Was Jesus Jewish?
No
>>533734256demoralization shill
>>533734256Jesus was Christianjudaism was established after Christ
>>533734256Yes he was. He followed Jewish tradition and laws. Christianity is in fact a reform or reinterpretation of Judaism.
It depends on what you mean by jew. Jews named themself after the kingdom of judah. It happened well after abraham or even israel. The god of abraham and Jesus are the same. Jesus was lecturing the pharisees constantly, which is why they chose to kill him. From a modern perspective what you consider a jew is basically someone who twists and misinterprets the teachings of the old testament in a self serving way while Jesus taught his disciples the actual meaning of the lessons.
>>533734256No, he was a Galilean.
>>533734672Bruh... no. Jewish law already existed. Jesus was in fact criticizing it at the time. He was telling other Jews their laws and ways were against the original intent of God.
>>533734366>judaism was established after Christuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh>John 19:19>Pilate wrote a sign and put it on the cross. He wrote, `Jesus from Nazareth, the King of the Jews.'I feel like I'm the only person here that's ever actually been to Bible study and not this newfangled mysticism that it's become.
>>533734366Christian is a race?
>>533734256Of course he was. The Jews accused him of being a magician who performed incredible feats because he had learnt magic in Egypt.
>>533734256He never existed
>>533734256this is a 1pbtid spam thread
>>533734287
>>533735434Greek source.In *Contra Celsum* 1.28, Celsus states that Jesus went to Egypt, acquired ‘powers’ there, and then used them to present himself in a grandiose manner.Jewish source.Talmud Bavli, Sanhedrin 43a: presents Jesus of Nazareth as someone condemned for sorcery and for leading Israel astray.Talmud Bavli, Sotah 47a (and parallel in Sanhedrin 107b): states that Jesus of Nazareth practised magic and led others into error.Talmud Bavli, Shabbat 104b: in a baraita attributed to Rabbi Eliezer, there is the story of ben Stada bringing spells from Egypt ‘engraved on his skin’. Many scholars link this ben Stada/ben Pandera to traditions about Jesus, but this is a matter of debate.Toledot Yeshu (a much later medieval Jewish text): portrays Jesus as a magician/seducer and attributes his deeds to magical formulas, not to divinity.Essentially, for the Jews, Jesus was a Jew who used magic and knowledge acquired in Egypt to deceive the Jews into believing that he was the Messiah
>>533734366I don't think he is asking about his religion mate
>>533734715So the galileans rejected him? have you ever read the bible?
>>533734256He was the first real jew in centuries and tried to save those who had gone astray.He succeeded with many, and even ended up saving many of the goyim, but there were some who refused him and instead doubled down on worshipping Satan, damning their souls utterly.This latter group is known as "jews" today, and Jesus obviously isn't one of them - in fact he is the exact opposite of them.
>>533736100What race where these people?
>>533734973The word "jew" didn't even exist when the Bible was written.
>>533736468neither did the word "bread" so I guess we may never know what did jesus eat back then>amerimutt intellectuals
>>533736378Which ones? Kinda hard to say given it was 2000+ years ago and the Levant has always been a multi-racial crossroads between Africa, Arabia, Asia-Minor and Eurasia inhabited by groups related to Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Arabs and proto-Greek people, who all controlled parts of the area at various tiimes in antiquity; and there never really was a long-lasting and cohesive empire ruling the region that would lead to the formation of a particular race; Semitic for instance is mainly a language and cultural group, not a race; but it is fair enough to treat it as a race, and as such they could be called Semites. In reality the region was split between semi-isolated tribal groups for most of that period, with Judeans, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Syrians and Samaritans all being individual populations, even Galileans, and telling them apart is difficult 2000 years later.With modern "jews" this problem is even worse.>what race are they?Either mutts or multiple races depending on where they have spent the last 2000 years, as some have lived in Babylon, some in Northern Africa and some in Eurasia and mixed with the populations there. Look at the population of Israeli jews, for instance.>there are extremely drastic differences in jews' appearanceFrom hardcore desert Arab looking people, to more Persian types, to white European looking people.
>>533736468Holy fuck christcucks are retarded
>>533736820They had bread, but Jesus broke it.>ba dum tish
>>533734256NO.
>>533734256TOTAL KIKE DEATH
>>533737013Kill yourself pajeet scum
He was born to two Jewish parents. His teachings are taken directly from the Torah. Yes. He was a Jewish heretic.
>>533737003Pretty easy if you read the bible retard, jesus is referred to as a jew, his apostles as jews, his family have their jewish genealogy listed in depth, they practiced jewish customs, burial/birth ect, Jesus was a rabbi, taught in synagogues, was circumcised, celebrated jewish passover...Yeah really hard huh? maybe he was Japanese?Moron
>>533737117He doesn't know
He was a second temple Jew. Rabbinical Judaism wasn't a thing until the second temple fell, forcing Christ denying Jews into a corner.
>>533734256Couldn't have been a jew because judaism came after Christianity and is a reactionary movement based on the rejection of Christ.
>>533737182Ah yes, Jesus rejected Jesus as the Messiah and started worshipping Satan? My bad.
>>533737235Kill yourself jeet
>>533734256Shalom kike>>533734469found the person that never read a single book their entire adulthood parroting whatever someone said on social media
>>533734973First of all, that was used as an insult, since they denied he was the messiah. Secondly, the word jew in that sentence doesn't refer to jews in the modern sense, it refers to people descended from judah
>>533736820Non sequitur
Christianity was a considered a Jewish sect for the first hundred years or so. Jesus, mark, Mathew, Luke, john etc etc all considered themselves Jewish. The first 3-400 tears 0f of Christianity was a fascinating time period.
