths and literally 1984. It's more paranoid-schizophrenic than Nick Land, who is just a schizophrenic.
>>533721285Yarvin is a kike so pretending that his ideas and motivations aren't primarily focused on jewish supremacy is bad faith
>>533713048The point of it is to tell people that never grew out of their edgy teenager phase that they’re right about everything and that everyone else is wrong. It’s the infantilization of philosophy.
>>533723303tsmt
Remember back before Yarvin posted this and everyone realized he was just another jew?