>>533734469You demon. Jesus Christ our Lord is, was, and will be the only Church of God, our Father and Holy Spirit. Anyone else is and was pagan. (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is Jesus Christ). Jesus is King, Lord and God of all.
>>533737712No, that's what your bibull says dummy
>>533734973The plaque read INRI>Iesus Nazarenus, Rex IudaeorumIesus the Nazarene, King of the Iudeanswith Iudea being a location.
>>533737970Worshiping 3 gods is pagan dummy
>>533737956That's because Christianity is real judaism and modern jews are the synagogue of Satan. Hope this helps
He was Aryan aka European aka white. The Jews of today are race mixed mongrels. The Jews of biblical times were the ancestors of the white race.He wasn’t Jewish
>>533737784id autem sequitur ex quibus bestia amerdicana autumavit, lingua enim anglica olim non extabat, quod non obstat quin res possimus describere nihilo minus
>>533737639>Couldn't have been a jew because judaism came after Christianity and is a reactionary movement based on the rejection of Christ.the jews wrote your scriptures just like all first christians were jews, egg/chicken question solved.you are a spritual jew.
>>533738210he was a jew
>>533734256Nope.This was very succinctly debunked in this video. Adam Green is terrified to debate this guy, now we know why.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ESNI-FvFyQ
it's really fucking simpleJesus Christ was not of the Idumaean tribe (Edomites). King Herod and the Pharisees were Edomites.how do we know it was the Edomites that wrote the Talmud?because they wrote it in Aramaic.
>>533738001says the dummy... once again you're trying to share an opinion which isn't even yours>>533738373> duuuur i'm going to do some presentism> words from today mean words from the past> corrupted translation mean truth!! duuurfucking retard
>>533734256>Salvation is from the JewsJesus (John 4:22)So yes
>>533738373Jews lie about everything but you believe them when they say they wrote the Old Testament? I remember when I watched Adam Green once upon a time…
>>533738321Those weren't jews, they were proto-Christians.
>>533734256no but even if he was we still need goycattle to abide by the torah's 10 commandments or else we'll all die by law of the jungle. either way Christ is King
>>533738439>Salvation is from the Jewswhat does it say in Greek?
>>533738475>Those weren't jews, they were proto-Christiansjews who practised jewish traditions.
>>533738518> ὑμεῖς προσκυνεῖτε ὃ οὐκ οἴδατε·(You worship what you do not know)> ἡμεῖς προσκυνοῦμεν ὃ οἴδαμεν,(we worship what we know)> ὅτι ἡ σωτηρία ἐκ τῶν Ἰουδαίων ἐστίν.(because salvation is from the Jews)
>>533738321Say there's two guys drowning in the sea, you and some contrarian faggot.Suddenly Jesus comes walking over the water and offers to pull you out.The contrarian faggot refuses, but you agree, and so Jesus lifts you from the water.Are you still drowning? Was Jesus drowning?
>>533734256Jews from then are not Rabbinical Jews. People need to learn that Rabbinical Jews are Pharisees, literally the people Jesus clashed with.
>>533738610Nope. Judaism is fundamentally the rejection of Christ. It's impossible for a religion based on rejecting Jesus to exist before Jesus.The word "Jew" didn't even exist before the 12th century.
>>533738718i can swim, you retarded chrigger
>>533738013what a dishonest pseudo-kike
>>533738790>Judaism is fundamentally the rejection of Christ.no such thing, lying just like jews.
>>533738711>Ἰουδαίων>Ioudaíon>of JudeansAnd why is it written in Greek? I thought jews spoke/wrote Hebrew?
>>533734256Yes
The whole "Jewishness of Jesus" thing has been forced on everyone since WW2. It has gone so far that some are arguing that even Paul was just a standard Jew with no plans to break away. Christianity was traditionally a synthesis of Hellenized Judaism and paganism. The ethnicity of Jesus was mostly irrelevant.
>>533738814>jew is a word they invented in the Middle Ages to refer to JudeansVery insightful, thanks for the backup.
>>533738966The meaning is the same, retard.
>>533738944there was never at any point any doubt in thousands of years that jesus and the apostles were ethnic jews of the same race as those who killed him, this idea exists only among online larping kids who have built a pseudo religious-political identity around the crusader aesthetic from videogames and who would get kicked out of any christian organization with more than 20 IRL members
>>533738881judeans who were jews, practising jewish traditions and rituals.
>>533734256If you're jewish, then hes a blasphemous jew. If you're a christian, he is the son of god, or the human manifestation of god himself. One would not call him a jew because he does not follow the jewish faith, as per the jews themselves who accuse his teachings as being blasphemous and not in adherence with the jewish faith.
>>533738966>the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate, "Do not write, ‘The King of the Jews,’ but, ‘He said, "I am the King of the Jews">Pilate answered, "What I have written, I have written"seethe retard
>>533739276hes not the son of a god, hes the son of jewish parents.> Yeshua ben YosefGalilee Judea (Jewish area of Levant)Galilee and Judea are two different regions.Born in Bethlehem (Judea) and raised in Nazareth (Galilee), both in the Jewish region of the Levant.Born to a Jewish womanIn accordance with Jewish custom, he was circumcised on the eighth day> (Luke 2:21)He observed Jewish festivals like Passover> (Luke 22:1–15)And Hanukkah> (John 10:22)He participated in synagogue worship and Temple rituals> (Luke 4:16; Matthew 21:12–17).He came to fulfill the Jewish lawDo not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.> Matthew 5:17:He is prophesied to return to destroy the nations (goyim) with a sword from his mouth (gospel of Christianity)"Sword" is "Word of God" (ie. Demonizing Germanic and Roman pagans & its societal cohesion, leaders and army)he was called "Rabbi" during his ministry> (e.g., John 1:38)> The woman at the well (John 4:7–26) was Samaritan, not a Gentile.The Samaritan woman at the well recognized Jesus as a Jew> (John 4:9)indicating his public Jewish identity.His disciples and close followers were all Jewish, and he frequently quoted from the Hebrew Scriptures in his teachings.yeshua arose from Judah> (Hebrews 7:14).He came to His own [the Jews], and His own did not receive Him> (John 1:11)The Samaritan woman at the well explicitly identified him as a Jew> (John 4:9)Pontius Pilate referred to him as King of the Jews> (John 18:39; 19:19)
>>533734256He's a fictitious character of ancient sand nigger mythology. Who gives a shit?
>>533739207That is obvious. The point is that it wasn't a big deal. The average Christian couldn't have cared less about it. It is only after WW2 that it was an obsession which filtered down to the public. Before WW2 it was extremely common among academics to see Christianity as a mystery religion.
>>533739495DEEE JAAYYY KHALEEEEEDDD
>>533734256>Was Jesus Jewish?Jewish wasn't a term at his time. Pharisee was the term at the time. The very group he condemned. Go to wokepedia and lookup Pharisee.. follow the link to Rabinic Judaism.TLDR: Jesus wasn't a Pharisee
>1 post by this ID>qiestionthread>memeflag
>>533734256>finally reconnectedThe only reconnection they are interested in is us as their devoted slaves.
>>533739856>Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach"only because Jesus thought the Pharisees didn't practice what they preached
>>533734256>1pbtid>memeflag
>>533739943Read what you wrote again meme flag
>>533734256He's a big guy>>533735617>words words wordsThe left can't meme>>533739472>>533739495>posting that pictureHow's the weather in tel aviv?
>>533734469Shalom, narigudo.
>>533740148>>posting that picture>How's the weather in tel aviv?idk, you tell me? youre the guys pretending that jews are white.soon valborg in sweden, so its still a litle chilly at night.
>>533739123No, not really. It refers to people living in or originating from Judea, an ethnic and cultural identity, not a religious group specifically, all the more so as there were multiple schools and sects of the hebrew faith.Case in point: ancient "jews" did not call their religious identity "Jewish" "Judaism" "Judean" or anything of that sort; it refers to where some of them lived.This is also why there's literally no reason to call Christians "jews", since they stopped originating in Judea pretty quickly.>>533739209>jewish traditions and ritualsThat's not what those "jews" called it. It's like calling your religion Swedish - even if you are an atheist or a muslim or a homo.
>>533734256Jesus was an opponent of rabbinical Judaism and the Pharisees which is what contemporarily the word Jew defines. During his time the Pharisees would enforce their Talmud (known as the tradition of the elders back then) and it caused controversy. John the Baptist referring to them as a den of vipers and their cartoonishly evil behavior was written about in a way that it's like you're supposed to understand but there is barely any context, like much of the Bible. So, for context there's other contemporary work that defined the state of Jerusalem in the time of Christ.
>>533739282>I don't know how translations workmind blownWhat language were they speaking anyway? Did Pilate know Aramaic? Science says no.>in other words the entire exchange likely didn't happen, or through an interpreter>then they translated the words of the interpreter a second time>and then one thousand years later they translated it incorrectly into a third language with made up bullshit words
>>533740358>That's not what those "jews" called it. It's like calling your religion Swedish - even if you are an atheist or a muslim or a homo.no, its not.the jews had their own religion and practised their jewish rituals and seasonal traditions just like they always have.while most of it is stolen from persia and egypt as they were bullied all over the middle east.no different than how christians stole everything from us, now we take it all back.youre getting the fuck back to the middle east, you filthy fucking subhuman jew worshipper.
>>533734256Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, a judeo-masonic concoction, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E
>>533740571>he has to deny the factuality of the gospels just to claim jesus isn't a jewskekekek just drop religion entirely if that's what you think
>>533734256I can't find this book anywhere. Not on Libgen, not on Anna's, not on archive.org. Anyone got this? I collect every book I see on /pol/ and it'll go in the "jews co-opting christianity" section.
>>533740582>the jews had their own religion and practised their jewish rituals and seasonal traditions just like they always have.No, they did not. Simple as that. They also practiced their canaanite rituals, galilean rituals, and whatever the fuck, depending on where they lived.Time to remind you that this isn't even where the religion originated. Supposedly they were slaves in Egypt, and only then led to the promised land.>in other words their religion isn't Judean>and consequently they didn't call it JudeanTime to call them egys instead.>it's da egyyyys>and then Jesus showed up and told them to do it differently>one particular elite subgroup didn't like that and rejected and killed him>then the Romans absolutely wiped them out>then centuries later a couple survivors decide to larp as these extinct Jesus-killers
>>533734256He was a rabbi>And Jesus turned and saw them following, and *said to them, “Wha.t do you seek?” They said to him rabbi where are You staying?”john 1:38
>>533740698>he has to deny the factuality of the gospelsNo, I don't have to do that at all, for any reason.>but I will do it anywayBecause it's full of shit, theologically speaking.
>>533740651God 1000 CEOdin 700-1000 CEÓðinn 200-1000 CEGapt 551 CEGaut 200 BCE-551 CEō to au / WauWaudnaZ/WodinaZ 500 BCE-200 CEWōdanaz - Saxons, Franks & etc - Descendants of the old gods(Wōdanaz - Gautaz = "fathers" “pourer”)Godan = Lombard, timely references ? Also Godin(Still referencing Odin)Tīwaz 1000 BCE-500 BCE(Germanic war god)TiwaZ(germanic) and TheoS(Greek)youre speaking a germanic language, not heebshit monkey talk.
>>533740524How can a rabbi oppose rabbinical Judaism it’s kind of an oxymoron isn’t it?> Peter *said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here; let us make three tabernacles, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for ElijahMark 9:5
>>533740981>No, they did not. Simple as that. They also practiced their canaanite rituals,same people, retard.canaanites are jews and arabs, middle eastern donkey fuckers
>>533734256Are the people who say they are Jewish when e God of Moses divorced them for denying Christ the filfillment of their own prophets? Are they still Jewish if the first written Torah scoll was edited to take out the references to Christ?The Old testament is edited to convince people they were ina relationship, when its clear the events in 70 ad and the amount temple funds to commit crimes against their own and roman laws?A human slaughter on passover, a man at committed no crimes and temple andntaxpayer money put to death, so much corruption?Christs church became the promised bride, and the result is that the divorced nation still acts like the marriage is solvent. Thw altar was destoyes and th Holye Spirit was given to the apostles who protected the new covenent against Heresies and illogical argumets that lead to insanity like unconstitutional wars that bankrupt the nation tricked into going tonwar with the world and removing all self agency. The Pentagon ia unable to say to Socilaism and Zionism is just the justified means to systematocndestruction of people who oppose those the God of Abraham and Adam divorced for these very same types of actions.Since the pentagon is satanic it will exploit any means necessary to cause as much debt and suffering and death as possible. Public Policy does not influce decisions of the Pentagon.Wr the people are cattle, just as they are. The NCOs and civilians arr capable of self agency and chosing Christ instead on insanity and torture from the COsWe must pray for the Pentagon to be exorcised of its demons because they are unable to and its the only way to save them.They cannpt save the selves. He Pentagon and US government and the Qest hates them. When you pray for each other Gods grace might find the 20 or 5 or 1 good soldier to not only stave off the upcoming avoidable wars, but maybe one heart softens and stops the others, sacrificng himself for the people, for once in his entire career.
>>533741002>They said to him rabbi where are You staying?”In think you meant "Hey rabbi, whatcha doing?"
Yes Jesus was Jewish, even Nick Fuentes agrees that he was. But Jesus had to come as a Jew to show the world that they rejected God and the New Covenant is now for anyone, no matter the race, not just the Jews.I love Christ, I love Western Civilization that brought us Christ and I am doing what I can to bring Christ to everyone around me. >Pic is my new based Icon.
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>>533741164Well yeah, in a manner of speaking, and in this way were are getting closer to the truth, that in effects "jews" is a misnomer or carries a different meaning from the original term Judean, which in itself was a foreign label to people from the region of Iudea, and not anything close to a proper term for or name of their religion or race.Meaning on the most basic level we can conclude:>Jesus was not a Judean but a Galilean>and his faith was not Judaism and wasn't called Judaism>but he did indeed practice some form of the typical religion centered on the Second Temple in Jurusalem, Judea>in common with the majority of Judeans, Galileans, Canaanites, a couple of Greeks and others>except that he put a different spin on it, which some liked and some didn't
>>533734256faggits can seethe all they likeJesus was Christian. He was the first Christian.if you can't handle that suck a dick
>>533741698> semanticscanaanites rebranded as jews and arabs, a group prone to conflict and failing ecology brought them to blame gods.To start over to have something new to blame due to a devoid of consequence analysis as they blame everyone but themselves.they were jews, practised jewish traidtions and ritauls and thats final.even your jewish bible tells us about this.Enough with your continous backpedaling in a fucking circle like a god damn retard suffering from cognitive dissonance
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>>533741002>>And Jesus turned and saw them following, and *said to them, “Wha.t do you seek?” They said to him rabbi where are You staying?”Mistranslation. The idea of "rabbis" didn't even exist 2000 years ago. It was a post-title honorific given to kikes who study at the jew-madrassa all their life. Then some clever leftoid faggot pastor somewhere comes along and translates something that John probably meant as "teacher" into rabbi. Then stupid jew-niggers like you say "oh wow, he was a rabbit too just like Mr. Shekelstein!" because you hate yourself and you hate white people.
>>533742058it's literally impossible to tell if this is satire or not, this feces colored monkey isn't even aware rabbi is in the original Greek text
>>533742190His skin is color of poop?
>>533742190>it's literally impossible to tell if this is satire or not, this feces colored monkey isn't even aware rabbi is in the original Greek textWritten in the 5 latin alphabet letters you're spelling it with? Really? No, dumbass, there's another word, with Greek letters in the Koene Greek. And while it is often translated as "rabbi", that doesn't capture the meaning correctly.>>533742276>His skin is color of poop?I have platinum blond eyebrows, red hair, and the only part of my skin that's not pale white are a few freckles on my shoulders. The Italy nigger above, though, ask him what the color of his skin is.
>>533742190But um ... uh ackshuallay it means teacher and his circumcision was an unfortunate accident, nothing to do with judaism!!!
>>533742552>the excrement colored detroitian baboon isn't aware you can spell the same thing in different alphabetsholy shit, mind y'all this is the least braindead christian chimp in 2026
>>533734715Galileans where Jews tho and also that Made him a Palestinian
>>533734256>Was Jesus Jewish?Jesus is God. So yes, King of the universe. King of Israel. King of all of the Jews.
>>533741698>>533741948This is some pilpul shit, but I had to do some research myself.The following appears to be the truth:>the term "jew" originally meant Judean and derives from that>Judean is exclusively a term for people from Judea>Jesus wasn't a Judean>Judea in turn derives from the Kingdom of Judah (the other being Israel)>this in turn derives from the Tribe of Judah, the largest of the 12 Tribes>the most plausible authentic term for the religion 1-2 centuries after the Babylonian exile, before which it was polytheistic, is People of the Torah, or Followers of the Law>this is the faith Jesus shared, but which no longer exists since the destruction of the Second Temple>Jesus turned this religion into Christianity>while jews emulated the practically extinct Pharisees who were his enemy
>>533741130Matthew 23:2-10 (KJV) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
>>533742058>Then some clever leftoid faggot pastor somewhere comes along and translates something that John probably meant as "teacher" into rabbi.Oh shit there it is already lmao. Now explain what he was doing at the temple of Jerusalem if he had absolutely nothing to do with judaism
>>533742861jesus was literally a judaean even if you pilpul this hard, bethlehem was inside judaea and he was a descendant of judahin any case it's entirely a moot point, "jew" is an exonym, any penis mutilating follower of moses has been know generically as "judaean" for 2000+ years even before the religion was born, we don't call them judaean because we give a shit about the internal lore, it's an exonym, like "German"
>>533738881Gospels were written 200 years after Christ by roman neo-platonic philosophersThe old testament survived because it had been translated in Greek during the Hellenistic period and the oldest copy we have is in Greek not Aramaic
>>533743090That's an oxymoron, since Judean refers to identity, and your argument implies some kind of birthright citizenship, which did not exist.His parents were ethnically and culturally Galilean, and so was he, just happened to pop out of the womb in Judea; which is a helpful cope however, if he wants to claim to be the Messiah.Judeans called him a Galilean (= hillbilly), and so did everybody else. I am optimistic they knew better than you.>is the cat born in the chicken coop a chicken?>it's entirely a moot point, "jew" is an exonymYes, this is definitely important.Like I said, he shared the penis cutting religion of the "People of the Torah" in fashion at the time, centered on Jerusalem.But modern jews are no more those "People of the Torah" than Christians are. Neither is the same religion, especially since the Pharisees also were just a small and fairly recent elite subgroup, that the later jews emulated, albeit in a drastically altered form.
>>533743455>AramaicAnd this is an important point, too. It was never truly written in the language of Torah, Hebrew, but in Aramaic, the common regional lingua franca.Maybe someone did a Hebrew translation, but if so no trace of it survived, while there is plenty of proof for Aramaic.
>>533743857dead sea scrolls were written in Hebrew and they predate the Greek translation
>>533734256He believed and never sinned, this isn’t religion it’s worship and the point is actually condemning religion and secularism because they’re dialectically linked to morality which because man knows good and evil, neither religion nor government have anything to do with the gospel and are satanic counterfeits of Godly behavior. If there is no sin, there’s no need for law, if there is no sin, there’s no need for religion If there is no sin, there is no need for governmentIt’s tied to morality, which is functioning as a moral dialectic because it mixes good with evil. It enables evil to pretend to be good, which is precisely why the book tells you that unless you believe Jesus did it for you, you will fall for the dialectic thinking the false Christ is God, as he directs you to worship him through religion. This is why you keep seeing ’judeo-Christian’. It’s gaslighting you using the wisdom of man, which is good and evil. So it’s just evil playing off of what man has already made knowing good and evil. And this is why God calls the wisdom of man foolish, because the wisdom of man cannot discern spiritually, it uses externalities and observations that Satan can counterfeit, rather than relying on the simplicity of the gospel. Ephesians 2:81 Corinthians 15 1-4. If Jesus did it for you, you don’t have to do anything, and you know anyone telling you you do, is under religion and will be deceived, the prophetic events that you can see with your eye, are due to Satan using religion to deceive people into thinking that the false Christs arrival is the legit one. Enshittification manipulates man’s knowledge of good into deploying government and religion to fix the problem, in reality all this is doing is building Satan’s systems for him.
>>533734256jesus's Y chromosome comes from the fatherand he wasn't a talmudic kabbalist either (books which weren't written until 600 years after Christ)>"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then [the jews] took up stones to [kill] Him [...]"- John 48-49he's not "a jew", he's god
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>>533739472Lentulus, the Governor of the Jerusalemites to the Roman Senate and People, greetings. There has appeared in our times, and there still lives, a man of great power, called Jesus Christ. The people call him prophet of truth; his disciples, son of God. He raises the dead, and heals infirmities. He is a man of medium size; he has a venerable aspect, and his beholders can both fear and love him. His hair is of the colour of the ripe hazel-nut, straight down to the ears, but below the ears wavy and curled, with a bluish and bright reflection, flowing over his shoulders. It is parted in two on the top of the head, after the pattern of the Nazarenes. His brow is smooth and very cheerful with a face without wrinkle or spot, embellished by a slightly reddish complexion. His nose and mouth are faultless. His beard is abundant, of the colour of his hair, not long, but divided at the chin. His aspect is simple and mature, his eyes are changeable and bright. He is terrible in his reprimands, sweet and amiable in his admonitions, cheerful without loss of gravity. He was never known to laugh, but often to weep. His stature is straight, his hands and arms beautiful to behold. His conversation is grave, infrequent, and modest. He is the most beautiful among the children of men.- Letter of Publius Lentullus to Rome
>>533739472A young man, it was said, appeared in Galiee preaching with a noble unction a new law in the name of God who had sent him. At first I was apprehensive that his design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews. One day in passing by the place of Siloe, where there was a great concourse of people, I observed in the midst of the group a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected, so great was the difference between him and those listening to him. His golden-colored hair and beard gave him the appearance of a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about thirty years old. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a Contrast between him and his hearers, with their black beards and tawny completion! - Letter of Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caeser
>>533734256only on his mother's side
>>533734287Correct. He was judean, otherwise known as dweller of Judah and line of Judah. Jew and Jewish are two different things when referring to history. Jew as used in the Bible refers to the race that practiced the old covenant, not judaism. Jewish are those who practice judaism which was formed 100 years after Christ as a rejection of him. Any kike that says Jesus is just like them is a subversive servant of the synagogue of satan.
Titus did nothing wrong.
He was the last noble JewEvery (((jew))) afterwards rejected Him
>>533738518Even the OG greek bible admits jesus was a rabbi, you coping retard
>>533738212and the word 'jew' was not used to describe the same thing you think it is describing retard
>>533737712You found yourself? Took you how long? Because you don't need to read much about the bible to figure Jesus was Jewish and not just religiously.
>>533740165I'm not religious at all macaco.
>>533747374Why are you idiots coping so much? He was considered a rabbi, followed Jewish law, studied Judaism of the time, criticized elite Jews for not following God teaching enough, tried to reform Judaism ways, was considered a messiah by his followers, and was called king of the Jews by Romans, and yet you're insisting he was not Jewish. What a dumb take. It's very obvious he was Jewish regardless if it's a different version than the modern one.> That's not a dog, it's a German Shepard
>>533734256Are you?
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>>533748204Stupid brown, I'm not saying he wasn't a jew, just that he wasn't jewish. There is a wide difference The old covenant was fulfilled in him. Kikes don't follow the old covenant, but a subversion of it. Their Messiah already came. Also he's God, so.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rCwPBGlYIcg
>>533734256Ever heard of word concept fallacies?Rabbinic Judaism didn't exist back then, neither did modern Jewish race - both have formed in diaspora.Closest thing religiously and ethnically we have today to 1st century Jew is an Aramaic Christian Palestinian.That's what Jesus was.
>>533749303That's just dumb cope. Yes Judaism was reformed and so were all other religions. How do you expect Jesus to follow the future reformed Judaism? It didn't even exist. It's just insane you think this is a valid argument.
>>533734287Correct. If by "Jewish" you mean the same thing that people always mean when they use the word "Jewish" today, then no, Christ was not Jewish, because "Jews" as we know them literally did not exist until long after Christ's earthly life.
>>533749520Wrong and wrong. Jewish ethnics did exist and Romans in particular made sure they knew, and Jesus was considered a Rabbi. It doesn't even mean much, it just means he studied the religion in a religious school. it's a diploma if you will.
>>533734256He followed OT law (because He is God and wrote them) but genetically not a Jew. He was a Nazarene.>Lamentations 4:7 describes the former splendor of Jerusalem's leaders (Nazirites or princes) before the Babylonian destruction. They were "purer than snow" and "whiter than milk," with radiant, healthy complexions, in stark contrast to their later emaciated, dark, and unrecognizable state due to famine.
>>533742625>>the excrement colored detroitian baboon isn't aware you can spell the same thing in different alphabetsAnd you can spell the two different words the same, dumbass. I know you're too busy licking jew assholes to notice, but there is such a thing as nuance.
>>533748204When people talk about Christ being Jewish, they imply continuity of Jewish identity over time, which is untrue. Modern Judaism and Jews have little in common with 1st century Judea.Language, culture, religion and racial composition are all completely different.
>>533742990>Oh shit there it is already lmao. Now explain what he was doing at the temple of Jerusalem if he had absolutely nothing to do with judaismAs it turns out, he was busy trying to teach jews not to be jews. But even as the son of a god, that was impossible... the jews are irredeemable. Whatever he was selling, they were uninterested, probably not enough rape-cannibalistic-coprophagia for jewish sensibilities.
Wazz jewzish jeeusss?
>>533749659What part of "word concept fallacy" did you not understand? The word "jew" today does not denote what it did in the 1st century. Today's Jewry is based on Babylonian Talmud (which didn't exist in times of Christ) and racially distinct converts into Judaism, like European Askenazim. The remnants of OG Jews are insular Aramaic Christian communities in Palestine and Syria.
the most jewish man to never live. and thats quite an achievement, didnt david hunt down phillistines and pull down their pants to steal their foreskins so he could win the hand of king shlomo's daughter?
>>533749758>>533749945I get your point but it's really silly to think Jesus followed modern Judaism when it's obvious it was reformed. Jews used to make sacrifices in a temple, and of course that doesn't exist today. However if we're going by that logic today's Christians aren't following the original teachings of Jesus either, because Christianity was also heavily reformed.
>>533749573I don't expect him. That's the whole point. They formed it because they fucking hated him. Their temple was destroyed as promised and they are still today a godless, cursed people. The rightous and real God's chosen are the Christ believers.
>>533749964nice try, kike.OG Israelites are not today's jews.Bringing Christ down to just some slimy jew who isn't the resurrected Son of God is blasphemy. God will not be mocked.
>>533750127Well ok if that's your belief you are indeed a Christian. That was the whole point of Jesus.
>>533750189Christ be with you too, Portugal.
>>533750044While that is true for most Christian denominations, Orthodox Christianity does follow the patristic teachings and thus is the closest modern thing we have to 1st century Church, which itself is continuation of the Temple Judaism (which modern Judaism is not). They are the only remaining group who still use Aramaic, the language Christ spoke.
>>533734256Not according to Orthodox Jews
>>533735884He was a Hebrew of the tribe of Benjamin.
>>533734256I'm pretty sure they murdered him for being a heretic so no.
>>533734256Depends on how you define "Jewish".But according to Rabbinic Judaism tradition, he wasn't Jewish either ethnically (being a son of Roman soldier) or religiously (since he was an apostate and arch heretic).
According to Jewish holy books:- Jesus mother was a Galilean whore.- Jesus father was a Roman soldier named Pantera.So by Jewish account, Galilean and Roman. Not Judean. Not Hebrew. Not Edomite, Canaanite, not Nabatean, not Egyptian, etc. Galilean & Roman.On the other hand; According to Christian and Muslim holy books:- Jesus/Isa blessed virgin mother Mary/Maryam/Miriam, was a Galilean, who lived a truly exceptional life, and had a miraculous birth.- Jesus/Isa father was Divine, and the birth was a miracle.So again, Galilean, with no earthly father, of Roman, Judean, Hebrew, Edomite, or any other tribe on earth.So by all accounts in the region, at the time, matrilineally, we know he was Galilean. Patrilineally, there is some discrepancy, but no doubt he wasn’t Judean or Hebrew.
The Jewish-funded Cyrus Ignus SCOFIELD Bible certainly deserves a large share of the blame. The Jewish-owned media repeating that lie endlessly also deserving of endless blame. But what else? Perhaps something even older is also to blame ?Well, Jesus certainly spent time preaching to the Judeans, trying to give them every opportunity to return to God, instead of abandoning God, in favor of their rabbinic system, in which Rabbinical interpretation took legal and spiritual precedent over God’s law as it was written. So spending so much time trying to save them, living amongst them, etc … can be confusing to many, especially when the maps and translations of various regions in the Levantine region vary in quality and descriptiveness, and borders vary to some degree throughout centuries prior to and after Christ’s lifetime. But those maps and regions were fairly clearly defined during his lifetime …. So what else ?Well, we have the Jewish mocking of him on the cross, as he hang there with a crown of thorns on his head, as “his crown”, and tattered blood soaked garments being “his kingly robes”. The common deed in his bloody hand, mocking him as “his scepter” … things like these used as ways to mock his supposed status as “king of the Jews”. They really were being cruel in their mockery of such a title …What else ? While his early miracles and teachings were largely in Galilee, he then traveled south to Samaria, and preached there as well, before heading south yet again to Judea.What else can clarify such a claim either way ? Well, the crowd of judeans he was speaking to in another key passage, accused him of “being a demon from Samaria” … Samaria being the region geographically between the southern Judea, and the northern Galilee … so this is again an example of the judeans/ Pharisees clearly not claiming him as a judean, but as an “other”
>>533734256Thought those Hebrew priests wore purple before the rabbi-llion. It was still insulting to Jesus to wear the priestly/kingly robe.
>>533750815>shaloming shills silenced. CIK
>>533734256He lived in Galilee, not Judea, where Jews lived, so no. He was Galilean like the other people who lived in Galilee. >>533738518I agree, salvation from the Jews is exactly what we need and I think this would be attained from glassing Israel
Jesus was indeed Jewish, but only ethnically (which the modern day state of Israel is not, they are closer to edomites than anything else ironically). Christianity and Judaism share nothing in common and the religion of Judaism is a anti-christ religion. The only people who seriously buck at the idea that Jesus is ethnically a Jew are those who want him to be white to fit their own ideological head cannon. This is no different than the retarded nigger-hebrew Israelites.The Bible (which is God's Word LITERALLY, given to us via God using the prophets and apostoles to write it down, and the final authority on Christianity) is very clear that it is neither Jew nor Greek and that salvation is open to all. Christianity doesn't care about race in this context (or most contexts), nor does it care about the modern day state of Israel.
>>533750148name a more jewish group than jews
>>533751067CHRIST IS KING.The covenant was broken almost 2k years ago. A hateful, spiteful, destructive people, who “are contrary to all men” are harming the entire world, in their pigheaded desire to return to their supposed glory days, of Bronze Age sacrifices to ancient demigods, in Judea.Need we remind these sick sick people, that as recently as the 19th century, the majority of their people were living in shtetl’s and rural ghettos in Eastern Europe and Russia, holding close to such insane voodoo, 3rd world tier medicinal traditions like eating “shade-dried-feces” for a wide variety of ailments ? They are not far removed at all from these “Dravidian and voodoo west African” levels of insanity and godlessness.Hell, modern Hasidics won’t even use soap, and live in so much squalor and stench and common disease, due to such a ridiculous resistance to basic 1st and 2nd world physical hygeine ?And these are the voices insanely influencing first world governance ? It’s shameful on all sides, but especially upon them, for which their only lust for modernity lies in utilizing man’s technology to enforce insane, depraved, tyrannical and abusive revenge fantasies, much of it for atrocities their ancestries never even endured, given that most Ashkenazi have zero actual mizrahim ancestry. A truly 3rd world, Godless, failed race of schizo, criminally insane, inbred psychopaths, well beyond any chance at being redeemable.
>>533751473I dislike the "Jesus was a Jew" narrative because it is always employed by bad actors - either evangelical Judaisers or "lmao Jew on a stick" types. It also assumes that modern day Israel and Jews are the same as biblical ones, which is false and is only used to legitimize Israel.I don't "need" Christ to be White, I'm fine with him being Aramaic speaking, culturally Helenized Galilean.
>>533734256>Was Jesus Jewish?Did not exist. No independent historical evidence of him exists. Jewish? There were many christ cults. In general they followed the rising and dying savior archetype that was popular at the time using the judean mythology as a base. There were Greek, Roman, Persian, Egyptian and many other savior gods who were very similar. BUT there were some significant variations. The first written gospel (just watch the christcucks seeth) was written by Marcion. This also had the first known copies of the letters supposedly written by the character known as Paul. The big deal about Marcion's gospel is that hos jesus was NOT the son of the jewish god. Marcion's Jesus was the son of an all loving, previously unknown creator god. The cult tgat eventually became the catholics got ahold of Marcion's book and rewrote it in multiple forms (Mark, Matthew and Luke.) And the judaized it.... Matthew being the most hardcore judaizer. Most non canonical texts got destroyed and most churches that did not conform with the catholics were destroyed after the catholics gained state power through Constantine. There are interesting non canonical books that survived the (((catholics))) like the Nag Hamadi texts that were hidden in the desert. Jesus did not exist.The fictional character of the christ had many forms in the early cults. The Catholic-kikes eliminated them and made sure their jesus character was kosher. Current status... jew or not jew? Jew.
>>533734256No, he was the son of God. He just incarnated into the Jewish religion because they had the highest ideal of God at the time
>>533734256why is he wrapped in one of those baby blankets from the hospital?
>>533734256Yes but no, its complicated. Jesus had nothing to do with jews, but was true jew which was the whites. But Jesus commanded to people obey pharisees, the nonwhite jewish non-jews. Stop asking things like that, you jew. Repent and become the true jew.
>>533734256All the Lords horses and all the Lord's men could not save the Satanism that is Judaism from little old Nyggers & Friends :D
And I will bring about your ((((Ends)))).
These threads are hilarious. I am constantly amazed how arrogantly and willfully ignorant christians are about the history of their own religion. It's like listening to arguments from 5 year olds.
The Christians are right about Jesus he wasn't a Jew. But the Atheists are also right about Jesus because the reason he wasn't a Jew is because he was a nothing, he didn't exist.
The idea is, the existence was never proven though.Despite this, Americans gobble all jewish cock they can in hopes that someone might have a shed of Jesus in them and the cum would make that a part of them. Again never proven to ever exist but when was the last time you heard an American actually reading the bible and not just preach it..
>>533751661But what do you mean by "culturally hellenized" though? Despite being under the rule of the Romans all the Jews still did Jewish customs and traditions (which is essentially the Law) according the Old Testament scripture (hence the Pharisees and Sadducees being obsessed with the Law as if the Law saves when it doesn't). They were culturally not what they deemed to be "Gentile" even in the New Testament and even Jesus still kept the Law minus the carnal ordinances that were to be done away with via his sacrifice on the cross, his death burial and resurrection.
>>533751787>which was the whites
Until only your wreckage and ash remains. >533752168 >533752210 >533752216
>>533734256Yesn't.Jesuschrist was before even the creation of earth. He was before Abraham, David, and the creation of Jewish religion, because Jesuschrist is alpha and omega, the beggining and end, so we can't lock him down inside a way we human beings perceive the reality, because he was before anything.
>>533750815Jesus was indeed a Hebrew and there is nothing wrong with that. It goes back to what I said here >>533751473.Matthew 1:1 KJV“The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.”Matthew 1:7 KJV“So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.”There is a physical lineage from Abraham to Christ. Of course Christ has no carnal, physical father only the Father in Heaven who is also God like he is. However Mary was a Jew just like David and Abraham was, and this is supposed to be a spiritual prophecy showing how Jesus came to the Jews with salvation revealed through him and they rejected it, resulting in their replacement (replacement theology). In actuality it was always about a spiritual nation of Israel comprised of the saved, regardless of whether they are gentile or jew. God doesn't care about a physical nation and Israel in the Bible only existed to serve this spiritual picture. So while the nation of Israel in the Bible (not modern-day, they aren't Jews ethnically the 12 tribes have been dead for a long time) we're at one point indeed specially favored by God, a "chosen people" if you will, it was never because of their race, but because salvation was the same even in the Old Testament not of works but by faith alone in Christ alone. In the Old Testament they were looking forward to Christ, since the Old Testament even references a "Son of God" as a literal phrase let alone the coming Messiah, during the events of the New Testament, they're looking to Christ presently, and post the events of the Gospels we look back on Christ and what he has done for us Matthew 3:9 KJV“And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.”
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